I listened to this when it was first uploaded, and I just couldn't get myself to think this voice was better than ZP's, but now.... I think I like him better.
ZP sucks harder than a Virtual Boy. Marc can ACTUALLY sing. The overall performance too is a lot better. I saw them in 2009... it was.... ok. I'll go watch them again if they return to México, only because of Marc. He's amazing.
Tbh I dont thing Marc could pull any of the older songs off as well as ZP its just dosnt sound right. But The new stuff i have heard sounds great and suits Marcs Voice so well! miss ZP Tho :L
I think they are in tune definitly,zp seemed like detatched.Marc is awsome but hes no ZP Theart.Hes still got a ways to go but I think hes still awsome.ROCK ON DRAGONFORCE!!!!!
This vocalist is fucking horrible. He has no power behind it. He can't get high enough in the parts that demand it. The tone is all wrong. He sounds like a child just yelling into the mic.
Meh. I don't like his voice at all. I'll check out an album when it comes out just to see since videos on youtube aren't the best quality, but usually you can tell a lot from even a bad quality video. I'll give him a chance, but if it's anything like this, I'm done with DF. :\
@NazoZero you dont have any musical training do you? because if you did you would hear that he's more in tune with them than ZP was in 2009. as for the power in his voice, yeah hes not as strong as ZP. but listen to ZP sing revalations live in 2000, he sounds a good side worse then marc does here, and this is what? his 5th show with them? give him at least half a year and his voice will develop. dont be so quick to criticize unless you can do better your self mate
Are you kidding me? Don't criticize unless I can do better? Are you being serious? You do realize that CRITICS are just opinions based on person preference right? I don't HAVE to do anything to have an opinion on something. That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. You think movie critics are actors themselves? And no, he not more in tune with them, he's OFF tune with the songs ZP did. And his voice WON'T develope, they'll write songs FOR his voice you tard. Learn music.
@NazoZero listen here you little shit, iv been studying music since i was 9, i think i know a few things. YES his voice is in tune, during the ultra beat down tour they had to tune DOWN a step to ZP. this is played in standerd, marcs voice has better tonality then ZPs did near the end of his time with dragonforce, and your half right, i should have worded that better, you need to have KNOWLAGE on the subject before critisizing it, film critics study film for years before telling a director off.
I do not need to study shit to have an OPINION, you over-critical piece of trash. And before you go on about "KNOWLAGE" Learn how the fucking spell the word. It's Knowledge. Don't fucking say I can't have an opinion on something just because YOU THINK I can't. Fuck you, and fuck people with your ridiculous mindset. My opinion is mine, and mine alone. Don't like it? Tough. To me, he sounds like shit, and I even said in another post I'd give him a later chance. Stop being a cunt.
Are you sure that's their voice? Or the technology involved in capturing sound improved? You can improve your vocals, yes, but once they hit a certain point, they either die out, or stay. Ozzy sounds nearly the same as he did live from the 80's to now. Technology with sound systems and quality recording in studios have improved the way we listen to music. It is not nearly the artist as it is technology's advance. DF always had bad sound techs, now they have new ones.
@NazoZero your correct, sound tech does get better but i recall ozzys voice cracking in many performences, now fixed, james used to be what today would be known as scream-o, now has actual melody in his voice. marc isnt even 25 yet. i'd say his voice has plenty of time to improve before he hits that down slope, and he might not. look at the vocals for iron maiden, bruce took care of his voice and its still in amazing shape, if marc does the same his voice will get better and stay that way
i used to say shit about them , but they learned their lesson ... they must have thought "we need to practice more , because if we depend on guitar hero , we will end like guitar hero , so ..." , and here is the result :)
I love how when ZP left Dragonforce there was no hate. He just peacefully parted ways with the band and a new singer was found. It shows that they have tact.
lets admit: dragonforce, or at least this song, is as much about the guitar as vocals or even more. it always disappointed me that they didnt play it in standard tuning like on the album... if they can do it now with marc, then its a huge step up.
wow, I am in shock, he sounds so great! I think the ZP era will go down in history as the original sound, and Marc will will go down as the guy who took it to the next level... or something like that, anyway. YEAH DRAGONFORCE!!!!
