I'm sure the real Hawaiians of 200 years ago knew how to not over fish. If they didn't they wouldn't have made it. Now you have stupid fake 1% island mokes claiming its their land and they can do whatever they want.
They're as dumb as any backwoods deer poaching redneck on the mainland.
the net law was created to to protect us hawaiians from the white mans way of doing things .the updated laws were created by many top hawattan fishermen in this state along with marine biologist so we could do as hawaiins always have and thats to make sure that theres fish for our future and our kids future and their kids future.and yes what i saw in he video is legal even with out a license for subsitance .plus the fisherman in the wasnt catching oama .
funny eh you take two fish to feed your family and some guy come up to you to call you a haole yell at you for stealing, sing at you about protecting and respecting the land, then you see that same guy the next week taking every fish for 5 miles and killing rubbish fish for "practice"....
brah its not illegal aslong as he has license he can do watever! the only reason get the net law cuz the white man like tax us from taking our own fish our ancestor left for us
Of course this is illegal back then hawaiians had a special time to catch certin fish.
So the populatuin can grow back. Now days there is no suck rule so over fishing kills populations. netts are now allowed to be used every other year in hawaii.
1. You asked if this is illegal? Well judging by the eyes of the net, I doubt he's going for Oama. My bet would be he surrounded a group of Weke (Veke).
Please don't jump to the conclusion that he's doing something illegal just because he's netting fish.
2. If you think that a legal action is wrong, you should do something to change the legislation...but don't blame this guy, he's just following Hawaiian traditions.
understand frustrations on all sides. It seems in this video the school was very close to shore and a thrownet would of yielded more than enough fish as weke seems to lay on the bottom or just hover in place. And for babuze you are one sick puppy! yup looked at your channel you shouldn't be allowed to comment on this, and no it's not just the hawaiians doing all the over fishing it's the immigrants also: micro's,filipino's, as well as other asian's doing it as well.
being more selective than leaving the net to stand in the water, even though other fish maybe caught during the process. but again it's not just the netters but every fishermans responsibility. The people who pole and dive say the netters are to blame, but in reality do we need to catch more than one ulua in a night by using a pole or do we need to catch more than one uhu or kumu, no matter how selective diving or poling can be,the answers is no! I am a diver a thrownetter and a poler so I
Actually surrounding fish isn't illegal,but the size of the fish caught,the time when a certain fish is caught,the size of the eye used to catch the fish,and the amount of time a net is set or left in the water. but the issue at hand isn't whether the method of fishing is illegal, but whether the amount of fish caught using this method. It's clearly not jus for one household, because the school has got to be pretty big for one to surround in the first place. This type of netting is actually
What this guy is doing is wrong. Netting should be illegalized period. All the oama, moi, and other fish are getting depleted. Not to mention the bugs that are gone. Denying the impact of these types of immoral fishing activities is ignorance and stupidity. It is our responsibility to leave fish for the keiki in the future. I never pound like that.
eh guys, no forget that old style traditional hawn fishin practices neva had mono nets, snorkel equiptment and such... u like teach da keiki old style methods, go all da way... no lay net with modern stuff and call it traditional old style fishin practices...
ignorant people like you BaBUZE just run your mouths when they see this video. we only take what we will eat and pau. Pointing fingers is the best thing you can do. You dont even have a clue about the man in that video but yet out goes the finger and all you hear is shit. And i aint blaming haoles for raping the ocean. As far as i know get choke fish allover. Enjoy your hamburgers cause we be eating fish for a long time.....!
kamakaala,..."land bird"??? you iz one "BaBUZE". Hawaiians blames the Haoles for everything when it's your own people(hawaiian) that do shit like this. I would'nt be surprise that this is the same guy who nets the halalu schools from Chinaman's Hat to laie!!! As far as I know, hawaiians never had manofilament for nets, but today, they "Go 4 Broke" when they lay nets. 100,200,300 feet or more. talk about raping the ocean.
Don't worry about over fishing people, cause one day soon we wont be able to even eat our fish because of ciguatera. now worry about that. And when that happens, the Hawaiian people just lost their LIFELINE.
And for BaBuze, he is already showing his grandkids how much fish there still is. He is just teaching them the things that all you land birds wish you could do.
