Well explained, but I wouldn't say to not turn your body but rather do not turn your uppper body. If you turn your hips early(like all pros do) your club will drop the inside, your shoulders will stay back, and like he shows and you will create lag.
just unwind from ur feet up, and let it happen! Pretend ur throwing a ball underarm, its the same kinda motion. 'Throw" the clubhead out with ur right hand.
Great video, he validates Mr. Hogans sequence of movement for starting the downswing, most people will start the backswing by turning all of their weight on the back foot and pivoting back to the left for downswing and will slice the sh%t oof the ball all day. The sequece he mentioned is critical
You are so right about most folks not getting a good back turn...a good backswing should have the lumbar or lower part of the spine toward the target while the thoractic and cervical spine are angled away from the target, this is the "ass toward the target" position as you described above. This is a very powerful position to hit ball.
So if the lag is true, Newton's law applies to everything in the Universe but GOLF?...I don't think so, This teaching method is inpart why the average scores aren't getting any better.
Average scores aren't improving because golf courses are getting harder with time. Courses are longer, rough is longer, greens are faster. they never putted on greens that were 11-12 on the meter back in the day. F=ma. Acceleration being the key, and with lag you get more of that creating more force. Looks like someone didn't pass Physics 101. Get real info before you start saying other people are wrong.
but courses are getting harder because equipment is getting better, more power, more accuracy and better consistency. Imagine playing a golf course in 1950 with a brand new taylormade set.... youd destroy the course.
about is a result of lack of shoulder turn at the top, and lack of lower body movement down, it has nothing to do with the lack of artificially maintaining any wrist angle.
This BS has been taught ever since people started analyzing Ben Hogan in still pictures.
This is funny to me, there CAN NOT be an artificial "lag" in a the wrist if you ever intend to hit a straight ball. If the wrists cock all the way up, they must uncock all the way down to arrive at the same place they started from. Newton's 3rd law states: For every action, there is an opposite reaction.
Jack Nicklaus himself said in Golf My way "As long as my lower body is moving towards the target, my wrist can't uncock too soon".
The over the top motion that this instructor is talking
only if the wrists uncock at the same speed on the way down, you can uncock them at the bottom at a later time if you do it fast. and plus newtons 3rd law doesn't apply to the downswing because there is such a thing called GRAVITY and DIFFERENT SPEED
I agree. Sounds like hempster doesn't play golf. Lag is real. You only need to watch a good player swing to see it. Lag adds power and speed because it forces you to whip the clubhead through the ball, like somebody snapping a towel on hempster's ass.
Too much lag can be a bad thing. hempster is right. If you consciously try to hold the wrist cocked on the downswing you are going to slice it because of an open clubface. Let lag happen naturally.
Lag comes naturally if the backswing pivot like 1969theo said where the right leg is braced.And then the downswing must be initiated by HIP turns laterally a bit and followed by rotation and arms will fall naturally into IN to OUT path(Hitting slot).To understand right leg brace type "Swingscope" and also type "Creating Space for Pivot"
For me to create lag I think of my arms as part of the shaft and (mentally) they bend backwards (like the shaft) as I'm coming down. Also I try to keep my back facing the target for as long as possible on the downswing. (all you need is a split second)
lag comes from creating the space 1st in the backswing,check this guys pivot!as he turns his shoulders in the backswing,pay attention to his hips also rotating so at the top of backswing,there is the space needed to drop the arms down in the forward swing,most recreational golfers dont pivot this way, they slide the hips,if you rotate the hips this way its easier to sequence,tiger does it also,contrary to popular belief,lag comes easy if you have the space needed!
Lag helps create power in a golfswing tubeofgreatness, look at all the long hitters on the PGA tour. Woods, Howell III, Bubba Watson. they create there power from 1 thing. Angle Retention. That goes as far back as Ben Hogan, A small guy who create big power. Sergio garcia very similar positions in Transition of golf swing. check it out.
very true. hes strong enough that he can take the other approach. lag is for people who arent 98% muscle. hell im 128 pounds, but SUPER flexible and i avg 280-290. i have angle retention in my hands. but also in my hips, where alot of people dont.
Yes, you're right wrist angle retention is the key because this allows the club shaft to be stressed on the downswing. Maintaining wrist angle is also crucial to keeping the club on plane. I, too, am not a big fella, 5'9" 178lbs and I can stick a 5 iron 190 yds and I average 280 yds of the tee
you just have to get separation between your hips and hands and then BAM there's the distance. look at Anthony Kim in slow motion and you'll get what im talking about.
what a bunch of useless crap.. listen to it.. it all means nothing. what creates speed and distance is how fast your upper body pivots around your center of gravity, how fast your arms swing around your upper body, and how fast the club swings around your arms. get the most efficient combination and you get the greatest whip effect
Useless crap? Hardly. You're oversimplifying, leaving out plane, path, on-center contact, and other factors; you're posing the question as merely the creation of raw power and speed in no particular plane and in no particular harmony with the way the club and the body have to interact, how the body is best arranged to deliver that power on the right path and plane, what muscles and/or sequence of movement tend to throw the application out of whack no matter how much raw power is created, etc.
