Scientology's 'Second Chance New Mexico' does *WORSE* than doing nothing

[Racsonify]

PUMA dopes. If you keep smoking that shit and sucking tht dick you´ll end up into a noarcofagsnon-processing for free! Just look at your shameless swine image, the proptotype and icon of aberration.

[Desertphile]

@Racsonify ; narCONon kills people; it is also utterly worthless, and it makes drug addicts worse. Scientology kills people.

[eternalricemuncher]

mind you if the criminals get screwed by scientology the attack on scientology will be from expert criminals

[eternalricemuncher]

the worst part is if scientology is focusing on converting criminals then when it teaches former criminals the fair game policy is the general public going to be safe?

[artisticideals]

whyweprotest . net

Learn. Grow. Evolve. Become better than Scientology.

[jerrylewis333]

$cientology does worse than anything.

[satansmissionary6669]

Be MUY careful, my honored elder brother! Scientology kills people!

[darthspeaks]

LOL Scientology's new poster: "This is better than doing at all!" LOL

[shadowplotter]

reckon its possible the drugs got planted on em at all? maybe they told some scientologist where he could shove the big book of lies and they didnt like it

[DreHectik]

In terms of killing people, take a look and see how many people have died through psychiatry. It's a human phenomena that accidents happen sometimes, an innocent person dies from getting hit by a car all the time...by shear accident. I don't know why I'm backing up scientology so much, but when I was doing it, it really did something good for me.

[Desertphile]

"... take a look and see how many people have died through psychiatry."

Flunk!Unable to evaluate data! Start over. You are now in session: spot a spot.

[ravenxcult]

While I agree that Scientology is a cult, and that there programs are bogus, YOUR NOT DOING ANY GOOD LOOKING LIKE YOU ARE DRUNK/STONED IN YOUR COMMENTARY. Clean yourself up, and repost a new video so the scifags cant fair game your efforts and try to discredit this information that you are presenting. Even though everything you say is true, your appearance is hurting your message, sad but true.

[DarthX3nu]

$cientology is a cult because it seeks to control the life of its adherents, for the benefit their leader, though pseudo religious beliefs.

[callyadokta]

hello! brainwashers! and brainwasheeees! scientology is a farse, a fake, a phony way of sucking you in and taking all you have including your soul. People, get real!

[jimcoburn192]

are you drunk?

[DarthX3nu]

The advice no $cientologist will ever give you: Visit scientology(dot)org, then visit xenu(dot)net, have both sides of the story, come to your own conclusions!

[DreHectik]

Why is it always a sloopy moron that tries to rip at Scientology?? No offense, but I've studied Scientology and I found it to be a good take on reality. I don't know about the second chance program, but I know of the Purif program, and I found that to really be the best detox program I've found. This guy actually looks like he could use the purif program...it's a great detox. :)

[Desertphile]

"I've studied Scientology and I found it to be a good take on reality"

Xenu.

[lordpoee]

Haha. Good call.

[NomadSoul76]

""I've studied Scientology and I found it to be a good take on reality"

Xenu."

Most devastatingly understated response I have ever seen.

[sk8mike]

No offense, but you are stupid, evil! You have never studied Time Cube. Gene Ray's Time Cube is clearly a better take on reality than $cientology.

You would be wiser if unschooled then be taught ONEness stupidity to worship Evil of ONEism, contradicted by Opposite Creation. Religion is Organize Crime to collect $Tithes. Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human. --Gene Ray

[DreHectik]

It doesnt matter much to me what people think about my response. Because I'm really just being honest. I don't understand why people think scientology is so bad? It really has done good things for me.

[Desertphile]

"I don't understand why people think scientology is so bad?"

You mean other than the crime syndicate robbing and killing people?

[satansmissionary6669]

Like taking all your money to "cleanse" you of Xenu's Body Thetan and cutting you off from your family.

Yep, Scientology is now classible with The Big Five in fraud, fakery, foolishness and fucking up its members' lives.

[Desertphile]

Wow, I just did a YouTube search for "scientology" and this is the FIRST VIDEO LISTED! That's gotta hurt.....

[smaakjeks]

Oh, awesome! You're doing a great public service with your efforts!

[FrankMahovlich]

Great video and he does not scratch his balls at 2:10.

[TrooperCX]

they do it for the lulz

[DarthX3nu]

Bump!

[JohnDoe280]

He looks just like Bill Murray's character in Caddyshack.

[squilky1951]

Give them another 12 months it will shoot up to 100 per cent.

[InReasonWeTrust]

Dang, I want to become a drugged out Scientologist. I haven't had a sauna massage in years!

[FreedomToResearch]

Narco-con

[ChrisJMoor]

'a sauna room crammed full of men giving massages to each other?'

$cientology should just go the full hog and play 'YMCA' in the background. 'Brotherly' love might not help 'rehabilitation' but unlike huge doses of vitamin B it cannot do any harm.