If you were so disturbed about the video you should of went up and talked to him. You would have found out that he is only catching fish for a luau. This man will give his entire catch awy before he reaches home. Stopping at all the neighbors houses giving to all the families.
I live Hauula too, dis exact spot use to always have one small pile oama when the run was on, not as big as Punaluu, or Kaaawa but always had. Now get the same as them....ZERO for the last couple, three years. Sheesh brada fada no mo hawaiian style!
He is using the skills he learned in the past when fish were more plentiful? Bra it's 2008! Try ask him how much he catch now. Yeah you catch what you going eat and use for bait but no gotta get nuts at hawaiian down there!He just saying "some" guys that lay net are greedy! But whatever
kauiboy89, sounds like sour grapes. What you should do is try to broaden and improve your skills as an all around fisherman as this man does. He is equaly skilled throwing net as laying net or pole fishing etc. He is using the skills he learned in the past when fish were more plentifull and through experience is able to identify an opurtunity and then choose the best tchnique. More important is the fact that he is always eager to share and teach these skills.
i go whipping at my usual spots and i wil always leave the lay nets alone even though i think its bs and the cheat way to catch fish, but if my lure happens to get tanlged in the net then i bust out my knife and start cutting, i can respect the old ways but this is a wole different time where fish numbers are dropping and guys that still lay net are ruining it for everyone and the future genertions, i have more respect to the man who can get in the water with a throw net
Supreme Court states: [t]he State is obligated to protect the reasonable exercise of customarily and traditionally exercised rights of Hawaiians (your ohana if they where Hwn. citizens). The same court decision states: "HRS s 5-7.5(b), we are authorized to "give consideration to the 'Aloha Spirit'." The Aloha Spirit "was the working philosophy of native Hawaiians(;) ... 'Aloha' is the essence of relationships in which each person is important to every other person for collective existence."
its our rights but as hawaiian people we have to realize fish populations arent going to get better with lay netters raping our oceans of the fish our keiki could be catching in the future, i dont care who i see breaking the fishing regulations, if i see u ill come up to u and tell u str8, what the unko in the video is doing isnt illegal but it still isnt pono
HEy OPUNUI 808, if you did MEET UP WIT HIM he would happily give you a fish. Lets try focus on the real problems here not each other. dont bite the cheese!
Hey OPUNUI808, If you did meet up wit him he would happily give you some fish! Brah lets focus on the real problems are and not each other.Don't bite the cheese!
The person in this video, is one of the most responsible fisherman I know,a true Hawaiian -helping young people to keep traditions alive--full of Aloha always caring for his ohana, community (including the resources)and especially those in need. More importantly, he is exercising his native gathering rights pursuant to the law- that predate the current exploitive commercial practices that ARE depleteing our ocean resources today. Where is the Aloha here-- brah?
You need to catch the guys leaving their nets in the water for days and too long thats the guys you need to be catching NOT THE FIRST GUY YOU SEE WITH A BOAT AND A NET and start pointing fingers. Making false accusations and slandering someone you dont even know.
i agree in a way, the guys that leave their nets there are fuckn pricks and just waste fish, but also, this is not the old days where fish were plentifull, i think laying net isnt gonna make our fish numbers any better, i understand your probly trying to feed your keiki and ohana but this type of fishing is killin it for the rest of us, real fisherman go out there with a pole and take what they can get, i can respect throw netters more than lay netters
okk first of all MY DAD IS THE GUY IN THIS VIDEO.. and obviously you guys dont no anything about fishing and this is not even an oama net, oama can easily swim through this net. This net is 2-1/2" and we were surrounding weke. and talking about taking the fun out of fishing, OK hawaiians have been using nets for hundreds of years and you wonder why theres still fish its called MANAGING OUR WATERS... (read below I not pau yet)
Like manevs1 said!! I dont see anything wrong either. Theres no evidence here showing anything was done wrong. Did you see the size of the eyes on the net..cause it doesnt look like any oama's would get stuck in dat net. Whoever took da footage u shouldve stuck around to see what was really going on and what he actually caught, until then...dont be accusing unless you got da facts straight.
Das why hard. At least people can see why no mo da Oama schools... But you tink DLNR going stop this shit from happening? HELL NO!!! Well at least this kid in the video can show it to his kids why no moa da Oama anymore.
