TheAlexJonesChannel . You 'think' Peter Joseph looks down on you because of your Texan accent and up bringing. But you are guilty of exactly the same snobbery in the way you mimic his accent. I am not religious and in my opinion, religion requires nothing more than faith, and this in itself can lead to exploitation/corruption. I believe you are both decent people, I'm sure if there is a God, he wouldn't stand in the way of good people trying to do the best for humanity.
Krishnamurti disowned the position of 'messiah' that the Theosophical Society groomed him for. His appearance in Addendum is not an endorsement by the Zeitgeist film maker of everything he or the Theosophical Society stands for. Watching 80% of Addendum with the phones ringing is not paying proper attention. "ZDay stormtroppers" ...? Alex Jones' imagination runs wild and he waxes lyrical with paranoid terminology. Lucifer worshippers? The first Zeitgeist movie is not The Zeitgeist Movement.
When you start seeing life for what it is, you'll understand Zeitgeist better. The only New World Order is the ego. However; if you want to really see life for what it is, you'll go beyond the Zeitgeist Movement and join the Hanged Man Project.
For those who've joined or wish to join the movement, ZM is currently running a side project--we wish to gather about 25k members to participate in D-Wave's AQUA research project, through BOINC and for science!
BOINC is a volunteer grid computing system that uses your computer to solve problems. Simply put, you can help researchers with your idle CPU
for those who wish to learn more, Google "The Zeitgeist Movement title=BOINC"
So far, it seems to me like Jones hasn't made the connection between how religion IS part of governmental corruption and control BECUZ he's a Christian!
So, you watched the movie and did a 'couple of hours of research' ?
I find it difficult to believe that you did any real research since you are so off base about krishnamurti. As a Christian, isn't it more appropriate that you conduct yourself as one by refraining from harsh and derogatory comments, some that come across very demeaning and hateful. It requires many hours of research if you really cared to see what the Zeitgeist Movement is all about .
and he's not saying that being religous as a person makes you stupid or there isn't a god, because how the hell would he know. but the way society conditions us from birth means that we are susceptible to fall into these 'churches', naive to not use critical thinking against our church because it's a sin and it's all we know. and that dose not make people better or worse than others because you can't change how you are brought up
and btw alex your getting the religion thing completely wrong, the point peter joseph is making is the churches and religious establishments are power bent, it's a way of using belief to be fearful as to help control the population and gain power. sorry but if the church was truely christian they would not have been trying to force (via violence) people to follow them. and thats the same with alot of other religious powers in the wolrd. just look at the wars ffs.
The Zeitgeist films highlight the facts that we all know about the corruption of the system and the fraud of the FED and the banking system. HOWEVER, the Zeitgeist is more of the same, the Venus Project is another system of 100% control over people.
No, this is quite serious. Research the Zeitgeist Movement. It's total NWO. They want a scientific communism, where there are no nations, no private property, no money, where everything revolves around resources, and where artificial intelligende is in control of society. The first Zeitgeist tricked people into thinking it's anti-NWO. The 2nd and 3rd Zeitgeists reveal it's true nature. The Zeitgeists films are NWO propaganda.
@TheStarfkr er.. i have researched!! i am a finance and economics major and i know that the monetary system will not allow people to be ethical as survival in this system is based upon differential advantage.hence i support the movement.we need to abolish the monetary system.btw have u seen the videos where alex interviewed peter?alex was so rude,irrational and aggressive that i was shocked and i am not going to trust anyone who behaves like that with another person.again,i think he is jealous!
If you are indeed an economics major you will know you can't abolosh the monetary system, you can only replace it with another form of "money", which is what the resource management stuff is. Honestly, I think you need to step back and actually take a critical look at what the movement is pushing....Scientific Communism or Fascism. That's not freedom and is instead Tyranny.
@TheStarfkr tyranny can only occur in the monetary system,because the one with the more money automatically has more power and can exploit others and that is why the resource based economy is so good as it does not give any one individual the power to rule over others! and who said that the monetary system cannot be abolished?its not like that the monetary system always existed! it was a contrivance, an invention which should be made obsolete for a better system!
