No use Don, sanctimonious self-righteous limousine liberal scum like priorzola like to control everyone else. If they were intellectually honest they would be teaching children in school a real song:
Mmm mmm mmm George W Bush! Mmm mmm mmm He liberated Iraq and freed the Curds Mmm mmm mmm He kept us safe after 9/11 Mmm mmm mmm while pursuing a murderous, treacherous, Muslim! Mmm mmm mmm Some things like spending were out of control Mmm mmm mmm But Obamas spending makes Bush'like a penny pinching grandmo! Mmm mmm mmm George W Bush!
(R) = "NO!" Applicatory aside from congressional rationing, this can even be infused extraction-ally, they want to be partisan and always cantankerous. Certainly, why not? Some-bodies have to feel empower, now by over significant amounts!
CSLibbey, you mean the SOCIALIST in those Red States that tend to take more money from the federal coffers than they actually contribute. Or would that be the SOCIALISTS at the few Red States that make money off of more CORPORATE WELFARE than any other state per capita ever. Sorry tool, the numbers prove you wrong. The GOP ran states tend to need the biggest bailouts and end up with the worse results (healthcare, education, etc) overall. Learn what SOCIALISM is before you spew, tool.
No Im talking about the fucking socialist assholes in CA, NJ and NY. You know the kind- the Narrow, unenlightened, self-interest, self-important, White bourgeois liberal socialist assholes who want us all to live off the government. Actually pal- I live in NJ and its run by scumbag liberals who ran it into the ground- and its the one that needs the biggest bailouts. Republican states are the ones with the AUDACITY to say and do it on their own. Like America used to be!
Donald, too bad FACTS don't support your claim. Those SOCIALIST 9the one's in Liberal states that don't mind paying taxes because it means they often have better schools, better healthcare results, and better economies). No goon, I'm talking about the RED STATES that actually receive more funds from the federal govt than they contribute and they still have third world level poverty, literacy, and healthcare results. GOP STATES have the worst education, lowest paid, & highest uninsured Americans.
Where in the hell did you come up with that? Are you on drugs? Just look at Cal and NJ again- complete and total failures in terms of the states management of money. I seriously think you should go to a RED State, and get a real education because clearly, Blue states are only passing morons. Next time, please, please get at least one fact straight before you mouth off.
Donald, look at the states with the best education rates, they are predominately BLUE STATES. And the cellar dwellers are practically all RED STATES. Chances are if you have a state with the highest illiteracy, poverty and incarceration rates, you're a RED STATE and if you have a state with higher income & education, and better healthcare, you're a blue state. Look up the figures on all of these stats, you SOCIALIST WELFARE RECIPIENT RED STATERS will be surprised. You're a drag on this nation.
You are so deluded, according to the National Center for Education Statistics SC has 15 % lacking basic prose literacy skills, Kansas 8%, NJ has 17% Cal has 23%. Please priorzola, get your facts straight. You clearly are an ignorant SOCIALIST BLUE STATER looking for a HANDOUT.
Look priorzola, Im not sure whats wrong with you. Maybe a big bad white Republican stole your lollipop when you were a baby and now you hate all white guys. Maybe a southerner cut you off in the car. But take it from someone from NJ- socialism does not work- big government fails ever time its tried, and if you live in a RED STATE, take it from me- YOU SHOULD GET ON YOUR HANDS AND KNEES AND THANK GOD!!
Donald, cherry picking facts are we. FACT, the states with the worst education results tend to be red states, period. States that have the highest poverty rates tend to be red states. States that tend to take the most for the federal coffers (w/o paying their worth) tend to be red states. I have no problem with Red States except for their ingratitude toward that states that have been carrying their piss poor asses for over a century. You loss the war, move on and grow up SOCIALISTS.
And if the lil ol' Donald doesn't like the BIG BAD GOVERNMENT, then get your teenage pregnancy, overly incarcerated, highest divorce rate, impoverished, illiterate, obese (leading states in those stats--RED STATERS) back to work with decent paying wages that then, in turn, allow for decent tax revenues and start paying for your own failures instead of allowing the BLUE STATES BIG GOVT to carry your sorry excuse for states. Could it be the GOP ideology failed your failed welfare states?
Prio- what planet are you from? The planet of ignorance and stupidity? Everyone knows Blue states are a massive drag on the economy of the country as a whole.
Broxton, what planet are from. the one where having the highest poverty rates, teen prengancy rates, worst school performances, highest uninsured citizens, highest incarceration rates, lowest college education rates, highest illiteracy rates, lowest life expectancy rates, highest infant mortality rates, and lowest wages makes a STATE a glorious example of all that is great with the failed GOP values. It's a good thing RED STATERS are welfare queens, they'd be a 3rd world country otherwise.
Priorzola- you sound like just another talking head that denies the truth. You keep saying tend to.., NOBODY is interested in your OPINION. I on the other hand have given FACTS and BACKED THEM UP. Can you even begin to do the same? Look, here are the facts- BLUE STATES like Ca, NJ, NY, Mass are all going down the tubes financially. They have been totally mismanaged by DEMOCRATES (taxocrates). Stop denying the truth.
Donald, if RED STATES want to be taken seriously, they need to stop dipping into the federal coffers for more than their fair share of revenue. Little FACT that damns your whole premise, RED STATES take more than they contribute and still have piss poor results. Again, are you afraid to look up EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE and ECONOMIC RESULTS (including salaries, cost of living etc) or are you gonna cherry pick STATS and avoid facts that don't suit your thesis. GOP states, start paying up or shutup.
Priorzola- so far you have only given OPINION. And again, nobody cares what your OPINION is. I have given you a cold hard fact that is irrefutable. Only a socialist would claim that I am cherry picking when I state that California, NJ, and Mass are bankrupt. FACT is that they have been run into the ground by the democrats, turn socialists. The RED STATES are the ones who are propping up the usurper-in-thief we have in the white house.
Yea thanks to the stupid motherfuckers who voted for that socialist asshole in the White House now! Where is Lee Harvey Oswald now that we need him?!?!? (oh I forgot he was a socialist too!)
