btw, did the western allies had a similiar "PaK/Flak"? PaK = Panzerabwehrkanone, anti-tank gun. I think the IS-Series (IS, IS-2 and the IS-3 that was produced far to late, I think the first one was ready in May 1945 and it needs 2-3 month for the front.
@GrenadierBiermann There were some things which the Nazis really wanted to show in the "Deutsche Wochenschau" (weekly news in cinema) to show the wonder weapon... There's a 1944 Wochenschau showing a starting V2, but filmed from a very long distance, but you see that its damn fast.. The speaker says that they don't show it exactly because of espionage and the top secret-status of the german high-tech weapons and that the "Vergeltungsfeuer" (revenge fire) on London is going on.
"Your" eighty eight is a mistake in the english language. Maybe it's called eighty-eight in english, but in german it's called Flugabwehrkanone 8,8 18/36/17 (Flak 8,8)
@HARIZKANE97 True, but they did use 88mm gun for coastal defense against allies. It's called Type 99 88mm AA gun, based on the captured units from Chinese National Revolutionary Army which were imported from Germany.
Speaking of kamikaze, they would have regardless. They never had enough guns or steady supplies of munition rounds throughout the war.
Wenn man sich die Geschichte mal n bissl genauer ansieht, dann ist es schon eine Auszeichnung für die AchtAcht, wenn man mal sieht, wie oft ein einzelnes Geschütz während eines Abwehrgefechts zum Dreh und Angelpunkt einer ganzen Divison werden konnte, quasi eine Insel im Höllenmeer, um das sich die zurückfltuenden SOldaten versammelten weil sie wussten, wenn überhaupt einer dem Gegner noch ein paar Minuten Einhalt gebieten kann, dann die AchtAcht.
What I LOVE about the 88 is that if you had a very large stock of ammo and a well-trained crew you could knock out many more enemy tanks than a regular tank- due to having in effect the SAME optics scope AND no ammo storage constrictions!
@spritz0 hmm. picture this. a well-trained crew of 9, a shitload of tungsten core HV shells, good positioning and well-camouflaged..... and a horde of enemy tanks appear. doesn't matter if they're Yanks, Reds, or Britischer. doesn't it? XD
@FilipinoZeroFighter This is my new user name- I had to re-register (formerly spritz0) and I agree with what you said, the gun fires so fast & accurate you'd OWN the battlefield.
@TheSpritz0 that's why the Yanks call it "infamous". it was so deadly. heck, even now it even may have a place in an army fighting against even the M1A1 or T-90. keyword being, "maybe".
@FilipinoZeroFighter I think (with my limited 7.5 years in the Airborne) the rounds would have to be depleted Uranium in order to penetrate either tank. It's a whole new ballgame now, 120mm-plus being the very minimum.
@TheSpritz0 true.... it's still interesting though, to shoehorn a flak 88 to fire "magnum" rounds with depleted U shells. I still think it MIGHT be useful today, as a "light" anti tank gun, given its immense penetrating power,.
@FilipinoZeroFighter I fought at the Battle of Medak Pocket, so I've seen a similar-caliber man-portable recoiless rifle (Carl Gustaf) take out T-60's & BMP's. This is an 84mm round with a "shaped-charge" head a-la-RPG! I know the 88 would still take out a T-60 as long as it is a Tungsten or D.U. round, the thing I'm worried about is the M1A1 Abrahms, I really don't know what to do with them except VERY large mines!!!
@TheSpritz0 indeed. it has steeply-sloping armor (is it reactive?) and most projectiles would have a hard time piercing it. hmm.. somehow if it was immobilized by determined infantry, perhaps grenades or good old-fashioned molotovs chucked into the engine intake might do the trick. "if a direct approach isnt possible try going around it" a saying i live by with chess games.
@FilipinoZeroFighter I believe it would take a multi-pronged approach, and possibly expect a few losses- I don't like it's rapid-firing internal MG, to difficult to avoid re: it's turret turns SO fast hydraulically it's actually impossible to outrun it and get cover, unlike other not-so advanced tanks! A massive camouflaged anti-tank ditch, multiple RPG-34's and 2 or 3 large IED's might help.....
