For those who are interested in knowing more about how the health care industry works today, you might want to lookup "House Energy and Commerce Subcmte. on Terminations of Individual Health Policies" on CSPAN's website.
Dont chred on I Hoosayn Borock Oboma! wooOOOOoooyeeehaww! We herd them will make the uninsured by inshorans or ells peigh an penalltey. Finaley an good ideeuh frum an black howce! I hav chanjd my mind and now suport helth kare reform. No publik opshon but more bizness and money four inshorans companeys throo manduhtorey coverej. Them kan keap rates high and now get the 47 million uninshord as knew kustomerz. Lets pas that as it stands! Gawd bles Walmart NASCAR Harleys and Blu kross! YEAH!
the comment above is obviously someone pretending to be from the right, who actually is from the left. It's a common tactic of the progressive movement to invent crazy right wingers. In reality, people like that don't exist -- at least on the right.
Nice triptows you live large off everyone else. Who do you think picks up your tab? Do you think that cost isn't passed off on EVERYONE Else? How many of these people are on Medicare they look old enough to have socialized medicare. Every company needs a well educated & heathy work force. How much $ would be freed up for companies if they didn't have heath care cost? Let's debate & get it right or all companies will move over seas where heath care is given by the government, or repeal NAFTA
its good to see Americans and europeans finally coverging on issues like health. If people stopped their paranoia of socialism (American police, teachers, firemen, nasa and the military are all socialised, why not medicine?) they might be able to improve on the european systems.
its not good that the teachers are socialized...that's where the confusion is. just because government programs exist now, doesn't mean they've worked and done us a great job...the teachers union is a wasteful program, just like all the rest of the Government programs that have done nothing. Health care is an important issue and insuring every American citizen with force will drastically change our standard of living and our Country. People won't be having it. The power is with us, not Gov't
well hopefully you can figure out a new system that addresses the inequality in your system and the waste in our european ones. I just think that Americans have the chance to look at other systems around the world, examine their strengths and weaknesses and create a new better system. Dont be getting caught up in idealogical issues like socialism, big/small government - just be pragmatic and create a world class heath system.
How can I not get caught up in idealogical issues when our Government is trying to push them on us? Obama's plan for health care reform is straight up socialized medicine...straight up BIGGER government...but yet, I'm supposed to not get caught up in it? Why should we start doing what other countries do when they don't even come close how great America is? We got evil greedy men in power, but America was founded on great principles that are trying to be destroyed. We can't let it happen period
Be pragmatic, that's all im saying. The goal is a good healthcare system. If it takes bigger government to deliver that then you shouldn't let ideology stand in the way. Im not saying it is the best way, but at least consider it.
Who needs health care. For the pat 29 years my wife and kids have and no health care and I(we) save about $400 dallors a month on average maybe much more. When my boy broke a huge part of his arm, it cost me about $20,000. Three months later I filed bankrupt and kept the house, 3 cars, got rid of 100% of all hospital bills and on top of it over 80% of my credit card bills($23,000). And this is my second time bankrupt. Piece of cake guys. NO WAY FOR OBAMA. They cant deny from hospital care.
Click the account names on this page and see the TROLLS/SHILLS. If all they have is nothing, than you can probably assume that there viewpoint isn't worth a thing. If you think that this is a Republican/democrat issue you really need to WAKE UP. Bush paved the way for this Obamination of you country, and our rights. Nothing has changed with this "Change" of face. Bailouts, cap in trade, patriot act, torture prisons(not gitmo), 2.5 wars. AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE it is a private corporation.
First off, a public option is just that...an option! You can keep the same health care you have now there is nothing in the bill that makes you choose the public option. Plain and Simple! Also what is wrong with consulting a doctor about a living will. When you get old, you die. I know it sucks but its the truth. It's not even like you have to go consult a doctor about a living will...once again it's an option. I know this big scary black man frightens the older white populace but this is enough
Public option does not mean you have an option. It means the Govt CHOOSES UR ONLY OPTIONS (which is to stick with your private health insurer or go to the new "free" Gov't plan). Naturally, everyone who is demanding free health care for all are going to run to the Gov't run one...causing huge stress on the now living health insurers, (and the economy) and eventually phase them out altogether. Obama would never come out and say that is so..no one would want it. in other words...he's lying
If the bill passes, you can keep the insurance you have now. For instance, I have Cigna, which is not bad. I'll probably keep it...unless the gov't option is cheaper and/or better. What about this concept do you have a problem with exactly?
Also, no one is saying the gov't option will be "free." You'll have to pay premiums just like with any other insurance plan.
Read up. Stop listening to these morons at the town halls.
Obama and crew want you to feel at ease about this bill by saying you can keep your insurance. But even you said you would consider the Gov't plan if it was cheaper or "better". Thats the exact problem. People who believe the plan they have now is too expensive will go to the Gov't plan, also those who don't have it but want it. This will provide competition at first, but eventually..the private insurance industries would suffer by the Gov't intervention causing some to go bankrupt.
In 2003 Obama said in a speech he wanted to phase in a complete Gov't plan of health care...by phasing it in, he meant promising people they could keep their insurance plans...but knowing it would bankrupt private owned insurance companies...eventually phasing the private sector out completely and giving the Gov't control over everyone...(forced). Don't be mislead by Obama's promising easing words. Its all an agenda he is trying to carry out. Look up the speech in 2003 about health care..
Shouldn't we care more about covering everyone rather than the insurance companies' profits? You realize that the profits are the result of one or all of the following scenarios: people's claims are denied, their policies are dropped when they become too expensive (when they're the sickest) or premiums are higher than they need to be. And these profits are on top of administrative costs (underwriters- a.k.a. claim deniers) which are way higher than Medicare and Medicaid.
No, why should we (the people who work to have health insurance) be forced to cover everyone since 15% of Americans don't have it? Not to mention most of that percent chooses not to. The Gov't policies which you speak of that are too expensive and screwing people (Medicare, Medicaid) comes out of the taxpayer's paycheck which is already covering those who need those services. Now since that Gov't plan didn't work we need to force everyone to pay extra for those who don't want to pay at all?