As long as humans have had a society there has been a monetary system. The problem with TZM is that it's a Scientific Dictatorship/Facist society. Tyranny is tyranny. TZM is the NWO. We've all been warned from books like "Brave New World, "1984", and "The New World Order", that this would be a dystopia.
@TheStarfkr humans have always had monetary system? who told u that?we had barter system,then people used receipts backed by gold,then came the monetary system. so see systems change.nothing should be fixed forever.we humans should always look for a new and a better system when the current system collapses.i dont like the way the world is,its all messed up.if u can not give any solution to all the problems we have in our world then at least stop belittling others who are doing so!
Bartering is money. You trade something of value to another person for something of value to you. TZM is crap. You do realize their goal is to have A.I. (artificial intelligence) in control of everybody. You do realize it is Scientific Communism/Fascism, right?
@TheStarfkr oh and one more thing.if TZM had been NWO then they would not have revealed its secrets in the first zeitgeist movie!! lol!! is it so difficult to understand that??a two-year-old should be able to figure that out!but its ok i understand u probably are a big alex jones fan and are possibly brainwashed by him.plus i think its pointless for us to argue.clearly none of us is changing our opinion.i dont want to keep on coming here to comment & increase the view.so i am done here.ciao.
The Zeitgeist movies are the classic "bait-and-switch" scam. The first movie was deisned to capture people who are upset about the current system and people who oppose the NWO. You do know what a bati-and-switch scam is, right? It's like this: "Are you tired of the current political system? Do you want change? Are you opposed to the NWO? Well, join with us, TZM, and embrace our vision of the future.....which is the NWO."
@TheStarfkr What's wrong with asking people if they're fed up with something they probably are and SHOULD BE fed up with? We ARE fed up with the current system....so if someone comes up with a solution we oughta claim it's a trick???
Well, we could create A.I. and have it put everyone in the Matrix and that would be a solution, right? Or we could just lobotomize everyone when they are born except for the elite so they can better control us. A lot of different solutions if all you want is a solution.
@TheStarfkr There's nothing wrong with wanting a solution to a problem and, obviously, things like lobotomies and AI would be frowned upon. The point I was making is you shouldn't just assume that those who are trying to come up with a solution are enemies without knowing for sure. It is assumptions and misguided theories...i.e fear that keeps us from the truth and, even worse, from each other.
@TheStarfkr I totally agree, I was thinking this throughout my watching of the 3 movies, I smelled the bullshit as soon as they began to push their policy to enslave us further (the Venus Project) in the second film.
Very but very disapointed with Alex. it's sound the he is jealous and cannot take the truth..... I was raised Christian, and i felt that all the oppression comes from the guilt of being born from sin. The truth is that now im free to doubt and think about our religious leaders, that they use fear and guilt to make join the group. Satan is Gods creation.... so he can deal with it.... not us. Leave us Humans alone.
and If the illuminatti existed today im 100% sure it wouldn't be the type of org. that conspiracy theorist make of it in their minds in fact all we know about its purposes is what conspiracy theorists and novelist and dumb people make of it. I'm sure Adam Weishaupt was a decent german who formed a circle of freethinkers to discuss how stupid the church really was back then lol. The real enemies are just the international money traders of today and we know who they are and what they are not.
[cont] in fact, we know so much about the masons that i can deliberately tell you that they're many lodges lack any meaning or purpose and aren't even idealistically cohesive in terms of ritual protocols and rules of admission. For example, british lodges require the belief in a supreme being while french lodges don't give a fuck if ur an atheist, it's like a circle of intellectuals who meet for the hell of it.
btw, the actual "conspirators" aren't neither illuminatti or freemasons. They're just Bilderberg Group and Trilateral Comission financiers and puppet politicians. The freemasons is just a gentleman club with a tendency on privacy that would admit anyone of some sort of social prestige. They're rites and symbols are unfounded on anything and are based only on historical allegories refering to the many recognized myths of the society's foundation by church constructors or "masons."
[cont.] its a german word whose meaning is between mind and spirit? Hegel used it to refer to the general thinking or state of mind of a people in a any given time. Like their cultural awareness or idealistic tendency upon a period in history. It has nothing to do with religion in particularly satanism. Hegel was a philosopher of history not a priest.