[Desertphile]

"$cientology should just go the full hog and play 'YMCA' in the background."

ROTFL! There was a time I used to love that song until I read the lyrics. :-)

[ChrisJMoor]

Ha! I used to go to childrens' parties where they played that song and got us to do all the dance moves. I doubt they knew what significance the 'YMCA' had as far as The Village People were concerned.

[shalindriaharam]

funny how Scientology works. I love how they hire "graduates", like the blind leading the blind. The steam room looked like a "sausage fest", which I'm sure really helped them be "rehabilitated". Who the hell let sci do this?

[sausage4mash]

$cientology is just taping into the gold mine, known as stupid .

[ruzz3ii]

PS -- The DARE program for kids is similarly worthless. There is no evidence that it works.

[ruzz3ii]

With any luck at all, this company is getting federal faith-based funds.

[1n354a]

What is amazing is that they are probably going to get additional funding...even though there is no evidence that their program has any beneficial effect.

[HotlantaAnon]

I love it when we use logic against $cientology. they just can't seem to win

[mattblackcat]

Lies, damn lies, scientology lies and statistics.

:-)

[klangsteiner]

Considering the background and current practices of $cientology (fraud, extortion, violation of rights, murder, etc.), where else would you find a better recruitment source than a group of criminals?

[h8uall66]

I hate to have to beat this drum over and over again, but it is disgraceful that YOU had to be the one presenting the straight statistical facts about this case. It was the journalists responsibility to point out that this program was actually WORSE than doing nothing. Journalism in America is dead.

[Desertphile]

"I hate to have to beat this drum over and over again, but it is disgraceful that YOU had to be the one presenting the straight statistical facts about this case."

Yes indeed, however there is a bright side: KRQE thanked me for correcting their "32% success rate" mistake! Wee hee!

[h8uall66]

Well that's good I guess. Better than a poke in the eye anyways.

[TheEvilOfScientology]

Awesome! Pure & simple.

Well done DesertPhile.

[squilky1951]

What a damning indictment,NARCONON=CRAP

[NicNasty1981]

Epic, i just went to the link in the video. Funny how $camology refuses to post any results. Oh yeah, thats cause all their programs are for is indoctrination.

[NicNasty1981]

lol narCONon failure gets exposed, changes name to second chance gets exposed again, and i bet they do it again.

I bet you from now on if a rehabilitation group wants to work in prison they have to put down on their papers "our techniques have not been developed by LRH or affiliated with the Cult of $camology"

[xenuismaster]

Amazing! Horrific though. And Second Chance are actually trying to get MORE funding

[Paxmax]

-HAA-haa! *points finger at $cientology*

It feels like a oxymoron to put "successrate" in same sentence as scientology.

Great job DP!

[dyonisos75]

scientology sucks

[WizardJim]

If I was locked in a sauna, overdosed on vitamins and massaged by hairy, sweaty men I think I'd want to hit the pipe too.

[dileepvr]

A second Chance in Prison ^_^

[auchraw]

This is good. Keep at it. Sooner or later public accountability ought to catch up with these crooks.

However I am confused. Surely Second Chance has nothing to do with drug abuse but with criminal activity and recidivism on the part of prisoners. It is a new name for Criminon. The drug program Narconon is just as bad only it exploits and sometimes kills (woops!) drug addicts. AMIRITE?

[macman13]

I edit video for a public access TV station in Del Mar California and one of the PSA'a they gave me to put into a program was from NARCANON. I was so pissed I almost didn't put it in, but they would have sent it back.

[parrotnutz]

don`t you mean narCONon?

[macman13]

HA i see what you did there

[d3adp001]

And the tax payers pay for this, among other insane programs.

[lazyperfectionist1]

So narconon is also known as "Second Chance?"

[kingbrandor]

im glad i live in a small redneck area where most people dont even know what scientology is lol, that cult gives me the creeps .

[lazyperfectionist1]

Sounds like an area with not much affluence. That the reason Scientology has not made itself known there so far.

[AnethSvartalf]

Awesome! Keep exposing those cultists!

[snoopdog68]

Im on drugs right now and am very happy.

[bl4ckd0g187]

yes, we would all hope the Super Adventure Club puts little boys in separate saunas, giving them a break from the hard-core pedophilia.

I just don't understand this... how can they make things worse than doing nothing? that shouldn't be possible unless they TRY to be worse than doing nothing.....

[nitzer93]

i believe what you're saying, DP -- narconon is bunk. but now, after over a year of seeing your videos level and dispel any hint of narconon credibility, i have to wonder: why do you care so much? did you go through narconon yourself, and feel wronged? maybe a family member or close friend of yours went through it? it seems personal with you.

[Relyt22]

Probably because people are still fooled by it. Like all the videos about free energy cultists, as well.