Can't you see that Government programs don't work..hence Medicaid and Medicare. The Government isn't working for you or the good of the people..they are working for themselves. They are rich. not to mention they won't be participating in this nationwide health care reform if it were to pass..they have their own health plan. why? wouldn't they want to join in on this great plan they have concocted? guess they know the deal..(that's its worthless).
So your saying we don't need reform and the system we have now works fine...right? Why would you want Obamacare then? Medicaid and Medicare is what has failed and in turn, has made costs go up and doctors pissed.
First of all, why call it "Obamacare" when Congress is writing the bill?
Second, we need "Obamacare" because only the poor can get Medicaid and only the old can get Medicare. There are still another 40+ million people without insurance. This is why we need the gov't option.
interfering with the private sectors including health insurance companies is not what will improve the economy...especially jobs for that matter. More people will suffer with this Gov't plan..not to mention a complete insult to people's right to choose. This will undermine health care quality with a huge new number of demand of patients. some are struggling with $ but the Gov't promising they are good men of honor who will help is a fraud and an unstable way of thinking to portray to americans
It seems obvious that some people go crazy at the mention of government. What is more free than being able to make a choice within several options including a government plan. No one is forcing anybody to get into the government run insurance. That old man says he does not need government to get his gun, which is right but my question to him is who does he think runs is medicare? Some people just don't like Barack for reasons I will not get into which shows we still have a long way to go...
I agree completely! This anger over health care is not only unjustified but also a clear disguise of racism. I wonder if this much fear and hate would be prevalent if a white man was in office.
this video is not acurate the government is very much needed in order to force big medical industry and insurance to provide affordable options as well as to create other options such as single payer or co-op options otherwise there is no hope for people who are not wealthy. The bill does not remove the insurance or healthcare options that people currently have so the opinions that are shared here are not accurate and are misleading. Please do your own reasearch and form your own opinion.
I dont see anyone on this video that doesn't qualify for medicare. I Did hear alot of B.S. though, especialy the man from Columbia, he probably wanted to get away from the U.S. sponsored right wing death squad's down there.
I do not believe in mandatory healthcare regardless of what kind it is or who is providing it. Bullshit. Freedom has nothing to do with mandatory insurance or federal identification.
This is about consolidation and centralization. And control.
It's about the fact that tens of millions of Americans don't have health insurance. But, Obama's incredibly watered-down, big business friendly approach to health care is far from the solution.
And how are these countries sampling their data? If you can't answer that, then stop making blanket statements like this.
You don't just grab a free lunch before you know what's on the menu. Taking this mandatory healthcare is like getting a free lunch, chock full of raw sewage.
Those countries "sample their data" the same way we do. Accumulation of public and medical records.
You're easily the tenth person I've had to tell this to, but the proposed public option is just that. An option. OPTION. Not mandatory. If you want to continue paying your insurance company, you may continue doing so. Nobody is forcing you to switch over to this plan.
As for a mandate that all people have some form of insurance- this is a good plan. Uninsured people hurt the system.
I had a back surgery that cost over 6 figures. I had it 30 days after seeing the surgeon, which took less than 30 days. It cost me 0 dollars. The insurance was private, and cost about 160 a month for family. Leave my insurance alone! If you think that this is a good idea, than you have not read the bill. Wait until they start adding pages, last min, and change the bill number so you can't follow what is being done; just like the "crap in trade/carbon tax" bill.
I'd like to get on your insurance bigc028282! Sounds great, what private insurance company are you with? I've been uninsured for about 10 years ever since I no longer qualified for my fathers insurance. I actually don't believe you can pay 160 a month and get good healthcare. I'm also one of thousands of students who don't have healthcare.
NETWORK HEALTH. The monthly was for my wife and I. There is no distinction between a couple or a family. It is provided by the employer. Co pays are 10 dollars. The company employees a few hundred.
There is so much dis and misinformation about this crap. Check out the Ronald Reagan speech to AARP, on utube. I found it very enlightening. I understand that not having insurance sucks. I hurt my back at about age 24 or so, snowboarding. I had no insurance. 12 yrs later I had it fixed.
ged, your account say's age 34. you have over 1000 videos seen, and 3 questionable saves. It's not a sock account is it? You have only been off your dads insurance for 10 years?
wow so much hostility? I think most Americans will work hard if they have the opportunity. Unfortunately the last president and his administration who also happened to be republican did not do such a good job helping to govern and be fiscaly repsponsible so now the us economy has spiraled downward and there are literally less jobs out there for me and other students and regular people to get off our"dead ass" and work for.
I don't know if you realize this, but both Houses were controlled by lefticals. They hammered away, day and night about how bad the economy was. Bush was a failure, and so was Congress. Both D's and R's are to blame. I put no faith in any man, telling me how to live my life. Their job is to represent us, and they have failed on every level.
Those crazy people in those town hall meetings are so silly that they have no idea about anything going on, especially health care.
The present health care system is an unjust system that is run by capitalist insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and banks. Banks run everything.
It's so sad that people do not read the fine print when they sign on to insurance. It's so scary.
What's really scary is that no one is reading the fine print in HR3300. They just seem to blab and blab about how great it'll be.
I'll tell you what, why don't you send ME your $150 per month for MY version of socialized medicine, and I'll even print you up a nifty little card to go with it. Then, every time you go to a doctor, they can tell you NO...just like they do with socialized medicine.
Also, all businesses with 25 plus employees will have to pay for their employees insurance or if opting out, then supply them with a check each month in equal amount. Insurance companies will not be allowed to screen for pre-existing conditions, drop individuals from their plan for pre-existing conditions, or even conduct 10 year history searches on people to check for an any number of conditions. It's not universal health care and it's not privatized capitalism either.
FYI- We are not going to have universal health care. We are actually going to have a happy medium with both private insurance, medicare, medicaid, and a public option.
Actually illegal aliens can not get free medical care. And legal immigrants have to wait five years before they can sign up for any coverage what so ever. It's the law. Look it up before you say anything that you have no clue about.
The poor get health care. At least in Texas, they do. The real question is would Jesus support stealing from the rich (i.e. taxing them more just because they are rich and can afford more generating class warfare and greed) and giving to the poor or would he support freely giving of oneself?
It's time to get the post office out of the private delivery business and save our UPS and Fedex!! I want to be able to choose who sends my packages!! Government is controlling my shipping weight!