@Djnuttty which begs the question why? everyone hated them because they couldnt play live now they can the haters have no excuse they hate just because they can and its stupid =/
@DAN7E91 well thats the unfortunate part of being a support band. no matter how good you are, the best part of the night for the fans is when you go away. on the plus though they get the benefit of playing to such a large audience.
@clem070605 The best part of the night was seeing DragonForce live. I loved, loved, loved every minute. They were great and I can't wait for the album. Good stuff and Marc was incredible.
We are used to seeing and hearing zp sing thats why we are like wtf!? But he was good for a 1st time performance! as much as i loved zp as the singer he is getting older and losing his voice! At least they have a fresh younger voice and he will get better after each performance! I liked zp better but oh well. Is it me or marc is acting kinda like zp on stage. Like how he moves and stuff. lol idk to me it does! but nice performance!!
Actually now i feel sorry for ZP, :( He had such a great voice, so why couldnt hE just take care off it? Marc Hudson is great, and this live performance is awsome. So much better than before. I look forward to new stuff from DF, but i got to admit, i miss ZP
yeah!!!! theyve gone back to standard tuning live AWSOME!! most bands stay at half step down which i dont like but above all the new singer is awsome!!
i fuckin loved this i was like 3 rows from the front drangonforce and maiden where fuckin awesome!!! but the areseholes trying to start mosh pits where cunts
I'm sorry, but Marc sounds WAY better than ZP, his voice has a more masculine depth, and it works well with the band. He can still hit a lot of the notes that ZP could. And with Marc, the band can actually play in standard tuning, so that's a plus too lol
@MegashadX Dude! I totally agree with you! But some losers down in the mosh were totally dissing Marc! I don't know why fans can't just admit that they sound way better with Marc!
@Djnuttty Well, ZP WAS the original voice of the band, I did enjoy him on the first 3 albums, but by the 4th and live album, you could tell he was abusing his voice, and it showed. They needed a new singer, and they chose the best one. I got to talk to Marc while he was still auditioning, he's a cool guy and definitely deserved the part.
Still, I'd like to know what ZP's up to so I could follow his projects...
@MrChillywilly1234 His voice lacked a lot of the power and strength he had in the first 3 albums. And you could tell by the live performances. Compare the 2005 live performance of Fury of the Storm with the 2009 one, his voice degraded in quality in big time. It's a total shame =/ He was an amazing frontman, but the quality of his voice was probably the reason he got the boot. He abused his voice by smoking and other stuff
I WAS THERE !!
XTREMEzZGAMINGZz 1 month ago
best guitar bass drum players on the planet
DFORCE BEST BAND EVER
DerTypDer18War 3 months ago
wow will they ever learn to harmonize ?
NyquilAtNoon 4 months ago
I listened to this when it was first uploaded, and I just couldn't get myself to think this voice was better than ZP's, but now.... I think I like him better.
foroke1 4 months ago
setlist?? please.... what were the songs that they played!?
timosha21 4 months ago
You're in for a treat when you see them live with Marc trust me, he's awesome!
suzzershred 5 months ago
ZP sucks harder than a Virtual Boy. Marc can ACTUALLY sing. The overall performance too is a lot better. I saw them in 2009... it was.... ok. I'll go watch them again if they return to México, only because of Marc. He's amazing.
TrapnestShinigami 5 months ago
Angra, shaman destroy those guys...just saiyng...
estevaocma 5 months ago
zp is back checkout////////// zptheartofficial......... youtube and facebook then spread the word
alonso6662 5 months ago
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TrapnestShinigami 5 months ago
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Daavidforce 5 months ago
They are better I guess.
