Soliton Wave in a Bose-Einstein Condensate

[Frisbieinstein]

Actually, the cores of neutron stars are superfluid coherent matter, so they are quite similar to Bose-Einstein condensates.

[skating0813]

@FizzyWodawg * with AN algorithmic mind* ;)

[oicub2]

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[oicub2]

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[fuunguus]

@FizzyWodawg Hehe. I got 129, and it said I was smarter than 90% of the population in my country, I don't feel that smart at all...

[600Kilowatts]

This is too easy, (x = alpha - omega).

[miceskin]

I am going to go out on a limb and say that anyone who looks up "soliton wave in a Bose Einstein condensate " in their free time has to have at least an above average IQ. . . . . not that it matters. Xp

[Nish2280]

Everyone on the internet has a IQ above 130...

Well at least thats what they claim...

[UnderManiac]

@Nish2280 Damn, my IQ is 129...

[Frisbieinstein]

@Nish2280 Everyone is above average. Scientific fact.

[guyboy625]

@Frisbieinstein No, it's just that more people with above average IQ are on the internet than people below average.

[Frisbieinstein]

@guyboy625 No no no. It's the Woebegon effect. Proved by science.

[bhngat]

i dont undestand this...

[multitasker235]

That almost looks like evidence for string theory.

[Vire70]

The only thing IQ conclusively shows is that:

A) the people who actually give it any merit are the real retards

and B) peoples obsession with labeling everything, even down to intelligence, something that is barely even able to be coherently defined and yet people think they can accurately quantify it. Arrogant, naive and ridiculous.

[tarkuk]

Yeah, and I mean, come on, gangs30 didn't even capitolize his i's.

[MrMrBio]

You know, arguing on the internet is very similar to competing in the Special Olympics, even if you win you're still retarded.

[jdavis417]

I reminded of Dave's entry into the monolith (or where/when ever he went) in the motion picture 2001. "My God, it's full of stars!" Or maybe 2010, "What? What's going to happen?", "Something wonderful".

[praska12]

we just learned this in chemistry :0

[pivotgurl]

what grade we're you in 5 months ago... If your in high school i'm jealous.

[praska12]

i was in the 9th grade

:D

[pivotgurl]

yup, im jealous. My chem teacher told me there was no such thing as a Bose-Einstein condensate. I wish my chem teacher was like your chem teacher.

[lamboboy013]

what the hell does this mean

[blkweb80]

This would solve more than an energy crisis. This has multiple applications, like quantum computing.

[emanym]

Please, go into more detail.

[ActiveStorage]

how its gonna solve the energy crisis we need so much energy just to produce this condensate in a tiny trap lol

[konman001]

lol....and you would have to train guys to handle it in a dark room...cuz light rays ruin the stuff.

[ActiveStorage]

tho a theoretical knowledge based on these experiments can be useful.. so in some way he's right about "solving problems" i guess

[konman001]

Yeah I guess that could be true. . .but it could be a tagline that a scientist could use in order to buy bigger, more expensive toys to play with in his/her lab :-)

[ActiveStorage]

truesay. When Galileo or Newton and alchemists were around science was pushed forward by people's will to discover the great unknown. Now science is pushed (or better say dragged) by money, business and capital. Less and less people are actually doing science these days.. and those few who do, think they already know everything. which is plain sad

[futuremath08]

I am not a scientist, but I am interested in the idea of superconductivity. Is this where we need to look to solve the energy crisis? I know there's not supposed to be a "perpetual motion machine", but it would seem to that a circuit made of a superconducting material would come close. Please do not make fun of my simplistic analysis.

[skengdaddyscully]

tbh, im 14 and i only have an iq 144, but i would say we should never delve into the depths of relating superconductors at unregulated temperatures, because in the world we live in, an e-bomb would be inevitible in building, and the world wouldnt be the same forever.

[ActiveStorage]

judging ur mental and intellectual capacities by a mathematical numbers retrieved from a pure abstract, geometrical and logic test is plain stupid. You are not a fucking robot you know. Plus our minds are constantly changing. (by no means i encourage you to take those iq tests over and over again to prove my point lol) IQ=pure evil that puts ur head into a rigid mathematical cage

[fredwacko40]

and an e-bomb wouldnt be possible at regulated temperatures??

[klsjafksjdfklsdfjkls]

Don't be such a modest asshole.. "I only have an IQ of 144. I'm the biggest retard alive!"  Jesus Christ.

