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  • Miles Davis and Ernest Hemingway. Great statements made with the fewest possible notes and words.

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  • Miles Davis is a genius...this guy is a genius...he has Prince dead on.

  • @miamiorlando1 He's definitely a genius, it's just what he's done with that genius is what is a shame to me, getting into fusion and that later period chaos. As an example, when you hear a later period Louis Armstrong, his sound just had so much more depth to it, Miles had such a beautiful thing going, then just felt like he turn a bad bad turn. Shit he was playing in the 80's was almost laughable.

  • @TheAngeltoDemon Odd, I consider Bitches Brew, On the Corner and Dark Magus among his best works.

  • @Loudbottom You, like everyone is absolutely entitled to your opinion. Music is so difficult to opine on unless it's blatantly bad. Like the greats have always said however, there's only two kinds of music, good and bad. If it's good for you, great, just the polar opposite of my thinking. Youtube counts seem to indicate however that you are in the minority as his music from his earlier years is far more viewed. But there is no denying his contributions and his genius, at least he went for it.

  • if miles davis is discussing you on film, you've officially made it.

  • @AceAlive2 I was thinking along the same lines.  It's well known that Prince greatly admires Miles Davis and when those you admire admire you and consider your work seriously, you have, indeed, made it.

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  • Rest in peace, master

  • OK...I love Miles Davis as much as the next guy but leaving out Little Richard.

    Even Stevie Wonder could have seen that!

    Heck, Prince basically ripped of Little Richard...and stole his look

  • @PraxisQuiCho you are right, but i think miles encapsulated more than just a surface 'look' when he likened prince to one of these artists.

  • @PraxisQuiCho Sweetie during little Richards time a lot of black singers had that look. Not just Little Richard.

  • To be spoken of so positively by Miles Davis is the highest of honors.

  • Prince is VERY underrated!!!!!!!

  • @darkadaberry What a nonsensical thing to say. Everybody knows Prince is a genius. He's "rated" just about right.

  • Miles was speaking about Prince AT THAT TIME, within the context of the work he had done until then... so Miles is validating Prince THEN.

    .::g

  • @wendileona yeah, but at least Prince is still better than the pop shit lying around today.

  • @rodcrippler Nope. He's on par.

  • TO TEZ MÓJ TATO,STASZKU-WYBACZ..........C­ÓRKA

  • Miles looks an insane man.

  • SPEAK UP! 

  • Prince combines everything he likes in music and adds his own magic.

  • Prince LOOKS like Charlie Chaplin, his funk is like James Brown, he plays his guitar with a Jimi Hendrix style, and he sings his falsetto parts high like Marivn Gaye.... Spot on.

  • @gblueslover2 I think he has a bit of the Robert Plant performance too, that's what Miles missed.

  • Cocaine is a powerful drug.

  • He's of his head on coke, look at his face

  • I would buy a record of Miles Davis talking.

  • @JazzyJonas straight up!

  • @JazzyJonas Shit! me too :PP

  • I would buy a record of Miles Davis talking.

  • Prince want Jimmi he was Carlos Santana... even Prince says that was his influence

  • Prince should be very glad to have Miles discussing his schtik....what an honour....

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    I'm not selling anything…I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.

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  • prince is of course original: even new music is "derivative' and artist are at liberty

    to echo their influences BTW " Forever in my life" is an echo of Sly's "Everyday people"

    I wonder if Prince even knows?

  • Legendary Man...

  • The Beatles were a combination of Buddy Holly, the Everly Brothers, Dylan, and LSD, so everyone is the sum of their influences.

  • @RollingOrmond The Beatles were the influence of Little Richard and numerous soul & blues singers.

  • @cooliegee You mean "influenced BY" (which they watered down into whitebread pop).

  • @RollingOrmond ...if you mean with "whitebread pop" easy listening popular music for the mass you're right. Jazz of the end of '60 -last acoustic Miles ensemble and maybe Coltrane- is of the same inportance of J.S.Bach or Mozart and Chopin. bye and sry my sub-normal engl. italy medioevo here :))

  • @RollingOrmond Yes, thank you "influenced by" many rhythm & blues singers. No attack on The Beatles or Elvis just telling it like they said from their own mouths.

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  • @markmarktarmann Why am I engaging in a conversation about the Beatles when the post is about Prince & Miles Davis. I like the Beatles just like I like Elvis, but to make them the ultimate hierarchy in music is not what will come out of my mouth.

  • @cooliegee somebody said something about the beatles earlier r&b influenced style degenerating into "whitebread pop" i guess it wasnt you. i just just couldnt let that one stand, as "rasberry beret"(to correct my earlier error) is so obviously Prince's take on the Beatles later style. he wouldn't have written that song if he hadn't listened to (and liked) a lot of beatles. and it is connected. miles left out influence number 4 which no songwriter today can deny, (except REM apparently)

  • @RollingOrmond" rasberry beret".essentially a beatle song written and sung by prince. guess he didnt consider them whitebread. he must have listened to them and like them a lot to have done that "tribute".