Broxton, what a dumbass you are. Sorry tools, the CORPORATIST COMMUNISTS who have been sucking more than their fair share of wealth from this country and the neocon conartist goons who have helped secure them all their free money have trained you idiots well. Too bad you're too stupid to realise how PLAYED the GOP has you goons. It's called democracy, it's what happens when CORPORATIST COMMUNIST policies fail. Get used to it, goons.
Donald, too bad they do (and that's why they tend to have better educated states and higher incomes). Again, you're defending FAILED POLICIES that don't help the white working and middle class who have been conned to support the GOP. The average American made $2000 less a year under Bush while 3/4 of the wealth generated went to the top 1%. You're a trained reactionary lapdog for a party who could give a shit about you. You're defending DEAD ideas and failed STATES.
And what do those educational systems promote- failed liberal ideas, death, and debauchery, pretty much anything deplorable. Just look at the archaic tax system in the BLUE STATES- do you have any idea how many people live in PA, Md, and Del yet work in NJ and NY thanks to BLUE STATE ignorance of taxation?
Donald, you mean that PROGRESSIVE tax system invented by the likes of Teddy Roosevelt (a REPUBLICAN). Get a clue. AGAIN, the tax sytems of RED STATES doesn't even cover the basic needs and thats why a) they're always sponging off the federal teat for blue state money and b) their infrastucture is in ruins and their services are deplorable hence their failures in education, healthcare, and their economy. The most WELFARE goes to corporations so spare me your talking points in lieu of facts
Just look at NJ! Highest property taxes, worst schools, worst roads! Not unlike the other blue states of NY, California, Mass, etc. But what would you know, hypocrite, if you had any honor and believed half the stupid shit you spew you would put your money where your mouth is and voluntarily give the wonderful blue states more of your hard earned money because they know better than you what to do with it.. Socialist punk.
No Im talking about that socialist tax system invented by the likes of Wilson who invented the barbaric (i.e.- progressive) tax system in order to fund his folly- League of Nations, or the far more corrupt United Nations.
AGAIN- the Blue states are worthless pieces of uneducated, corrupt, bankrupt, institutions of the taxocrate party.
You and your bud, obummer, corzine and the like are trying to support failed ideas which brought us the Carter misery index in the 70s, not to mention recession after recession. Hell, in Russia it brought 50 million dead thanks to liberal purging of the population. Just look at NJ and California- the worst educational systems in the country, but the highest costing- thanks to failed liberalism.
If you want to be REAL CONSERVATIVES take responsibility for the failures of RED STATES and stop sponging wealth that you didn't create from BLUE STATES that know how to pay for a first world economy. BTW, REAGAN didn't destroy socialism, he just tranferred it here in the form of CORPORATE HANDOUTS and created the largest class of CORPORATE COMMUNISTS on the face of the earth. REAGAN left the biggest deficits second only to GW BUSH. But, at least, he raised taxes to paid for his failed policies.
Man, you have got the biggest horse blinders in the world on dont you? Reagan had to drive the deficit up to show you and the other socialists that capitalism works every times its tried but primarily to keep the spend happy taxocrates from spending even more! But you think that somehow Reagan and Bush are bad for spending a few pennies compared to that piece of crap in the White House now- hes wasting trillions!
Donald, more excuses about the LACK of FISCALLY CONSERVATISM and failure to own failure (ie so-called personal responsbility) on the part of so-called conservatives. Let's see, it's ok to have BIG GOVT W/ HUGE DEFICITS, FAILED LEADERSHIP who perform illegal acts W/O ACCOUNTABILITY, and to have PISS POOR STATES and FAILED ECONOMIC POLICIES as long is it's done by the GOP. Sorry goons, just because neocons like to misuse the philosophies of "concervatives' doesn't mean they are REAL conservatives.
Lets see- 10.2% unemployment, $10 trillion in debt, more than $1.2 trillion this year before a ready-made-to-fail entitlement like socialized health care and cap and trade are passed.... and you have the audacity to bring up the last president. Pal you boy is on a roll to bankrupt the country..... Some "Hope and Change"..... meaningless and ignorant platitudes....
Donald, BANKRUPTING the country is starting vanity wars that a) will only benefit a handful of billionaires and b) you're leaders too cheap ass to ask Americans to actually pay for and this is call PROPPING UP YOUR FRIENDS and ignoring all else. PAYING UP FRONT for services for the American people that are a) bankrupting the average American (healthcare costs are the #1 reason for filing bankruptcy) and b) causing job loss (due to the high cost of benefits for employers) is called INVESTMENT.
Donald, WASTING MONEY on SAVING LIVES w/ health care reform is better than WASTING MONEY on vanity wars that TAKE AWAY LIVES. Spare me, the reason that BUSH FAILED is that he cared more about the bottom line for his pals than they needs of the American people. 3/4 of the wealth in the last 8 yrs went to the top 1% while the average American made $2000 LESS a year. And we won't talk about the lack of domestic investments. USE FACTS not BS neocon talking points and sorry excuses to make your case.
Priorzola- show me where in the Constitution it gives the usurper in the White House or that ignorant fruitcake heading the House the right to shove socialized healthcare down our throats- you cannot. It's totalitarian socialism you and the extreemist democrates have brought upon us!
Donald, show me in the Constitution (the one you havent read nor understood--being that it was written in a archaic 18th century legalise that your talking point guru Glenn beck doesn't understand) where free education, roads, and subsidies for everyone from farmers to pharmaceuticaal companies to energy companies to defense contractors was what the govt is supposed to do. Face it goon, you're cherry picking using logic handed to you through talking point gurus (you're an obvious shill for them)
Prio- ok, now we know where you stand... another socialist who, due to a mental imbalance, cannot read "18 century legalise" that farmers and tradesman wrote...... Once again you show your stupidity- "free ed, roads, etc are all the privy of the states.... not the federal government. Which if you could read would know.
Prio- I think I understand your problem.... you have not been reading the US Constitution.... you have been reading the Communist Manifesto...... Now we see what your problem is..... try reading the US Constitution for a change..... and here is a while idea... any power not specifically given to the federal government is reserved for the states or the people.... But that's not in your pathetic ideology is it..... government is all and be all to you and the usurper in the White House.
