Every video says you need four or five carabiners. I can get away with using just 2. It probably works better with more but if you are In a pinch, use whatever works.
THANK YOU for protecting the tree! I wanted to watch a slacklining video and every time I saw one and the tree wasn't protected, I moved on to the next video. Think of the trees people! All you need is some old carpet.
Having to explain a clove hitch on a slackline video would be like explaining a screwdriver on a home improvement video . If you don't know what it is look it up not everything has to be 100% explained .
Whats the longest line you can set up with just carabiners? I can get as many carabiners as needed and swap the tensioning tape for rope, how longer line could i tension with this set up?
@trialsridingftw I've never set up a line longer than 50' with just carabiners. I don't like lines with more than about 5' or 6' of vertical displacement.
Instead of a 4:1 you can do a 3:1 set-up it's way easier to tie off and it holds the tension a lot better so you don't have to keep re-pulling the line as often
We use this setup on a regular basis, this weekend in a moment I was distracted with another adult, 6 young kids (ages 12 and 17) went all at the same time over the line... guess what happen... Nothing!, So please stop saying that this is wrong, that the forces on the universe bla bla and that it is dangerous. Just make sure you do this with nice proper rated carabiners and tubular and you will be just fine.
And you should learn to say THANKS you need it and this guy deserves.
dang so i set up my first slackline using your method and i had to cut my anchor to get it down because i couldn't loosen any part of it enough to take it down. what's the trick here?
I wouldn't use anything cheaper than the omega oval $5 biners. You want something stronger so if the gate somehow opens when you are on the line, then you probably won't have a biner turn into sharp bits of metal flying at your head. so if you have the money, then get some locking and maybe steel biners.
@captainhazzard a kn is 225 pounds. if you pull on it with 100 lbs of force at a 4:1 pulley, that is just under 2kn. SERIOUSLY, carabiners are like 5 bucks. get a 20kn.
You need a total of 6 biners. 1 for each tree, 2 for the end of your line, and 2 for a multiplier. Make a friction brake. Put on some linelockers made with rap rings and you're are good to go. You can get the line super tight.
@Switchback how is the loading transferred to anything other than tension and bending in the caribiners by forces that act in the direction the caribiners are desinged for. I dont see any metal on metal here.
just take your rope and do what he does when he says to tie a clove hitch. you just make two loops with the rope. one with the rope going over and one with it going under. :)
guys stop telling him how wrong he is. i climb and slackline and i know for a fact that these carabiners can hold more than a ton so unless the fat people of the word recide to take up slacklining, this is a quick, cheaper and easy set up to rely on and i've used it and i have been using it for a long time. well dona man i loved your video.
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My slacklines I can get way tigher than that , set up just as quick, but I have no metal in the system when done, just the line. Learn how to do it. Breaking carabriners under those stresses are like shrap mil, Dont use them, steel or aluminum
People like this should not be allowed to post on You TUbe, Use that set up and it could get you smacked.
The carabiners this guy used have a minimum regulated breaking strength of 20KN, or roughly 4500 pounds of dynamic force. They can hold much higher static forces than that. Climbing spec 1" tubular nylon webbing has a minimum breaking strength of 18KN or roughly 4050 pounds of dynamic force. With this system, your actual webbing is more likely to break than the carabiners will. You would see that you have nothing to gripe about if you would just do a little research.
@switchbacksidecork are you kidding? Are you using unrated biners or something? Coz real ones won't break. Maybe if they've been left out in the elements for months...
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So many things wrong here if you only slackline and don't climb U should not set up slack line with out instruction + understanding of the gears strength and the forces applied to the system when you set up horizantal stress under tension with those types of forces.This guy is triaxially loading a carabiner under those loads. people that commented here dont climb or maybe you do but you dont know enough about your gear. Go look up Triaxial loading and dont do it.