Alex Jones as any other christian finds it impossible to accept the irrelevance of religion today. So what does he do? He plays the victim and tries to find sympathy now amongst the religious against Zeitgeist movement. He says that the final mission of Zeitgeist is to replace all world religions with satanism basically. And even misinterprets the word "Zeitgeist" with a spiritual meaning. Did you know the word Zeitgeist was a philosophical term made up by Hegel and the word geist
Whatever anyone below here said, if you are Anti-Religion you are kinda pro-luciferian. The NWO's plan is to destroy ALL Religions (Scientoligy and other made up crap of the last century are not religions, they are cults which go back to satanism) and if there is any rule you need to know of war it is this: The enemy of your enemy is your friend, so behold all the REAL Christians, Muslims and Jews who do not kill eachother as your friends and allies.
Zeitgeist doesn't "make fun of Christianity" - it simply discredits it [as it should] and it is so obvious that he is some sort of shill for some combination of Christian / Zionist / CIA factions that , when confronted with the fact that Zeitgeist puts an arrow through the heart of these world powers of control , he tries to label it some NWO bullshit in order to satisfy the sheep that listen to his every word !
venus project is a great idea and if it was possible id be for it but it is impossible because you will not be able to get everyone to sign up for this... and this TZM/venus project is a all or nothing thing
Alex Jones is a Jesuit and feeds off your fears... I used to watch Alex heavily until I woke up. Zeitgeist is the Illuminati HAHAHA.LOL. Alex is a straight fraud, lets ask him about the Vatican or how about the Nights Of Malta, The Jesuits, International Zionists...
It's very very unfair and untrue to put "A push for new world religion" as if it were a quote or view point of the zeitgeist movement. It is not, and never has been. The fundamental ideologies of the zeitgeist movement is to free the world from poverty, war, abhorrent behaviour and crime (hence the monetary system) and allow for a sustainable, efficient and collaborative society. The title of this video already alienates viewers. I would urge everyone to investigate the movement individually.
FEAR is all he's about, confusing mixing up. typical. and he cant even admit a lack of knowledge so there loudly out of his mouth is only fear and too much ignorance
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This has nothing to do with religion we need a new system, religion didnt solve the problem religion created wars killed alot of ppl. Alex is probably getting some fat cash of the church thats why he stands behind them...but at least stop screaming ang give the guy a chance to talk....we all know he is alot smarter then you....
he says "god spirit" in reference to our SOUL. we all ackknowledge that we have a soul. why is that bad? he says happiness comes from CONNECTION; not from money. why is that bad?
wait, dude! you are fighting totally irrelivent arguments! this is not about religion! his followers bash your religion, then you bash someone elses religion... isn't there some kind of freedom of religion amendment in the constitution? who gives a shit? lets talk about the system that they propose, and why you appose it.Calling them NWO, when they want no money at all in our society. Clearly NWO wants money in society to control us with.That Is The Whole Point!They have no power, without MONEY!
Technocracy is an update of our current system, and will be controlled by the same people who controlled the previous system. A seminar on information warfare could fill it’s time by merely analyzing this movie, with a particular focus on the efficacy of “revelation of the method”. But high quality propaganda must have a great deal of accuracy, according to Bernays, Lippman, and Ellul, and the first half is excellent reservoir of truth:
Z:A is a work of disinformation, since it proposes a neo-technocratic utopia with rhetoric very similar to Maurice Strong. I think the creator knows that his “solutions” are extremely dangerous, and I would not be surprised if he had backing from the Club of Rome, Rockefeller Foundation, or a similar organization. His movie proposes World Socialism, upgrading Marx and Engels with technology, giving revelations about banking that Marx omitted, since banking will be replaced.
@Jmalbran, All organization for the soul purpose of doing Good will get infiltrated by bad people (or as AJ would calls them "Evil"). A good example is the Tea Party organization and look at how Glen Beck is working to destroy this movement.