Obama is HORRIBLE for this country. The U.S. taxpayer is FUCKING TIRED of paying for health care for illegal aliens and borrowing billions of dollars to give to other countries in charity. WTF? CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME! Stop giving billions to help countries and stop giving health care to illegals. STOP UN MONEY.
ROMNEY'S 2012 PLAN CUTS MEDICARE--Ron Paul’s plan cuts $1 trillion the first year and it balances the budget in 3 years. The plan cuts spending by ending the costly unconstitutional foreign wars, and cuts foreign welfare, corporate welfare, and overgrown federal bureaucracy. These cuts are made so that those who are dependent on domestic spending programs such as Medicare aren’t endangered through a sudden change in benefits. Romney’s plan cuts Medicare, on which many elderly Americans rely.
Look the Dems even have the union a**holes logging into youtube to post stupid and idiotic posts like rianfowler & pimplerma. Obama is Marxist who lives by the rules of Saul Alinksi who of course wrote the book "rules for radicals" and dedicated it to Lucifer. Obama is purposely trying to kill people to solve the SS problem.. This is Tierney and We The People need to OUST Obama,Pelosi,Reid,Frank,Shaheen,Porter, progressive M-F*ckers! even if it takes force!
It will be single payer - that is their goal! And if it is so great for the American people, why has Congress exempted themselves from participating in it!
Yes I know even I get lied to by republicans. Yet I am very well informed on the issue of health care re form thank you very much. And if you were too, you'd know that they're making big deals out of nothing at all.
Well, you might think your informed, but it sounds like your pretty close minded...and when you just believe what you hear...its called living in an illusion in Philosophy...so maybe you should open your mind a little bit more and realize everything you might believe might not be right. I'm not a Republican..Def not a democrat..because they both work for the same thing (money)..and this is actually a big deal, if you understood the Country you live in, you'd know this is a HUGE deal
Ha! well look at us!! I'm not a repub or dem. but I do believe the people in the video are misinformed. I have looked at all the bill and most of what these people are against aren't in the bill in the first place. As far as me living in an illusion maybe.... I'm more of an anarcist who his infavor of The Venus Project. I think that's the only way to go in the future.
Well, I've been hearing a lot of truth out there about the bill, idk where you get your truth because obviously its not a good source. The bill is written by the same people (the politicians) who lie on TV and everywhere else...why would they be honest in a written bill they authored? All they have to do is have their rich lawmakers craft the bill to genius terminology with hidden agendas and bore the sheep into accepting it blindly.
If universal health care is so great and effecient, then why is France socialized health care is on the brink of running out of money???
As Congress fights over whether America should be more like France, the French government is trying to borrow U.S. tactics.
Obama is making Americans into spoiled children, who want everything for free! Nothing is for free! This will take away our freedom to have the health care we want and need.
Um! I read the bill and it limits care for special needs and mentally ill. It also places euthenasia counseling as an option. That is disturbing. Especially with the science czar writing a book on how to systematically limit birth, and the bad genes by sterilizing our water it scary!!
NO, it does not limit care for special needs. It limits the ENROLLMENT period to before Jan 1, 2011, to the open enrollment period, or to when the special need is diagnosed.
And NO it does not place euthanasia counseling as an option. It gives patients on medicare the ability to, once every 5 years, obtain the service of getting help educating thmselves about living wills, power of attorneys, DNR forms, and other advance directives that play a VITAL part in helping doctors provide care.
A living will is something that is very important to have. It instructs the doctor on the wishes of the patient and how they want their care to be taken care of when they are in a condition to not be able to request or deny care directly.
To suggest that the section allowing for free consultations on advance directives is "euthanasia" counseling is just irresponsible.
I read the legislation. It is obvious that the people in this video did not.
This is not single payer.
The "limitation on enrollment for special needs" limits the enrollment to open enrollment or when a special need is diagnosed (or that they enroll before Jan 1 2011. That is reasonable.
And getting free consultations so that people on medicare can get help with living wills is NOT going to cause them to die early. Having a living will is a GOOD THING and this offers a SERVICE to those ppl
Did you see the video with Obama saying he was going to dupe the American citizens into thinking it was not single payer but the government plan would slowly put the private insurance out of business. I am angry about it. He has no right!! He is an elected official not a master manipulator.
How easy they are to be manipulated by big corp/politicians.
All anti-healthcare reform BS arguments are right off copy/paste lies from above(lobbiests/politicians) .
It's sad, very sad how people like you, like to be brainwashed and vote against your self-interest.
And they are MOBS, well paid shouting MOBS who have no interest in dialogue, their sole existence is to disrupt dialogue and depict a false image of public opinion.
ok, smartass why do these protesters know more of whats in the b.s. bill than the STUPID DICTATORS WHO ARE TRYING TO SELL IT AND WILL NOT RECEIVE THE PLAN FOR THEIR OWN FAMILIES, HEALTHCARE IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.
Yeah, we need more choice- but that also means that companies and insurance companies have less say in our health care. How about getting the government AND the companies out of our health care choices? We might as well get both out of those choices.
You have no idea what's in this bill. you should read it. You also have no idea who Obama works for. He is the Agent of the largest and most sinister mega-corporate monsters and the international banking cartel behind them. He is here to introduce you to a fascist police state with all your food and healthcare and vaccinations mandated and enforced by a UN and WHO/ WTO controlled military force. Thanks to Obama we can say goodbye to personal freedom COMPLETELY.
Many of these leaders have no clue what our Constitution requires of them nor what to do about it - nor do they have the courage to do what it takes if they did have a clue - and they continue to take the path of destruction for us. Encourage Principled people to take office; those who will stand and deliver; pick leaders among our groups who choose PRINCIPALS over PARTY and encourage them to take office; all levels of government. Principals over Party; People over Party. Lobby Your Neighbors
These people are trying to shutdown all civil debate and discourse concerning health care or anything that's not in corporate financial interests.
This isn't honest exercise of free speech; it is meant to intimidate, disrupt and stop the free speech of others and end an important public dialogue. It is harassment.
The GOP should just replace their symbol of the Elephant with a PLOT OF ASTROTURF.
So you just admitted that since the protesters don't have anything to contribute to an intelligent debate, this justifies violence towards those who do.