Broxton, which part of the Constitution is it that says we can use false information to start illegal wars again? Sorry goon it was GOP Lincoln who first trampled on that part of the Constitution and RED STATES have been pissing and moaning about it ever since. But, when left to their own devices (ie, w/o all the over abundance of FREE FEDERAL MONEY that Red States rely on) these states would be even more dismal than they are. RED STATES pay your way or stop bitching about the FEDERAL GOVT.
Donald, NEXT TIME realise that people who actually listen to NPR are the ones in poll after poll who actually show that they have the highest degree of acknowledged FACTS informing their opinions whereas it is the average FOX VIEWER who in poll after poll are operating on virtual ignorance (and willful at that). Sorry tool, its the FACTS that you're afriad of no matter what the source. ENJOY your WELFARE check from the BLUE STATES, tool. Act grateful that we dragged your ass to the 21st century.
Ladies and Gentlemen you have just heard everything that is wrong in the heads of the lazy, self-righteous socialist vermin who voted for our current Accident in Chief Obama. According to them, the only way to get wealthy is through theft, and you must be punished for your success.
As always, socialists like to only go by their made up facts and miss reality completely. But Im not surprised in the least. Fact 1- liberal states spend more on schools and get less (look at the test scores for yourself). Fact 2. liberal states like NJ and Cal have been shutting down hospitals because they cannot afford them. Hence, more poor people suffer. Face 3. Better economies?
Donald, FACT liberal states have the highest education rankings in this country. The RED STATES have the worse education results and spend the least. not a coincidence. Fact 2: the highest infant mortality rates, uninsured citizen rates and lowest life expectancy rates are to be most likely found in RED STATES. Fact 3: the lowest income rates are to be also found in mostly red states. And since these states can't collect decent taxes, they rely on more from the Federal govt than they pay in.
I think the government needs to run a few things. its put there by us to keep things inline. The only reason why its fucked up now is because corporations run it. If it was brought back under our control, it wouldnt be a problem.
Also priorzola- get a new line "learn what socialist is" is a very old uneducated cliché that liberal like to spew along with the racist card they like to whip out of their pie holes. CSL wants to know if you socialist put your own money where your mouths are or just expect others to pay for your failed bullshit ideas.
Donald, so you GOP goons need to stop running either massive corporate welfare states like Texas and Alaska, or massive welfare drains like Georgia, Alabam, amnd Mississippi. It's not a coincidence that those LIBERAL cities like NYC, LA, and SF are also some of the most expensive in this country. And it's not a coincidence that even world wide LIBERAL CITIES like Hong Kong, Moscow, Paris, London, Copenhagen, & Tokyo are the most espensive. So-called CONSERVATIVES don't walk it like they talk it.
Donals, SOCIALIST states like ALASKA (who receive more per capita federal funding than any other state), and other CORPORATE welfare states like TEXAS still have high teen pregnancy rates, incarceration rates, and lower education rates even with all the FREE MONEY they get. That would make them SOCIALISTS, ie states who rely on funds from other states to prop up their failures. You know when a neocon goon is trying to sell you on their BS, they pull out socialism w/o knowing what it means.
By the way- per the Guttmacher Institute, the % of Alaskans lacking basic prose literacy skills is 9%. In terms of Abortion ratio (baby murder ratio) birthrate to abortion rate California and NJ Lead with 43 and 60 respectfully. Texas is at 20 and Oklahoma is at 17. So now we know that BLUE STATERS ARE BABY MURDERERS!
Yeah, Jay Rockefeller out raged about Americans Being Ripped Off! What a joke. He and his family have been ripping off America for some time now. "Socialized Medicine it the Arbor for Communism" Karl Marx
All these lefties will not be happy until we are all hooked to the tax yoke and pulling their weight.
interesting that you seem to be a holocaust denier and yet you chose a name that is synonymous with betraying those around him by choosing to be ignorant
Unfortunately this doesn't surprise me at all. Crap like this happens every day. It's insane that America has come to this. I think the thanks should go to the corporations, the government and the media. When America finally collapses it will be a sad day, for the people that is.
well yes and no faster internet would allow more indept medical history and also bigger banks of data to gather from. Also with the load moving from one spot to another faster.Plus millions of other uses the average speed is 300-700kb/s(thats when they say 6mb/s)
Apparently US families need to incorporate themselves. Maybe then our government would give a shit about what we want or need. I guess we'd still have to bribe them like other businesses though. Fuck it. Outlaw all financial contributions to congressmen, put them on a fixed salary and fixed campaign budget that comes from the people.
all those americans out protesting against healthcare are not wholey to blame, all you fucks who sat at home and didnt counter protest them, letting them run wild you are also to blame
I was chanting usa usa usa when I heard you are gettin healthcare but same old shit where the rich get richer and the evil are still in power.
your near bankrupt lol still giving out to companies
This resolution Rockfeller says he wants passed is the same bill he pulled from the vote. This whole thing is bs and the insurance companies are the only ones who once again will make out like bandits.
don't need insurance, just need access to treatment without a fucking bill! Put congress and the senate on commission; more they save, more they make. Fucking simple! Watch how fast this nation grows a surplus. Over-fucking-night!
Time for some reality. As Dr. Panarev and Clemente said, usa is about to implode and disintegrae. With criminals like this in teh government, it is just a matter of how soon. Super. Where's my popcorn...?
Fuck the insurance companies. I could care less if they ALL went out of business. This is NOT meaningful healthcare reform. Give us reform that is for the people, not the corporations. I'm sick of the fucking corporations. Stop treating people's lives like they're a commodity. We're going to wind up losing the public option when it was the compromise for UHC. This reform is going to be nothing but a fucking bailout for the crooks in the healthcare industry.
Whats this? Another conservative dumbass who thinks that all left-wingers are in poverty? Sorry sir, I've got a future and it involves private healthcare with a public option.
It's a generational thing. The society we live in is by design, it is no accident. When you see people clamoring over how horrible it is that institutions are failing it is because these are exactly the institutions they want to keep in service.
The argument is that insurance companies make too much profit so the solution is to give them half a trillion dollars? This makes no sense at all. This smells like bailout scam, and now that Rockefeller is getting involved it almost surely is.