  • @markmarktarmann The cellos were Beatles-influenced but the rest was funky in a way the cutesy Beatles could never be.

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  • @RollingOrmond agreed.w/o the phase effected string part i never would have made the connect. to the beatles. but you just have to hate them i guess."cutesy&whitebread" are terms i never heard applied to them."funky"? funky is parliament. "rasberry beret" is just a straight up rock song and beat with prince's typically hyper quasi sexy (and cutesy) growls & squeaks on top. not any funkier than"come together", & they weren't even trying to be funky.funk didn't exist when they were coming up,

  • @markmarktarmann Sure it did, there was black soul music that you could dance to like Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, Marvin Gaye, Martha Reeves, etc. - the Beatles never had that dance quality to their music. You can't dance to Come Together. You sure as hell can to Raspberry Beret.

    Listen to the Beatles from '63-'65. Songs like From Me To You, Hold My Hand, and Thank You Girl are the defintion of cutesy and whitebread. Their happy, smiley boyband years.

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  • @RollingOrmond people did the frug the jerk the twist to motown and the beatles. i'm familiar with early beatles. i saw the 1st ed sullivan appearance live i wore out the 2nd album. there was never anything whitebread or cutesy about their music, fresh original feel good. tight harmonies a seasoned rckabilly/club band when they were barely 21what do you want from 21 year olds? they wrote love songs. 3 years later they were philospher/lyricists "boyband"? 4 cute guys.not the monkees or BakStBoyz

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  • @markmarktarmann Motown was not black sugar pop for the burbs, but the Beatles watered down any black music that crossed their path with their cute harmonies, tinny guitars, and mild Ringo beat, so that's that.

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  • @markmarktarmann You're afraid of black dance music. We get it. Goodbye.

  • @RollingOrmond nah dude nice try at flip & dismissive. is that all you do?.you don't know me. i wuz dancing to sly and JB when i wuz 16 and fresh outa the whitebread burbs. they backed up cuz they feared MY moves. long before justin timberlake. motown is the music old casuals musicians like me, and my younger colleagues too, dread the most.fucking boring bullshit. "oh man, can't we do some chaka kahn or JB or EWF (or Prince) or ANYTHING else".

  • @markmarktarmann Your shortbus has arrived.

  • @RollingOrmond that was good. "maahhhmmmmee i miss the busss oh noooooohhh."

  • @markmarktarmann Please stop typing.

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  • @NewWorldRob... he's a lover." And when discussing how he would urge Michael not to stay up till all hours during the "This Is It" rehearsals, producer Kenny Ortega recalled Mj saying that that is when the good ideas come & he HAD to stay up, or else "God will give the ideas to Prince." (MJ is so sweet). Prince is lyrically imaginative and his vocals are masterful - "God", "Solo" "Let's Have a Baby" - beyond! He has my artistic respect.  I adore him. But it is Michael that I L.O.V.E. <3

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  • Four things huh? Hmm... XD

  • @gavit64 1. James Brown 2.Jimi Hendrix 3.Marvin Gaye 4.Charlie Chaplin - Cut him a break, he was older.

  • Wow the eighties was a terrible time for fashion ;-)

  • Miles Davis is the shit. and prince is awesome as far as songs, but is it the best compliment to say of an artist, he or she offers a bunch of things the world has already seen? Hmmm...

    "everybody wants to sell what's already been sold" Nice prince, that's an under statement. and at this pt, is that even your own line...

    cool artist, prince is. But his influx of praise lately is misguided. especially in its hostility towards michael jackson and madonna. prince is less than they're making him.

  • LOL best diss ever

  • Hey forgot Little Richard...

  • @sikhayar yea exactly. and les not forget where he got some of his allegedly trademark vocal exercises from, DAVID BOWIE.

  • he is so awesomely musically philisophical.

  • Great to know there was a mutual appreciation between Miles & Prince.

  • Miles loved Prince (and vice versa). He talked about Prince a lot in his book, and several interviews and covered some of his songs. And he is not the only one. Several great popular artists praised Prince, or are fans, or even influenced by him. Some examples: Jeff Beck, Marcus Miller, Meshell Ndegeocello, Steve Vai, Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Santana, Robert Plant, Brian May, Eric Clapton, Herbie, etc

  • didnt know miles had such name dropping skills

  • Very smart Man.

  • keep talkin man dont stop

  • Miles, I can't see Charlie Chaplin in Prince, but ok...

  • @zeroinfinit go watch under the cherry moon movie , or any of his shows in the 80s, especially parade tour in 86.