@TheSpritz0 i see. it IS a good tank, no matter what they say. yet as with all tanks i think it's better off avoiding conditions that will negate its hydraulic-operated turret.
@TheSpritz0 The very minimum would be 105mm round... and it would have to hit the armor a lot to do any serious damage... which usually don't happen as most tanks with modern sensors tend to shoot back. Any WWII tanks or weapon systems are done for after being shot by 120mm depleted Uranium round.
@spritz0 Nice "knock out many more tanks"-theory... but movement? This only worked in great formations, together with armoured vehicles, infantry and air sovereignity or support, with scout and fighter planes..
The defensive use of the weapon since 1943 was a big advantage for the Nazis, because so the shortage of trucks and gasoline wasn't that fatal. See Ardennes Offensive, where SS-Tanks had no more gas; US troops copied scorched earth and destroyed their own gas while withdrawing.
@KilonBerlin that was the whole basis of my theory, STATIC warfare defending a sector against mass Soviet human-wave armored assaults. Of course the Germans also had mobile 88's as well in a variety of mounts.
WehrmAcht-Acht
ugowar 2 weeks ago
BOOM BOOM the 88 was BOOM BOOM BOOM the reputation with BOOM notorious BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM mounntian of this wea.. BOOM BOOM tiger 1 BOOM ...er 2 tanks BOOM BOOM gurreing BOOM BOOM no fighter BOOM BOOM ...rich.
blublahblah 3 weeks ago 4
i love this sound boom booM boOM bOOM BOOM!
MrThePsychologist 3 weeks ago
A huge shell with tremendous velocity that could be fired well behind the lines and into a pickle barrel.
It was engineering genius.
mrceebees14 1 month ago
What a disappointment were the US bombers to let 'no less than 102 K German troops pass up the Italian peninsula in August 1943'
kikusiakikusia 3 months ago
btw, did the western allies had a similiar "PaK/Flak"? PaK = Panzerabwehrkanone, anti-tank gun. I think the IS-Series (IS, IS-2 and the IS-3 that was produced far to late, I think the first one was ready in May 1945 and it needs 2-3 month for the front.
KilonBerlin 3 months ago
@GrenadierBiermann There were some things which the Nazis really wanted to show in the "Deutsche Wochenschau" (weekly news in cinema) to show the wonder weapon... There's a 1944 Wochenschau showing a starting V2, but filmed from a very long distance, but you see that its damn fast.. The speaker says that they don't show it exactly because of espionage and the top secret-status of the german high-tech weapons and that the "Vergeltungsfeuer" (revenge fire) on London is going on.
KilonBerlin 3 months ago
4:44 - 4:52 EPIC
DarkBlitzkrieg46 3 months ago
who plays call of duty and hear them screaming out 88s!!!!!
FLAMEZ53 4 months ago
@ryuuzaki1939 I'm sure Hitler was proud of the Flak 88
victinhoemn 4 months ago
@ElianM1 Thank you my friend...
TheSpritz0 6 months ago
@ryuuzaki1939 why should be hitler dislike ? the flak88 was german,best anti tank piece ever in ww2,why would u say that then?
SkadTheReaper 7 months ago
my dad shout it ... great!!!
petjaveliki 7 months ago
if the 88 had a silencer they would have won
PEDROCLASSIC 7 months ago
@PEDROCLASSIC ok that comment was just dumb
Brian79camino 7 months ago
2:42 o0 look at the rings! woow
mbtfp 7 months ago
you got one of FlaK 88, you can knock out few tanks
you got ten of FlaK 88, you can stop enemy offensive
you got hundred of FlaK 88, you can defend a country
you got thousand of FlaK 88, you can win the war
chingsumcheung 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
it's name is eight-eight, not eighty eight!
So write FlaK 8.8 or FlaK 8 8
But it's a great video
MrSovjetunion 8 months ago
it's name is eight-eight, not eighty eight!
So write FlaK 8.8 or FlaK 8 8
MrSovjetunion 8 months ago
@MrSovjetunion 88MM or 8.8CM
size123 7 months ago
@size123
8.8 cm, It was a big and heavy gun
MrSovjetunion 7 months ago
@MrSovjetunion
It's eighty eight, not eight-eight.