64GIO 5 months ago
Marc is fucking awesome! Sooo much better than ZP in my view.
dragonforce28000 5 months ago
wow bad sound, but a amazing feeling
NNgmbh 6 months ago
i loved ZP but he was always too weak live. but this guy was absolutely phenomenal when i saw them this night
darkshredder95 6 months ago
@gekey4000 they cant. the drummer steals the show
ProgressiveTool 6 months ago
Marc is bad live, but Herman and Sam are always great!!!
marchman3000 6 months ago
I honistly cant wait to see how the new album will turn out. i like old dragonforce but am looking forward to new dragonforce
NashMcilroy 6 months ago
I went deaf at 3:10
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MrSloppy95 6 months ago 2
this is what I call shitty quality, but it's the best quality I'v seen so far, and it's still awesome. (in shitty quality)
GeneralBlackNorway 6 months ago
what the hell happened at 3:10
makelelegd96 6 months ago
This is for pussies
TheFunktipus1 6 months ago
I dont care how many hate comments I'l get! MARC SUCKS LIVE! ZP was both awesome on the albums and live!
TheWilliamZoo 6 months ago
Tbh I dont thing Marc could pull any of the older songs off as well as ZP its just dosnt sound right. But The new stuff i have heard sounds great and suits Marcs Voice so well! miss ZP Tho :L
UltraSpaceNinja 6 months ago
MARC IS TOOO SEXYYYYY O.o
KRYgolden 6 months ago
ZP was little good, like, he wasn't a bad singer. THIS ONE IS AWESOME
Metallaro66 6 months ago
well shit on me, did dragonforce actually get good live?
Sprayboy777 6 months ago
His voice sounds really good with Through The Fire and Flames
dragonheartx3ro 6 months ago
I think they are in tune definitly,zp seemed like detatched.Marc is awsome but hes no ZP Theart.Hes still got a ways to go but I think hes still awsome.ROCK ON DRAGONFORCE!!!!!
Christophellon 6 months ago
This vocalist is fucking horrible. He has no power behind it. He can't get high enough in the parts that demand it. The tone is all wrong. He sounds like a child just yelling into the mic.
NazoZero 6 months ago
@NazoZero hes good but he cant sing the stuff meant for zp
19925suisniZR 6 months ago
@19925suisniZR
Meh. I don't like his voice at all. I'll check out an album when it comes out just to see since videos on youtube aren't the best quality, but usually you can tell a lot from even a bad quality video. I'll give him a chance, but if it's anything like this, I'm done with DF. :\
NazoZero 6 months ago
@NazoZero you dont have any musical training do you? because if you did you would hear that he's more in tune with them than ZP was in 2009. as for the power in his voice, yeah hes not as strong as ZP. but listen to ZP sing revalations live in 2000, he sounds a good side worse then marc does here, and this is what? his 5th show with them? give him at least half a year and his voice will develop. dont be so quick to criticize unless you can do better your self mate
muldmike 6 months ago
@muldmike
Are you kidding me? Don't criticize unless I can do better? Are you being serious? You do realize that CRITICS are just opinions based on person preference right? I don't HAVE to do anything to have an opinion on something. That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. You think movie critics are actors themselves? And no, he not more in tune with them, he's OFF tune with the songs ZP did. And his voice WON'T develope, they'll write songs FOR his voice you tard. Learn music.
NazoZero 6 months ago
@NazoZero listen here you little shit, iv been studying music since i was 9, i think i know a few things. YES his voice is in tune, during the ultra beat down tour they had to tune DOWN a step to ZP. this is played in standerd, marcs voice has better tonality then ZPs did near the end of his time with dragonforce, and your half right, i should have worded that better, you need to have KNOWLAGE on the subject before critisizing it, film critics study film for years before telling a director off.
muldmike 6 months ago
@muldmike
I do not need to study shit to have an OPINION, you over-critical piece of trash. And before you go on about "KNOWLAGE" Learn how the fucking spell the word. It's Knowledge. Don't fucking say I can't have an opinion on something just because YOU THINK I can't. Fuck you, and fuck people with your ridiculous mindset. My opinion is mine, and mine alone. Don't like it? Tough. To me, he sounds like shit, and I even said in another post I'd give him a later chance. Stop being a cunt.
NazoZero 6 months ago
@NazoZero and explane to me why exactly his voice wont improve? ZPs voice did, james hetfields did, Ozzys voice did, why not marcs?
muldmike 6 months ago
@muldmike
Are you sure that's their voice? Or the technology involved in capturing sound improved? You can improve your vocals, yes, but once they hit a certain point, they either die out, or stay. Ozzy sounds nearly the same as he did live from the 80's to now. Technology with sound systems and quality recording in studios have improved the way we listen to music. It is not nearly the artist as it is technology's advance. DF always had bad sound techs, now they have new ones.
