Those numbers can't be right 132 mph of clubhead speed and distance 295 yards with that clubheadspeed he should hit the ball 350 + and with that ballspeed too.
@f0cusen Ball speed is what counts, but yeah he should be hitting it further with 180 mph ball speed. Its possible to create that same ball speed with 118 mph club head. The only thing that i can come up with on why tiger does this is that he wants to carry the ball a certain distance or he wants to know the exact max distance. He creates a ton of spin with a low launch, not really ideal for max distance.
@tadaa11 Yeaah but highclubhead speed creates high ballspeed either the data is wrong the numbers are incorrect because that smashfactor is really bad tiger does not have a spinny ball flight he launches the ball pretty high with 2600-2900 RPM I don't know this but I think he does it.
@f0cusen They show the trajectory on this video, 7.4 degrees. This swing and data is old. His club head speed now is down to 118-120 with the same 180mph ball speed. He does like a higher spin rate around 3,000 rpm, which is high for his ball speed.
@tadaa11 His spin rate is not that high. No one's spin rate is that high on tour maybe someone has a high spin rate but its uncommon. When I was doing a clubfitting the guy who works with customfitting said that Tiger's spin rate was pretty darn good and that should be around 2500-2800
@f0cusen Your clubfitter was talking out of his ass. When your launch angle is 7.5, you have to spin the ball or it wont carry far enough. Type TIGER WOODS SPIN RATE into gooogle and go to the first website from rotary golf. They have an article from the golf world mag talking about tigers smash factor and spin, 3,118rpm average. There are a lot of guys on tour that have app 3,000 spin rate. High club head speed plus the correct angle of attack and center contact creates high ball speed.
If he turned his hips anymore, he could pee on the crowd behind him. These announcers are so full of crap. Restricting the hips in the back swing is the last thing anyone should think about. Tiger rotating his hips like in this video is the reason he can create so much power. Most people have never experienced what a properly struck golf ball feels like, because they have tight hips.
@tadaa11 You should not get to much hip rotation in the backswing like he said if you don't do that you can get alot of seperation between the hips and the shoulders and you will get alot of lag too.
@f0cusen I agree that there is such a thing as to much hip rotation because it creates to much depth in the swing which can cause a hook. I have to disagree with the lag part. Tiger has perfect hip rotation with good lag. Vijay Sing has a ton of hip rotation with a ton of lag. Bobby Jones and Ben Hogan both had really to much hip rotation and to much lag, if there is such a thing. If you rotate your hips properly its almost impossible to throw the club from the top. Sway=cast,IMHO.
@tadaa11 I did not say that you can't generate lag if you have a big hipturn in the backswing. Vijay does not have more lag than Tiger but has alot. Bubba turns his hips pretty much in the backswing but he creates really much lag and a ton of seperation between his hips and his shoulders and he has amazing width in the backswing but the last thing he unwinds is his shoulders and he does it late hence the great amount of seperation he creates between his upper body and lower body.
@f0cusen Yeah i think we sort of agree. I just hate it when these announcers say things that are useless. Restricting your hips is a terrible swing thought for 99% of folks. Most people cant turn their hips properly so they stand up in the back swing instead of loading into the right side.
Yea, you're completely correct.. I hit up a Launch monitor the other day and swang at 118 mph that created a ball speed of 172..(and I didn't even make the most SOLID contact) Tiger Woods can probably only crank up to about 125 club head speed, but it's mostly his technology, launch angle, and spin rate that allows him to hit it EVEN further
I saw another driver stats of Tiger that said 139mph head speed and only 186mph ball speed. Greg Owen and John Daly needed 110mph and 106mph head speed to generate 186mph ball speed respectively. If these stats of Tiger were true, then either he was using very grungy driver or had very weak body strength. For Tiger's sake, the stats got to be wrong.
@adocyu I think you're right. Approximately the ball speed will equal 150% the club-head speed. So 100mph club-head speed, will generate 150mph ball-speed.
@rorybaby well said.. 150% of the swing-speed! ;) .. would be more correct, and I'm sure Tiger is perfectly fit to his equipment, so his spin-rate, shaft flex points..etc are surely correct also. So maybe the Minolta Swing Vision is wrong? Doubtful!.. I thought the trajectory (7.4')?? Isn't 11' the desired launch angle? Maybe this is why his ball-speed doesn't reflect his swing-speed..
My understanding is that he is one-half Thai, one-fourth Black, one-eighth Chinese, and one-eighth Native American, and a little Caucasian got in there, somehow. But, no matter, the general picture is the same. Tiger has stated in public that "I am proud to be African American and Asian American." At any rate, I think that he is a perfect picture of the 21st Century, in living technicolor!
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mat562 5 months ago
Those numbers can't be right 132 mph of clubhead speed and distance 295 yards with that clubheadspeed he should hit the ball 350 + and with that ballspeed too.
f0cusen 7 months ago
@f0cusen Ball speed is what counts, but yeah he should be hitting it further with 180 mph ball speed. Its possible to create that same ball speed with 118 mph club head. The only thing that i can come up with on why tiger does this is that he wants to carry the ball a certain distance or he wants to know the exact max distance. He creates a ton of spin with a low launch, not really ideal for max distance.
tadaa11 7 months ago
@tadaa11 Yeaah but highclubhead speed creates high ballspeed either the data is wrong the numbers are incorrect because that smashfactor is really bad tiger does not have a spinny ball flight he launches the ball pretty high with 2600-2900 RPM I don't know this but I think he does it.