  • @zeroinfinit Parade/Under The Cherry Moon

  • he is speaking about things that he like, Prince and many others like J hendrix or james brown... and him too... it is the spirit, the same spirit...

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  • Wow, I just witnessed one whole minute of DAMN SMART from Miles Davis.

  • If you listen to what miles is saying it seems he is talking about how Prince puts on a show and not about the actual music as much.

  • Miles is right...and Prince would be the first to admit it. Though Prince would probably make the point that his main influence as a lead guitarist was and still is Carlos Santana and Sly Stone is definitely there too. Prince has always been open about his influences and where he gets his inspiration from...I think Miles really didn't listen to Prince's entire catalog, otherwise he would have mentioned many other influences; but he is right in the main-and I say again, Prince would humbly agree

  • three things miles.... three things. just cause you're looking at four fingers

  • @teetomthomas HA HA HA HA HA HA , It got me confused too

  • I admit that IM so hooked on his first 15 years of career,I can never get tired of those songs theres truly magic that I dont pay any attention to his latest albums.The very last I listened was musicology and it was nice a come back to oldshcool prince but still not at the 80s level.He did some SERIUS music,I mean purple rain can be in the top5 albums all time anyway you look at it,masterpieeces.I highly odubt he can be as creative every artist has a peak.Love to see him tour tho

  • I see a lot of little richard in Prince too..and I say A LOT

  • don't get worked up over people who say that he copied other artists, the people who say this don't know anything about Prince.

    Please, take it from me, who was once a prime example ;)

  • This is just so true! I have been thinking the exact same thing about the comparison with Chaplin and Hendrix when I saw him live in Copenhagen last week.

  • Miles you forgot Carlos Santana.

    Santana influenced him a lot.

  • I don't know if you ever had the pleasure of reading Miles Davis autobiography (written with Quincy Troupe)

    If not, you can purchase it from Amazon:

    Miles: The Autobiography [Paperback]

    Miles mentions Prince influence on his music Several times in the book (pages 79, 290, 384-386,394,400,408, 412 & MORE)

    This is one of my FAVORITE books..I'm rereading it RIGHT NOW>

  • OH Miles, u forgot SLY STONE. 

  • Mais... avec le fromage..... SHUGGIE OTIS BOOTIE COOLER, il faut du vin rouge.

  • that was only 3 things miles. 3 fingers = 3 influences not 4. maybe he had charlie chaplin in the back of his mind as the fourth but couldn't remember it at that stage in the interview. but when you're as cool as miles davis you can say whatever the fuck you want

  • Miles missed out Sly Stone and Larry Graham (Sly & The Family Stone), and Joni Mitchell, but he was right on point to recognise the influence of Jimi and James in Prince's musical DNA. And there's definitely some Marvin, but its not as obvious as some of his other influences.

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  • Would b nice if Prince discussed Miles Davis. Marcus Miller has talked in length about Miles, he was a legend. Gotta remember the Greats in order to appreciate the contemporaries. Miles play homage to James Brown, Prince should give Miles a nod.

  • @sherides4mother Prince is not into discussing music much, but he already paid tribute to Miles some times. He even wrote an instrumental song called ´Letter 4 Miles´ after Miles died, but it wasnt released.

  • This is awesome. Poor Miles, a little burnt by this point...

  • His counting is coming along nicely :)

  • Not mathemation i see !

  • @FlashmoreGash You guys are mean! LOLOL

  • Prince is just as cool now exploring many kind of genres of music like he did in the past but he of course does not get the recognition because people still look at his 80's work. But us true fans know what he can do and i am sure Miles Davis is looking down from heaven and saying WTF has happened to real music over the last 15 years and damn only my man Prince is still making excellent music

  • @slystone19 Noooo no no. Okay, I'll go along "heaven" - Miles is looking down at Prince and saying "What.. (while chewing gum in heaven) the fuck happened to Prince? Motherfucker met Larry, left the support money of a major, but all that ruined your shit man! I wish I would of been around to drop kick Larry out of the way motherff."... in that raspy voice and look of disgust in his eyes, you know Miles.

  • Miles was speaking about Prince in THAT TIME. Upto that point in the late 80's, Prince was on fire, just an amazing, innovative, genius of pop rock with so many influences.

    I have a strong feeling that if Miles spoke about Prince today, he'd be like what the fuck happened? Miles' be all disappointed… chewing gum and looking into the distance with a WTF look on his face bewildered at the crap Prince has been doing for the last 15.

  • Prince though, did have a lot of influences and things he would lift directly from but his fans were and are to an extent STILL myopically hypnotized on Prince and lack musical exploration and knowledge.

