First off, R.I.P. to the poor people in this video.
Now, to all the religious people:
I'm agnostic, so you can base my point of view from that.
Please stop this religious argument rubbish. Everyone is entitled to their own views, everyone may preach and share, but no-one should be allowed to say that they are right. Sure I don't believe in the whole heaven/hell and god system, but I'm definitely not going to say that I am 100 percent right and that it may not exist. Please be kind to this video
@hexen93 I used to be a self confessed athiest in my youth, but later found a life and faith in God that is now unshakable. Whatever you believe, why not put your belief to the test? If U ask God to reveal himself to you as a person, He is faithful to do so. It is a step of faith that leads to absolute assurance of God, and we can know Him as well as our closest friend. I cannot imagine life without Him, because we were created by Him for relationship with Him. Give Him and yourself a chance
If some one wants to believe that: " The foundation of religion is fear & threats of suffering in hell", than thins person is looking for a reason not to believe. God is good. There is no "threats of hell" and if you are sitting in church on Sunday Morning and you are being threatened....walk out. God is not the reason someone does something bad or cancer hits, God is the one who will reach down and get you through it.
,and them you will experience the abundant life of joyce peace and love,otherwise be a slave of your own mind and understanding,all of us are in the same highway and all going to the cementary one day,the question is are you prepare to live eternity as you think it is or as GODsaid it is,our souls are inmortals depend where we choose to spend it if we choose life or dead
Stace this was a brilliant way to remember these guys. Well done to you. We don't always understand why these things happen, but at least we know we will meet again in His Kingdom, and these guys would probably do the same thing again if they were still here. Well done to you for such a good tribute to those now with the Lord x
I didnt know anyone from this tradegy, but I felt like I lost my brothers and sisters... i cried tears for them but still know that above all else, God is in control, he is soverigen ruler... it may or may not have been his will but either way he is still King! and we can not lose our faith when things around us are shaken!
I know alotta people are arguing over this hole waste of life and will of god thing
but im related 2 1 of the desesed and go to elim and was close friend to many others and what i have seem come out of this is amazing sure they have died there is no denying that people will question the will of god. but great things are starting to happen ,people are coming 2 the lord because of this tragedy. and as a christan i can say strongly that "God has a plan". may they rest in peace
If this event was NOT God's will, whose was it? Or just a "fluke" or "accident"?
We are so prone to praise God in the good times, but to push him out of the tragedies and low points of life. Either he's God or he isn't...can't have it both ways.
How rude. This has been an extraordinary disaster and many people are still mourning and grieving at this time. Please keep your thoughts to yourself, people are still sensitive. Have some respect.
the reason for us on this earth is not to beleive in a god or be ristricted by a religion it is to make the most out of ur time on earth and to do what u feel is right life is a test of urself not of your faith... if god wanted us to beleive in him he would make it very obvious by being down here every day stopping things like this tradgedy. but he doesnt want that he wants u to show how u really feel and show your inner self rather than being afraid of conviction
You completely miss the point of Jesus. It says in John 3:17 that 'God did not send his son into this world to condemn it but to save it.' Im not bible basing or trying to convince anyone into believing this but i'm just sharing with you why I believe what i do. Maybe your ideal "God" would be like a superhero, like he'd fly in and save these kids in the nick of time. But for what purpose? Everyone dies in the end. Its not something we need to be afraid of.
I totaly agree though that it is a tragedy and im not trying to brush tese peoples lives aside or anything. I wis it had never happened and that they were able to go home safe and be with their families.
The world tells me that i have to conform to win. I need a bigger bust, smoother hair, straight teeth, a clean house, dazling smile, have a life that doesn't show my insecurities. The world convicts me, condemns me to a life with which i will never be able to for full.
Would it ease your mind to know that theres a guy who sees all and yet still loves. Every wrong in the world, it doesn't matter how much pain or suffering it can cause you or me but 'He' aka Jesus is the one who feels it more than any other. Because of Jesus i CAN show my inner self and not be afraid of conviction. I can share every tear and every single thing that im ashamed of and know that im not going be be judged for it.You say im afraid of conviction. I am not!!!!
To motox444, Thats nice to know that you make the most of your life, but we all think differently at this area, my thought about this is that God loves us and he gave us a choice to believe in what we want to believe he's given us a free will.
Well we are only human so only God can answer that question, it's now up to you to figure out who this God who loves you so much really is.