You are just trying to incite more of these right-wing nut jobs into killing more people. This rabid anti-intellectualism is killing our country.
AHAHAHA! OMG! Because the leftist liberal democrats NEVER intimidate, disrupt, and stop the free speech of others, right? Oh wait, that's right. Wasn't it that far leftist liberal thug organization the SEIU that beat up a conservative African-American man for selling "Don't Tread On Me" flags (a form of free speech, by the way) outside the town hall meeting in St. Louis? Yup, the democrats NEVER try to intimidate, disrupt, and stop free speech, ProgressiveAction10. Riiiight. Wink. Wink.
Oooooooooooooooo, they are so scary. I can see why Hodes, Shaheen, and Shea-Porter are so scared to leave their DC offices. I wouldn't want to face this angry rent-a-mob either.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
These moronic stooges for the insurance companies make me sick. Useful idiots, instead of participating in debate they regurgitate lines given to them by some conservative think tank. Now the movement of stupid people is on it's own fueled by the ranting o LImbaugh and Hannity. You see the average IQ of a Republican is far lower, and the chance of a Republican being a racist is far higher. Any Republican must admit that their party is full of dumb racists. That is why the party will soon die.
He gets TRICARE and a lot of perks for being a vet. And someone said TRICARE sucked. He'd be better off with a public option. So basically he doesn't even know he's ot doing himself a favor here.
Thank you, nhlimited, for taking the time to produce this video. Without it, we would never know about the rally in Hampstead. The crowd doesn't appear to be paid, bussed-in, professional disruptors. Ha. Ha.
It's great to see that Ammericans have woken to the Democrat's madlong dash to strip our freedom.
The Democrats are in a mad rush to pass this bill to keep the people from discussing it and becoming more informed. An informed American is their biggest nightmare.
For those who are interested in knowing more about how the health care industry works today, you might want to lookup "House Energy and Commerce Subcmte. on Terminations of Individual Health Policies" on CSPAN's website.
radoraf 2 years ago
Dont chred on I Hoosayn Borock Oboma! wooOOOOoooyeeehaww! We herd them will make the uninsured by inshorans or ells peigh an penalltey. Finaley an good ideeuh frum an black howce! I hav chanjd my mind and now suport helth kare reform. No publik opshon but more bizness and money four inshorans companeys throo manduhtorey coverej. Them kan keap rates high and now get the 47 million uninshord as knew kustomerz. Lets pas that as it stands! Gawd bles Walmart NASCAR Harleys and Blu kross! YEAH!
praizjesus 2 years ago
Go back to school and take spelling classes. I've seen immigrants write better English than you do.
radoraf 2 years ago
the comment above is obviously someone pretending to be from the right, who actually is from the left. It's a common tactic of the progressive movement to invent crazy right wingers. In reality, people like that don't exist -- at least on the right.
nhlimited 2 years ago
Damn crazy old white people getting pissed huh?
younggun708 2 years ago
Nice triptows you live large off everyone else. Who do you think picks up your tab? Do you think that cost isn't passed off on EVERYONE Else? How many of these people are on Medicare they look old enough to have socialized medicare. Every company needs a well educated & heathy work force. How much $ would be freed up for companies if they didn't have heath care cost? Let's debate & get it right or all companies will move over seas where heath care is given by the government, or repeal NAFTA
WhoRUASlave2 2 years ago
its good to see Americans and europeans finally coverging on issues like health. If people stopped their paranoia of socialism (American police, teachers, firemen, nasa and the military are all socialised, why not medicine?) they might be able to improve on the european systems.
mcai9mh3 2 years ago
its not good that the teachers are socialized...that's where the confusion is. just because government programs exist now, doesn't mean they've worked and done us a great job...the teachers union is a wasteful program, just like all the rest of the Government programs that have done nothing. Health care is an important issue and insuring every American citizen with force will drastically change our standard of living and our Country. People won't be having it. The power is with us, not Gov't
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
well hopefully you can figure out a new system that addresses the inequality in your system and the waste in our european ones. I just think that Americans have the chance to look at other systems around the world, examine their strengths and weaknesses and create a new better system. Dont be getting caught up in idealogical issues like socialism, big/small government - just be pragmatic and create a world class heath system.
mcai9mh3 2 years ago
How can I not get caught up in idealogical issues when our Government is trying to push them on us? Obama's plan for health care reform is straight up socialized medicine...straight up BIGGER government...but yet, I'm supposed to not get caught up in it? Why should we start doing what other countries do when they don't even come close how great America is? We got evil greedy men in power, but America was founded on great principles that are trying to be destroyed. We can't let it happen period
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
Be pragmatic, that's all im saying. The goal is a good healthcare system. If it takes bigger government to deliver that then you shouldn't let ideology stand in the way. Im not saying it is the best way, but at least consider it.
mcai9mh3 2 years ago
Aaah... a breath of fresh air, someone who MAKES SENSE!
radoraf 2 years ago
Who needs health care. For the pat 29 years my wife and kids have and no health care and I(we) save about $400 dallors a month on average maybe much more. When my boy broke a huge part of his arm, it cost me about $20,000. Three months later I filed bankrupt and kept the house, 3 cars, got rid of 100% of all hospital bills and on top of it over 80% of my credit card bills($23,000). And this is my second time bankrupt. Piece of cake guys. NO WAY FOR OBAMA. They cant deny from hospital care.
triptows 2 years ago
Click the account names on this page and see the TROLLS/SHILLS. If all they have is nothing, than you can probably assume that there viewpoint isn't worth a thing. If you think that this is a Republican/democrat issue you really need to WAKE UP. Bush paved the way for this Obamination of you country, and our rights. Nothing has changed with this "Change" of face. Bailouts, cap in trade, patriot act, torture prisons(not gitmo), 2.5 wars. AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE it is a private corporation.
bigc028282 2 years ago
First off, a public option is just that...an option! You can keep the same health care you have now there is nothing in the bill that makes you choose the public option. Plain and Simple! Also what is wrong with consulting a doctor about a living will. When you get old, you die. I know it sucks but its the truth. It's not even like you have to go consult a doctor about a living will...once again it's an option. I know this big scary black man frightens the older white populace but this is enough
wordskis79 2 years ago
Public option does not mean you have an option. It means the Govt CHOOSES UR ONLY OPTIONS (which is to stick with your private health insurer or go to the new "free" Gov't plan). Naturally, everyone who is demanding free health care for all are going to run to the Gov't run one...causing huge stress on the now living health insurers, (and the economy) and eventually phase them out altogether. Obama would never come out and say that is so..no one would want it. in other words...he's lying
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
If the bill passes, you can keep the insurance you have now. For instance, I have Cigna, which is not bad. I'll probably keep it...unless the gov't option is cheaper and/or better. What about this concept do you have a problem with exactly?