Pause at 1.50
You have no ass.
Thanks for the tip tho
ytailscom 1 year ago 11
thanks for the tips, deffinately helped to explain a few things!
TheVJay91 2 years ago
I had "over the top-itis" for many years.The cure is a tight coil on the backswing by turning the shoulders against the hips resistance.
rw5791 2 years ago
Well explained, but I wouldn't say to not turn your body but rather do not turn your uppper body. If you turn your hips early(like all pros do) your club will drop the inside, your shoulders will stay back, and like he shows and you will create lag.
Aphazael 2 years ago 2
Right - You can not get the club inside and then swing from the inside to out if you do not move your hips on the backswing and downswing.
secrettogolf 1 year ago
Men, you are good. You know what are you talking about.
Thanks
Comunburro 2 years ago
hi. thx for the tip. i knew about this all along but you explained it much clearer. When i am at the range the next time, i will try it on....
thx again
AuraSlicer 2 years ago
wait, what is power again? and he forgot to mention control
theestrogenius 2 years ago
Well explained, clear and simple to understand.
When I am at the top of the backswing I just want to throw everything at the ball- it looks and feels horrible, and the results are worse.
But I am working on it, and it will take time.
goldenstar9 2 years ago
yeh the downswing always gets me. I never know how to do it properly.
martinalexandrov 2 years ago
just unwind from ur feet up, and let it happen! Pretend ur throwing a ball underarm, its the same kinda motion. 'Throw" the clubhead out with ur right hand.
bensta690 2 years ago
Great video, he validates Mr. Hogans sequence of movement for starting the downswing, most people will start the backswing by turning all of their weight on the back foot and pivoting back to the left for downswing and will slice the sh%t oof the ball all day. The sequece he mentioned is critical
brown547 2 years ago
Effortless power versus powerless effort. Many thanks for such good advice that has helped me so much.
slkeays 2 years ago
What a great swing, easy effortless power. Never get tired of watching this.
justjames1111 2 years ago
Most people dont get a good back turn with their ass toward the target. They turn a very little so they end up just using arm power.
jdotson 2 years ago
You are so right about most folks not getting a good back turn...a good backswing should have the lumbar or lower part of the spine toward the target while the thoractic and cervical spine are angled away from the target, this is the "ass toward the target" position as you described above. This is a very powerful position to hit ball.
brown547 2 years ago
I think the sequence he mentioned is critical.
MikePedersenGolfTips 2 years ago
Good instructions, nice looking swing to.
joshua7473 2 years ago
This guy would be an incredible coach to have, i mean seriously his swing is great and he knows what hes talking about for sure.
Bobobidodo 2 years ago
try not to try Your friend MOmentum will uncock if you can Trust it and Bust it a lite grip helps relax the shoulders and arms
This is good stuff
ay7650 3 years ago
dude this guy got some fuckin bad sun burn
LKskateNC 3 years ago
LOL! Right on! I guess his sunburn shows how much of a crazed golfer he must be.
racaroc 3 years ago
that is because u suck..
mrgroovies 3 years ago
So if the lag is true, Newton's law applies to everything in the Universe but GOLF?...I don't think so, This teaching method is inpart why the average scores aren't getting any better.
hempster 3 years ago
Average scores aren't improving because golf courses are getting harder with time. Courses are longer, rough is longer, greens are faster. they never putted on greens that were 11-12 on the meter back in the day. F=ma. Acceleration being the key, and with lag you get more of that creating more force. Looks like someone didn't pass Physics 101. Get real info before you start saying other people are wrong.
spynldoc 2 years ago
but courses are getting harder because equipment is getting better, more power, more accuracy and better consistency. Imagine playing a golf course in 1950 with a brand new taylormade set.... youd destroy the course.
AceGuitarR7 2 years ago
but look how much lag sergio garcia gets, number three in the world, i think hes pretty good...
golfpro020591 2 years ago
but he has never won with that swing in a major.
jordanmassey 2 years ago
nethertheless, the fact that he has got to number three, surely shows hes talented...
golfpro020591 2 years ago
thats just his putting though
CAsHizZ 2 years ago
what's a fairway wood?
cave78456 2 years ago
about is a result of lack of shoulder turn at the top, and lack of lower body movement down, it has nothing to do with the lack of artificially maintaining any wrist angle.