The point of this money is to ensure that this bill passes. If he didn't offer it, insurance companies would probably still dump in millions of dollars to senators and commercials to stop health care reform. It's kind of like a bribe.
You're right ajre82, trusting your government is the way we need to go. Just let them run us the way they want to regardless of taxes and cost dammit. The way republicans can essentially halt a bill as important as the $900 Billion Health Care Reform bill makes me sick
This is just another way the Democratic Leadership is going to screw over America. Every SOB who votes for this give away needs to be replaced. Another thing short of a public option is not reform. The Democrats don't have any excuse.
no fucking way, seriously? this has to be a joke or something because if it is true then we the fucking people need to stop the right wing from pushing this through and i am fucking serious. i am tired of republicans hijacking our government to pad their god damn fucking pockets.
The fact that the republicans don't have the house, the senate, or the executive branch, and still have so much fucking control is disgusting. The Democrats have been the biggest failure i thought they every could be. The finance committee dems. who voted against the health care public option have all bee tied to the insurance companies via staff members, close lobby ties, and if I'm not mistaken, some of the house staff members from these dems. had even worked as insurance company lobbyists.
UNFORGIVABLE! He is a traitor. He is on the pockets of the insurance companies. Who knows. The point is this is unacceptable.
There are a few things wrong with this guy. One - he thinks the Insurance Companies will follow through. Everyone and their mother knows they won't. Plain and simple - somehow the Senate 'won't be aware of their spending' or they'll weasel their way out of it.
More tax dollars down the drain in big giveaways to altar of human sacrifice for profit.
you romans are crazy! half a trillion dollars to the insurance companies! for what? here in canada we don't even call it insurance. we don't have health insurance. we have health care. health care. that's it. you go to the doctor when you're sick. the end. the reform of your system involves giving the insurance companies half a trillion dollars!? i'm sorry, but it's over. i was watching and rooting for you guys but it's over.
As stated here in brief, and possibly also in full, this amendment is batshit fucking insane (sorry Al). We'll see the same trick from the insurers that was poineered by the bailed-out banks. An accounting trick involving different "pockets."
90% of the gov't money WILL be spent on health care. But a lot of it will be spent on care for patients with coverage. The increased profits and salaries will come from the money paid by covered patients that is no longer needed for care.
Just another frustrated control freak then ?
Pomiferous 1 year ago
Another frustrated control frak
Pomiferous 1 year ago
He is now the patriarch of the family after davids resignation.
Divis506 1 year ago
this man OWNS president Obama!
Divis506 1 year ago
you libs will pay come 2012.You thought Bush was bad get ready for what we do.Reeducation camps anyone?
ragepussy 2 years ago
No use Don, sanctimonious self-righteous limousine liberal scum like priorzola like to control everyone else. If they were intellectually honest they would be teaching children in school a real song:
Broxton428 2 years ago 2
Broxton428 2 years ago
Huffington Post reporting 3rd quarter ratings for cable news. Not from Fox, Huffington Post.
Fox dominates, again. O'Reilly up12%, Hannity upo 9%, Beck up 89%, not a mistype Beck up 89%.
Keith down another 12%, oh tough blow, another month on the slide. Even CNN kicked MSNBC's rear.
Rachel Maddow down 40%. Almost half her viewers have realized she is worthless as a host. Now that's gotta hurt.
Don't take my word for it, I'm just spreading the facts. Look it up for yourself.
independentview1 2 years ago
Fred Pentucci, Ron Krespie, Chuckie Weller.
Republican heroes or racist morons?
Google "Girther Movement", then "Girth Trek Two" and decide for yourself.
Warning! Spoiler re: A man on Sarah Palin's so-called "short list" for 2012 running mate within.
Canaderek 2 years ago
(R) = "NO!" Applicatory aside from congressional rationing, this can even be infused extraction-ally, they want to be partisan and always cantankerous. Certainly, why not? Some-bodies have to feel empower, now by over significant amounts!
Mokouteh 2 years ago
Yea right! What a fucking moron! Let see if Frankin and Rockefeller will work for nothing! God damn socialists!!
CSLibbey 2 years ago
CSLibbey, you mean the SOCIALIST in those Red States that tend to take more money from the federal coffers than they actually contribute. Or would that be the SOCIALISTS at the few Red States that make money off of more CORPORATE WELFARE than any other state per capita ever. Sorry tool, the numbers prove you wrong. The GOP ran states tend to need the biggest bailouts and end up with the worse results (healthcare, education, etc) overall. Learn what SOCIALISM is before you spew, tool.
priorzola 2 years ago
No Im talking about the fucking socialist assholes in CA, NJ and NY. You know the kind- the Narrow, unenlightened, self-interest, self-important, White bourgeois liberal socialist assholes who want us all to live off the government. Actually pal- I live in NJ and its run by scumbag liberals who ran it into the ground- and its the one that needs the biggest bailouts. Republican states are the ones with the AUDACITY to say and do it on their own. Like America used to be!
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, too bad FACTS don't support your claim. Those SOCIALIST 9the one's in Liberal states that don't mind paying taxes because it means they often have better schools, better healthcare results, and better economies). No goon, I'm talking about the RED STATES that actually receive more funds from the federal govt than they contribute and they still have third world level poverty, literacy, and healthcare results. GOP STATES have the worst education, lowest paid, & highest uninsured Americans.
priorzola 2 years ago
Where in the hell did you come up with that? Are you on drugs? Just look at Cal and NJ again- complete and total failures in terms of the states management of money. I seriously think you should go to a RED State, and get a real education because clearly, Blue states are only passing morons. Next time, please, please get at least one fact straight before you mouth off.
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, look at the states with the best education rates, they are predominately BLUE STATES. And the cellar dwellers are practically all RED STATES. Chances are if you have a state with the highest illiteracy, poverty and incarceration rates, you're a RED STATE and if you have a state with higher income & education, and better healthcare, you're a blue state. Look up the figures on all of these stats, you SOCIALIST WELFARE RECIPIENT RED STATERS will be surprised. You're a drag on this nation.
priorzola 2 years ago
You are so deluded, according to the National Center for Education Statistics SC has 15 % lacking basic prose literacy skills, Kansas 8%, NJ has 17% Cal has 23%. Please priorzola, get your facts straight. You clearly are an ignorant SOCIALIST BLUE STATER looking for a HANDOUT.
