@vengencefrom1979 here is some science for you, however it doesnt tell the same story as the ipcc so you will probably dismiss it out of hand....its a classic denial scenario.
w w w(dot)kokopelli(dot)asso(dot)fr/climat/analyse(dot)dioxyde(dot)pdf
@vengencefrom1979 but 'who knew' we were leaving an ice age since, well, since the last ice age peak?.....wasnt it supposed to get warmer for the ice to begin to melt?.....did somebody work out a maximum warming temperature?
I really find it even more funny that these NASA bozos make no mention of the comets that have hit the sun causing violent reaction and massive ejections which has heated us up a bit
Its all about cycles. It has happened before it will happen again. People forget plants breathe CO2 and exhale O2 we return the favor by doing the opposite both are required for life. I find it funny the prius has a plant icon that grows the more efficiently you drive yet the plant would be happier with the CO2. Its ironic how many slave non-freethinkers there are in the world blindly following Gore who has 20 homes 80 A/C's and thinks a prius is an endangered species, Tax us before its to late
i recal the scare mongering over the first 'ozone hole'....then it became accepted that it was a natural occurence and not because of pcb's....now there is a NEW 'ozone hole' and lo! more scare mongering!....these assholes just will not give up until they have convinced humanity that taxation will cure it.
@whackitov There was no scare mongering. The 'hole' was manmade, the gasse were phased out, and the problem very slowly began to fix its self. Without the oone layer, life on earth is finnished.
there is no connection between taxation and ozone depletiong gasses you dumb moron. Go find yourself another planet.
@mcwolfus no, the hole was discovered, then the presumption that it was manmade was jumped upon, bear in mind, it had only just been discovered...so how the fuck did they suddenly realise it was manmade you fucking dingbat? if you just discover something then how can you instantly rule out that it is not part of a natural cycle? like for instance a whales blowhole opens to eject co2 then closes again after it refils with o2....dont call me a moron you prick!
@mcwolfus 'so much that conditions echoed the infamous ozone hole the FORMS ANNUALY over the opposite side of the planet, the Antarctic, scientists say.' quote taken from the vid write up, also 'are annual events during the poles' respective winters'
yet here you are cock jockey extreme, telling me its manmade, then calling ME a moron!?!? go find some lego or an xbox 360 to play with you dick!
@whackitov The 'hole' in the ozone layer does change naturally. The man man hole was caused by Human introduced gasses. There are still countries where the 'hole', causes problems.
The panic over nothing was a real problem which was solved you idiot, so now there is no problem,
Don't attack me, attack peer reveiwed science that called for, and banned the gasses, you stupid dumb fuckwit.
@mcwolfus so what are you trying to tell me, there is a natural hole AND a man made hole? which hole fits in which hole?......didnt find you lego did you?.....fkn brain donor.
@whackitov No, there is manmade ozone depletion on top of the natural fluxtuations. Even wikipedia will inform you of the basics. Nothing to do with lego mr troll
@mcwolfus earth has gone from being mostly tropics, to mostly frozen tundra countless times, all well documented and supported, life doesn't end as is attested to by the fact that life still exists. mans seeming attachment to disaster scenario's knows no bounds, in face of the evidence, life on earth continues, and will continue long after we have gone. panic over something that man has no control over if you want too, but the 'drama' is akin to a need for eastenders,
@whackitov The ozone layer damage is manmade, nothing to do with panic or east fucking enders, just a fact. Mans produced and released gasses over decades which punched a hole in a thin protective layer.
If you cant get your head round that fact, you must be stoned/stupid/ill, or a troll.
@mcwolfus i will repeat just once more for your benefit as you are obviously cranially challenged, the above video write up states "conditions echoed the infamous **>>>>>ozone hole that forms annually<<<<<<<<<** over the opposite side of the planet, the Antarctic scientists say". ive highlighted the part you are obviously having difficulty with so that you cant possibly miss it, it says the hole forms annually, which means it happens every year, a hole, thats me done with you.
@whackitov >>>>Countries agreed to end their production of the substances ultimately responsible for destruction of the ozone in 1987 with the Montreal Protocol. However, these pollutants, including chlorofluorocarbons, still linger in the atmosphere<<<<
Why dont you fuck off to a conspiracy or a cannabis growing site.