This BS has been taught ever since people started analyzing Ben Hogan in still pictures.
This is a MYTH.
hempster 3 years ago
This is funny to me, there CAN NOT be an artificial "lag" in a the wrist if you ever intend to hit a straight ball. If the wrists cock all the way up, they must uncock all the way down to arrive at the same place they started from. Newton's 3rd law states: For every action, there is an opposite reaction.
Jack Nicklaus himself said in Golf My way "As long as my lower body is moving towards the target, my wrist can't uncock too soon".
The over the top motion that this instructor is talking
hempster 3 years ago
only if the wrists uncock at the same speed on the way down, you can uncock them at the bottom at a later time if you do it fast. and plus newtons 3rd law doesn't apply to the downswing because there is such a thing called GRAVITY and DIFFERENT SPEED
bumblesbounce54321 3 years ago
If you delay the uncocking< good luck hitting it straight
hempster 3 years ago
only if you suck. i hit it straight and i have lag. its just a matter of practice and timing.
bumblesbounce54321 3 years ago
I agree. Sounds like hempster doesn't play golf. Lag is real. You only need to watch a good player swing to see it. Lag adds power and speed because it forces you to whip the clubhead through the ball, like somebody snapping a towel on hempster's ass.
racaroc 3 years ago
Too much lag can be a bad thing. hempster is right. If you consciously try to hold the wrist cocked on the downswing you are going to slice it because of an open clubface. Let lag happen naturally.
JimHalpert3 2 years ago
Too much water is a bad thing too.
racaroc 2 years ago
Looks like he's doing a cast move in video
brown547 3 years ago
Lag comes naturally if the backswing pivot like 1969theo said where the right leg is braced.And then the downswing must be initiated by HIP turns laterally a bit and followed by rotation and arms will fall naturally into IN to OUT path(Hitting slot).To understand right leg brace type "Swingscope" and also type "Creating Space for Pivot"
rysayt69 3 years ago
For me to create lag I think of my arms as part of the shaft and (mentally) they bend backwards (like the shaft) as I'm coming down. Also I try to keep my back facing the target for as long as possible on the downswing. (all you need is a split second)
FairwayJack 3 years ago
The real problem is that most "amateurs" do, IN FACT, what you called it... a "downswing" which you don't seem to do.
SwingJetics Research (c).
SwingJetics 3 years ago
lag comes from creating the space 1st in the backswing,check this guys pivot!as he turns his shoulders in the backswing,pay attention to his hips also rotating so at the top of backswing,there is the space needed to drop the arms down in the forward swing,most recreational golfers dont pivot this way, they slide the hips,if you rotate the hips this way its easier to sequence,tiger does it also,contrary to popular belief,lag comes easy if you have the space needed!
1969theo 3 years ago
Lag helps create power in a golfswing tubeofgreatness, look at all the long hitters on the PGA tour. Woods, Howell III, Bubba Watson. they create there power from 1 thing. Angle Retention. That goes as far back as Ben Hogan, A small guy who create big power. Sergio garcia very similar positions in Transition of golf swing. check it out.
oddyseus91 4 years ago
well no. jason zuback, multiple world long drive champion has very little 'angle retention'
pecky1234 3 years ago
very true. hes strong enough that he can take the other approach. lag is for people who arent 98% muscle. hell im 128 pounds, but SUPER flexible and i avg 280-290. i have angle retention in my hands. but also in my hips, where alot of people dont.
cashmoney13337 3 years ago
Yes, you're right wrist angle retention is the key because this allows the club shaft to be stressed on the downswing. Maintaining wrist angle is also crucial to keeping the club on plane. I, too, am not a big fella, 5'9" 178lbs and I can stick a 5 iron 190 yds and I average 280 yds of the tee
brown547 3 years ago
you just have to get separation between your hips and hands and then BAM there's the distance. look at Anthony Kim in slow motion and you'll get what im talking about.
bumblesbounce54321 3 years ago
if i turned my leg like that, i think tiger woods and my dad would kill me xD
nikesumogolfer 4 years ago
what a bunch of useless crap.. listen to it.. it all means nothing. what creates speed and distance is how fast your upper body pivots around your center of gravity, how fast your arms swing around your upper body, and how fast the club swings around your arms. get the most efficient combination and you get the greatest whip effect
tubeofgreatness 4 years ago
Useless crap? Hardly. You're oversimplifying, leaving out plane, path, on-center contact, and other factors; you're posing the question as merely the creation of raw power and speed in no particular plane and in no particular harmony with the way the club and the body have to interact, how the body is best arranged to deliver that power on the right path and plane, what muscles and/or sequence of movement tend to throw the application out of whack no matter how much raw power is created, etc.
emncaity 3 years ago
very helpful . thanks
gabsmabs 4 years ago