Don't see anything wrong here, looks to me that he and his family were only "pa'i pa'i" fishing. To consider him selfish without seeing if he left it for more than the regulated time is pre-mature. You guys make like there is no such thing as a responsible fisherman. Given the fact that he was right off the road (in plain view), I don't think he left it in for a long period. Some people gotta support their family, if you wanna hate on someone make sure they're actually breaking the law.
I'm sure the real Hawaiians of 200 years ago knew how to not over fish. If they didn't they wouldn't have made it. Now you have stupid fake 1% island mokes claiming its their land and they can do whatever they want.
They're as dumb as any backwoods deer poaching redneck on the mainland.
SkipHawaii 6 months ago
the net law was created to to protect us hawaiians from the white mans way of doing things .the updated laws were created by many top hawattan fishermen in this state along with marine biologist so we could do as hawaiins always have and thats to make sure that theres fish for our future and our kids future and their kids future.and yes what i saw in he video is legal even with out a license for subsitance .plus the fisherman in the wasnt catching oama .
captale1 7 months ago
fucked awp
trojanshawaii 9 months ago
funny eh you take two fish to feed your family and some guy come up to you to call you a haole yell at you for stealing, sing at you about protecting and respecting the land, then you see that same guy the next week taking every fish for 5 miles and killing rubbish fish for "practice"....
kbeasley808 1 year ago
brah its not illegal aslong as he has license he can do watever! the only reason get the net law cuz the white man like tax us from taking our own fish our ancestor left for us
808mobboss 1 year ago
Of course this is illegal back then hawaiians had a special time to catch certin fish.
So the populatuin can grow back. Now days there is no suck rule so over fishing kills populations. netts are now allowed to be used every other year in hawaii.
lanimu808 1 year ago
1. You asked if this is illegal? Well judging by the eyes of the net, I doubt he's going for Oama. My bet would be he surrounded a group of Weke (Veke).
Please don't jump to the conclusion that he's doing something illegal just because he's netting fish.
2. If you think that a legal action is wrong, you should do something to change the legislation...but don't blame this guy, he's just following Hawaiian traditions.
BalazarsBrain 2 years ago
Whoa. You smaht ah?
Retard #6
kaloaloa 2 years ago
now it is...
pinnkbet 2 years ago
u1babuze is a fucking retard we don't blame haoles for over fishing
dredelapinia 2 years ago
isnt hawaii's nickname "respect"?
kan3ohe8o8 2 years ago
ho, hows dees fakas, bu.
Cblack08 2 years ago
caught in the act how shame i hope you step on vana greeeedy!
stupidfuc 3 years ago
Shame....nuff said!
Sgt74 3 years ago
understand frustrations on all sides. It seems in this video the school was very close to shore and a thrownet would of yielded more than enough fish as weke seems to lay on the bottom or just hover in place. And for babuze you are one sick puppy! yup looked at your channel you shouldn't be allowed to comment on this, and no it's not just the hawaiians doing all the over fishing it's the immigrants also: micro's,filipino's, as well as other asian's doing it as well.
jsimeona71 3 years ago
being more selective than leaving the net to stand in the water, even though other fish maybe caught during the process. but again it's not just the netters but every fishermans responsibility. The people who pole and dive say the netters are to blame, but in reality do we need to catch more than one ulua in a night by using a pole or do we need to catch more than one uhu or kumu, no matter how selective diving or poling can be,the answers is no! I am a diver a thrownetter and a poler so I
jsimeona71 3 years ago
Actually surrounding fish isn't illegal,but the size of the fish caught,the time when a certain fish is caught,the size of the eye used to catch the fish,and the amount of time a net is set or left in the water. but the issue at hand isn't whether the method of fishing is illegal, but whether the amount of fish caught using this method. It's clearly not jus for one household, because the school has got to be pretty big for one to surround in the first place. This type of netting is actually
jsimeona71 3 years ago
Same things happens with all the halalu schools here in oahu. Before the fish populations could handle lay netting, now they really cant.
PauletaTHEgod 3 years ago
2 1/2 inch eye is illegal size it has to be 2 3/4 size...so if you get caught you will lose your net plus a $500 fine....