Also, no one is saying the gov't option will be "free." You'll have to pay premiums just like with any other insurance plan.
Read up. Stop listening to these morons at the town halls.
dougmanjones 2 years ago
Obama and crew want you to feel at ease about this bill by saying you can keep your insurance. But even you said you would consider the Gov't plan if it was cheaper or "better". Thats the exact problem. People who believe the plan they have now is too expensive will go to the Gov't plan, also those who don't have it but want it. This will provide competition at first, but eventually..the private insurance industries would suffer by the Gov't intervention causing some to go bankrupt.
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
In 2003 Obama said in a speech he wanted to phase in a complete Gov't plan of health care...by phasing it in, he meant promising people they could keep their insurance plans...but knowing it would bankrupt private owned insurance companies...eventually phasing the private sector out completely and giving the Gov't control over everyone...(forced). Don't be mislead by Obama's promising easing words. Its all an agenda he is trying to carry out. Look up the speech in 2003 about health care..
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
Shouldn't we care more about covering everyone rather than the insurance companies' profits? You realize that the profits are the result of one or all of the following scenarios: people's claims are denied, their policies are dropped when they become too expensive (when they're the sickest) or premiums are higher than they need to be. And these profits are on top of administrative costs (underwriters- a.k.a. claim deniers) which are way higher than Medicare and Medicaid.
dougmanjones 2 years ago
No, why should we (the people who work to have health insurance) be forced to cover everyone since 15% of Americans don't have it? Not to mention most of that percent chooses not to. The Gov't policies which you speak of that are too expensive and screwing people (Medicare, Medicaid) comes out of the taxpayer's paycheck which is already covering those who need those services. Now since that Gov't plan didn't work we need to force everyone to pay extra for those who don't want to pay at all?
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
Can't you see that Government programs don't work..hence Medicaid and Medicare. The Government isn't working for you or the good of the people..they are working for themselves. They are rich. not to mention they won't be participating in this nationwide health care reform if it were to pass..they have their own health plan. why? wouldn't they want to join in on this great plan they have concocted? guess they know the deal..(that's its worthless).
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
Medicaid and Medicare do work. You get sick, you get treated, you don't have to talk about money. Simple.
dougmanjones 2 years ago
So your saying we don't need reform and the system we have now works fine...right? Why would you want Obamacare then? Medicaid and Medicare is what has failed and in turn, has made costs go up and doctors pissed.
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
First of all, why call it "Obamacare" when Congress is writing the bill?
Second, we need "Obamacare" because only the poor can get Medicaid and only the old can get Medicare. There are still another 40+ million people without insurance. This is why we need the gov't option.
dougmanjones 2 years ago
interfering with the private sectors including health insurance companies is not what will improve the economy...especially jobs for that matter. More people will suffer with this Gov't plan..not to mention a complete insult to people's right to choose. This will undermine health care quality with a huge new number of demand of patients. some are struggling with $ but the Gov't promising they are good men of honor who will help is a fraud and an unstable way of thinking to portray to americans
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
It seems obvious that some people go crazy at the mention of government. What is more free than being able to make a choice within several options including a government plan. No one is forcing anybody to get into the government run insurance. That old man says he does not need government to get his gun, which is right but my question to him is who does he think runs is medicare? Some people just don't like Barack for reasons I will not get into which shows we still have a long way to go...
emekus 2 years ago
I agree completely! This anger over health care is not only unjustified but also a clear disguise of racism. I wonder if this much fear and hate would be prevalent if a white man was in office.
wordskis79 2 years ago
yes you need to work like me, i am a restroom attendant at a gay bar. i also do freelance gloryhole work
loanranger053 2 years ago
this video is not acurate the government is very much needed in order to force big medical industry and insurance to provide affordable options as well as to create other options such as single payer or co-op options otherwise there is no hope for people who are not wealthy. The bill does not remove the insurance or healthcare options that people currently have so the opinions that are shared here are not accurate and are misleading. Please do your own reasearch and form your own opinion.
gedimindtrix 2 years ago
Why do Democrats hate Americans so much?
dorlockt 2 years ago 2
It's true. Tens of millions of Americans don't have health insurance. Why do they hate us so?
AntiFascistUSA 2 years ago
Because they are Democommunists!
Halftrac 2 years ago 2
I dont see anyone on this video that doesn't qualify for medicare. I Did hear alot of B.S. though, especialy the man from Columbia, he probably wanted to get away from the U.S. sponsored right wing death squad's down there.
afferch 2 years ago
I do not believe in mandatory healthcare regardless of what kind it is or who is providing it. Bullshit. Freedom has nothing to do with mandatory insurance or federal identification.
This is about consolidation and centralization. And control.
electricshoulou 2 years ago
It's about the fact that tens of millions of Americans don't have health insurance. But, Obama's incredibly watered-down, big business friendly approach to health care is far from the solution.
AntiFascistUSA 2 years ago
People living in countries with socialized medicine live longer than us, have lower rates of disease than us and their care costs LESS than ours.
What about that doesn't sound better to you people?
BrianTotse 2 years ago
And how are these countries sampling their data? If you can't answer that, then stop making blanket statements like this.
You don't just grab a free lunch before you know what's on the menu. Taking this mandatory healthcare is like getting a free lunch, chock full of raw sewage.
dorlockt 2 years ago
Those countries "sample their data" the same way we do. Accumulation of public and medical records.
You're easily the tenth person I've had to tell this to, but the proposed public option is just that. An option. OPTION. Not mandatory. If you want to continue paying your insurance company, you may continue doing so. Nobody is forcing you to switch over to this plan.
As for a mandate that all people have some form of insurance- this is a good plan. Uninsured people hurt the system.