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Look priorzola, Im not sure whats wrong with you. Maybe a big bad white Republican stole your lollipop when you were a baby and now you hate all white guys. Maybe a southerner cut you off in the car. But take it from someone from NJ- socialism does not work- big government fails ever time its tried, and if you live in a RED STATE, take it from me- YOU SHOULD GET ON YOUR HANDS AND KNEES AND THANK GOD!!
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, cherry picking facts are we. FACT, the states with the worst education results tend to be red states, period. States that have the highest poverty rates tend to be red states. States that tend to take the most for the federal coffers (w/o paying their worth) tend to be red states. I have no problem with Red States except for their ingratitude toward that states that have been carrying their piss poor asses for over a century. You loss the war, move on and grow up SOCIALISTS.
priorzola 2 years ago
And if the lil ol' Donald doesn't like the BIG BAD GOVERNMENT, then get your teenage pregnancy, overly incarcerated, highest divorce rate, impoverished, illiterate, obese (leading states in those stats--RED STATERS) back to work with decent paying wages that then, in turn, allow for decent tax revenues and start paying for your own failures instead of allowing the BLUE STATES BIG GOVT to carry your sorry excuse for states. Could it be the GOP ideology failed your failed welfare states?
priorzola 2 years ago
Prio- what planet are you from? The planet of ignorance and stupidity? Everyone knows Blue states are a massive drag on the economy of the country as a whole.
Broxton428 2 years ago
Broxton, what planet are from. the one where having the highest poverty rates, teen prengancy rates, worst school performances, highest uninsured citizens, highest incarceration rates, lowest college education rates, highest illiteracy rates, lowest life expectancy rates, highest infant mortality rates, and lowest wages makes a STATE a glorious example of all that is great with the failed GOP values. It's a good thing RED STATERS are welfare queens, they'd be a 3rd world country otherwise.
priorzola 2 years ago
Priorzola- you sound like just another talking head that denies the truth. You keep saying tend to.., NOBODY is interested in your OPINION. I on the other hand have given FACTS and BACKED THEM UP. Can you even begin to do the same? Look, here are the facts- BLUE STATES like Ca, NJ, NY, Mass are all going down the tubes financially. They have been totally mismanaged by DEMOCRATES (taxocrates). Stop denying the truth.
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, if RED STATES want to be taken seriously, they need to stop dipping into the federal coffers for more than their fair share of revenue. Little FACT that damns your whole premise, RED STATES take more than they contribute and still have piss poor results. Again, are you afraid to look up EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE and ECONOMIC RESULTS (including salaries, cost of living etc) or are you gonna cherry pick STATS and avoid facts that don't suit your thesis. GOP states, start paying up or shutup.
priorzola 2 years ago
Priorzola- so far you have only given OPINION. And again, nobody cares what your OPINION is. I have given you a cold hard fact that is irrefutable. Only a socialist would claim that I am cherry picking when I state that California, NJ, and Mass are bankrupt. FACT is that they have been run into the ground by the democrats, turn socialists. The RED STATES are the ones who are propping up the usurper-in-thief we have in the white house.
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Its high time that the BLUE STATES start paying their fair share and shut the fuck up!
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
We're already a socialist nation, so, you shut the fuck up!
jasbigj 2 years ago
Yea thanks to the stupid motherfuckers who voted for that socialist asshole in the White House now! Where is Lee Harvey Oswald now that we need him?!?!? (oh I forgot he was a socialist too!)
Broxton428 2 years ago
Broxton, what a dumbass you are. Sorry tools, the CORPORATIST COMMUNISTS who have been sucking more than their fair share of wealth from this country and the neocon conartist goons who have helped secure them all their free money have trained you idiots well. Too bad you're too stupid to realise how PLAYED the GOP has you goons. It's called democracy, it's what happens when CORPORATIST COMMUNIST policies fail. Get used to it, goons.
priorzola 2 years ago
Yeah, it is too bad Lee Harvey Oswalds gone, then he could take you out. You lost, get over it.
jasbigj 2 years ago
Donald, too bad they do (and that's why they tend to have better educated states and higher incomes). Again, you're defending FAILED POLICIES that don't help the white working and middle class who have been conned to support the GOP. The average American made $2000 less a year under Bush while 3/4 of the wealth generated went to the top 1%. You're a trained reactionary lapdog for a party who could give a shit about you. You're defending DEAD ideas and failed STATES.
priorzola 2 years ago
And what do those educational systems promote- failed liberal ideas, death, and debauchery, pretty much anything deplorable. Just look at the archaic tax system in the BLUE STATES- do you have any idea how many people live in PA, Md, and Del yet work in NJ and NY thanks to BLUE STATE ignorance of taxation?
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, you mean that PROGRESSIVE tax system invented by the likes of Teddy Roosevelt (a REPUBLICAN). Get a clue. AGAIN, the tax sytems of RED STATES doesn't even cover the basic needs and thats why a) they're always sponging off the federal teat for blue state money and b) their infrastucture is in ruins and their services are deplorable hence their failures in education, healthcare, and their economy. The most WELFARE goes to corporations so spare me your talking points in lieu of facts
priorzola 2 years ago
Just look at NJ! Highest property taxes, worst schools, worst roads! Not unlike the other blue states of NY, California, Mass, etc. But what would you know, hypocrite, if you had any honor and believed half the stupid shit you spew you would put your money where your mouth is and voluntarily give the wonderful blue states more of your hard earned money because they know better than you what to do with it.. Socialist punk.
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
No Im talking about that socialist tax system invented by the likes of Wilson who invented the barbaric (i.e.- progressive) tax system in order to fund his folly- League of Nations, or the far more corrupt United Nations.
AGAIN- the Blue states are worthless pieces of uneducated, corrupt, bankrupt, institutions of the taxocrate party.