@mcwolfus mate you are the one who cannot get their grey matter together enough to form a coherent sentence, and you have the gall to suggest IM a pothead?? you are the one buying bullshit science, not I, do you not realise that since the 30's science has become much less about science, and more about finding the answer that those funding the research want to hear? its hardly conducive to a world of facts, but more geared to "we'll confirm whatever you want if the price is right" TWP!
current CO2 levels are at 390 ppm and rising. it wont be long before antarctica begins to thaw as fast as greenland currently is, which btw is rising out of the sea at a rate of 1 inch per year. when antarctica thaws enough it too will rise out of the sea. it is connected to every tectonic plate around the world and will crack the earths crust. this isnt doomsday bull, this is science, and quite likely the worse threat facing mankind.
@vengencefrom1979 did the icecaps melt in the 1800's? no, yet measurements of co2 in the atmosphere were as high as 400 ppm back then, which correlates with the amount of coal burned during the industrial revolution....this WHOLE planet is carbon based, do you realise how ridiculous the argument that co2 is damaging the earth sounds??
@whackitov i've heard that rumor before, and i believe that it is exactly that, a rumor. technology in the 1800's nowheres matches todays in measuring co2. accurate measurements, from more than a hundred years ago, verified, dont exist.
@vengencefrom1979 the Pettenkofer process was the standard analytical method for determining atmospheric carbon dioxide levels between 1812 and 1958 (ish) had an accuracy of within 3%.....400ppm -3% =388, 400+3%=412ppm.....hardly miles out where they? but yeah, somehow your idea of measurements taken at the poles from ice core samples MUST more accurately reflect actual levels than measurements taken in city centers during the 1800's...do you realise how silly it sounds?
@whackitov do you realize how silly it sounds that every scientist in the world states that co2 is rising and that it wasnt at 400 ppm back in the 1800's? it is not verifiable and was most likely a fluke (downwind from the coal plants maybe). stick with co2 measured by ice core samples.
@vengencefrom1979 i still do not and probably wont ever be convinced that an indirect method could be somehow more reliable than a direct one.....its like saying isaac newton didnt know his stuff simply because he was born in the 1600's.....these are recognised fully qualified scientists, you brush them off with a swipe of your hand because something new and convincing comes along? i trust you have a better understanding of chemistry than petenkoffer?
@whacked what could your scientists possibly have to cite that corroborates their hypothesis? snowflakes in wyoming? the so called scandal over tree ring data which was harped on by the media and nick named climate gate? what i have found is that more you dig the more lies you find coming from the right wing. nothing but lies, steeped in folklore, fairytales and superstitious bull. i wont miss the neo-cons one bit and good riddance to their whole party which has become corrupt with oil monies.
@TheModerator79 as ive stated in response to others who like to dismiss it as 'right wing fantasy'....it is based on scientific data not disneyland if you wish to view some of this data and conflicting scientific opinion then see w w w(dot)kokopelli(dot)asso(dot)fr/climat/analyse(dot)dioxyde(dot)pdf then get back to me with your wild generalisations
@whackitov you can cite as many scientists as you want but if the sample of air which was tested more than a hundred years ago is in question and there is no corroborating evidence then what you are dealing with is a fluke. much like the people that claimed to have found 'cold' fusion, a fluke and not reproducible in the lab. grow up for christs sake and learn some real science. you are a waste of skin.
@TheModerator79 lol! i can quote as much science as i want and you will STILL not accept it....... thank you for admitting that you are a mindless twunt incapable of independent thought and powers of reason....it is funny how historically co2 levels have fluctuated, co2 fluctuates seasonally, yet the ipcc comes along with the 'creasing iron of global warming' and you buy it hook line and sinker....you are a waste of words
@vengencefrom1979 p.s....its not a rumour, but ACTUAL SCIENCE reflecting SCIENTIFIC measurements uning the SCIENTIFIC process.....slightly more than a rumour my friend, you may not believe it, but that does not make it fairy dust
just want to make the point, Do you Realy think that this isnt being taken care of?Do you think they Dont care? Do you think they would sit back and watch Us wreck this Planet to the Point of No return? Do you thiNK
Nice job, this video explains a lot, I would say all the results are caused by this!