BrianTotse 2 years ago
I had a back surgery that cost over 6 figures. I had it 30 days after seeing the surgeon, which took less than 30 days. It cost me 0 dollars. The insurance was private, and cost about 160 a month for family. Leave my insurance alone! If you think that this is a good idea, than you have not read the bill. Wait until they start adding pages, last min, and change the bill number so you can't follow what is being done; just like the "crap in trade/carbon tax" bill.
WAKE UP!
bigc028282 2 years ago
I'd like to get on your insurance bigc028282! Sounds great, what private insurance company are you with? I've been uninsured for about 10 years ever since I no longer qualified for my fathers insurance. I actually don't believe you can pay 160 a month and get good healthcare. I'm also one of thousands of students who don't have healthcare.
gedimindtrix 2 years ago
NETWORK HEALTH. The monthly was for my wife and I. There is no distinction between a couple or a family. It is provided by the employer. Co pays are 10 dollars. The company employees a few hundred.
There is so much dis and misinformation about this crap. Check out the Ronald Reagan speech to AARP, on utube. I found it very enlightening. I understand that not having insurance sucks. I hurt my back at about age 24 or so, snowboarding. I had no insurance. 12 yrs later I had it fixed.
bigc028282 2 years ago
ged, your account say's age 34. you have over 1000 videos seen, and 3 questionable saves. It's not a sock account is it? You have only been off your dads insurance for 10 years?
bigc028282 2 years ago
Get off your dead ass, and work. Like the rest of us, you can afford it, if you work.
Rockholm66 2 years ago
wow so much hostility? I think most Americans will work hard if they have the opportunity. Unfortunately the last president and his administration who also happened to be republican did not do such a good job helping to govern and be fiscaly repsponsible so now the us economy has spiraled downward and there are literally less jobs out there for me and other students and regular people to get off our"dead ass" and work for.
gedimindtrix 2 years ago
I don't know if you realize this, but both Houses were controlled by lefticals. They hammered away, day and night about how bad the economy was. Bush was a failure, and so was Congress. Both D's and R's are to blame. I put no faith in any man, telling me how to live my life. Their job is to represent us, and they have failed on every level.
Rockholm66 2 years ago 2
Those crazy people in those town hall meetings are so silly that they have no idea about anything going on, especially health care.
The present health care system is an unjust system that is run by capitalist insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and banks. Banks run everything.
It's so sad that people do not read the fine print when they sign on to insurance. It's so scary.
32 minutes ago · Delete
bal20981 2 years ago
What's really scary is that no one is reading the fine print in HR3300. They just seem to blab and blab about how great it'll be.
I'll tell you what, why don't you send ME your $150 per month for MY version of socialized medicine, and I'll even print you up a nifty little card to go with it. Then, every time you go to a doctor, they can tell you NO...just like they do with socialized medicine.
It's so scary.
dorlockt 2 years ago
Also, all businesses with 25 plus employees will have to pay for their employees insurance or if opting out, then supply them with a check each month in equal amount. Insurance companies will not be allowed to screen for pre-existing conditions, drop individuals from their plan for pre-existing conditions, or even conduct 10 year history searches on people to check for an any number of conditions. It's not universal health care and it's not privatized capitalism either.
bal20981 2 years ago
FYI- We are not going to have universal health care. We are actually going to have a happy medium with both private insurance, medicare, medicaid, and a public option.
bal20981 2 years ago
At 02:53 -
Actually illegal aliens can not get free medical care. And legal immigrants have to wait five years before they can sign up for any coverage what so ever. It's the law. Look it up before you say anything that you have no clue about.
bal20981 2 years ago
Nice "fair and balanced coverage" dickwad. You didn't care to interview those who support healthcare reform in America.
RyanRambachdotcom 2 years ago
That Columbian socialist is an idiot.
RyanRambachdotcom 2 years ago
Did I just see an idiot say "Resistance to democratic tyranny is obedience to God?"
Do you think Jesus would have supported healthcare for the poor in America? Or would he have said, "fuck the poor.?"
RyanRambachdotcom 2 years ago
I doubt Jesus would have used the F bomb. Just a wild guess. ;-)
KarizmaNation 2 years ago
The poor get health care. At least in Texas, they do. The real question is would Jesus support stealing from the rich (i.e. taxing them more just because they are rich and can afford more generating class warfare and greed) and giving to the poor or would he support freely giving of oneself?
freakawill2000 2 years ago
It's time to get the post office out of the private delivery business and save our UPS and Fedex!! I want to be able to choose who sends my packages!! Government is controlling my shipping weight!
praizjesus 2 years ago
Obama is HORRIBLE for this country. The U.S. taxpayer is FUCKING TIRED of paying for health care for illegal aliens and borrowing billions of dollars to give to other countries in charity. WTF? CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME! Stop giving billions to help countries and stop giving health care to illegals. STOP UN MONEY.
Merigoldsforever 2 years ago
OBAMA SUCKS PERIOD!!!
tonytripari 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
ROMNEY'S 2012 PLAN CUTS MEDICARE--Ron Paul’s plan cuts $1 trillion the first year and it balances the budget in 3 years. The plan cuts spending by ending the costly unconstitutional foreign wars, and cuts foreign welfare, corporate welfare, and overgrown federal bureaucracy. These cuts are made so that those who are dependent on domestic spending programs such as Medicare aren’t endangered through a sudden change in benefits. Romney’s plan cuts Medicare, on which many elderly Americans rely.
vechorik 2 months ago
How much are the liberal A-Holes getting paid to post on here? These are real US American citizens against MARXISM and Socialized Tierney!
TheFiddlah 2 years ago
You spelled "Tyranny" wrong, lol.
Great bunch of intellectuals you all are.
BrianTotse 2 years ago
Look the Dems even have the union a**holes logging into youtube to post stupid and idiotic posts like rianfowler & pimplerma. Obama is Marxist who lives by the rules of Saul Alinksi who of course wrote the book "rules for radicals" and dedicated it to Lucifer. Obama is purposely trying to kill people to solve the SS problem.. This is Tierney and We The People need to OUST Obama,Pelosi,Reid,Frank,Shaheen,Porter, progressive M-F*ckers! even if it takes force!