NazoZero 6 months ago
@NazoZero your correct, sound tech does get better but i recall ozzys voice cracking in many performences, now fixed, james used to be what today would be known as scream-o, now has actual melody in his voice. marc isnt even 25 yet. i'd say his voice has plenty of time to improve before he hits that down slope, and he might not. look at the vocals for iron maiden, bruce took care of his voice and its still in amazing shape, if marc does the same his voice will get better and stay that way
muldmike 6 months ago
i used to say shit about them , but they learned their lesson ... they must have thought "we need to practice more , because if we depend on guitar hero , we will end like guitar hero , so ..." , and here is the result :)
ilovethewar1945 6 months ago
Epic Chorus!!!!!
alanmetal123 6 months ago
I love how when ZP left Dragonforce there was no hate. He just peacefully parted ways with the band and a new singer was found. It shows that they have tact.
MetalUp95 6 months ago
dang theyre alot better live they used to be...not so good but now theyre pretty good and what happened to ZP???
laxkid61 6 months ago
lets admit: dragonforce, or at least this song, is as much about the guitar as vocals or even more. it always disappointed me that they didnt play it in standard tuning like on the album... if they can do it now with marc, then its a huge step up.
faizb110 6 months ago
wow, I am in shock, he sounds so great! I think the ZP era will go down in history as the original sound, and Marc will will go down as the guy who took it to the next level... or something like that, anyway. YEAH DRAGONFORCE!!!!
remotenightowl 6 months ago 2
i prefer the new singer. bigger range. sounds kinda like goran edman
clem070605 6 months ago
Not hating on Dragonforce, I love dragonforce!
Sam still needs to improve on his guitar solos. Good guitarist, but still needs little improvement on his guitar solos, that's it.
Rebohead 6 months ago
does anyone remember the massive cheer when the dragonforce logo got takin down? :D
DAN7E91 6 months ago 5
@DAN7E91 Yeah :P There was so much haters there!
Djnuttty 6 months ago 10
@Djnuttty I agree. Dragonforce put on a good show and I personally really enjoyed them. Well done Marc!
AmethystDew 5 months ago
@Djnuttty I agree. Dragonforce put on a good show and I personally really enjoyed them. Well done Marc!
AmethystDew 5 months ago
@Djnuttty which begs the question why? everyone hated them because they couldnt play live now they can the haters have no excuse they hate just because they can and its stupid =/
TheMightyOzaru 5 months ago
@DAN7E91 well thats the unfortunate part of being a support band. no matter how good you are, the best part of the night for the fans is when you go away. on the plus though they get the benefit of playing to such a large audience.
clem070605 6 months ago
@clem070605 The best part of the night was seeing DragonForce live. I loved, loved, loved every minute. They were great and I can't wait for the album. Good stuff and Marc was incredible.
AmethystDew 6 months ago
@AmethystDew no dude, it wasn't the best part by a long way. but yeah they did do themselves proud.
clem070605 6 months ago
@DAN7E91 yeah, it was bull shit. i was so fucking pumped to see them and they only played like 5 songs, if that
muldmike 6 months ago
ZP junior.
MajinVegeta997 6 months ago
he's wearing the same pants as zp too haha!
MajinVegeta997 6 months ago
We are used to seeing and hearing zp sing thats why we are like wtf!? But he was good for a 1st time performance! as much as i loved zp as the singer he is getting older and losing his voice! At least they have a fresh younger voice and he will get better after each performance! I liked zp better but oh well. Is it me or marc is acting kinda like zp on stage. Like how he moves and stuff. lol idk to me it does! but nice performance!!
MajinVegeta997 6 months ago
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Daavidforce 6 months ago
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Daavidforce 6 months ago
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Daavidforce 6 months ago
Underwater at 3:10?