    I know of one performance, a video where Prince directly lifted a Chick Corea Rhodes passage off a pivotal Miles Davis song as a horn line… mention this to ANY Prince fan, from general-surface-Purple Rain fans to hardcore-praise-anything-yes "fams" and they twist their heads like puppy dogs.

  • @wendileona man, unless the artist grew up on an island and was raised by a pack of wolves (are there wolves on islands?) then EVERY artist was influenced by other artists. Michael took from Astair and James Brown. and Lil Richard took from Fats Domino, Ray Charles, and gospel singers. Prince hasn't had a real top ten hit in 15 years and Purple Rain was, 27 years ago. You should give fans of Prince a little more credit. There are very few "puppies" left among his fans.

  • Charlie Chaplin... c'est ce qui m'est venu à l'esprit quand j'ai vu Prince pour la première fois, il y a 28 ans.

  • Legend speaking right there. About another legend.

  • @blakmagik4 mmh... Legendary genius about another one-Hendrix and a great musician-Prince, really great-maybe a genius-but sure not a Legend. I think Miles & Jimi are among Bach and Parker,they change music conception, Prince no and I listen to him driving,cool. bye all

  • peck played enough nasty, weak, and ho-hum away from atticus finch, can't see him as the the noble pride poitier's most associated with. he also had close shadings with gary cooper, randolph scott, joel mccrea, tyrone power in the vacant heartthrob days...was poitier ever lacking substance? charlie's a dreg, no sex to provoke jokes like prince...

  • @edmame  tho both liked 'em young in similar looks...lol

  • he forgot to mention Prince's most clear influence: Sly Stone..

  • @casparwijn Yes, Prince's influences were Sly AND The Family Stone - Larry "Prince Jehovah Witness-converting" Graham was also a big influence with the GH Central Station. Others are S. Wonder, Al Green, Bill Withers, G. Clinton heck even Mick Jagger and Paul Stanley in stage physicality. Not only Little Richards singing but Richard's late 60's outfits, stage mannerisms, lifted straight off, stitch by stitch, from hair to mustache to bracelet, I kid you not. So partly influenced, part steal.

  • @wendileona... aha.. so what about .. Hendrix? did anyone mention James Brown? Earth wind and fire? I've got nothing against Prince. even consider myself somewhat of a fan. but originality (in my pint of view) is not Prince's strongest side. I think we can even consider prince to be one of the first "modern" artists. As in: he looks at music history and mimics what he likes best..pick and choose form the best and become a master of eclectisism. in that sense he is a real post modernist. right?

  • @casparwijn he created his own sound and writes 99.9 percent of his music, thats orignal enough. He has his own style despite his influences.

  • @casparwijn not original? then you really dont know anything about Prince. Listen to one song from each of his albums and tell me who he's copying. Who did he copy on Soft & Wet? Who did he copy on I Wanna Be Your Lover? Who did he copy on Head? On Do Me Baby? On 1999? On When Doves Cry? On If I Was Your Girlfriend? On Adore? That's just the first 15 years. We wont even discuss the next 15 - too much material. let me know so that I can check out those artists. Get your facts and come back.

  • @VanteStyle don't tell me i don't know about prince!! you don't know me and there's no need for ignorant remarks .. please! i have all his albums up to 1990 ( after that he lost his relevance.) I went to see his love sexy tour in 1988 and really enjoyed the first hour in which he played one big medly of his first decade. I love his music but he is very eclectic.. i think when i say he's one of he first post modern pop artists.. maybe you should think about that

  • @VanteStyle i think this is a really stupid argument! cause one can endlessly discus songs and lyrics and if this or that was original or not.. but in the end it just comes down to: do you like it ( yes i do) and does he have it ( yes he does) so dude, we are on the same team here.. just accept some critisism without getting all angry OK? "Think, it ain't illegal yet!" ( coming from one of his biggest influences the P-funk )

  • @VanteStyle May I interject here. You would NEVER guess where Prince took the horn section line motif that repeats in America Live Video. One of Miles' songs, Chick should be getting risiduals. I discovered it a few years ago.

    And don't even go into late 60's Little Richards... it might shock you at how even the thread of his clothes and hair dimensions were lifted. Plus the mannerisms!

    So there was some copying... Prince fans are myopic musically, but if you expand... U'd B surprised.

  • @wendileona Dissin Prince seems to be your purpose in life....why dont you get one...a life that is.

  • @VanteStyle I agree...the fact that EVERY artist got something from someone or somewhre is something that you cannot doubt. HOWEVER, even though what influenced Prince musically can be heard if he hasnt spoken it himself, it's hard to find ppl that can sound like Prince w/out sounding copycat. And prince doesn't sound just like anyone who came before him. Most cant deny that he was a game changer, and no one can do things like he did them! His Purple BADNESS!!

  • Miles was a wild dude...

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