Flugabwehrkanone Achtundachtzig
Antiaircraft gun Eightyeight
h4mmers3x 7 months ago
@h4mmers3x
No, it is called eight eight.
"Your" eighty eight is a mistake in the english language. Maybe it's called eighty-eight in english, but in german it's called Flugabwehrkanone 8,8 18/36/17 (Flak 8,8)
MrSovjetunion 7 months ago
@MrSovjetunion
Well, I am german and my grandfather is a War veteran from World War 2 and I can tell you that its eighty-eight.
h4mmers3x 7 months ago
@h4mmers3x
Oh, dann können wir ja Deutsch reden.
Hast du mal einen Blick in die deutschsprachige Wikipedia unter Flak 88 geworfen? Lied dir mal den ersten Satz durch ;-)
MrSovjetunion 7 months ago
@MrSovjetunion
Im Grunde ist es egal, wie du sie nennst. Die 88 steht ja nur für die Geschossgröße, sprich 88mm bzw 8,8cm.
Also kannst du sagen 88,8,8, Acht Acht oder wie auch immer. Ich bevorzuge jedoch 88 ausgeprochen ; geht mir besser von den Lippen ;)
h4mmers3x 7 months ago
WOW did you see the hit marks of the gun at 2:42 I counted at least 14 rings around the barrel! They added such rings for each destroyed tank.
ThePerfectRed 8 months ago
The two dislikes come from Stalin and Churchill
luvrboog 8 months ago
@ryuuzaki1939 Are you stupid? This was Hitler's god damn right hand!
kyoko277 9 months ago
Flak 36 88 mm AA/AT
nono3711 11 months ago
Great commentary, extremely interesting. Unfortunately in large part lost due to background firing noises, and shitty sound mixing. A pity really.
OSeamus61 11 months ago 2
The Japanese during WW2 does not use this gun.
I cannot imagine if they used that gun and there is no kamikazes...
HARIZKANE97 1 year ago
@HARIZKANE97 True, but they did use 88mm gun for coastal defense against allies. It's called Type 99 88mm AA gun, based on the captured units from Chinese National Revolutionary Army which were imported from Germany.
Speaking of kamikaze, they would have regardless. They never had enough guns or steady supplies of munition rounds throughout the war.
pekau 1 year ago
Deutscher Stahl ;D
Deutsche Waffentechnik war schon immer vom allerfeinsten :-)
Wenn Deutschland nicht den Zweifrontenkrieg/ bzw Dreifrontenkrieg gehabt hätte wäre uns der Sieg sicher gewesen !
Es lebe Deutschland !
Usbxxx 1 year ago
omg that is firetrucking lagendary..that was fast reloader lol 0:05
SchneiderVesperine 1 year ago 2
Wenn man sich die Geschichte mal n bissl genauer ansieht, dann ist es schon eine Auszeichnung für die AchtAcht, wenn man mal sieht, wie oft ein einzelnes Geschütz während eines Abwehrgefechts zum Dreh und Angelpunkt einer ganzen Divison werden konnte, quasi eine Insel im Höllenmeer, um das sich die zurückfltuenden SOldaten versammelten weil sie wussten, wenn überhaupt einer dem Gegner noch ein paar Minuten Einhalt gebieten kann, dann die AchtAcht.
Einer der ganz großen Würfe der Waffentechnik!
Lusth0g 1 year ago
I want to shoot my school with one of these
monkeynuts76 1 year ago 3
@monkeynuts76
Boy, don't say that.
Bmxer00002003 1 year ago
@Bmxer00002003 Don't worry, he's probably already being detained.
zombiehunter96 1 year ago
5:40 poor tank
MultiVirus27 1 year ago
Does anybody know what show this video is from?
Maduce560 2 years ago
Great kanone.............
Icemanmi 2 years ago
Fantastic Gun!!! Würde mal so eien Flakbatterie mit 8,8ern im IEnsatz sehen (damit man mal eine Vorstellung bekommt, was da überhaupt abgeht)...
