Munster v Leinster Magners League 2011: Scrum penalty against Mike Ross

[kieranhegarty1]

To me it looks like Preez couldn't get under Ross' chest so went for under his arm/shoulder. Then he went to lift him but Ross was still scrummaging legally, so he released his bind and left Preez stand up and then bound on his chest stopping him getting back down. I'm a loosehead and I use the Preez tactic to overcome tightheads who have good upperbody strength but don't have the brains to slip their bind and let me up on my own. Ross does have the brains, but didn't have an understanding ref.

[irishmckiddo]

i live on the border  with leinster but im a munster man till i die

[civicsaloon]

There is about 5 people that commented on this video that actually know what they are talking about. Ross slipped his bind and forced Du Preez up and out of the scrum. It's simple and a correct decision from the ref. I am a massive munster fan but even if the roles were reversed I'd still comment on whether the ref was right or not be it a for munster or any opposition.

I know we've had some in the past, but holy christ there's a LOT of leinster fans that don't know any of the rules!

[1balboa1]

Ross the former munster man

[cillianful]

I am a leinster fan and i do think that munster deserverd to win the game but the scrum was just stupid.

du preez breaks his bind then pops up mike ross was not at fault there and the ref got that completly wrong. they even highlighted this on the breakdown on setanta sports as a wrong desicion by the ref which completly changed the course of the game.

[Feargface]

MUNSTER FANS

Has there been any improvement in Mushy's scrummaging? Ross has been great for Ireland but we all know Mushy would be incredible if he could scrummage.

[Dunnooooo123]

@Feargface He has his up and downs, sometimes he pulls well, like this match, but then some days he doesn't scrummage quite as well i.e. Brive.

[murph277v]

you d think that ratarded commentaror would shut the fuck up during the greatess song in sport..the feilds of athenry

[mrfloppyjoe]

@murph277v I like the irony in your comment

[toal77]

@murph277v its like Leicester singing 'Swing Low Sweet Chariot' , makes no sense to anyone apart from Munster heads.

[olliekor]

I'm a leinster head, and what can i say, fare play to munster they played great in the second half.

[richiewhe]

not luck ross made a mistake

[MildyMac]

TBF McLaughlin disengages early, so even if the reason for the penalty is an error, the decision is still right.

[sumboyo]

only reason ross had to shift his bind was the munster front row were pooping up anyway, leinster demolished the munster scrum and poor reffing let munster away with it....

[glassy23]

If Your gonna moan about a score check out what O'Brien did to help Nacewa get through for Horgans try.

[MrVolumax]

I WAS DERE...C'MON MUNSTER :D

[Eoinmpc]

can you put up of the winning kick by ROG

[TegVeece]

There's nothing "lucky" about it to be fair. Ross shifts his bind halfway through to put his arm in Du Preez's face and illegally push him upwards. The ref saw it and awarded the penalty.

[RuggieBear1]

@TegVeece hey I'm only going by what the international prop reckoned! :)

[Dunnooooo123]

@RuggieBear1 Ross drops the bind, doesn't matter if jesus said it, what happened, happened.

[geansai333]

@RuggieBear1 bulloch is a hooker.

[12345TheRonan]

@RuggieBear1 Awww bless, the uploader knows absolutly nothing about rugby :)

[12345TheRonan]

@RuggieBear1 Awry bless, the up-loader knows absolutely nothing about rugby :)

[Cailtegdfc]

@TegVeece , Du Preez cant take the pressure, hishead rises forcing Ross's arm up, just another poor decision by a terrible referee, have a look at it again there chief.

[Cailtegdfc]

@TegVeece Du Preez cant take the pressure, hishead rises forcing Ross's arm up, just another poor decision by a terrible referee, have a look at it again there chief.

[Dunnooooo123]

@Cailtegdfc All Ross did was lift up, and then force Wian up with his arm. Why would Wian buckle in the scrum just after pushing back the Leinster one few seconds before hand.

[tony10396861]

@Dunnooooo123 Well he didn't do it on purpose!! Fact is, 9 out of 10 times the penalty would've gone the other way. They both slip their binds almost simultaneously, but Du Preez is clearly the one who stands up when Ross puts the pressure on. Bizarre decision to penalise Ross for standing up. He clearly had the upper hand.

[Dunnooooo123]

@tony10396861 He drops his arm first, that is where the penalty comes from. If the ref hadn't noticed, Wian would've popped up and Leinster would have gotten the penalty, but he did notice Ross' lifting.

[tony10396861]

@Dunnooooo123 Had another look and I think you're right, Ross does drop his bind marginally before Du Preez. Odd thing is though, the ref doesn't penalise him for that. He gave the penalty for popping up, which I don't see the logic of at all

[denisosulli]

@TegVeece Got that spot on!