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
You and your bud, obummer, corzine and the like are trying to support failed ideas which brought us the Carter misery index in the 70s, not to mention recession after recession. Hell, in Russia it brought 50 million dead thanks to liberal purging of the population. Just look at NJ and California- the worst educational systems in the country, but the highest costing- thanks to failed liberalism.
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
If you want to be REAL CONSERVATIVES take responsibility for the failures of RED STATES and stop sponging wealth that you didn't create from BLUE STATES that know how to pay for a first world economy. BTW, REAGAN didn't destroy socialism, he just tranferred it here in the form of CORPORATE HANDOUTS and created the largest class of CORPORATE COMMUNISTS on the face of the earth. REAGAN left the biggest deficits second only to GW BUSH. But, at least, he raised taxes to paid for his failed policies.
priorzola 2 years ago
Man, you have got the biggest horse blinders in the world on dont you? Reagan had to drive the deficit up to show you and the other socialists that capitalism works every times its tried but primarily to keep the spend happy taxocrates from spending even more! But you think that somehow Reagan and Bush are bad for spending a few pennies compared to that piece of crap in the White House now- hes wasting trillions!
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, more excuses about the LACK of FISCALLY CONSERVATISM and failure to own failure (ie so-called personal responsbility) on the part of so-called conservatives. Let's see, it's ok to have BIG GOVT W/ HUGE DEFICITS, FAILED LEADERSHIP who perform illegal acts W/O ACCOUNTABILITY, and to have PISS POOR STATES and FAILED ECONOMIC POLICIES as long is it's done by the GOP. Sorry goons, just because neocons like to misuse the philosophies of "concervatives' doesn't mean they are REAL conservatives.
priorzola 2 years ago
Lets see- 10.2% unemployment, $10 trillion in debt, more than $1.2 trillion this year before a ready-made-to-fail entitlement like socialized health care and cap and trade are passed.... and you have the audacity to bring up the last president. Pal you boy is on a roll to bankrupt the country..... Some "Hope and Change"..... meaningless and ignorant platitudes....
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, BANKRUPTING the country is starting vanity wars that a) will only benefit a handful of billionaires and b) you're leaders too cheap ass to ask Americans to actually pay for and this is call PROPPING UP YOUR FRIENDS and ignoring all else. PAYING UP FRONT for services for the American people that are a) bankrupting the average American (healthcare costs are the #1 reason for filing bankruptcy) and b) causing job loss (due to the high cost of benefits for employers) is called INVESTMENT.
priorzola 2 years ago
Hey cum guzzler- what is your asshole buddy Obummer doing now in the middle east..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, eat crow libTARD!!!!
Broxton428 2 years ago
Donald, WASTING MONEY on SAVING LIVES w/ health care reform is better than WASTING MONEY on vanity wars that TAKE AWAY LIVES. Spare me, the reason that BUSH FAILED is that he cared more about the bottom line for his pals than they needs of the American people. 3/4 of the wealth in the last 8 yrs went to the top 1% while the average American made $2000 LESS a year. And we won't talk about the lack of domestic investments. USE FACTS not BS neocon talking points and sorry excuses to make your case.
priorzola 2 years ago
Priorzola- show me where in the Constitution it gives the usurper in the White House or that ignorant fruitcake heading the House the right to shove socialized healthcare down our throats- you cannot. It's totalitarian socialism you and the extreemist democrates have brought upon us!
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, show me in the Constitution (the one you havent read nor understood--being that it was written in a archaic 18th century legalise that your talking point guru Glenn beck doesn't understand) where free education, roads, and subsidies for everyone from farmers to pharmaceuticaal companies to energy companies to defense contractors was what the govt is supposed to do. Face it goon, you're cherry picking using logic handed to you through talking point gurus (you're an obvious shill for them)
priorzola 2 years ago
Prio- ok, now we know where you stand... another socialist who, due to a mental imbalance, cannot read "18 century legalise" that farmers and tradesman wrote...... Once again you show your stupidity- "free ed, roads, etc are all the privy of the states.... not the federal government. Which if you could read would know.
Broxton428 2 years ago
Prio- I think I understand your problem.... you have not been reading the US Constitution.... you have been reading the Communist Manifesto...... Now we see what your problem is..... try reading the US Constitution for a change..... and here is a while idea... any power not specifically given to the federal government is reserved for the states or the people.... But that's not in your pathetic ideology is it..... government is all and be all to you and the usurper in the White House.
Broxton428 2 years ago
Broxton, which part of the Constitution is it that says we can use false information to start illegal wars again? Sorry goon it was GOP Lincoln who first trampled on that part of the Constitution and RED STATES have been pissing and moaning about it ever since. But, when left to their own devices (ie, w/o all the over abundance of FREE FEDERAL MONEY that Red States rely on) these states would be even more dismal than they are. RED STATES pay your way or stop bitching about the FEDERAL GOVT.
priorzola 2 years ago
Next time try using FACTS and not bullshit from NPR.... socialists are so pathetic!
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, NEXT TIME realise that people who actually listen to NPR are the ones in poll after poll who actually show that they have the highest degree of acknowledged FACTS informing their opinions whereas it is the average FOX VIEWER who in poll after poll are operating on virtual ignorance (and willful at that). Sorry tool, its the FACTS that you're afriad of no matter what the source. ENJOY your WELFARE check from the BLUE STATES, tool. Act grateful that we dragged your ass to the 21st century.
priorzola 2 years ago
Ladies and Gentlemen you have just heard everything that is wrong in the heads of the lazy, self-righteous socialist vermin who voted for our current Accident in Chief Obama. According to them, the only way to get wealthy is through theft, and you must be punished for your success.
Broxton428 2 years ago
@priorzola LOL well said.
trinsic1 2 years ago
Defending Dead Ideas? Priorzola, youre a lapdog for socialism- a totally dead system REAGAN destroyed.
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
As always, socialists like to only go by their made up facts and miss reality completely. But Im not surprised in the least. Fact 1- liberal states spend more on schools and get less (look at the test scores for yourself). Fact 2. liberal states like NJ and Cal have been shutting down hospitals because they cannot afford them. Hence, more poor people suffer. Face 3. Better economies?