[bl4ckd0g187]

it doesn't strike you as wrong? someone might get subjected to this bunk for barbituate addiction, and DIE. barbituate pills, when used properly, are relatively harmless; they're heavy duty sedatives used to sleep. so, relatively harmless pills, or liver failure? which is worse? and narconon/second chance GET AWAY WITH THIS SHIT.

[maintoc]

Statistics! Bah! You know what they say, Desertphile: "If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the other 2%?" :p :p :p

[Textra1]

lol funny

[commodore256]

look at the ads in the video

"Narconon Drug Rehab

Narconon is one of the oldest and most successful programs ever."

Can you believe this bullshit?

[mobiltec]

Dang! Look at all the advertisements in the upper right corner of the page now. And at the top of the list? Narconon Drug Rehab.

Addictive personalities never really get cured. They just substitute one addiction for another. Sit in on an AA meeting and watch the crowd suck down caffine and chain smoke while talking about how their lives have been changed by AA and how re-habilitated they are.

It might be that only one third of the inmates are cabable of making a switch to something legal.

[Desertphile]

The advertising is due to YouTube's "Third Party Content" policy. Damn.

[EvilZoe]

Funny, I don't see any ads at all.

Oh wait, it must be this little browser plugin called AdBlockPlus.

Now how'd THAT get in there? The silly monkey.

[mobiltec]

My computer slows way down with ad blockers. I don't mind the ads really. I can choose to read them or not. Free country and all that.

How ya doin there EZ? Long time no hear from.

[EvilZoe]

And NOT using AdBlockPlus, allowing the ads to show, slows MY computer down to the point where I can't do anything at all.

Since my laptop died, browsing the internet can be painful with this old desktop.

Things are not going well, I'm afraid. I've been unemployed far too long and am heading for foreclosure and financial ruin.

But I'm healthy...lol

[Desertphile]

"Now how'd THAT get in there? The silly monkey."

Hee! I use it also, and I don't see any advertising. :-) I'm surprised some people still don't use ad blocking software--- it makes the 'net so much nicer!

[Textra1]

I swear by my ad blocker. Since we're on metered bandwidth here in Australia I have to economise all I can. 50GB per month goes by far too quickly to be giving it over to ads.

[felinoid]

My solution to the war on drugs, Narconon. My education plan, teach creationism, My energy plan, magnets, If elected I will bring this nation to third word standards inside a year.

[mobiltec]

"If elected I will bring this nation to third world standards inside a year."

Mr Obama,

If you don't mind, we would like to keep things as they are. Right now, doing NOTHING is better than what you are planning to do. Please just be happy with being the first black man elected to the office of president of the US and get us out of Iraq. That is all we ask of you. Oh and get rid of the Irish PLEASE!

[hellshade2]

as for the massaging each other....i'm a little creeped out there...

[Textra1]

Creepy massages indeed. Not surprising coming from the Super Adventure Club.

[Desertphile]

"Not surprising coming from the Super Adventure Club."

ROTFL! I suppose (hope) the little boys are put in separate saunas.

[hellshade2]

"...that is WORSE than doing nothing at all..."

indeed

[Desertphile]

Event more funny, the Scientology video found at

watch?v=AtP4KY1fTQg

shows one of the "graduates" speaking how great Second Chance is, but he is now back in prison! It's the last guy, with the greenish-blue shirt.

[Textra1]

I watched that video. Those guys a friggin' hilarious. I tried to leave a comment, but of course got the 'Comment Pending Approval' message. Something tells me they're not going to approve my message.

Here's what I left

"How can you say the programme is working when the success rate is worse than doing nothing at all?

watch?v=1DAWHI72nXk

[URL to SecondChanceCenter_FinalReport­v16_Final.pdf]"

As you can see, no hate speech, no rudeness, no profanity, just an honest question.

[Desertphile]

"As you can see, no hate speech, no rudeness, no profanity, just an honest question."

Honest questions and Scientology do not mix. It's just, like, "Hey! That guy's back in prison!" it's just so gods damned FUNNY!!!!

[NotSoOldHippy]

You should post a note and URL to your video to ars.

[Desertphile]

"You should post a note and URL to your video to ars."

I will do that, and thank you for reminding me.

[Nykytyne]

Scientology is a corrupt criminal organization. Kind of like the medieval Catholic church, only with less power.

(Kind of like the modern Catholic church).

[Textra1]

"...only with less power."

At the moment. Unless we work to make sure they are revealed for the frauds and con-artists they are, they are only going to grow in strength. The parasitic meme of scientology is in some ways worse than the catholic church. Society is replete with examples of star worship, so with all the Hollywood high-school drop-out movie stars jumping on board, they have a built in x-factor appeal...and more money than Moses.

[Textra1]

Why am I surprised that scientologists maths and statistics skills are so awful.

[Desertphile]

Please note that this video contains third-party content via KRQE News 13, Albuquerque, and used under their third-party usage policy. And thank you very much!