ShowtimeHawaii 3 years ago
Nets suck be a real fisherman you stupid KOOOOKS. take all the small fish is stupid they need to mate and make more ... thanks for raping our ocean
Mauistyl 3 years ago
Retard #5.
kaloaloa 2 years ago
What this guy is doing is wrong. Netting should be illegalized period. All the oama, moi, and other fish are getting depleted. Not to mention the bugs that are gone. Denying the impact of these types of immoral fishing activities is ignorance and stupidity. It is our responsibility to leave fish for the keiki in the future. I never pound like that.
alawaiman 3 years ago
eh guys, no forget that old style traditional hawn fishin practices neva had mono nets, snorkel equiptment and such... u like teach da keiki old style methods, go all da way... no lay net with modern stuff and call it traditional old style fishin practices...
alojas00 3 years ago
Cool story bro.
Retard #4.
kaloaloa 2 years ago
ignorant people like you BaBUZE just run your mouths when they see this video. we only take what we will eat and pau. Pointing fingers is the best thing you can do. You dont even have a clue about the man in that video but yet out goes the finger and all you hear is shit. And i aint blaming haoles for raping the ocean. As far as i know get choke fish allover. Enjoy your hamburgers cause we be eating fish for a long time.....!
kamakaala 3 years ago
U can't be serious.
alawaiman 3 years ago
Retard #3.
kaloaloa 2 years ago
kamakaala,..."land bird"??? you iz one "BaBUZE". Hawaiians blames the Haoles for everything when it's your own people(hawaiian) that do shit like this. I would'nt be surprise that this is the same guy who nets the halalu schools from Chinaman's Hat to laie!!! As far as I know, hawaiians never had manofilament for nets, but today, they "Go 4 Broke" when they lay nets. 100,200,300 feet or more. talk about raping the ocean.
U1BaBuze 3 years ago
U1babuze, don't comment on this, seems like your priority's lie elsewhere you sick puppy. I hope you're not hawaiian, if you are drown yourself!
jsimeona71 3 years ago
retard #2.
kaloaloa 2 years ago
Don't worry about over fishing people, cause one day soon we wont be able to even eat our fish because of ciguatera. now worry about that. And when that happens, the Hawaiian people just lost their LIFELINE.
kamakaala 3 years ago
Retard #1.
kaloaloa 2 years ago
And for BaBuze, he is already showing his grandkids how much fish there still is. He is just teaching them the things that all you land birds wish you could do.
kamakaala 3 years ago
And uncle salty sounds like you only salty balls cause you forgot hawaiian style or never knew it
kamakaala 3 years ago
If you were so disturbed about the video you should of went up and talked to him. You would have found out that he is only catching fish for a luau. This man will give his entire catch awy before he reaches home. Stopping at all the neighbors houses giving to all the families.
kamakaala 3 years ago
I live Hauula too, dis exact spot use to always have one small pile oama when the run was on, not as big as Punaluu, or Kaaawa but always had. Now get the same as them....ZERO for the last couple, three years. Sheesh brada fada no mo hawaiian style!
UncleSalty808 3 years ago
No Scared Hawaiian.... wipe out the the whole school of fish in one crack. At least you get video to show your grandkids why no moa fish.
U1BaBuze 3 years ago
dis is my town Hauula and i c first hand what
over-fishing can do
Sojaofdapepo 3 years ago
He is using the skills he learned in the past when fish were more plentiful? Bra it's 2008! Try ask him how much he catch now. Yeah you catch what you going eat and use for bait but no gotta get nuts at hawaiian down there!He just saying "some" guys that lay net are greedy! But whatever
HiloStyle 3 years ago
kauiboy89, sounds like sour grapes. What you should do is try to broaden and improve your skills as an all around fisherman as this man does. He is equaly skilled throwing net as laying net or pole fishing etc. He is using the skills he learned in the past when fish were more plentifull and through experience is able to identify an opurtunity and then choose the best tchnique. More important is the fact that he is always eager to share and teach these skills.
