Social Anarchism vs. the Free Market (Part 1 of 2)

[02Blackbeard]

Anarchist wins on the ethical front hands down.

[JoeKopsick4Congress]

@02Blackbeard

Most self-described left-anarchists (except many of those influenced by Kropotkin, Bookchin, and the Mutualists) are unaware that they support the use of force to push for an objective ethics. Free market anarchism is ethical too, because it doesn't embrace the principle that people should be forced to do what others think is ethical.

[02Blackbeard]

@JoeKopsick4Congress Yes but force comes in many guises. I don't have to put your arm up your back in order to put pressure on you to conform to my will. In any society miscreants are going to have to be forced to desist from certain courses of action.

Also, it is not a euestion of private property versus no private property. It's a question of what is admissable as private property.

Also,

[JoeKopsick4Congress]

@02Blackbeard

The many ways of pursuing ethics without coercion include private enterprise, solidarity unionism, religious and charity organizations, and legitimate governance based on contract rights, especially when coupled with subsidiarity / diffusion of decision-making authority to localities.

[02Blackbeard]

@JoeKopsick4Congress Is an anarchist society realizable? If anarchism demands voluntary co-operation then I think it a good guess that there will always be those who want to uphold the status quo of Statism and Establishment. So anarchists will be involved in an "eternal" struggle.

[JoeKopsick4Congress]

@02Blackbeard

Not only is an anarchist society realizable, but it exists all around us; some of us just have to be trained to notice it. We just have to understand that the extent to which our society is voluntary - and in whatever realms that voluntaryism exists - exists a dynamic, evolving order, and that all Statism and corruption (and to some extent intimidation and manipulation) are illegitimate criminal enterprises, and should be dealt with as a criminal justice issue.

[02Blackbeard]

@JoeKopsick4Congress What I meant was an Anarchist UTOPIA. Yes, I agree with you. As far as I can see Anarchy is the Foundational and Natural state of things. The State is a superimposition.

The criminal "justice" (not) system is part of the Establishment/State system. So, I'm not sure what you mean by your last words. ???

[JoeKopsick4Congress]

@02Blackbeard

I mean that we can have a criminal justice system which is out of the control of the Statist system. My vision of an anarchist utopia is a society in which decision-making power is as widely diffused as possible, nobody's person, tangible property, or personal liberties are harmed,

[02Blackbeard]

@JoeKopsick4Congress So how do you see the State coming to an end.

[JoeKopsick4Congress]

@02Blackbeard

Immediate, abrupt, revolutionary tactics would involve self-defense against the State, which would be perceived by most as aggressive violence.

Gradual, reformist tactics would involve the citizens of each state bringing charges against them, compelling their courts to choose whether the Statutes of Frauds that require that contracts to provide services (in this case, government services) violate the states' constitutional provisions requiring secret-ballot voting.

[JoeKopsick4Congress]

@02Blackbeard

and people are free to debate the ethical bases of legitimate government, and negotiate contract rights and what is admissible property,

at a time when artificial scarcity is so low that a distribution of all goods necessary to sustain life would be practical and possible.