Although I understand where you're coming from, I sometimes wish people would be more blunt with me. The fact that the clerk was genuinely interested meant that he was comfortable with the topic. If he had been uncomfortable, or if he had discriminative biases, chances are you would have gotten some odd looks and a lot of awkward pauses. I personally prefer when people are open and honest - it kills that feeling of tension that, in my mind, doesn't need to be there.
I agree with this. I find a lot of trans people to be far too sensitive about other people asking them questions. I'd much rather everyone was more open and blasé about these subjects. It shouldn't be a touchy subject for anyone, and perhaps being less sensitive should create some ease on that topic...
I disagree with both of you. His behavior was not out of line because I was "sensitive" about the issue. It is inappropriate for a salesman to ask a customer about their genitalia. Period. It is discrimination NOT because he was prejudice but because he provided lower quality customer service than he would to a cisgender person. Curiosity does NOT grant a person entitlement. What is between someone's legs is their own private business!
Yes, so I suppose you think I should have launched into a long response about the pros and cons of phalloplasty and metoidioplasty and how I feel about the T-growth and how I have sex and how surgery complicates my plans for pregnancy? How the hell am I supposed to answer his question in PUBLIC in a way that would possibly be comfortable for me? I HATE thinking about my lack of a penis. I get upset about it on my own. When I am out running errands I do not want to be reminded of the issue.
Ignorance is contagious...Not knowing, is only showing there fear...People fear what they dont understand...People question what they dont know....People will only be people...Ethan...
Hm.. I think it's more curiosity than discrimation. People do alot of things that aren't professional. Ever been to a bad DMV location? But I do understand what you mean and I completely understand why you would feel that way.But you have to think of it as how special you are. Alot of people won't go what you went through to be who you are now or what you will continue to go through, so people are curious. It is up to you to enlighten or just keep it pushin'. :-D
I disagree. In a professional situation I expect to be treated with the same respect as anyone else. If a white salesman has never seen a black person before, it doesn't matter how curious they are about the texture of the customer's hair they are NOT permitted to touch it. It doesn't matter how curious a salesman is about a customer's penis or vagina he is not allowed to ask them about their genitals. I expect the same courtesy. Anything less IS discrimination.
I thought you would disagree. I'm not going to try to change your mind about what discrimination is according to you and your interpretation of it. People have asked me MANY rude/inappropriate things and most of the time it is sheer human curiosity and not really discrimation. True, they wouldn't do it to the people they see every day because they are accustomed with those people. You're right, he is not permitted to touch, however if he asks & they permit him to touch, then what?
HAHAH so dumb about how if you have a kid it will be a female. Theoretically eggs can be fused together in a lab to make a baby, but it hasn't been done yet. God, why are people so dumb?
lol
I have to tell people that there is no such thing as a penis transplant..
jeremyethan17 2 years ago
So.. How's yours coming along? lol.. That's the kind of thing I would have tried after he asked that. lol.
Genitals aren't a subject that come up during small talk..
jeremyethan17 2 years ago
Although I understand where you're coming from, I sometimes wish people would be more blunt with me. The fact that the clerk was genuinely interested meant that he was comfortable with the topic. If he had been uncomfortable, or if he had discriminative biases, chances are you would have gotten some odd looks and a lot of awkward pauses. I personally prefer when people are open and honest - it kills that feeling of tension that, in my mind, doesn't need to be there.
clstig 2 years ago
I agree with this. I find a lot of trans people to be far too sensitive about other people asking them questions. I'd much rather everyone was more open and blasé about these subjects. It shouldn't be a touchy subject for anyone, and perhaps being less sensitive should create some ease on that topic...
youngwithoutyouth 2 years ago
I disagree with both of you. His behavior was not out of line because I was "sensitive" about the issue. It is inappropriate for a salesman to ask a customer about their genitalia. Period. It is discrimination NOT because he was prejudice but because he provided lower quality customer service than he would to a cisgender person. Curiosity does NOT grant a person entitlement. What is between someone's legs is their own private business!
sillyyetsuccinct 2 years ago
Yes, so I suppose you think I should have launched into a long response about the pros and cons of phalloplasty and metoidioplasty and how I feel about the T-growth and how I have sex and how surgery complicates my plans for pregnancy? How the hell am I supposed to answer his question in PUBLIC in a way that would possibly be comfortable for me? I HATE thinking about my lack of a penis. I get upset about it on my own. When I am out running errands I do not want to be reminded of the issue.
sillyyetsuccinct 2 years ago
hey, do you gonna have a phalloplasty ? ha..ha.. I am FTM too.
naturaljumper 2 years ago
"It comes in the mail next Tuesday"
LMFAO!
murkymidnight 2 years ago 2
Ignorance is contagious...Not knowing, is only showing there fear...People fear what they dont understand...People question what they dont know....People will only be people...Ethan...
DaddiEKC30 2 years ago
Hm.. I think it's more curiosity than discrimation. People do alot of things that aren't professional. Ever been to a bad DMV location? But I do understand what you mean and I completely understand why you would feel that way.But you have to think of it as how special you are. Alot of people won't go what you went through to be who you are now or what you will continue to go through, so people are curious. It is up to you to enlighten or just keep it pushin'. :-D
locamorenanena 2 years ago
I disagree. In a professional situation I expect to be treated with the same respect as anyone else. If a white salesman has never seen a black person before, it doesn't matter how curious they are about the texture of the customer's hair they are NOT permitted to touch it. It doesn't matter how curious a salesman is about a customer's penis or vagina he is not allowed to ask them about their genitals. I expect the same courtesy. Anything less IS discrimination.
sillyyetsuccinct 2 years ago
I thought you would disagree. I'm not going to try to change your mind about what discrimination is according to you and your interpretation of it. People have asked me MANY rude/inappropriate things and most of the time it is sheer human curiosity and not really discrimation. True, they wouldn't do it to the people they see every day because they are accustomed with those people. You're right, he is not permitted to touch, however if he asks & they permit him to touch, then what?
locamorenanena 2 years ago
Rofl.
INSTANT KARMA, bitch!
RagaLeokii 2 years ago
HAHAH so dumb about how if you have a kid it will be a female. Theoretically eggs can be fused together in a lab to make a baby, but it hasn't been done yet. God, why are people so dumb?
InYourFaceNewYorker 2 years ago
It is natural for people to have these questions in their mind, but it's so dumb that they think that it's okay to ask them. People are ignorant.
InYourFaceNewYorker 2 years ago 2
Great presentation. That failure of genetic understanding was so funny. Sometimes people's level of density can be amazing.
tobyr3 2 years ago
wow you have had a lot of rude questions.
where most of these in sweden?
nailskepttidy 2 years ago