TheFiddlah 2 years ago
RIGHT ON! Thanks for posting this!
debbdi11 2 years ago
It will be single payer - that is their goal! And if it is so great for the American people, why has Congress exempted themselves from participating in it!
libgrimmett 2 years ago
Medicare and Medicade are gov. programs!!
Donnjap444 2 years ago
How much did you get paid to make this video?
rianfowler 2 years ago
I just think these people are uninformed. And are being lied to by republicans.
pimpnlerma 2 years ago
LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHA take a look in the mirror
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
Yes I know even I get lied to by republicans. Yet I am very well informed on the issue of health care re form thank you very much. And if you were too, you'd know that they're making big deals out of nothing at all.
pimpnlerma 2 years ago
Well, you might think your informed, but it sounds like your pretty close minded...and when you just believe what you hear...its called living in an illusion in Philosophy...so maybe you should open your mind a little bit more and realize everything you might believe might not be right. I'm not a Republican..Def not a democrat..because they both work for the same thing (money)..and this is actually a big deal, if you understood the Country you live in, you'd know this is a HUGE deal
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
Ha! well look at us!! I'm not a repub or dem. but I do believe the people in the video are misinformed. I have looked at all the bill and most of what these people are against aren't in the bill in the first place. As far as me living in an illusion maybe.... I'm more of an anarcist who his infavor of The Venus Project. I think that's the only way to go in the future.
pimpnlerma 2 years ago
Well, I've been hearing a lot of truth out there about the bill, idk where you get your truth because obviously its not a good source. The bill is written by the same people (the politicians) who lie on TV and everywhere else...why would they be honest in a written bill they authored? All they have to do is have their rich lawmakers craft the bill to genius terminology with hidden agendas and bore the sheep into accepting it blindly.
ceasey0xoogurl 2 years ago
If universal health care is so great and effecient, then why is France socialized health care is on the brink of running out of money???
As Congress fights over whether America should be more like France, the French government is trying to borrow U.S. tactics.
Obama is making Americans into spoiled children, who want everything for free! Nothing is for free! This will take away our freedom to have the health care we want and need.
subjer0 2 years ago
These people are all just using whatever buzzwords they read in the message that told them to go out and protest that day.
Socialism, rationing, cap & tax, "take it slow", unread bills....
Obviously they are following instructions, and I'm not hearing a lot of reason why the reform should be killed. Plenty of fluffing but no money shot.
usucdik 2 years ago
Um! I read the bill and it limits care for special needs and mentally ill. It also places euthenasia counseling as an option. That is disturbing. Especially with the science czar writing a book on how to systematically limit birth, and the bad genes by sterilizing our water it scary!!
pandabead 2 years ago
NO, it does not limit care for special needs. It limits the ENROLLMENT period to before Jan 1, 2011, to the open enrollment period, or to when the special need is diagnosed.
And NO it does not place euthanasia counseling as an option. It gives patients on medicare the ability to, once every 5 years, obtain the service of getting help educating thmselves about living wills, power of attorneys, DNR forms, and other advance directives that play a VITAL part in helping doctors provide care.
lj4adotcomdan 2 years ago
A living will is something that is very important to have. It instructs the doctor on the wishes of the patient and how they want their care to be taken care of when they are in a condition to not be able to request or deny care directly.
To suggest that the section allowing for free consultations on advance directives is "euthanasia" counseling is just irresponsible.
lj4adotcomdan 2 years ago
I read the legislation. It is obvious that the people in this video did not.
This is not single payer.
The "limitation on enrollment for special needs" limits the enrollment to open enrollment or when a special need is diagnosed (or that they enroll before Jan 1 2011. That is reasonable.
And getting free consultations so that people on medicare can get help with living wills is NOT going to cause them to die early. Having a living will is a GOOD THING and this offers a SERVICE to those ppl
lj4adotcomdan 2 years ago
Did you see the video with Obama saying he was going to dupe the American citizens into thinking it was not single payer but the government plan would slowly put the private insurance out of business. I am angry about it. He has no right!! He is an elected official not a master manipulator.
pandabead 2 years ago 2
Dumb, misinformed, and angry is no way to go through life.
zinovy08 2 years ago
Wow, what a horriable violent mob... This is horrific! Where are the police!?
Wow, why do people get worked up for these? Seems pretty civil to me...
ArkansasItalianBoy 2 years ago
It's unbelievable how dumb tarded americans are.
How easy they are to be manipulated by big corp/politicians.
All anti-healthcare reform BS arguments are right off copy/paste lies from above(lobbiests/politicians) .
It's sad, very sad how people like you, like to be brainwashed and vote against your self-interest.
And they are MOBS, well paid shouting MOBS who have no interest in dialogue, their sole existence is to disrupt dialogue and depict a false image of public opinion.
ProgressiveAction10 2 years ago
ok, smartass why do these protesters know more of whats in the b.s. bill than the STUPID DICTATORS WHO ARE TRYING TO SELL IT AND WILL NOT RECEIVE THE PLAN FOR THEIR OWN FAMILIES, HEALTHCARE IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.
looseyourlife 2 years ago
Really genius. I didn't see anyone wearing any t-shirt designs, but those "healthcare reform" fools from Mass. were certainly wearing them.
Kapan60 2 years ago
What a wild, unruly MOB!!!! LOL, What is wrong with people speaking their minds in America? This is still America isn't it??????
ladylordess 2 years ago
Yeah, we need more choice- but that also means that companies and insurance companies have less say in our health care. How about getting the government AND the companies out of our health care choices? We might as well get both out of those choices.
evanology06 2 years ago 2
Bussing people around the country to make it look like people are ANTI HEALTH CARE?
Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?
Nobody is buying your horseshit.
an OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of people in the US want HEALTH REFORM NOW.
And you idiots who listen to RUSH LIMBAUGH and FAUX NEWS cant do anything to stop it.