@motox444 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT,YOU KNOW THAT WE LIVE FOR CHRIST,and to live for him is a victory to die on him is a reward,because we live in this world but we do not belong here,and we know that our life is short everybody has to die one day,the question is are prepare to meet the creator?GOD IS NOT A A GOD,of do and don't,he came to give us abundant life,religion slave people,jesus came to save us abd give us freedom
the only part of that that was true was the part about "religion slave people" yes religion does enslave people. and it is an utter waste of life to spend it praying to a non existant god and living by ridiculous rules such as "gays are bad" "no sex before marriage" if you want to think that its fine but dont adopt these rules just because ur religion says so. think for yourself and dont be a blind sheep. religion is not about god its about controlling people.
why did people put negative feed bak on my comment i didnt mean they wasted their lives i meant they were doing good things and them losing their lives is a waste of good people
im really confused.. why someone would think thats a bad comment???
What a waste of time for them to believe in god when they were all killed. The reality is from a religious perspective is that he murdered them but lines such as "it was gods will" get thrown around just to soften the harsh reality of what he really did to them.
it was not God's will... but yea i just have to have faith in God.. =) i understand for people who r not christians cus u must b so confused at y we du even believe in a God especailly sinc this has happened ...
but i just cant understand how u cant believe that ther is a God wen thers so many things tht prove it....
Nature, The way or bodies work, miricales, the bible, chruch, the sea, the animals and so on... Hope this Helps you...
Evolution is significantly more believable than god is though. Religion in general is evil as well, for one thing it is usually what starts war's. Reigion will eventually be the downfall of humanity.
"Evolution is significantly more believable than god is though"....that is absolutly right...because YOU dont stop to think and study the bible and see where it matches up with geography and science...thats your loss man ill pray for you!
@4familiamtz religion does cause wars and separation this comes from men and hisself love and indulgens,isfrom the heart of man,but JESUS,CAME to give us access to the father through his own sacrified so you can be accepted in the beloved,in the war is our own decires,we care less day by day,as long we are happy who cares about the rest,you don't care to steps on others in order to get where you want to go,thats selfinesh,to take what is not ours to take,control is the down fall
it is pointless arguing with an aethiest howeva u r correct in that religion wil b the downfall of humanity becos all religions hv been invented by human kind 4 their own evil, greedy, self gratifying sinful nature. it is neva God's will 4 His children 2 suffer bt we live in a fallen world and Christians r nt immune to tragedies. one day all humanity will stand b4 our GOD nd then u cn tel Him y u dn't believe til then I choose to believe and trust in Christ the Son of the living God
We all will almost certaintly go to the same place we were before birth when we die. How do I know that? The best indicator of what lies ahead is what lay in the past (pre birth). The foundation of religion is fear & threats of suffering in hell, is that something YOU really want to be a part of? If religion didn't reek of scare mongering & black mail do you really think it would have the following it does?
@Steve181 who told you this lie,religion slave people but jesus don't treat you ,he came to die for you and mehe came to save the world not to condemne,GOD IS NOT LIKE US,,one thing is true he came to give this gift his life for yours,he die and pay the debt you and i have with the father,is after you he wont force you,all he does is show his love to you,jesus love you
may the lord be with them as well as us.thats were i use to live in NZ at mt ruapehu next to the river they died in . it is very sad i now live in aussie
I just heard about this as I live in Europe, my brothers and sisters are now in the hands of the Lord, "For me, to Live Is Christ, and to Die Is Gain" (Philippians 1:21)
to all you that knew these people so sorry for your loss but they are hand and hand with god now we shall all see them all at another stage in heaven RIP WE WILL REMEMBER YOU xx
love you always, we worked together, and i will pick up the torch of your life and continue your smile and great energy to make this world a better place in following Jesus Christ our Saviour,
thank you for showing what we can all strive to become,
this is unbearably the wose thing that has happen to such caring,loving and decent people in the area,i work round the area of elim college and drive past everyday and to see the flowers and people all gathered around the area really hits me deep down.Even tho i didnt know these kids and teacher but if i could turn the clock back i would have love to know such people existed on this earth.and why somthing like this had to happen to these people is anyones guess,its now there time to help GOD.
I MISS YOU ALL :(
karleegray 1 year ago
First off, R.I.P. to the poor people in this video.
Now, to all the religious people:
I'm agnostic, so you can base my point of view from that.