[skengdaddyscully]

i never said i was a retard, but I dont have an outstanding IQ in the scheme of things seeing as i my mind is no where near the capabilities of some members who seem to be on this page. sorry if i offended you by being true to what I thought was low.

[gangs30]

lol i suggest you learn grammar before improving on your IQ, which is tremendously high, apparently..

for instance, what kind of sentence is "and the world wouldnt be the same forever. "

considering the wisdom you possess at 14, speaking like a Nobel laureate, i expect better..

[wichertdies]

and as for heisenberg, it's not correct, simply put :)

sure, maybe it works when the system is chaotic, but at these temperatures, there's nothing uncertain about it, its blatantly within a given spacial location, I really suggest getting into research in this field, the applications are endless, once we overcome the whole 'most unstable thing in the universe' thing

[ErrYeahNF]

I wouldn't discredit Heisenberg all-together, but I understand what you are saying with the inability to apply laws at this new level, it is changing the outlook of the quantum level all-together. I sat through a lecture of a physicist who said that at this level of thermal low atoms actually begin to stretch out like putty until they lace over each other. They are creating a computer using BEC aren't they? The ability to slow light down to 12 mi/h blows my mind.

[wichertdies]

I definitely agree with that. The whole fact that something so strange as controlling the density of something that looks to be one atom, but turns out that it's an entire collection of atoms, its changing everything. Light speed controls are something we'll have to really get figured out, because creating a computer to accurately describe this stuff requires a formula or math that doesn't exist (or hasn't been discovered). Truly, this is the next big thing in science.

[emanym]

Oh heisenberg still applies. The thing about B.E.C is it is not blatatently within a given spacial location. It is not even blatently a single density. Maybe I'm missing something. I am very much an amature when it comes to this stuff.

[wichertdies]

I'm saying that the BEC stretches the heisenberg principle to its limits, and yeah I do have a little bit of an idea of how this works, i'm doing research on it as we speak :P all that schroedinger's equation does is puts values within a certain (90) percent. The big principle here is that einstein himself had problems with his prediction because it violates what we understand of things on both the micro and macro levels. this isn't something we can aptly apply old methods, new dog, new tricks:)

[howlinggoat]

Why did I value shrooms and Jack daniels over an education last year lol, I used to love physics :'(. Enjoy your condensates, educations and futures gentlemen; chops away!

[theguy2p]

(to yung235)No its still only 5 phases of matter, fermionic condensate is just another phase.

(to panefuldeath) a supersolid WOULD be another state of matter but its not proven that it can exist.

[GwLDS]

what the hell did wichertdies achully say there i am confused

anyway i wonder how it reacts when you reach absolute zero

[wichertdies]

now think about this for a second.. if matter truly reacts in this way, we can say that even at 0k, we still cannot determine the location of an atom, making heisenburg and most other quantum guys actually wrong, they found a neoclassical approach to a subject that is beyond our understanding. my current research actually gives a viable explanation with the ability to accurately locate an atomic particle in space,

[ErrYeahNF]

I would respectfully disagree. The rule of thumb for location of any given atom is Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle [integrating Planck's Constant], if you are after Determinism than you are barking up the wrong alley, the only suitable representation were Wave Functions and those can't really be equated effectively. Now I would love to see a proof for this equation, but in the mean time why not explain your theory in fully punctuated, grammatically correct, and capitalized paragraph?

[jefforysanders]

fvk a grameer nazi! git ovar it; dumbazz lawl

compromise intelligence with anal nitpicking? genius... overestimation of self is an ugly thing. reel in your useless opinion. it serves no positive purpose here child.

long live sharing ideas without self appointed judge mental experts to save us from ourselves.

peace

[yung235]

its actually SIX states of matter now.

solid

liquid

gas

plasma

bose-einstien condensate

& Fermionic Condensate

[panefuldeath]

What is a supersolid? is that not a seperate form of matter?  or is it another name for one of those 6?

[GarryCollins]

Did anyone think string theory when they saw this?

[chessami92]

don't you understand, there is always an application to something that scientists do

there are tons of things to be done with this

for one thing, computers. cold atoms, not necessarily BEC atoms can be much better than today's computers, and much faster

and an interesting thing is that BEC actually slows down light!!

and nicegaara12345 had it wrong, it doesn't have to me that cold, its one-tenth of one-bilionth of a degree C above absolute zero

[buttchin100]

So at that temperature, the solid coaleses (probably way off on the spelling of that)into, in a sense, a fluid?