Rothschild and Clinton are doing the same thing to Zeitgeist. They lore people away from it's true agenda into a false paradise. I'll take my chances with Peter Joseph than anyone who currently supports or controls a Monetary system.
i used to have respect for you alex jones were not lucifer worshippers dont put words into our mouths please all your going to achieve with your work is trim the weeds of the garden we need a different system which works don't be so close minded your work is rght but you need to look at the bigger picture our whole social order with money and relious institutes and governments because it ALL clearly doesnt work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alex Jones if full of sh*t. Anyone who has watched Zeitgeist will see this is not NEW WORLD ORDER propaganda. Nor is Peter Joseph insulting religion. When I read articles about Alex Jones being a Zionist shill, this video (audio) proves it! He is doing everything he can to lie and distort the truth because Alex wants to keep the current broken Political system going. See articles written by Ted Pike and Brother Nathanael Kapner to get a good understanding of who Alex Jones is really about.
I used to be a supporter of him, but ever since him ostracizing Peter, I got fucking pissed. Peter NEVER said you were an idiot because you're christian. Zeitgeist is not new world order. I've met Peter in real life, he is no new world order scumbag that I would define.
hey alex last night i was hanging out with aliens and the real man who shot kennedy and they told me you know too much about thier plans and religion! i would be carefull if i was you
I used to be a fan of Alex. But recently, his hypocritical agenda has been all about the fear-mongering that he constantly preaches against. This isn't about a new religion. Rather it's about denouncing it being used as a tool to stifle the people, keeping them in line. An Alex fan no more I am.
I've seen two film made by the zeitgeist movement. There are some good ideas in it, but overall I want nothing to do with that stuff because it is flatly against anything resembling individual liberty.
The zeitgeist movement is about total control and micromanagement of every thing and every one. Screw that.
Watch the zeitgeist movies, and if you still want to personally have your own automobile, then reject zeitgeist.
Jones just isnt capable of comprehending what the zietgeist movement is about. NEW WORLD ORDER JUST MEANS A NEW CIVILISATION IT COULD BE GOOD IT COULD BE BAD, HE JUST CANT SEE PAST THESE SILLY UNEDUCATED CONOTATIONS THAT COME WITH 'NWO'. IF A NEW WORLD ORDER WAS BASED UPON GOOD THINGS IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE WORLD IF IT WAS BASED ON CORRUPT AND IMMORAL IDEAS (LIKE THIS WORLDS ORDER IS)THEN IT WOULD BE BAD.
Alex, I try my best to give u the benefit of the doubt, but even for a commoner like me who isn't biased to anything, I am sorry to say you are just unable to grasp the essence of the message. This is probably because you are very limited, or very pissed off the fact that your work has been superseded by a much more intelligent work.
It's a shame to see even the most intelligent people to be so closed minded. It's great for Alex Jones to point out the problems of the world, but shameful enough he doesn't even know solutions. Peter Joseph offered him a solution, but Alex just took it as an attack on his beliefs and retaliated. If everyone listened to Alex Jones, we will be back at square one once we got rid of the so-called "rich elite." As long as we keep this system, nothing will change.
@S0up3rD0up3r Alex jones isnt intelligent this clip proves that. His hearts in the right place but his mind obviously isnt, i mean hes talking about 'hg wells'..etc and 'zietgeist being a religion' he obviously isnt capable of understanding, which in my book makes him as indroctrinated and close minded as most people. He has no solutions and altho he does some good he is counter productive to the cause, because of his ill informed and reactionary behaviour
lol Peter and Alex really do dislike one another and Alex certainly goes to great lengths trying to discredit the Zeitgeist Movement, while Peter more or less dismisses Alex as a fear-monger. It's so sad because both men are truly intelligent beings capable of connecting with the masses in a truly unique way. If only they could put their petty ideological differences aside and try to find a common ground they could, in tandem, be capable of great things.
alex jones... not an intellectual, just another nutjob. a somewhat well informed nutjob. he may have a lot of facts and evidence, but he lacks power to interpret those, which i believe is caused by his devotion to his religion. he made the mistake of letting his emotions blind him from the truth, truth only cold hard logic can find.
if he wasnt so obnoxious and loud and annoying, he might make a nice main character in one of the greek-style tragedies. his hamartia, his religion.