Please stop this religious argument rubbish. Everyone is entitled to their own views, everyone may preach and share, but no-one should be allowed to say that they are right. Sure I don't believe in the whole heaven/hell and god system, but I'm definitely not going to say that I am 100 percent right and that it may not exist. Please be kind to this video
hexen93 1 year ago
@hexen93 I used to be a self confessed athiest in my youth, but later found a life and faith in God that is now unshakable. Whatever you believe, why not put your belief to the test? If U ask God to reveal himself to you as a person, He is faithful to do so. It is a step of faith that leads to absolute assurance of God, and we can know Him as well as our closest friend. I cannot imagine life without Him, because we were created by Him for relationship with Him. Give Him and yourself a chance
groovintheblues 10 months ago
@hexen93 Wow, loser.
germanicelt 4 months ago
I Miss My Seven In Heaven So Much ♥
kryptonyt2 1 year ago
If some one wants to believe that: " The foundation of religion is fear & threats of suffering in hell", than thins person is looking for a reason not to believe. God is good. There is no "threats of hell" and if you are sitting in church on Sunday Morning and you are being threatened....walk out. God is not the reason someone does something bad or cancer hits, God is the one who will reach down and get you through it.
sharonlynnmc1 1 year ago
,and them you will experience the abundant life of joyce peace and love,otherwise be a slave of your own mind and understanding,all of us are in the same highway and all going to the cementary one day,the question is are you prepare to live eternity as you think it is or as GODsaid it is,our souls are inmortals depend where we choose to spend it if we choose life or dead
bagejoce 1 year ago
I went to the school and it sucked
mikenice8008 2 years ago
RIP Tony RIP
may god be with you always and forever
Amen
Richardholtzhausen 2 years ago
A great friend of mine told me this: God never promised to shelter us from bad things happening, but he does promise to be with us through them.
godblessu123 3 years ago
Stace this was a brilliant way to remember these guys. Well done to you. We don't always understand why these things happen, but at least we know we will meet again in His Kingdom, and these guys would probably do the same thing again if they were still here. Well done to you for such a good tribute to those now with the Lord x
Thomas3650000000 3 years ago
I didnt know anyone from this tradegy, but I felt like I lost my brothers and sisters... i cried tears for them but still know that above all else, God is in control, he is soverigen ruler... it may or may not have been his will but either way he is still King! and we can not lose our faith when things around us are shaken!
niksta83 3 years ago
it's so sad.. :(
god rest their souls.
blackcoffeeandmetal 3 years ago
Bad things happen to good people. Its the way of life. But all we can do is trust and hope in our father in heaven.
IRICIHY 3 years ago
i go to elim and i just didnt understand why
fartscool 3 years ago
I know alotta people are arguing over this hole waste of life and will of god thing
but im related 2 1 of the desesed and go to elim and was close friend to many others and what i have seem come out of this is amazing sure they have died there is no denying that people will question the will of god. but great things are starting to happen ,people are coming 2 the lord because of this tragedy. and as a christan i can say strongly that "God has a plan". may they rest in peace
DarthLink42 3 years ago
But people can't wait to blame God in such disasters. Sometimes, things just happen.
bruinsgirl79 3 years ago
If this event was NOT God's will, whose was it? Or just a "fluke" or "accident"?
We are so prone to praise God in the good times, but to push him out of the tragedies and low points of life. Either he's God or he isn't...can't have it both ways.
tigerlilly66 3 years ago
dead.
geemo77 3 years ago
Gods sovereign in all of this.
I miss them immensely.
3 months soon and its getting harder by the day.
xJUMPINPUDDLESx 3 years ago
How rude. This has been an extraordinary disaster and many people are still mourning and grieving at this time. Please keep your thoughts to yourself, people are still sensitive. Have some respect.
samwallace11 3 years ago
I live near Elim , this was such a horrible thing to happen , may they all rest in peace.
As for disrespectful comments, keep them to yourself .
kellyandcaitlyn 3 years ago
dat was sooooooo sweet
idontcare1894 3 years ago
Heh. I Go To Elim.
KevinForGoat 3 years ago
R.I.P dearly missed but neva forgottn
maorimitechick 3 years ago
the reason for us on this earth is not to beleive in a god or be ristricted by a religion it is to make the most out of ur time on earth and to do what u feel is right life is a test of urself not of your faith... if god wanted us to beleive in him he would make it very obvious by being down here every day stopping things like this tradgedy. but he doesnt want that he wants u to show how u really feel and show your inner self rather than being afraid of conviction
motox444 3 years ago
You completely miss the point of Jesus. It says in John 3:17 that 'God did not send his son into this world to condemn it but to save it.' Im not bible basing or trying to convince anyone into believing this but i'm just sharing with you why I believe what i do. Maybe your ideal "God" would be like a superhero, like he'd fly in and save these kids in the nick of time. But for what purpose? Everyone dies in the end. Its not something we need to be afraid of.
gburger555 3 years ago 2
I totaly agree though that it is a tragedy and im not trying to brush tese peoples lives aside or anything. I wis it had never happened and that they were able to go home safe and be with their families.