DigitalAquarius 2 years ago
You have no idea what's in this bill. you should read it. You also have no idea who Obama works for. He is the Agent of the largest and most sinister mega-corporate monsters and the international banking cartel behind them. He is here to introduce you to a fascist police state with all your food and healthcare and vaccinations mandated and enforced by a UN and WHO/ WTO controlled military force. Thanks to Obama we can say goodbye to personal freedom COMPLETELY.
electricshoulou 2 years ago
Comment removed
electricshoulou 2 years ago
If you're 69 you're on Medicare, which IS socialized medicine.
melora72 2 years ago
Nope. Medicare allows you to choose your doctor if they accept medicare payments which most do.
robm425 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Ron Paul 12
midwestcharm 2 years ago
The so-called "Brooks Brothers Brownshirts" should leave their swastikas at home.
4teepee 2 years ago
Yeah, okay, Nancy Pelosi.
KarizmaNation 2 years ago
These guys are all idiots..on both sides.
GabrielGrewal 2 years ago
Nice star trek font.
GabrielGrewal 2 years ago
dumb asses pure and simple
STEEEVVYZ 2 years ago
Many of these leaders have no clue what our Constitution requires of them nor what to do about it - nor do they have the courage to do what it takes if they did have a clue - and they continue to take the path of destruction for us. Encourage Principled people to take office; those who will stand and deliver; pick leaders among our groups who choose PRINCIPALS over PARTY and encourage them to take office; all levels of government. Principals over Party; People over Party. Lobby Your Neighbors
zeezrom 2 years ago
KICK THE BASTARDS OUT!!!!
oregonmaverick 2 years ago
These people are trying to shutdown all civil debate and discourse concerning health care or anything that's not in corporate financial interests.
This isn't honest exercise of free speech; it is meant to intimidate, disrupt and stop the free speech of others and end an important public dialogue. It is harassment.
The GOP should just replace their symbol of the Elephant with a PLOT OF ASTROTURF.
ProgressiveAction10 2 years ago
Just like the Vietnam War demonstrations the days of civil debate are over. They have accomplished nothing.
Now is the time for massive and violent demonstrations. That works!
njattack 2 years ago
So you just admitted that since the protesters don't have anything to contribute to an intelligent debate, this justifies violence towards those who do.
You are just trying to incite more of these right-wing nut jobs into killing more people. This rabid anti-intellectualism is killing our country.
ProgressiveAction10 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Go blow smoke up your own rear end.
You want to stop the anti-intellectualism that is killing the U.S.? Simply look into a mirror, pull out a 45, then shoot the reflection.
njattack 2 years ago
and I guess all those liberals burning vehicles and protesting and tearing up public property the last republican convention was ok with you right?
you hate the taste of your own medicine, as you liberals always have.
alwaysending 2 years ago 3
You should just replace your head with a donkey's rear. You are a troller who has no facts no reasoning skills!
Truthinmidamerica 2 years ago
AHAHAHA! OMG! Because the leftist liberal democrats NEVER intimidate, disrupt, and stop the free speech of others, right? Oh wait, that's right. Wasn't it that far leftist liberal thug organization the SEIU that beat up a conservative African-American man for selling "Don't Tread On Me" flags (a form of free speech, by the way) outside the town hall meeting in St. Louis? Yup, the democrats NEVER try to intimidate, disrupt, and stop free speech, ProgressiveAction10. Riiiight. Wink. Wink.
KarizmaNation 2 years ago
Protesters:
When you protest the SIGNS must be READABLE. Hand writing signs don't cut it. The goal is for the public to be able to read your signs EASILY.
Tips:
Go to art store to get 2'x3' white, light weight board. $3.
Go to Lowe's, HomeDepot etc and buy 3" reflective stick on letters. $0.49 each.
Evenly put the message on the white art board.
This is what I do and everyone can EASILY read my signs. They don't have to squint.
Make it easy for the public to read your signs.
njattack 2 years ago
Only Obama and his fringe followers at the DNC support socialized medicine.
The American people (Democrats, Republicans, and Independents) are angry about government trying to force socialized medicine on us.
The only thing that Obama and his fellow travelers can do is conduct ad hominen attacks on us. The people aren't buying it.
CastorT64 2 years ago
I love Masshole lady's snotty attitude: we won't talk you because you're not from the State Media (*sniff*).
PalinRepublic 2 years ago
Oooooooooooooooo, they are so scary. I can see why Hodes, Shaheen, and Shea-Porter are so scared to leave their DC offices. I wouldn't want to face this angry rent-a-mob either.
ducatiwayne 2 years ago
Socialism is evil.
KCSteak 2 years ago 4
Yep, that MediCare's some pretty terrible stuff the government did to us. I would rather pay Premiums at the end of my life.
goregoregirly 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
These moronic stooges for the insurance companies make me sick. Useful idiots, instead of participating in debate they regurgitate lines given to them by some conservative think tank. Now the movement of stupid people is on it's own fueled by the ranting o LImbaugh and Hannity. You see the average IQ of a Republican is far lower, and the chance of a Republican being a racist is far higher. Any Republican must admit that their party is full of dumb racists. That is why the party will soon die.
Wingnutspankah 2 years ago
Some much irony in one post. Thanks for the laugh.
SoHumorous 2 years ago
Hah, Obama will not take it from the people he is being exposed and American is better than your country and always will be.
Bskiz1978 2 years ago
You Americans don't deserve choice in health care---I will laugh when Obama takes it away.
finiallytalking 2 years ago
I really like the Marine from Colombia. He knows what socialism is like.
mlhampton13 2 years ago
He gets TRICARE and a lot of perks for being a vet. And someone said TRICARE sucked. He'd be better off with a public option. So basically he doesn't even know he's ot doing himself a favor here.
radoraf 2 years ago
Thank you for this video. More real Americans out there...definitely not astroturf.
USAheartland 2 years ago 3
Thank you, nhlimited, for taking the time to produce this video. Without it, we would never know about the rally in Hampstead. The crowd doesn't appear to be paid, bussed-in, professional disruptors. Ha. Ha.
It's great to see that Ammericans have woken to the Democrat's madlong dash to strip our freedom.
The Democrats are in a mad rush to pass this bill to keep the people from discussing it and becoming more informed. An informed American is their biggest nightmare.
AUTigerAlum83 2 years ago
Whether you are for or against obamacare, you gotta love this! Keep it up man, I wish more people recorded the town hall meetings (BOTH SIDES!)
Lets get some REAL dialog going. The more people talking about this, the more people that get involved, the better off everyone will be.
rookshunter 2 years ago