photobykent 4 years ago
i go whipping at my usual spots and i wil always leave the lay nets alone even though i think its bs and the cheat way to catch fish, but if my lure happens to get tanlged in the net then i bust out my knife and start cutting, i can respect the old ways but this is a wole different time where fish numbers are dropping and guys that still lay net are ruining it for everyone and the future genertions, i have more respect to the man who can get in the water with a throw net
kauaiboy89 4 years ago
Supreme Court states: [t]he State is obligated to protect the reasonable exercise of customarily and traditionally exercised rights of Hawaiians (your ohana if they where Hwn. citizens). The same court decision states: "HRS s 5-7.5(b), we are authorized to "give consideration to the 'Aloha Spirit'." The Aloha Spirit "was the working philosophy of native Hawaiians(;) ... 'Aloha' is the essence of relationships in which each person is important to every other person for collective existence."
keomai 4 years ago
its our rights but as hawaiian people we have to realize fish populations arent going to get better with lay netters raping our oceans of the fish our keiki could be catching in the future, i dont care who i see breaking the fishing regulations, if i see u ill come up to u and tell u str8, what the unko in the video is doing isnt illegal but it still isnt pono
kauaiboy89 4 years ago
HEy OPUNUI 808, if you did MEET UP WIT HIM he would happily give you a fish. Lets try focus on the real problems here not each other. dont bite the cheese!
keomai 4 years ago
Hey OPUNUI808, If you did meet up wit him he would happily give you some fish! Brah lets focus on the real problems are and not each other.Don't bite the cheese!
keomai 4 years ago
The person in this video, is one of the most responsible fisherman I know,a true Hawaiian -helping young people to keep traditions alive--full of Aloha always caring for his ohana, community (including the resources)and especially those in need. More importantly, he is exercising his native gathering rights pursuant to the law- that predate the current exploitive commercial practices that ARE depleteing our ocean resources today. Where is the Aloha here-- brah?
keomai 4 years ago
You need to catch the guys leaving their nets in the water for days and too long thats the guys you need to be catching NOT THE FIRST GUY YOU SEE WITH A BOAT AND A NET and start pointing fingers. Making false accusations and slandering someone you dont even know.
Nevinkamakaala 4 years ago
i agree in a way, the guys that leave their nets there are fuckn pricks and just waste fish, but also, this is not the old days where fish were plentifull, i think laying net isnt gonna make our fish numbers any better, i understand your probly trying to feed your keiki and ohana but this type of fishing is killin it for the rest of us, real fisherman go out there with a pole and take what they can get, i can respect throw netters more than lay netters
kauaiboy89 4 years ago
okk first of all MY DAD IS THE GUY IN THIS VIDEO.. and obviously you guys dont no anything about fishing and this is not even an oama net, oama can easily swim through this net. This net is 2-1/2" and we were surrounding weke. and talking about taking the fun out of fishing, OK hawaiians have been using nets for hundreds of years and you wonder why theres still fish its called MANAGING OUR WATERS... (read below I not pau yet)
Nevinkamakaala 4 years ago
STOP DA GILL NETTING!!!
4reelbra 4 years ago
Like manevs1 said!! I dont see anything wrong either. Theres no evidence here showing anything was done wrong. Did you see the size of the eyes on the net..cause it doesnt look like any oama's would get stuck in dat net. Whoever took da footage u shouldve stuck around to see what was really going on and what he actually caught, until then...dont be accusing unless you got da facts straight.
soljahboy808 4 years ago 2
Das why hard. At least people can see why no mo da Oama schools... But you tink DLNR going stop this shit from happening? HELL NO!!! Well at least this kid in the video can show it to his kids why no moa da Oama anymore.
U1BaBuze 4 years ago
Don't see anything wrong here, looks to me that he and his family were only "pa'i pa'i" fishing. To consider him selfish without seeing if he left it for more than the regulated time is pre-mature. You guys make like there is no such thing as a responsible fisherman. Given the fact that he was right off the road (in plain view), I don't think he left it in for a long period. Some people gotta support their family, if you wanna hate on someone make sure they're actually breaking the law.
manevs1 4 years ago
Mahalo for catching that on tape. Hate selfish people like that, who take all the fun out of fishing!!!
RealEstateJake 4 years ago
Braddas thats all jacked up !!! NO CAN !!! I WOULD LIKE TO MEET UP WIT ONE DAY !!!
opunui808 4 years ago
i hope you give this video footage to the hawaii DLNR
eickul 4 years ago