The world tells me that i have to conform to win. I need a bigger bust, smoother hair, straight teeth, a clean house, dazling smile, have a life that doesn't show my insecurities. The world convicts me, condemns me to a life with which i will never be able to for full.
gburger555 3 years ago
Would it ease your mind to know that theres a guy who sees all and yet still loves. Every wrong in the world, it doesn't matter how much pain or suffering it can cause you or me but 'He' aka Jesus is the one who feels it more than any other. Because of Jesus i CAN show my inner self and not be afraid of conviction. I can share every tear and every single thing that im ashamed of and know that im not going be be judged for it.You say im afraid of conviction. I am not!!!!
Jesus is KING OF KINGS!!
gburger555 3 years ago
To motox444, Thats nice to know that you make the most of your life, but we all think differently at this area, my thought about this is that God loves us and he gave us a choice to believe in what we want to believe he's given us a free will.
Well we are only human so only God can answer that question, it's now up to you to figure out who this God who loves you so much really is.
Stacey4God 3 years ago
@motox444 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT,YOU KNOW THAT WE LIVE FOR CHRIST,and to live for him is a victory to die on him is a reward,because we live in this world but we do not belong here,and we know that our life is short everybody has to die one day,the question is are prepare to meet the creator?GOD IS NOT A A GOD,of do and don't,he came to give us abundant life,religion slave people,jesus came to save us abd give us freedom
bagejoce 1 year ago
@bagejoce
the only part of that that was true was the part about "religion slave people" yes religion does enslave people. and it is an utter waste of life to spend it praying to a non existant god and living by ridiculous rules such as "gays are bad" "no sex before marriage" if you want to think that its fine but dont adopt these rules just because ur religion says so. think for yourself and dont be a blind sheep. religion is not about god its about controlling people.
boarderx113 1 year ago
why did people put negative feed bak on my comment i didnt mean they wasted their lives i meant they were doing good things and them losing their lives is a waste of good people
im really confused.. why someone would think thats a bad comment???
motox444 3 years ago
What a waste of time for them to believe in god when they were all killed. The reality is from a religious perspective is that he murdered them but lines such as "it was gods will" get thrown around just to soften the harsh reality of what he really did to them.
Steve181 3 years ago
it was not God's will... but yea i just have to have faith in God.. =) i understand for people who r not christians cus u must b so confused at y we du even believe in a God especailly sinc this has happened ...
but i just cant understand how u cant believe that ther is a God wen thers so many things tht prove it....
Nature, The way or bodies work, miricales, the bible, chruch, the sea, the animals and so on... Hope this Helps you...
Stacey4God 3 years ago
Evolution is significantly more believable than god is though. Religion in general is evil as well, for one thing it is usually what starts war's. Reigion will eventually be the downfall of humanity.
Steve181 3 years ago
But Christianity isn't religon... its a relationship with God... thts got nothing to do with war ... has it...
Stacey4God 3 years ago
"Evolution is significantly more believable than god is though"....that is absolutly right...because YOU dont stop to think and study the bible and see where it matches up with geography and science...thats your loss man ill pray for you!
CoxsackieFireman5102 2 years ago
If you want to waste your time believing in the adult tooth fairy then that's your call mate, it's not my time that's being wasted.
Steve181 2 years ago
ive heard that before, from so many people, where do you get this from? how does religion cause wars?
how will it be the downfall of humanity? please explain, mostly the war part could you?
4familiamtz 2 years ago
@4familiamtz religion does cause wars and separation this comes from men and hisself love and indulgens,isfrom the heart of man,but JESUS,CAME to give us access to the father through his own sacrified so you can be accepted in the beloved,in the war is our own decires,we care less day by day,as long we are happy who cares about the rest,you don't care to steps on others in order to get where you want to go,thats selfinesh,to take what is not ours to take,control is the down fall
bagejoce 1 year ago
it is pointless arguing with an aethiest howeva u r correct in that religion wil b the downfall of humanity becos all religions hv been invented by human kind 4 their own evil, greedy, self gratifying sinful nature. it is neva God's will 4 His children 2 suffer bt we live in a fallen world and Christians r nt immune to tragedies. one day all humanity will stand b4 our GOD nd then u cn tel Him y u dn't believe til then I choose to believe and trust in Christ the Son of the living God
missdrkt 3 years ago
We all will almost certaintly go to the same place we were before birth when we die. How do I know that? The best indicator of what lies ahead is what lay in the past (pre birth). The foundation of religion is fear & threats of suffering in hell, is that something YOU really want to be a part of? If religion didn't reek of scare mongering & black mail do you really think it would have the following it does?