!!!!!However, I question the safety of a slackline set up with aluminum carabiners!!!!! The steel carabiners expensive and super heavy but I would definitely suggest using AT LEAST one on the far side of the slackline where you have only ONE aluminum biner! Aluminum biners are for protection within "the system" for climbing with dynamic ropes. Even though the slackline is somewhat dynamic, its under lots of tension from the start! Use STEEL for ANCHORS!
this is how i always rig my lines! im curious if this set up would be safe for a highline if backed up with a second line? i could use climbing rope, but i prefer the feeling of a flat line.
only use 4 beaners. you just run the webbing underneath the beaner by the tree and it holds the line tight so you eliminate the need for more hitches to secure it
It's called a slackline because that's what it's called. It is dynamic in the sense that it stretches and bounces but it's still slack in the sense that it is not completely taught and still moves around. You can walk on your static line if you want (you masochist) but I'll stick to webbing.
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why pull it tight. it's supposed to be a slack. To set up a slack line. Take a lenght of static rope tie it between two fixed points with a simple full turn and two half hitches. if it touches the ground when loaded, simply move the knots up. if you pull it tight it can't be a "SLACK LINE" What you are describing here is a "DYNAMIC LINE" as it is under tension
There you go again, getting hung up on words. You are not the owner of the definition. You get nothing at all relating to this if you google "dynamic line." Quit being such a dork.
You could simply thread the webbing under itself on the 4:1 pulley to create an auto-camming action. Would rid the need of the half hitches. Secondly, using a rappel loop to create the locking mechanisms for the end and pulley system on the slackline is much better than the hitches for long lines.
The problem with method is it is really hard on the webing. I used it one time on my line and it left noticalbe scarring and wear on the line. This is not to mention that the camming system does not always hold, I have blown the tension out of lines using this system multipule times. Well the method above is not perferct, and does become much more diffucult the more tension you put in the line it is a sold method for shorter lines where you only lose a small amount of tension when setting up.
I see you've got a little loop in your line at the non-tightening end. A friend showed me the the knot I think you used to make that little loop but I forgot the name. What's it called? It looks like you leave it permanently in your line.
Why don't you just use that small loop to hook your line to the carabiner rather than the muenter/half-hitch?
Any safety reason to prefer the muenter/half-hitch, or is it just because it makes it very easy to de-tension the line?
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has anybody even done this like him before? if you have then MAKE ABETTER VIDEO! cuz he doesnt explain or show anything he is doing during that f-d up cloe hitch
i use the same method to set up my line, but i have the problem to loose the tension after a few walks. dont you have the same problem? i dont really know what causes that loss, my knot doesnt seem to open, its more like the pully itself is locked by fricktion before u walk it and then it loosens itself... that pretty anoying.
I think it is the nylon deforming. After we tie it off, we usually bounce on the slackline as hard as possible to get the stretch out, then untie and tighten further.
If you tie a single biner into a slackline, it can be very difficult to untie it. You don't have that problem with 2 biners because you can rock them back and forth to loosen the knot. Sometimes people who use the Ellington add a quicklink or rap ring to the biner to make it easier to untie.
Another issue with the Ellington is you have nylon rubbing on nylon, so your line will wear out sooner.
I'm not knocking the Ellington, it uses less gear and it locks off automatically.
i use rachets when i slackline. I want to try the set up you just did, but im not sure how much webbing to buy because alot of it in your vid is taken up by the the rigging and tieing off... i want to be able to walk at least 35 feet of line! how much extra do i have to buy?
another question, what are you using for your anchors? are they slings and where can i buy them?
you can buy climbing slings at REI or any climbing store (in the climbing section). i use 42" slings and i usually only need one per tree, though a thick tree might need two.
as for the amount of webbing, it depends on how much tension you want in the line. if you tie the clove hitch 2/3 of the way on the line, as i've heard suggested, you end up losing a lot of line. however, tying the clove hitch closer to the anchor, meaning you'll have less room to tighten it, means losing less webbing.
Yeah i never used a half hitch ot back it up anyway. If you do a 5:1 with only 3 biners and tuck the last loop underneath the previous that seems to hold just fine. Highlining over a gorge or something i put a half hitch or two in though
all the knot nuts and techs come out....your munter is backed up with a slipped half hitch....sorry................I will try that set up, it looks fun! Thanks...and clarkgrubb is correct: 5 moving lines=5:1
Counting lines isn't always correct. It only works for some systems. Eg- a compund 6:1 system would work out to be a 5:1 if your were counting lines. The best way to work out mechanical advantage for simple, compound and complex systems is the T method.
