I find your arguments against the Chinese nation to be very close minded and some what childish, to merely think of the west being better than the rest is misguided at best, ignorant at worst.
Word of advice, take a step back and try to find out the truth for yourself from just one source (the west) and dont be such a hypocrite.
Freedom of speech is nothing without objective and critical reporting. The Chinese media maybe government controlled but the western media is no better, they cut and shape the truth to complement their agenda.
Genocide.... try traveling to China and see for yourself how the Chinese government treat the different ethnic minorities.
It's easy to say no one is better than anyone else and call it a day, but the west is better. Unless you like internal corruption and atrocities.
The western media is FAR freer. Sure they have biases, but they're not controlled by a single entity like the news in China is controlled by the communist party.
The current situation with expenses in the British government and various other corrupt practises does not make the west whiter than white.
You talk about Atrocities, but the west has stood by and let atrocities happen, even more worrying is the power gained by the BNP and various other far left political organizations in the recent elections. I think we should first look to our shores and make our foundations solid before jumping to conclusions.
Yes there are scandals in the west. You know how you know that? The media is free, thanks for proving me right. Also, you can't blame the US for standing by when atrocities happen. Whenever they do go in, people like you criticise them for acting like world police. 'our shores'? Which shores are those?
Again this shows someone has to get the last word in. Me not arguing with you shows there are people like yourself with such close minds, that makes talking sense to you almost impossible. Open mindedness is some what lacking in society these days especially when you are so arrogant to think only your view is right, and will not even be willing to hear the other side.
So it is closed minded to want to argue? I think you are merely seeking to use the brand 'closed minded' to demean and belittle, which ironically is in itself 'close minded'. I just find it hilarious that you use that term to describe anyone who doesn't agree with you. Clearly you need to work on your vocabulary and pick a more appropriate phrase.
I have heard your argument, and that is that China shouldn't receive so much negative press.
I disagree, I think it's a horrible nation which mutilates and sells it's prisoners piece by piece, persecutes various religions as a matter of policy, tries to wipe out Tibetans for their own economic and political ends and completely censors everything coming in and out of the country.
If anything, it should be given more media attention for doing the horrible things it does.
Yes, the west has negative attributes also, but we aren't butchering prisoners, running over students with tanks and censoring our people so severely.
I also find it laughable that you think the western media is controlled by one force, it thrives on scandal. Anything that comes out of government in the west that is negative will be picked up and run.
It's amusing that in this video you're calling for objectivity, yet the video itself attempts to use music to lead emotions.thoughts.
When you say horrible nation I hope you dont mean the entire population, I hope you mean the government. The majority of people in China, Im sure are decent folk.
Selling it's prisoners piece by piece, it's actually the families that sell the organs, they would'ne sell them if there wasnt a demand for such things and it's their choice. People in the west especially the Uk are always complaining about the length of organ waiting lists, many goto China, India and Russia for organs.
Persecution of various religions does not only happen in China, its happend every where. Take Northern Ireland for example, where Im from, religious persecution happens because someone coming from one side of the river or the other.
Tibet is a far more complex issue than just the Chinese government killing the people for their own needs, in fact there are many laws in China that give ethnic minorities far more freedom and rights than the majority Han population, for example, the ethnic minorities are allowed more children, and those wanting to settle in cities are favoured over Hans.
Sensoring.... what country does'nt sensor what it tells trhe public, the west merely SPINs the truth.
god bless china....
kjeremiahamoss 6 months ago
I find your arguments against the Chinese nation to be very close minded and some what childish, to merely think of the west being better than the rest is misguided at best, ignorant at worst.
Word of advice, take a step back and try to find out the truth for yourself from just one source (the west) and dont be such a hypocrite.
tianzuohuo 2 years ago
Will it end?
No.
Yet - maybe.
We are trying too.
Hickey66 2 years ago
also, if china was so great, why did you leave?
kyosuke691 3 years ago
That is a very close minded question.
Freedom of speech is nothing without objective and critical reporting. The Chinese media maybe government controlled but the western media is no better, they cut and shape the truth to complement their agenda.