Steve181 3 years ago
If thats what you believe in so be it... but what i believe in.. is known as the truth... but i have a very strong question for every 1 readin this...
Why r u on this earth? for what reason have you been put on this earth for?
(Serious Question)
Stacey4God 3 years ago
@Steve181 who told you this lie,religion slave people but jesus don't treat you ,he came to die for you and mehe came to save the world not to condemne,GOD IS NOT LIKE US,,one thing is true he came to give this gift his life for yours,he die and pay the debt you and i have with the father,is after you he wont force you,all he does is show his love to you,jesus love you
bagejoce 1 year ago
what do you live for then, steve181.
holdfastgrace 3 years ago
wat a terrible waste of life... RIP
motox444 3 years ago
Well i know they did help many lives.. and care for those in need ... i think they all lived the lyf they had 2 the fullest!!
Stacey4God 3 years ago
RIP to all that were lost but never forgotten
funone01010 3 years ago
RIP :(
Loperis 3 years ago
may the lord be with them as well as us.thats were i use to live in NZ at mt ruapehu next to the river they died in . it is very sad i now live in aussie
montellrox24 3 years ago
This is a real sad tradegy in the community let alone the family. May God stay with the families of these victims while they greive..
feelinghater 3 years ago
I just heard about this as I live in Europe, my brothers and sisters are now in the hands of the Lord, "For me, to Live Is Christ, and to Die Is Gain" (Philippians 1:21)
TURNTOCHRIST 3 years ago
to all you that knew these people so sorry for your loss but they are hand and hand with god now we shall all see them all at another stage in heaven RIP WE WILL REMEMBER YOU xx
kellyjoe7 3 years ago
To the students and teacher,
we will miss you all, may god bless you
really goodbye for now. will see u in heaven
to Natasha,
love you always, we worked together, and i will pick up the torch of your life and continue your smile and great energy to make this world a better place in following Jesus Christ our Saviour,
thank you for showing what we can all strive to become,
Deeply deeply miss you.
Grieve, Hope, Live
mrmeanie25 3 years ago
wow what a tragedy! may God help you get through this hard time! God Bless
jessgravies 3 years ago
:(...
i cant believe what happened...
I heard the news from the gold coast about what happened at my old school
so shocking...
god bless
xoxoAuroraxoxo 3 years ago
this is unbearably the wose thing that has happen to such caring,loving and decent people in the area,i work round the area of elim college and drive past everyday and to see the flowers and people all gathered around the area really hits me deep down.Even tho i didnt know these kids and teacher but if i could turn the clock back i would have love to know such people existed on this earth.and why somthing like this had to happen to these people is anyones guess,its now there time to help GOD.
Trunk8 3 years ago
i beleive that all of those people parished are now in the hands of God. Amen!!!!!!!!!
ichevtchenko 3 years ago
So sorry for your loss....
lilcentric 3 years ago
So sorry for your loss....
lilcentric 3 years ago
R.I.P guys, from Macleans College
MissIraq93 3 years ago
So humbling..Rest In Peace guys..See you wen we get dea xox
Beenae1luv 3 years ago
M McCLEAN U WHERE A GR8 MAN ,TEACHE MAY ALL OF U RIP GOD BLESS
JUST WANNA CRY EVERYTIME I HERE YOUR NAME
THANX VERY MUCH 2 DA PPL HOW MADE THIS VID CLIP(TAKE CARE GOD BLESS)
NASTASSA08 3 years ago
my cousin has perished
by this calamity
I have seen him 1 time because I live in the Netherlands
I wil miss him
R.I.P my friend
derbisenda4253 3 years ago
MR McCLEAN YOU ROX THANX 2 DA PPL HOW MADE THIS VID GOD BLESS
NASTASSA08 3 years ago
happen so fast.r.i.p from this marcellin boy
lemanusimoa 3 years ago
thank you for making this video
Godbless xoxo
oliver827 3 years ago
Excellent video Stacey, thanks for making it.
Jono from Howick Baptist.
holymoly1234 3 years ago
rest in peace guys!
may God grace all those involved with his unparalelled strength, and grace to keep everyone strong and together.
Great video.
Elim is open this whole week coming until 10pm if you would like to pay respects.
In God we trust!
P4RYD 3 years ago
r.i.p
XOclaudiaOX 3 years ago