The clove hitch locks up something awful - especially if you use the three carabiner method. I prefer the girth hitch, it's much easier to untie once it's been loaded.
You say its ok to back-up a tremendous load with a half hitch and people believe you because they're willing to take some joe blow's opinion as expert advice. Anyone who even glanced across what knots to tie and avoid already learned that a half hitch is not to be relied upon, and convincing people otherwise is reckless. You're gonna get someone killed when the knot works on the slack line, gains someones trust, and then fails as an anchor later.
"...the Half Hitch is near worthless, you should employ the Half Hitch...when you are out of rope and the miserly Half Hitch is the only knot that will fit in the short piece" and on the double (or triple) half hitch, "The Double Half Hitch is not twice as good as the single Half Hitch. There is no good use for this knot; if you have enough rope to tie it, you also have enough to tie the better Double Fisherman's." -Knots and Ropes for Climbers.
This is just silly. Know your knots and know when their use is appropriate. The humble half-hitch has proven itself over millenia of use. You need to learn to take the context into account when quoting from your library.
the first half hitch is used to back up the munter hitch. It is to stop the tape from sliding through and the munter from undoing. It is the perfectly adequate knot to use in that situation. Your the one that is "gonna get someone killed" as your quote is way out of context with the way it was applied in this situation. I hope your better at your understanding of knots and anchor systems than you imply on these posts, as you cant learn how to climb just by reading a cheap book on knots.
This way is much safer than using a ratchet and all you have to do to take it down is to pull on the munter hitch - if you want to learn to rig longer than this then buy some pulleys ;-)
Every video says you need four or five carabiners. I can get away with using just 2. It probably works better with more but if you are In a pinch, use whatever works.
rocker12181 1 week ago
Good video, makes what I thought would be very difficult look straightforward!
But can it be done with 5 biners that are all different sizes?
1Jackwhiteley 1 month ago
THANK YOU for protecting the tree! I wanted to watch a slacklining video and every time I saw one and the tree wasn't protected, I moved on to the next video. Think of the trees people! All you need is some old carpet.
icklerob 1 month ago
wtf is a muenter hitch??? Lol ! I think you mean a munter hitch (or italian hitch)...
SuperCrazyclimber 1 month ago
Having to explain a clove hitch on a slackline video would be like explaining a screwdriver on a home improvement video . If you don't know what it is look it up not everything has to be 100% explained .
smileyshaun6012 1 month ago
So you don't use tension in your setup? Can't you get it tighter if you do?
hunterandgatherers 2 months ago
Awesome! I'm so trying this!
hemir9 5 months ago
Next time you want to make an instructional video, try explaining "EVERYTHING" that you're doing. Way to skip the part about the clove hitch.
Solgoode25 8 months ago
Why do you use a münter hitch at the first anchor instead of a clove hitch? Is it easier to untie when taking everything down?
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I think that's a nominal 5:1 mechanical advantage. The guy in the video says 4:1.
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iq201 9 months ago
About how much does everything cost?
justcheer19 10 months ago
@justcheer19 you can get all you need for about 60 bucks
therealcalhounninja 9 months ago
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KateTiclb 1 year ago
Whats the longest line you can set up with just carabiners? I can get as many carabiners as needed and swap the tensioning tape for rope, how longer line could i tension with this set up?
trialsridingftw 1 year ago
@trialsridingftw I've never set up a line longer than 50' with just carabiners. I don't like lines with more than about 5' or 6' of vertical displacement.
clarkgrubb 1 year ago
why not use this for highline?
3MinutesPast 1 year ago
good video thanks man
jonfredric1 1 year ago
Instead of a 4:1 you can do a 3:1 set-up it's way easier to tie off and it holds the tension a lot better so you don't have to keep re-pulling the line as often
navajoskater1191 1 year ago
he's like in the middle of nowhere haha
s431907 1 year ago
im 6'"2 and 220 pounds and did this exact setup with the help of three fit friends of mine to tighten the line and no go.. any advice?
flyassqbn 1 year ago
@flyassqbn loose some weight...
hippapotica 1 year ago
@hippapotica i play college ball, i won't be losing any weight any time soon...
flyassqbn 1 year ago
christ!? is that mosquito city??
flyassqbn 1 year ago
We use this setup on a regular basis, this weekend in a moment I was distracted with another adult, 6 young kids (ages 12 and 17) went all at the same time over the line... guess what happen... Nothing!, So please stop saying that this is wrong, that the forces on the universe bla bla and that it is dangerous. Just make sure you do this with nice proper rated carabiners and tubular and you will be just fine.