MyPaddyp 1 month ago
This guy is a tool. ha ha wow
8701deadmeat 2 months ago
@TheModerator79 failed
whackitov 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 here is some science for you, however it doesnt tell the same story as the ipcc so you will probably dismiss it out of hand....its a classic denial scenario.
w w w(dot)kokopelli(dot)asso(dot)fr/climat/analyse(dot)dioxyde(dot)pdf
whackitov 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 but 'who knew' we were leaving an ice age since, well, since the last ice age peak?.....wasnt it supposed to get warmer for the ice to begin to melt?.....did somebody work out a maximum warming temperature?
whackitov 2 months ago
I really find it even more funny that these NASA bozos make no mention of the comets that have hit the sun causing violent reaction and massive ejections which has heated us up a bit
fawkUtube 4 months ago
Its all about cycles. It has happened before it will happen again. People forget plants breathe CO2 and exhale O2 we return the favor by doing the opposite both are required for life. I find it funny the prius has a plant icon that grows the more efficiently you drive yet the plant would be happier with the CO2. Its ironic how many slave non-freethinkers there are in the world blindly following Gore who has 20 homes 80 A/C's and thinks a prius is an endangered species, Tax us before its to late
fawkUtube 4 months ago
i recal the scare mongering over the first 'ozone hole'....then it became accepted that it was a natural occurence and not because of pcb's....now there is a NEW 'ozone hole' and lo! more scare mongering!....these assholes just will not give up until they have convinced humanity that taxation will cure it.
whackitov 5 months ago 2
@whackitov There was no scare mongering. The 'hole' was manmade, the gasse were phased out, and the problem very slowly began to fix its self. Without the oone layer, life on earth is finnished.
there is no connection between taxation and ozone depletiong gasses you dumb moron. Go find yourself another planet.
mcwolfus 2 months ago
@mcwolfus no, the hole was discovered, then the presumption that it was manmade was jumped upon, bear in mind, it had only just been discovered...so how the fuck did they suddenly realise it was manmade you fucking dingbat? if you just discover something then how can you instantly rule out that it is not part of a natural cycle? like for instance a whales blowhole opens to eject co2 then closes again after it refils with o2....dont call me a moron you prick!
whackitov 2 months ago
@whackitov There was no scaremongering, just science, and that has nothing to do with 'taxes'.
Go find yourself another planet to live on dumb moron.
mcwolfus 2 months ago
@mcwolfus 'so much that conditions echoed the infamous ozone hole the FORMS ANNUALY over the opposite side of the planet, the Antarctic, scientists say.' quote taken from the vid write up, also 'are annual events during the poles' respective winters'
yet here you are cock jockey extreme, telling me its manmade, then calling ME a moron!?!? go find some lego or an xbox 360 to play with you dick!
whackitov 2 months ago
@whackitov The 'hole' in the ozone layer does change naturally. The man man hole was caused by Human introduced gasses. There are still countries where the 'hole', causes problems.
The panic over nothing was a real problem which was solved you idiot, so now there is no problem,
Don't attack me, attack peer reveiwed science that called for, and banned the gasses, you stupid dumb fuckwit.
mcwolfus 2 months ago
@mcwolfus so what are you trying to tell me, there is a natural hole AND a man made hole? which hole fits in which hole?......didnt find you lego did you?.....fkn brain donor.
whackitov 2 months ago
@whackitov No, there is manmade ozone depletion on top of the natural fluxtuations. Even wikipedia will inform you of the basics. Nothing to do with lego mr troll
mcwolfus 2 months ago
@mcwolfus earth has gone from being mostly tropics, to mostly frozen tundra countless times, all well documented and supported, life doesn't end as is attested to by the fact that life still exists. mans seeming attachment to disaster scenario's knows no bounds, in face of the evidence, life on earth continues, and will continue long after we have gone. panic over something that man has no control over if you want too, but the 'drama' is akin to a need for eastenders,
whackitov 2 months ago
@whackitov The ozone layer damage is manmade, nothing to do with panic or east fucking enders, just a fact. Mans produced and released gasses over decades which punched a hole in a thin protective layer.
If you cant get your head round that fact, you must be stoned/stupid/ill, or a troll.
mcwolfus 2 months ago
@mcwolfus i will repeat just once more for your benefit as you are obviously cranially challenged, the above video write up states "conditions echoed the infamous **>>>>>ozone hole that forms annually<<<<<<<<<** over the opposite side of the planet, the Antarctic scientists say". ive highlighted the part you are obviously having difficulty with so that you cant possibly miss it, it says the hole forms annually, which means it happens every year, a hole, thats me done with you.
whackitov 2 months ago
@whackitov >>>>Countries agreed to end their production of the substances ultimately responsible for destruction of the ozone in 1987 with the Montreal Protocol. However, these pollutants, including chlorofluorocarbons, still linger in the atmosphere<<<<
Why dont you fuck off to a conspiracy or a cannabis growing site.
mcwolfus 2 months ago
@mcwolfus mate you are the one who cannot get their grey matter together enough to form a coherent sentence, and you have the gall to suggest IM a pothead?? you are the one buying bullshit science, not I, do you not realise that since the 30's science has become much less about science, and more about finding the answer that those funding the research want to hear? its hardly conducive to a world of facts, but more geared to "we'll confirm whatever you want if the price is right" TWP!
whackitov 2 months ago
@whackitov Take your rantings and write a letter to the establishments who phased out ozone depleting gasses in the 90s, and tell them whatever.