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, FACT liberal states have the highest education rankings in this country. The RED STATES have the worse education results and spend the least. not a coincidence. Fact 2: the highest infant mortality rates, uninsured citizen rates and lowest life expectancy rates are to be most likely found in RED STATES. Fact 3: the lowest income rates are to be also found in mostly red states. And since these states can't collect decent taxes, they rely on more from the Federal govt than they pay in.
priorzola 2 years ago
I think the government needs to run a few things. its put there by us to keep things inline. The only reason why its fucked up now is because corporations run it. If it was brought back under our control, it wouldnt be a problem.
trinsic1 2 years ago
Also priorzola- get a new line "learn what socialist is" is a very old uneducated cliché that liberal like to spew along with the racist card they like to whip out of their pie holes. CSL wants to know if you socialist put your own money where your mouths are or just expect others to pay for your failed bullshit ideas.
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
Donald, so you GOP goons need to stop running either massive corporate welfare states like Texas and Alaska, or massive welfare drains like Georgia, Alabam, amnd Mississippi. It's not a coincidence that those LIBERAL cities like NYC, LA, and SF are also some of the most expensive in this country. And it's not a coincidence that even world wide LIBERAL CITIES like Hong Kong, Moscow, Paris, London, Copenhagen, & Tokyo are the most espensive. So-called CONSERVATIVES don't walk it like they talk it.
priorzola 2 years ago
Donals, SOCIALIST states like ALASKA (who receive more per capita federal funding than any other state), and other CORPORATE welfare states like TEXAS still have high teen pregnancy rates, incarceration rates, and lower education rates even with all the FREE MONEY they get. That would make them SOCIALISTS, ie states who rely on funds from other states to prop up their failures. You know when a neocon goon is trying to sell you on their BS, they pull out socialism w/o knowing what it means.
priorzola 2 years ago
By the way- per the Guttmacher Institute, the % of Alaskans lacking basic prose literacy skills is 9%. In terms of Abortion ratio (baby murder ratio) birthrate to abortion rate California and NJ Lead with 43 and 60 respectfully. Texas is at 20 and Oklahoma is at 17. So now we know that BLUE STATERS ARE BABY MURDERERS!
DonaldDoggett 2 years ago
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Broxton428 2 years ago
keep profits away from human suffering
tuktukktotam 2 years ago
Yeah, Jay Rockefeller out raged about Americans Being Ripped Off! What a joke. He and his family have been ripping off America for some time now. "Socialized Medicine it the Arbor for Communism" Karl Marx
All these lefties will not be happy until we are all hooked to the tax yoke and pulling their weight.
Hawkflieshigh 2 years ago
when i hear about a Rockefeller in politics, one thing comes to mind......
CONFLICT OF INTEREST! GTFO
803brando 2 years ago
Perhaps I know someone who was there.
adm58 2 years ago
interesting that you seem to be a holocaust denier and yet you chose a name that is synonymous with betraying those around him by choosing to be ignorant
physivic 2 years ago
Um, I think anything good he may have done was probably outweighed by the fact he killed German citizens by the millions.
adm58 2 years ago
Unfortunately this doesn't surprise me at all. Crap like this happens every day. It's insane that America has come to this. I think the thanks should go to the corporations, the government and the media. When America finally collapses it will be a sad day, for the people that is.
monterevolt 2 years ago
oh come on I have to say fuck giving them 500billion we can spend around 350billion and have 100mbit/s internet speeds all across the U.S.
Zer0OZero 2 years ago
Ya that will save lives having faster internet.
supasolly 2 years ago
well yes and no faster internet would allow more indept medical history and also bigger banks of data to gather from. Also with the load moving from one spot to another faster.Plus millions of other uses the average speed is 300-700kb/s(thats when they say 6mb/s)
Zer0OZero 2 years ago
is this surprising? Look at the bailouts! free market what??
kybuRz101 2 years ago
Is this Rockefeller related to John D Rockefeller?
ugmold 2 years ago
yes, a great-grandson. he's the only democrat in the family.
mark99k 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHA WE ARE FUCKING SLAVES TO THE CORPORATE MASTERS!!!!
Subsidies for fucking what, so some CEO cocksucker can have a bigger mansion?
69goodfella 2 years ago 5
yeah you might want to switch to decaf
Lodger72 2 years ago
Apparently US families need to incorporate themselves. Maybe then our government would give a shit about what we want or need. I guess we'd still have to bribe them like other businesses though. Fuck it. Outlaw all financial contributions to congressmen, put them on a fixed salary and fixed campaign budget that comes from the people.
NeoConsREvil 2 years ago 3
all those americans out protesting against healthcare are not wholey to blame, all you fucks who sat at home and didnt counter protest them, letting them run wild you are also to blame
I was chanting usa usa usa when I heard you are gettin healthcare but same old shit where the rich get richer and the evil are still in power.
your near bankrupt lol still giving out to companies
GLeNss 2 years ago
This resolution Rockfeller says he wants passed is the same bill he pulled from the vote. This whole thing is bs and the insurance companies are the only ones who once again will make out like bandits.
winklestraat 2 years ago
don't need insurance, just need access to treatment without a fucking bill! Put congress and the senate on commission; more they save, more they make. Fucking simple! Watch how fast this nation grows a surplus. Over-fucking-night!
AngloHomie 2 years ago
yeah more business for the insurance companies yay.... no healthcare for poor people yay'
fuckyeah team american hell yah
*sarcasm*
public option or gtfo
Jozsus 2 years ago
The words of a criminal bastard talking about fairness, scumbag
LostFREEDOM 2 years ago
PUBLIC OPTION OR GTFO
TylerTalks 2 years ago 3
Time for some reality. As Dr. Panarev and Clemente said, usa is about to implode and disintegrae. With criminals like this in teh government, it is just a matter of how soon. Super. Where's my popcorn...?
moniquitus1 2 years ago
The videos on the side when the senator was talking brought nothing to the table and were distracting at best.
tcarrw 2 years ago
You're a douchebag olbermann, it is all about party politics, never about principles.
TajiTJ 2 years ago
Does anyone bother to stop and ask why healthcare costs have gone through the roof since the mid 60s.