And you should learn to say THANKS you need it and this guy deserves.
THANKS DUDE!!!
bajaexcursions 1 year ago 4
Thx!!!
I didn't know where to start.
In less than 3 minutes explained, that's sharp ;)
Peace
Robodib 1 year ago
How much is the total cost of this set up?
CAguero14 1 year ago
@CAguero14 I got my line for about 85 bucks it's way cheaper to make your own than ordering one
navajoskater1191 1 year ago
You are using the wrong carabiner! NEVER BUILD A HIGHLINE LIKE THIS! ITS REALLY DANGEROUS!
hupsebify 1 year ago
dang so i set up my first slackline using your method and i had to cut my anchor to get it down because i couldn't loosen any part of it enough to take it down. what's the trick here?
grantnestor 1 year ago
im looking for the cheapest five carabiners i can get, but that i can use that won
t break.. any pointers?
backtothebeat4 1 year ago
@backtothebeat4 just get some omega pacific ovals. Should run about $6 a crab which is standard. Good investment and they last forever
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nice video
how did you make the loop in the webbing for the anchor?
ThePatchworkpanda 1 year ago
nice video
how did you make the loop in the webbing for the anchor?
ThePatchworkpanda 1 year ago
@ThePatchworkpanda
just take a bite of webbing at the and and make an overhand knot with it.
hiddenlawyer 1 year ago
nice video
how did you make the loop in the webbing?
ThePatchworkpanda 1 year ago
nice video
how did you make the loop in the webbing?
ThePatchworkpanda 1 year ago
whats the difference between a munter hitch and a clovehitch?
muppet9976 1 year ago
Totally different knots. A munter hitch is often used for belaying without a belay device.
nomensteven 1 year ago
Would carabiners with a 6 kn rating be strong enough for this set up?
captainhazzard 1 year ago
we've always used 20kN biners. Never had one break, so maybe a weaker biner would suffice.
clarkgrubb 1 year ago
Thanks man, I'll give them a go. I only slack a few feet off the ground so 'i should be ok in the event of failure.
captainhazzard 1 year ago
I wouldn't use anything cheaper than the omega oval $5 biners. You want something stronger so if the gate somehow opens when you are on the line, then you probably won't have a biner turn into sharp bits of metal flying at your head. so if you have the money, then get some locking and maybe steel biners.
MOslackline 1 year ago
@captainhazzard a kn is 225 pounds. if you pull on it with 100 lbs of force at a 4:1 pulley, that is just under 2kn. SERIOUSLY, carabiners are like 5 bucks. get a 20kn.
sdubproductions 1 year ago
You need a total of 6 biners. 1 for each tree, 2 for the end of your line, and 2 for a multiplier. Make a friction brake. Put on some linelockers made with rap rings and you're are good to go. You can get the line super tight.
MOslackline 2 years ago
shrap mil is vewy dangewous. thanks for the video cgrubb.
bri575 2 years ago
You don't need 5 carabiners. 3 is enough if you also have 2 links from a sturdy piece of chain.
sleepyhead1933 2 years ago
agreed. where he has two carabiners together you only need one. so 3 is def enough. well i use 3 and i've never had a problem
rhgrieve 2 years ago
@Switchback how is the loading transferred to anything other than tension and bending in the caribiners by forces that act in the direction the caribiners are desinged for. I dont see any metal on metal here.
sirchristopher2000 2 years ago
This would be an amazing video if you could show how to clove hitch. Thats my only problem. Someone wanna help me out.
Dillontheguitarist 2 years ago
just take your rope and do what he does when he says to tie a clove hitch. you just make two loops with the rope. one with the rope going over and one with it going under. :)
rockyreiter06 2 years ago
guys stop telling him how wrong he is. i climb and slackline and i know for a fact that these carabiners can hold more than a ton so unless the fat people of the word recide to take up slacklining, this is a quick, cheaper and easy set up to rely on and i've used it and i have been using it for a long time. well dona man i loved your video.