[ErrYeahNF]

The five states of matter are;

Solid, Liquid, Gas, Plasma, and Bose-Einstein-Condensate

So no, it isn't a liquid, it's a new state of matter.

[buttchin100]

if you think about it, its not "new" at all. humankind has just started to discover and study it. its out there in the universe somewhere, and has been. and by the way i didn't say liquid, i said "fluid". i'm wondering if the singularity in a black hole could be a bose-einstein condensate, or could the pressure interfere with it becoming this?

[ErrYeahNF]

Because the center of a black hole is a singularity with all matter at critical mass and that does not describe Bose-Einstein-condensate or the conditions required to make it, I'm tempted to say no.

But then, a Bose by any other name... [joke]

Also, a black hole has strong enough gravity to consume matter and light, while Bose dissipates at the site of light, and any friction from matter would heat it up to the point that it would be unable to keep that form. It might be Bose-like, but not same.

[buttchin100]

good point. and also, i didnt know that they dissapate with light. hmm. i was just thinking because the only energy released in the form of heat or anything else (that i know of) is released just at or about a little in from the event horizon. i just that maybe it could be cold in there and also because of the preasure or somthing. (i have no clue what i'm talking about by the way, lol)

[ErrYeahNF]

Ah, lol, a large amount of energy is released as radiation at the event horizon, that's the only reason we know black holes exists. It's just the fact that a singularity doesn't have the properties of Bose-Einstein-Condensate. Plus, if Bose-Einstein-Condensate composed the center of a black hole it wouldn't have as a strong of a gravitational force.

[dlindeman]

perhaps there is the same topology but the gravitational force varies when you dont start with similar mass objects

[ErrYeahNF]

I fail to see how topology applies to it. A certain amount of matter has a certain gravitational force and increases or decreases with that amount equally. I am merely saying that the characteristics of B.E.C. don't match up with the typical characteristics of a 'black hole'.

[RobertWeekes]

@buttchin100 actually, you won't find a bose-einstein condensate anywhere in the universe other than a highly controlled lab. extremely high temperatures and pressures exist in stars and black holes but such low temperatures do not occur in nature due to the extreme sensitivities involved. In fact the singularity of a black hole is exactly the opposite kind of place where you could find bose-einstein condensation in nature.

[SASNIGHTCRAWLER]

@RobertWeekes The BEC is more of how matter and energy become one or should i say how matter resorts to one singular effect rather than individual effects, it becomes a unified state. This i think is a glimpse that matter in its true state is or was energy, and proves that quantum entanglement is this state. It looks to me like energy in its true state is not what we think it is. Energy seems to be a singular state and matter in this state creates the EM waves we see as light frequency waves etc

[DKaplan99]

@RobertWeekes Coherence is the identifying Bose-Einstein condensate characteristic. Laboratory created bose-einstein condensates ( MITWorld physics videos) use cold temperatures and magnetic traps to create BEC. Hameroff--Penrose theory of consciousness discusses Bose-Einstein condensate established through gap junctions in the brain. Meditators/martial arts masters produce coherent alpha patterns. Am continuing to gather evidence to prove BEC in Youtube channel DKaplan99 MRI film.

[nicegaara12345]

its not my fault i dint remeber it correctly douche bag

[Johnz414]

"Taming Gravity" in Popular Mechanics Oct 1999 issue is a good place to start reading up on Dr. Ning Li and her A/C Gravity to see how we're beginning to apply the Bose Einstein Condensate phenomena to technology.

It's also easy reading for getting a hold of and an understanding of the basic phenomena.

Doing a search at the Popular Mechanics site for the article "Taming Gravity" should bring it up for you.

(YouTube unfortunately wont let us post URL links here).

[buttchin100]

i dont understand, wat is this? wat are the properties of this state of matter?

[nicegaara12345]

its a new state of matter its like one one trillionth of a billitonth of a millionth degree above absolut zero

[zebikabiro]

no. im pretty sure its a bit further than that.

[carlosmarinoo]

i cant believe it, the science is the beautifulest thing in the universe (containing the universe in the science)excellent advance in the science impressive!!!

[n9e9o9]

and this benefits mankind how?

[Faridee]

Keeping us out of ignorance, maybe.

[jezuzmcbob]

it will have its benefits in years to come...

eg. the discovery of steel. its everywhere!

[9hello123]

@n9e9o9 People like you make me realise why people commit suicide.

[gibbsies]

what the hell