Bluyoshi8z 6 months ago
Actually now i feel sorry for ZP, :( He had such a great voice, so why couldnt hE just take care off it? Marc Hudson is great, and this live performance is awsome. So much better than before. I look forward to new stuff from DF, but i got to admit, i miss ZP
BigGHpondus 6 months ago
wow even with this shity sounds u can tell they r sounding better!
metalalwayswins 6 months ago
SHIT DUDE THIS IS FUCKING AWESOMEEEEEEEE he sounds SO great!!! and the band too!!
Snepif 6 months ago
we were standing at the front and people kept booing them and we were like fuck up!!!!
tacticalboi 6 months ago
Their playing DOES sound better :)
Hyrekia 6 months ago
Incredible, was there last nite, new singer is great. Epic solo fest!
Moyahmoy 6 months ago
i rember this.. we all had a standing protest waiting for maiden LOL but to be far they put on an amasing show
kallum64 6 months ago
yeah!!!! theyve gone back to standard tuning live AWSOME!! most bands stay at half step down which i dont like but above all the new singer is awsome!!
cyberdod11 6 months ago
@gekey4000 Yea I know. Because they dropped tune their guitars on all their tours they've been on. Now they dont. :)
mengalite 6 months ago
Oh yeah. Dragonforce are back.
ShazVanHalen 6 months ago 35
@ShazVanHalen if you ask me, they never left ;-P
muldmike 6 months ago
i fuckin loved this i was like 3 rows from the front drangonforce and maiden where fuckin awesome!!! but the areseholes trying to start mosh pits where cunts
MRCARLOVER09 6 months ago
see i think that there pretty even singing wise but i prefer ZP because he was a better front man. when he was on stage the crowd was his
muldmike 7 months ago
I'm sorry, but Marc sounds WAY better than ZP, his voice has a more masculine depth, and it works well with the band. He can still hit a lot of the notes that ZP could. And with Marc, the band can actually play in standard tuning, so that's a plus too lol
MegashadX 7 months ago 19
@MegashadX Dude! I totally agree with you! But some losers down in the mosh were totally dissing Marc! I don't know why fans can't just admit that they sound way better with Marc!
Djnuttty 7 months ago 9
@Djnuttty Well, ZP WAS the original voice of the band, I did enjoy him on the first 3 albums, but by the 4th and live album, you could tell he was abusing his voice, and it showed. They needed a new singer, and they chose the best one. I got to talk to Marc while he was still auditioning, he's a cool guy and definitely deserved the part.
Still, I'd like to know what ZP's up to so I could follow his projects...
MegashadX 7 months ago
@MegashadX Yeah totally. I'm not saying ZP was a bad singer or anything but I just thiink the band as a whole was suffering because of him.
I'd also be interested in seeing some new projects from him, maybe a solo career of sorts. Fingers Crossed.
Djnuttty 7 months ago
@Djnuttty
The thing whith mark, is that his voice range, is not as wide as ZP`s, that is noticed sometimes, but, he is a great singer
ximing007 6 months ago
@Djnuttty if memory serves correctly, he joined the band Power Quest
Adardardar1 5 months ago
@MegashadX WHAT? i thought ultra beatdown and valley of the dammed were his best vocal performances :P
MrChillywilly1234 6 months ago
@MrChillywilly1234 His voice lacked a lot of the power and strength he had in the first 3 albums. And you could tell by the live performances. Compare the 2005 live performance of Fury of the Storm with the 2009 one, his voice degraded in quality in big time. It's a total shame =/ He was an amazing frontman, but the quality of his voice was probably the reason he got the boot. He abused his voice by smoking and other stuff
MegashadX 6 months ago
@MegashadX i think just one thing ZP is the best of the best in the world
guilnicobomb10 6 months ago
@MegashadX this guy sounds like a little kid when he sings, ZP had much more power and was definately more masculine lol
INVnubZ 6 months ago
@MegashadX Marc has a more masculine voice than ZP? WTF! Please explain yourself.
Lets hear Marc sing any song from the Valley of the Damned Album, if he can, maybe I might be impressed.
ChuukeseStink 6 months ago
@ChuukeseStink His voice is deeper, it's that simple. Also, he sang Starfire..
MegashadX 6 months ago