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My slacklines I can get way tigher than that , set up just as quick, but I have no metal in the system when done, just the line. Learn how to do it. Breaking carabriners under those stresses are like shrap mil, Dont use them, steel or aluminum
People like this should not be allowed to post on You TUbe, Use that set up and it could get you smacked.
switchbacksidecork 2 years ago
We've never broken a carabiner or webbing with this setup.
I've never met any slackliners who bothered to remove the metal from a short line like this.
clarkgrubb 2 years ago 7
@clarkgrubb yea the slackline would break first its only 4 thousand a biner in 20kn!
tylerpienta 5 months ago
lol what's shrap mil
jimmyxstewart 2 years ago
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The carabiners this guy used have a minimum regulated breaking strength of 20KN, or roughly 4500 pounds of dynamic force. They can hold much higher static forces than that. Climbing spec 1" tubular nylon webbing has a minimum breaking strength of 18KN or roughly 4050 pounds of dynamic force. With this system, your actual webbing is more likely to break than the carabiners will. You would see that you have nothing to gripe about if you would just do a little research.
CGheen910 1 year ago
@switchbacksidecork are you kidding? Are you using unrated biners or something? Coz real ones won't break. Maybe if they've been left out in the elements for months...
keepfit00 1 year ago
@switchbacksidecork
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So many things wrong here if you only slackline and don't climb U should not set up slack line with out instruction + understanding of the gears strength and the forces applied to the system when you set up horizantal stress under tension with those types of forces.This guy is triaxially loading a carabiner under those loads. people that commented here dont climb or maybe you do but you dont know enough about your gear. Go look up Triaxial loading and dont do it.
switchbacksidecork 2 years ago
Superb video.
OnRappel 2 years ago
First off, I do like the video.
!!!!!However, I question the safety of a slackline set up with aluminum carabiners!!!!! The steel carabiners expensive and super heavy but I would definitely suggest using AT LEAST one on the far side of the slackline where you have only ONE aluminum biner! Aluminum biners are for protection within "the system" for climbing with dynamic ropes. Even though the slackline is somewhat dynamic, its under lots of tension from the start! Use STEEL for ANCHORS!
mudbert 2 years ago
aluminum carabiners can hold 2 tons or 24 kilo newtons....I think they're pretty safe
1mpur1ty 2 years ago 12
Ignor this guy/gal. They have no idea what they are talking about.
OnRappel 2 years ago
this is how i always rig my lines! im curious if this set up would be safe for a highline if backed up with a second line? i could use climbing rope, but i prefer the feeling of a flat line.
teamjinsoku 2 years ago
only use 4 beaners. you just run the webbing underneath the beaner by the tree and it holds the line tight so you eliminate the need for more hitches to secure it
sackett023 2 years ago
Nice video, by the way.
bam12345 2 years ago
It's called a slackline because that's what it's called. It is dynamic in the sense that it stretches and bounces but it's still slack in the sense that it is not completely taught and still moves around. You can walk on your static line if you want (you masochist) but I'll stick to webbing.
bam12345 2 years ago
Great Video, really easy to follow. thanks
MissoulianLimits 2 years ago
really descriptive and easy to understand. good job, and thanks for the help!
coffmanlz 2 years ago
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why pull it tight. it's supposed to be a slack. To set up a slack line. Take a lenght of static rope tie it between two fixed points with a simple full turn and two half hitches. if it touches the ground when loaded, simply move the knots up. if you pull it tight it can't be a "SLACK LINE" What you are describing here is a "DYNAMIC LINE" as it is under tension
rockstarnomad 2 years ago
There you go again, getting hung up on words. You are not the owner of the definition. You get nothing at all relating to this if you google "dynamic line." Quit being such a dork.
f1shboT 2 years ago 2
your kinda stupid
FunWITHsasquatch 2 years ago 2
FYI, this is to zeek000 comment.
snowboardwiker 2 years ago
i noticed it too :). but it's very good, i didn't needed to move it forward to watch what i'm looking for. thanks! :)
StasyPlaukiam 2 years ago
Good video!
I always laugh when you just start it:
"Build an anchor."