Genocide.... try traveling to China and see for yourself how the Chinese government treat the different ethnic minorities.
tianzuohuo 2 years ago
It's easy to say no one is better than anyone else and call it a day, but the west is better. Unless you like internal corruption and atrocities.
The western media is FAR freer. Sure they have biases, but they're not controlled by a single entity like the news in China is controlled by the communist party.
LOL
kyosuke691 2 years ago
The current situation with expenses in the British government and various other corrupt practises does not make the west whiter than white.
You talk about Atrocities, but the west has stood by and let atrocities happen, even more worrying is the power gained by the BNP and various other far left political organizations in the recent elections. I think we should first look to our shores and make our foundations solid before jumping to conclusions.
tianzuohuo 2 years ago
Yes there are scandals in the west. You know how you know that? The media is free, thanks for proving me right. Also, you can't blame the US for standing by when atrocities happen. Whenever they do go in, people like you criticise them for acting like world police. 'our shores'? Which shores are those?
kyosuke691 2 years ago
There is no point in further discussion, you are bring personal assumption about myself and not really willing to listen.
Morality can only be formed by seeing the facts, you are too opionated to see the facts.
The facts of this clip is about the western media, having someone worse than the western media, does not make the western media right.
Kind Regards
tianzuohuo 2 years ago
In other words you can't argue with me as you know I'm right, so you're attempting to bow out and maintain the littlest bit of dignity.
kyosuke691 2 years ago
Again this shows someone has to get the last word in. Me not arguing with you shows there are people like yourself with such close minds, that makes talking sense to you almost impossible. Open mindedness is some what lacking in society these days especially when you are so arrogant to think only your view is right, and will not even be willing to hear the other side.
tianzuohuo 2 years ago
So it is closed minded to want to argue? I think you are merely seeking to use the brand 'closed minded' to demean and belittle, which ironically is in itself 'close minded'. I just find it hilarious that you use that term to describe anyone who doesn't agree with you. Clearly you need to work on your vocabulary and pick a more appropriate phrase.
kyosuke691 2 years ago
I have heard your argument, and that is that China shouldn't receive so much negative press.
I disagree, I think it's a horrible nation which mutilates and sells it's prisoners piece by piece, persecutes various religions as a matter of policy, tries to wipe out Tibetans for their own economic and political ends and completely censors everything coming in and out of the country.
If anything, it should be given more media attention for doing the horrible things it does.
kyosuke691 2 years ago
Yes, the west has negative attributes also, but we aren't butchering prisoners, running over students with tanks and censoring our people so severely.
I also find it laughable that you think the western media is controlled by one force, it thrives on scandal. Anything that comes out of government in the west that is negative will be picked up and run.
It's amusing that in this video you're calling for objectivity, yet the video itself attempts to use music to lead emotions.thoughts.
kyosuke691 2 years ago
When you say horrible nation I hope you dont mean the entire population, I hope you mean the government. The majority of people in China, Im sure are decent folk.
Selling it's prisoners piece by piece, it's actually the families that sell the organs, they would'ne sell them if there wasnt a demand for such things and it's their choice. People in the west especially the Uk are always complaining about the length of organ waiting lists, many goto China, India and Russia for organs.
tianzuohuo 2 years ago
Persecution of various religions does not only happen in China, its happend every where. Take Northern Ireland for example, where Im from, religious persecution happens because someone coming from one side of the river or the other.
tianzuohuo 2 years ago
Tibet is a far more complex issue than just the Chinese government killing the people for their own needs, in fact there are many laws in China that give ethnic minorities far more freedom and rights than the majority Han population, for example, the ethnic minorities are allowed more children, and those wanting to settle in cities are favoured over Hans.
Sensoring.... what country does'nt sensor what it tells trhe public, the west merely SPINs the truth.
tianzuohuo 2 years ago
at least western media has freedom of speech, the chinese media is led by the nose by the communist party.
Also: Tibet. Way to genocide.
kyosuke691 3 years ago
Try having this protest in China. I'll listen to you when you're done. Do they allow visitors in Chinese gaols?
lft18 3 years ago