Hanomag1996 2 years ago 3
What I LOVE about the 88 is that if you had a very large stock of ammo and a well-trained crew you could knock out many more enemy tanks than a regular tank- due to having in effect the SAME optics scope AND no ammo storage constrictions!
spritz0 2 years ago 31
@spritz0 hmm. picture this. a well-trained crew of 9, a shitload of tungsten core HV shells, good positioning and well-camouflaged..... and a horde of enemy tanks appear. doesn't matter if they're Yanks, Reds, or Britischer. doesn't it? XD
FilipinoZeroFighter 1 year ago
@FilipinoZeroFighter This is my new user name- I had to re-register (formerly spritz0) and I agree with what you said, the gun fires so fast & accurate you'd OWN the battlefield.
TheSpritz0 1 year ago
@TheSpritz0 that's why the Yanks call it "infamous". it was so deadly. heck, even now it even may have a place in an army fighting against even the M1A1 or T-90. keyword being, "maybe".
FilipinoZeroFighter 1 year ago
@FilipinoZeroFighter I think (with my limited 7.5 years in the Airborne) the rounds would have to be depleted Uranium in order to penetrate either tank. It's a whole new ballgame now, 120mm-plus being the very minimum.
TheSpritz0 1 year ago
@TheSpritz0 true.... it's still interesting though, to shoehorn a flak 88 to fire "magnum" rounds with depleted U shells. I still think it MIGHT be useful today, as a "light" anti tank gun, given its immense penetrating power,.
FilipinoZeroFighter 1 year ago
@FilipinoZeroFighter I fought at the Battle of Medak Pocket, so I've seen a similar-caliber man-portable recoiless rifle (Carl Gustaf) take out T-60's & BMP's. This is an 84mm round with a "shaped-charge" head a-la-RPG! I know the 88 would still take out a T-60 as long as it is a Tungsten or D.U. round, the thing I'm worried about is the M1A1 Abrahms, I really don't know what to do with them except VERY large mines!!!
TheSpritz0 1 year ago
@TheSpritz0 indeed. it has steeply-sloping armor (is it reactive?) and most projectiles would have a hard time piercing it. hmm.. somehow if it was immobilized by determined infantry, perhaps grenades or good old-fashioned molotovs chucked into the engine intake might do the trick. "if a direct approach isnt possible try going around it" a saying i live by with chess games.
FilipinoZeroFighter 1 year ago
@FilipinoZeroFighter I believe it would take a multi-pronged approach, and possibly expect a few losses- I don't like it's rapid-firing internal MG, to difficult to avoid re: it's turret turns SO fast hydraulically it's actually impossible to outrun it and get cover, unlike other not-so advanced tanks! A massive camouflaged anti-tank ditch, multiple RPG-34's and 2 or 3 large IED's might help.....
TheSpritz0 1 year ago
@TheSpritz0 i see. it IS a good tank, no matter what they say. yet as with all tanks i think it's better off avoiding conditions that will negate its hydraulic-operated turret.
FilipinoZeroFighter 1 year ago
@FilipinoZeroFighter and that aspect is its real danger to attacking infantry as well...
TheSpritz0 1 year ago
@TheSpritz0 The very minimum would be 105mm round... and it would have to hit the armor a lot to do any serious damage... which usually don't happen as most tanks with modern sensors tend to shoot back. Any WWII tanks or weapon systems are done for after being shot by 120mm depleted Uranium round.
pekau 1 year ago
@pekau agreed for the most part: some tanks these days incorporate complicated reactive armor plates as well.
TheSpritz0 1 year ago
@spritz0 but it was not able to move
JUminator94 8 months ago
@JUminator94 to move, you just had to have a half-track a block away (hidden, or camouflaged preferably...).
TheSpritz0 8 months ago
@JUminator94
just put it on a lorry to move it
MrSovjetunion 8 months ago
@spritz0 Nice "knock out many more tanks"-theory... but movement? This only worked in great formations, together with armoured vehicles, infantry and air sovereignity or support, with scout and fighter planes..
The defensive use of the weapon since 1943 was a big advantage for the Nazis, because so the shortage of trucks and gasoline wasn't that fatal. See Ardennes Offensive, where SS-Tanks had no more gas; US troops copied scorched earth and destroyed their own gas while withdrawing.
KilonBerlin 3 months ago
@KilonBerlin that was the whole basis of my theory, STATIC warfare defending a sector against mass Soviet human-wave armored assaults. Of course the Germans also had mobile 88's as well in a variety of mounts.
TheSpritz0 3 months ago