Haha, no hello or intro or anything lol.
mns145 2 years ago 21
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ya and he doesn't even say " and thats it" at the end or anything, he just starts walking the line lol
WeBeChillin420 1 year ago
You could simply thread the webbing under itself on the 4:1 pulley to create an auto-camming action. Would rid the need of the half hitches. Secondly, using a rappel loop to create the locking mechanisms for the end and pulley system on the slackline is much better than the hitches for long lines.
zeek000 3 years ago
zeek000 - I'm having trouble understanding what your saying, i don't know many of the terms your using. Could you explain it a little more please ^_^
or even make a quick little vid? thxxxx
h4rk4t 2 years ago
The problem with method is it is really hard on the webing. I used it one time on my line and it left noticalbe scarring and wear on the line. This is not to mention that the camming system does not always hold, I have blown the tension out of lines using this system multipule times. Well the method above is not perferct, and does become much more diffucult the more tension you put in the line it is a sold method for shorter lines where you only lose a small amount of tension when setting up.
snowboardwiker 2 years ago
Great Vid, thanks. I think it explains just whats needed.
Why it shouldnt be used for highlines?
ponchoso 3 years ago
I see you've got a little loop in your line at the non-tightening end. A friend showed me the the knot I think you used to make that little loop but I forgot the name. What's it called? It looks like you leave it permanently in your line.
Why don't you just use that small loop to hook your line to the carabiner rather than the muenter/half-hitch?
Any safety reason to prefer the muenter/half-hitch, or is it just because it makes it very easy to de-tension the line?
Thanks!
ericlenza 3 years ago
yes, the nice thing about the muenter and half hitch is you can untie it even when it is under tension.
clarkgrubb 3 years ago
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ericlenza 3 years ago
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has anybody even done this like him before? if you have then MAKE ABETTER VIDEO! cuz he doesnt explain or show anything he is doing during that f-d up cloe hitch
rebelyell1191 3 years ago
If you don't know how to tie a knot, just do a google search for it. It is shocking how helpless some people are.
clarkgrubb 3 years ago
People need to learn how to take time to find out for themselves. hahah
ramen02 3 years ago 5
Awesome! How tall are you and how tall is the rope set?
Joper000 3 years ago
allright ill try that!
thx!
ocb2112 3 years ago
hi!
i use the same method to set up my line, but i have the problem to loose the tension after a few walks. dont you have the same problem? i dont really know what causes that loss, my knot doesnt seem to open, its more like the pully itself is locked by fricktion before u walk it and then it loosens itself... that pretty anoying.
ocb2112 3 years ago
I think it is the nylon deforming. After we tie it off, we usually bounce on the slackline as hard as possible to get the stretch out, then untie and tighten further.
clarkgrubb 3 years ago
very helpful video. when i've set up slacklines, i've only used 3 carabiners (one for each spot). what's the advantage of using five?
AbiWeber 3 years ago
If you tie a single biner into a slackline, it can be very difficult to untie it. You don't have that problem with 2 biners because you can rock them back and forth to loosen the knot. Sometimes people who use the Ellington add a quicklink or rap ring to the biner to make it easier to untie.
Another issue with the Ellington is you have nylon rubbing on nylon, so your line will wear out sooner.
I'm not knocking the Ellington, it uses less gear and it locks off automatically.
clarkgrubb 3 years ago
i use rachets when i slackline. I want to try the set up you just did, but im not sure how much webbing to buy because alot of it in your vid is taken up by the the rigging and tieing off... i want to be able to walk at least 35 feet of line! how much extra do i have to buy?
another question, what are you using for your anchors? are they slings and where can i buy them?
sk8nska 3 years ago
you can buy climbing slings at REI or any climbing store (in the climbing section). i use 42" slings and i usually only need one per tree, though a thick tree might need two.
as for the amount of webbing, it depends on how much tension you want in the line. if you tie the clove hitch 2/3 of the way on the line, as i've heard suggested, you end up losing a lot of line. however, tying the clove hitch closer to the anchor, meaning you'll have less room to tighten it, means losing less webbing.
AbiWeber 3 years ago
How about using a cow hitch instead of a clove hitch?