Would anyone like to know what the government did then to create the monster that everyone is NOW reacting to 40 years later?
Hello?
cattleprods911 2 years ago
Fuck the insurance companies. I could care less if they ALL went out of business. This is NOT meaningful healthcare reform. Give us reform that is for the people, not the corporations. I'm sick of the fucking corporations. Stop treating people's lives like they're a commodity. We're going to wind up losing the public option when it was the compromise for UHC. This reform is going to be nothing but a fucking bailout for the crooks in the healthcare industry.
NeoConsREvil 2 years ago 7
> I could care less if they ALL went out of business
I think you mean to say that you couldn't care less.
broohaha22 2 years ago
well, they're both correct if you look at it hard enough.
because technically he could care less, it's not entirely possible to reach a point where you can't care at all ( "couldn't care less"),
because anger is infinite.
but grammatically speaking, you were right
coneythecone 2 years ago
I have money in insurance stocks so this is great news for me! Thanks poor people for voting for Obama!
ragepussy 2 years ago
Fuck you.
yngbullwnohorns 2 years ago 2
I hope they charge you extra
ragepussy 2 years ago
Won't bother me, I'm wealthy. But you see, I have something called compassion.
yngbullwnohorns 2 years ago
LOL OKAY. SURE TELL THE INTERNET ABOUT YOUR WEALTH!
Enjoy your poverty.
Chris1218218 2 years ago
Whats this? Another conservative dumbass who thinks that all left-wingers are in poverty? Sorry sir, I've got a future and it involves private healthcare with a public option.
yngbullwnohorns 2 years ago
What's this? Another weeaboo on my internets? Enjoy your anime convention.
Come back to the world wide web when you grow up a little, baby boy.
Also, I could give a shit about politics. I was just calling bs on you "being wealthy".
Chris1218218 2 years ago
Oh, gotcha. Well, head back to /b/ i'll go back to my /r9k/ bye-bye.
yngbullwnohorns 2 years ago
Oh, okay then. Take it easy dude.
Chris1218218 2 years ago
Oh yeah I got some plays if this thing passes.
TajiTJ 2 years ago
It's a generational thing. The society we live in is by design, it is no accident. When you see people clamoring over how horrible it is that institutions are failing it is because these are exactly the institutions they want to keep in service.
lvecsey 2 years ago
I like how rockefeller talks about profits. lol.
sobman 2 years ago
The argument is that insurance companies make too much profit so the solution is to give them half a trillion dollars? This makes no sense at all. This smells like bailout scam, and now that Rockefeller is getting involved it almost surely is.
MyKillK 2 years ago
The point of this money is to ensure that this bill passes. If he didn't offer it, insurance companies would probably still dump in millions of dollars to senators and commercials to stop health care reform. It's kind of like a bribe.
mercenary90 2 years ago
You're right ajre82, trusting your government is the way we need to go. Just let them run us the way they want to regardless of taxes and cost dammit. The way republicans can essentially halt a bill as important as the $900 Billion Health Care Reform bill makes me sick
thedude1039 2 years ago
This is just another way the Democratic Leadership is going to screw over America. Every SOB who votes for this give away needs to be replaced. Another thing short of a public option is not reform. The Democrats don't have any excuse.
Peace.
Peacetoyouandyours 2 years ago 2
azmegladon listens to the media too much.
fmcfad01 2 years ago
lol america
Zoootex 2 years ago 4
Forget the bill for a second... What the fuck is up with Keith Olbermann's glasses?
flimbabulous 2 years ago
Hahaha
Greywyn7 2 years ago
no fucking way, seriously? this has to be a joke or something because if it is true then we the fucking people need to stop the right wing from pushing this through and i am fucking serious. i am tired of republicans hijacking our government to pad their god damn fucking pockets.
azmegladon 2 years ago 3
what's to be expected from a government party that ANTI-GOVERNMENT and PRO-BUSINESS, with racist and religious biases running deep...
ajre82 2 years ago
Democrats outnumber the Republicans by four I think
Greywyn7 2 years ago
Its not only a republican thing... Obama got hundreds of thousands of dollars from private interests, especially Goldman Sachs.
Its not a Democrat or Republican thing, corporate interests cross party lines.
psykotrol 2 years ago 2
The fact that the republicans don't have the house, the senate, or the executive branch, and still have so much fucking control is disgusting. The Democrats have been the biggest failure i thought they every could be. The finance committee dems. who voted against the health care public option have all bee tied to the insurance companies via staff members, close lobby ties, and if I'm not mistaken, some of the house staff members from these dems. had even worked as insurance company lobbyists.
wizzledorf 2 years ago
typical government: there's a problem. throw money at it until it goes away. no one wins but the receiver. how is that going to be fixing anything?
abbynormal0ne 2 years ago
UNFORGIVABLE! He is a traitor. He is on the pockets of the insurance companies. Who knows. The point is this is unacceptable.
There are a few things wrong with this guy. One - he thinks the Insurance Companies will follow through. Everyone and their mother knows they won't. Plain and simple - somehow the Senate 'won't be aware of their spending' or they'll weasel their way out of it.
More tax dollars down the drain in big giveaways to altar of human sacrifice for profit.
Solution: REVOLT!
viskarenvisla 2 years ago 4
thats 49 billion dollars to spend on administration costs. FUCK THAT.
it should be 100%. your insurance fees pay for administration.
learn2die101 2 years ago 6
you romans are crazy! half a trillion dollars to the insurance companies! for what? here in canada we don't even call it insurance. we don't have health insurance. we have health care. health care. that's it. you go to the doctor when you're sick. the end. the reform of your system involves giving the insurance companies half a trillion dollars!? i'm sorry, but it's over. i was watching and rooting for you guys but it's over.
RL36D 2 years ago 12
As stated here in brief, and possibly also in full, this amendment is batshit fucking insane (sorry Al). We'll see the same trick from the insurers that was poineered by the bailed-out banks. An accounting trick involving different "pockets."
90% of the gov't money WILL be spent on health care. But a lot of it will be spent on care for patients with coverage. The increased profits and salaries will come from the money paid by covered patients that is no longer needed for care.
bdf2718 2 years ago 2