Then go to a conspiracy site, this isnt one incase you hadnt noticed.
mcwolfus 2 months ago
@whackitov so...what did you say your purpose in life was other than being good asswipe?
TheModerator79 2 months ago
current CO2 levels are at 390 ppm and rising. it wont be long before antarctica begins to thaw as fast as greenland currently is, which btw is rising out of the sea at a rate of 1 inch per year. when antarctica thaws enough it too will rise out of the sea. it is connected to every tectonic plate around the world and will crack the earths crust. this isnt doomsday bull, this is science, and quite likely the worse threat facing mankind.
vengencefrom1979 5 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 did the icecaps melt in the 1800's? no, yet measurements of co2 in the atmosphere were as high as 400 ppm back then, which correlates with the amount of coal burned during the industrial revolution....this WHOLE planet is carbon based, do you realise how ridiculous the argument that co2 is damaging the earth sounds??
whackitov 2 months ago
@whackitov i've heard that rumor before, and i believe that it is exactly that, a rumor. technology in the 1800's nowheres matches todays in measuring co2. accurate measurements, from more than a hundred years ago, verified, dont exist.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 the Pettenkofer process was the standard analytical method for determining atmospheric carbon dioxide levels between 1812 and 1958 (ish) had an accuracy of within 3%.....400ppm -3% =388, 400+3%=412ppm.....hardly miles out where they? but yeah, somehow your idea of measurements taken at the poles from ice core samples MUST more accurately reflect actual levels than measurements taken in city centers during the 1800's...do you realise how silly it sounds?
whackitov 2 months ago
@whackitov do you realize how silly it sounds that every scientist in the world states that co2 is rising and that it wasnt at 400 ppm back in the 1800's? it is not verifiable and was most likely a fluke (downwind from the coal plants maybe). stick with co2 measured by ice core samples.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 i still do not and probably wont ever be convinced that an indirect method could be somehow more reliable than a direct one.....its like saying isaac newton didnt know his stuff simply because he was born in the 1600's.....these are recognised fully qualified scientists, you brush them off with a swipe of your hand because something new and convincing comes along? i trust you have a better understanding of chemistry than petenkoffer?
whackitov 2 months ago
@whacked what could your scientists possibly have to cite that corroborates their hypothesis? snowflakes in wyoming? the so called scandal over tree ring data which was harped on by the media and nick named climate gate? what i have found is that more you dig the more lies you find coming from the right wing. nothing but lies, steeped in folklore, fairytales and superstitious bull. i wont miss the neo-cons one bit and good riddance to their whole party which has become corrupt with oil monies.
TheModerator79 2 months ago
@TheModerator79 as ive stated in response to others who like to dismiss it as 'right wing fantasy'....it is based on scientific data not disneyland if you wish to view some of this data and conflicting scientific opinion then see w w w(dot)kokopelli(dot)asso(dot)fr/climat/analyse(dot)dioxyde(dot)pdf then get back to me with your wild generalisations
whackitov 2 months ago
@whackitov you can cite as many scientists as you want but if the sample of air which was tested more than a hundred years ago is in question and there is no corroborating evidence then what you are dealing with is a fluke. much like the people that claimed to have found 'cold' fusion, a fluke and not reproducible in the lab. grow up for christs sake and learn some real science. you are a waste of skin.
TheModerator79 2 months ago
@TheModerator79 lol! i can quote as much science as i want and you will STILL not accept it....... thank you for admitting that you are a mindless twunt incapable of independent thought and powers of reason....it is funny how historically co2 levels have fluctuated, co2 fluctuates seasonally, yet the ipcc comes along with the 'creasing iron of global warming' and you buy it hook line and sinker....you are a waste of words
whackitov 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 p.s....its not a rumour, but ACTUAL SCIENCE reflecting SCIENTIFIC measurements uning the SCIENTIFIC process.....slightly more than a rumour my friend, you may not believe it, but that does not make it fairy dust
whackitov 2 months ago
just want to make the point, Do you Realy think that this isnt being taken care of?Do you think they Dont care? Do you think they would sit back and watch Us wreck this Planet to the Point of No return? Do you thiNK
smiles1969able 5 months ago
This was in French msm yesterday, even. Thank you for this.
slobomotion 5 months ago