Kenacjeriq 3 years ago
How do you de-tension everything?
ranger16 3 years ago
untie the half hitches and it just kinda falls apart.
unidudedx 3 years ago
pretty interesting stuff.
rushedartist 3 years ago
awesome stuff, useful
somegi9 3 years ago
i was wondering, how long of a webbing can this setup hold without snapping? great video btw :)
ema384 3 years ago
Yeah i never used a half hitch ot back it up anyway. If you do a 5:1 with only 3 biners and tuck the last loop underneath the previous that seems to hold just fine. Highlining over a gorge or something i put a half hitch or two in though
ZSREINER 3 years ago
all the knot nuts and techs come out....your munter is backed up with a slipped half hitch....sorry................I will try that set up, it looks fun! Thanks...and clarkgrubb is correct: 5 moving lines=5:1
Spartreeman 4 years ago
Counting lines isn't always correct. It only works for some systems. Eg- a compund 6:1 system would work out to be a 5:1 if your were counting lines. The best way to work out mechanical advantage for simple, compound and complex systems is the T method.
roperescuemaster 3 years ago
The clove hitch locks up something awful - especially if you use the three carabiner method. I prefer the girth hitch, it's much easier to untie once it's been loaded.
superslamwich 4 years ago
umm cool
garrett0123 4 years ago
Error in the video: the theoretical mechanical advantage is 5-to-1. The real advantage after friction is probably less than half that.
clarkgrubb 4 years ago
@clarkgrubb I agree. It's 5:1 nominal.
iq201 9 months ago
Half hitches are used when setting up short low lines because they can be untied while under tension.
It is tedious to have to set up a tensioning system to take down your slackline. And sad when you have to cut your webbing to take it down.
clarkgrubb 4 years ago
theearthvolta1 has a valid point. This setup should not be used for highlining. Highliners use a more robust setup. Even so, highlining is dangerous.
clarkgrubb 4 years ago
You say its ok to back-up a tremendous load with a half hitch and people believe you because they're willing to take some joe blow's opinion as expert advice. Anyone who even glanced across what knots to tie and avoid already learned that a half hitch is not to be relied upon, and convincing people otherwise is reckless. You're gonna get someone killed when the knot works on the slack line, gains someones trust, and then fails as an anchor later.
theearthvolta1 4 years ago
"...the Half Hitch is near worthless, you should employ the Half Hitch...when you are out of rope and the miserly Half Hitch is the only knot that will fit in the short piece" and on the double (or triple) half hitch, "The Double Half Hitch is not twice as good as the single Half Hitch. There is no good use for this knot; if you have enough rope to tie it, you also have enough to tie the better Double Fisherman's." -Knots and Ropes for Climbers.
theearthvolta1 4 years ago
This is just silly. Know your knots and know when their use is appropriate. The humble half-hitch has proven itself over millenia of use. You need to learn to take the context into account when quoting from your library.
almondben 4 years ago
the first half hitch is used to back up the munter hitch. It is to stop the tape from sliding through and the munter from undoing. It is the perfectly adequate knot to use in that situation. Your the one that is "gonna get someone killed" as your quote is way out of context with the way it was applied in this situation. I hope your better at your understanding of knots and anchor systems than you imply on these posts, as you cant learn how to climb just by reading a cheap book on knots.
jonowhitfield 3 years ago 3
what idiot ever decided that a half hitch could secure anything. at least put a biner through the loop
theearthvolta1 4 years ago
a half hitch is actually a very secure knot, granted there are better knots for the job but a half hitch is a very good knot for this purpose
DucttapesUnicycle 4 years ago
exactly how much load do you think is being put on the "half hitch"? Back up your flame with some numbers so the rest of us can decide for ourselves.
gclimbalot 4 years ago
You really only need three carabiners. It just takes a little longer.
rlslim494 4 years ago
Just what I was looking for! Excellent vid.
deropus 4 years ago
Thank U, thank U, Thank U. Just what I need, when I wanted!
xangrila 5 years ago
great instructions. i have a setup from slackline express but i want to learn to do the simple setup and this is a great intro.
blakebo 5 years ago
This way is much safer than using a ratchet and all you have to do to take it down is to pull on the munter hitch - if you want to learn to rig longer than this then buy some pulleys ;-)
voideurism 5 years ago
Nice work on your video's too dude!
voideurism 5 years ago