f0cusen 7 months ago
@f0cusen They show the trajectory on this video, 7.4 degrees. This swing and data is old. His club head speed now is down to 118-120 with the same 180mph ball speed. He does like a higher spin rate around 3,000 rpm, which is high for his ball speed.
tadaa11 7 months ago
@tadaa11 His spin rate is not that high. No one's spin rate is that high on tour maybe someone has a high spin rate but its uncommon. When I was doing a clubfitting the guy who works with customfitting said that Tiger's spin rate was pretty darn good and that should be around 2500-2800
f0cusen 7 months ago
@f0cusen Your clubfitter was talking out of his ass. When your launch angle is 7.5, you have to spin the ball or it wont carry far enough. Type TIGER WOODS SPIN RATE into gooogle and go to the first website from rotary golf. They have an article from the golf world mag talking about tigers smash factor and spin, 3,118rpm average. There are a lot of guys on tour that have app 3,000 spin rate. High club head speed plus the correct angle of attack and center contact creates high ball speed.
tadaa11 7 months ago
If he turned his hips anymore, he could pee on the crowd behind him. These announcers are so full of crap. Restricting the hips in the back swing is the last thing anyone should think about. Tiger rotating his hips like in this video is the reason he can create so much power. Most people have never experienced what a properly struck golf ball feels like, because they have tight hips.
tadaa11 9 months ago
@tadaa11 You should not get to much hip rotation in the backswing like he said if you don't do that you can get alot of seperation between the hips and the shoulders and you will get alot of lag too.
f0cusen 7 months ago
@f0cusen I agree that there is such a thing as to much hip rotation because it creates to much depth in the swing which can cause a hook. I have to disagree with the lag part. Tiger has perfect hip rotation with good lag. Vijay Sing has a ton of hip rotation with a ton of lag. Bobby Jones and Ben Hogan both had really to much hip rotation and to much lag, if there is such a thing. If you rotate your hips properly its almost impossible to throw the club from the top. Sway=cast,IMHO.
tadaa11 7 months ago
@tadaa11 I did not say that you can't generate lag if you have a big hipturn in the backswing. Vijay does not have more lag than Tiger but has alot. Bubba turns his hips pretty much in the backswing but he creates really much lag and a ton of seperation between his hips and his shoulders and he has amazing width in the backswing but the last thing he unwinds is his shoulders and he does it late hence the great amount of seperation he creates between his upper body and lower body.
f0cusen 7 months ago
@f0cusen Yeah i think we sort of agree. I just hate it when these announcers say things that are useless. Restricting your hips is a terrible swing thought for 99% of folks. Most people cant turn their hips properly so they stand up in the back swing instead of loading into the right side.
tadaa11 7 months ago
their numbers are correct, the ball speed is low because the ignite driver sucks.
proslayar 3 years ago
the launch monitor is wrong, if his club head speed is 132 then his ball speed should be around 198. His swing speed is closer to 120ish range
rorybaby 4 years ago
Yea, you're completely correct.. I hit up a Launch monitor the other day and swang at 118 mph that created a ball speed of 172..(and I didn't even make the most SOLID contact) Tiger Woods can probably only crank up to about 125 club head speed, but it's mostly his technology, launch angle, and spin rate that allows him to hit it EVEN further
Danqb08 4 years ago
I saw another driver stats of Tiger that said 139mph head speed and only 186mph ball speed. Greg Owen and John Daly needed 110mph and 106mph head speed to generate 186mph ball speed respectively. If these stats of Tiger were true, then either he was using very grungy driver or had very weak body strength. For Tiger's sake, the stats got to be wrong.
adocyu 4 years ago
@adocyu I think you're right. Approximately the ball speed will equal 150% the club-head speed. So 100mph club-head speed, will generate 150mph ball-speed.
shawlerstyle 1 year ago
@rorybaby well said.. 150% of the swing-speed! ;) .. would be more correct, and I'm sure Tiger is perfectly fit to his equipment, so his spin-rate, shaft flex points..etc are surely correct also. So maybe the Minolta Swing Vision is wrong? Doubtful!.. I thought the trajectory (7.4')?? Isn't 11' the desired launch angle? Maybe this is why his ball-speed doesn't reflect his swing-speed..
shawlerstyle 1 year ago
golfers smell like poo
Evry1lovesmegadeth 5 years ago
well sonnyjake, you're the wank for not caring about other ethnic groups. there are intelligent races besides your own, take note of that.
leoseanster 5 years ago
I thought he is just American,all your bollocks about half this and quarter that is complete wank.
sonnyjake 5 years ago
AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa
BoBcatPoPdog 3 years ago
@sonnyjake
but his grandfathers first cousins sisters friend was Irish...
shawlerstyle 1 year ago
well he got low trajectory b/c his loft of his club is low, and that he teed it alot lower. amazing how he just pipes it
sportsman214 5 years ago
I've been watching Tiger ever since he was a kid. The man's half Asian American and half African American. Is that the 21st century or what?
dennisflanders0707 5 years ago
are you sure you have?
he is actually one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter African, one-eighth Native American, and one-eighth Dutch.
mepatrick 5 years ago
My understanding is that he is one-half Thai, one-fourth Black, one-eighth Chinese, and one-eighth Native American, and a little Caucasian got in there, somehow. But, no matter, the general picture is the same. Tiger has stated in public that "I am proud to be African American and Asian American." At any rate, I think that he is a perfect picture of the 21st Century, in living technicolor!
dennisflanders0707 5 years ago
I wonder how, at that speed, he got such a low launch angle.
hisairness2340 5 years ago
great vid. thanks.
v3dude 5 years ago