Alex shows is that he is afraid Peter from Zeitgeist will replace him and take his livelihood and fame in the process. Sadly, in doing so, he reveals he doesn't really believe in helping the world, just profiting off perpetuating the fears people have about how it works. If he truly cared about the issues he covers, he's be excited to meet a Peter, work with him, and learn through disagreements. Alex Jones is as dangerous as Glenn Beck - the same cold desire for personal success motivates them.
in conclusion..the N.W.O., as described by G.W. Bush himself, will outlaw all organised religions.. ad supplant them with pantheism, or Earth and Nature worship. The dissenter will enjoy the hospitality of the Homeland security gulag, or, be shot where they stand by foreign troops who do not mind killing anyone who is to them, the "other". Resistance is futile and will be fatal.
One can not reason with lunatics. Meditation frees the spiritual being imprisoned behind the conscious mind or ego, itself incapable of handling more than 26 thoughts a second, the super conscious self, spirit, can handle over 500000 thoughts per second. All contention from the ego mind is wasted energy and emotional illogic from a mentality only 1/6th to 1/9th the full human intellectual potentiality.
Count the breath, concentrate on that alone. Ego recedes. Spirit speaks in clear logical ways.
If you get to know Zeitgeist, than you will see that Zeitgeist have NOTHING to do with religion. furthermore it is the pure religion freedom you could imagine.
for the Alex Jones fans: As well as a chainsaw can be very helpful, it can kill people brutaly. And a New World Order can be slavery and tyranny, but there can be also a New World Order of Peace and Harmony.
Do you pay attention when you're typing? You go from saying that Zeitgeist has "NOTHING to do with religion" to then saying "it is the pure religion" clearly demonstrating a link to religion. The truth is that Zeitgeist DOES have something to do with religion. That something is the rejection of religious messiahs (and religion as a whole) and the promotion of atheism vie the Venus Project.
As for the NWO; it's Luciferian. If you think it's good you've just swallowed their propaganda
Don't get me wrong... I have nothing against any one group. What I do have something against is any devisive teaching, doctrine or dogma that comes from misinterpretation of any scripture from any religion - those that cause you and I to see ourselves as divided or seperate - or that leads us to be disconnected from eachother and the world all of us (humans and animals) live in. It's funny how many religious people have been blinded, and believe they aren't. When truth comes they throw it out!
Nobody teaches what is actually written in the bible anymore. People just teach dogma's and ideas that have been handed down and taken as truth. This doesn't happen in scientific circles. They look for new solutions and new ways of seeing things, why can't the religious circles be the same? The solution to undoing the damage done by the past errors of organized religion is to become involved in religious circles. You get the wood for the axe to cut the trees down from the forest itself...
And a world with no class and no central power is a biblical concept, and is NOT evil or bad, it's what we will evolve to be as humans, as a society, and that IS biblical. I don't understand how some religious types get their bible so ass backwards. Even the process of evolution starting from the big bang to even the order life appeared that Darwin described in his theory of evolution is completely biblical and rabbis support that idea.
And no.. "God" isn't some old man with a beard that lives in the sky. God is the animating force of creation, the engine that runs the universe, the force that permeates everything and everyone...the totality of reality.. Anyone that truly believes and supports humanity and their fellow man thru love IS "saved"...
As if to slap God in the face, Christianity turned a Jewish messianic figure into an idol. They replaced God with an idol of a god-man and in doing so have forgotten that God has no face or religion. Because of this grossly accepted error in religious interpretation people now fail to see the God in themselves, in others and in the world around us. Yeshua/Jesus clearly stated in the bible only LOVE is valid, EVERYTHING else including religious creed is irrelevant garbage in the eyes of God.
if there was only 1 religion in the world I would believe in it. But there are MILLIONS of religions in which people believe in&all of the religion try to convince people that they are the truth. Doing so, they divide the people and create hate. So, P. Joseph's point is very clear that religions create hate and blind people to see the real truth which people should find for themselves. Alex keeps saying "Peter told me that I am a Christian, and I don't get it" this is so childish&unprofessional.
Peter advocates no religion , so what, Alex advocates texan christianity. Does this mean he should take it personally and crucify Peter on air out of fear and jealousy he feels toward Peter, well, Alex one day Obama deception will reach 150 mil views, one day.
To bring it to a short point, the venus project stands for two things: First: All resources should be shared amongst all human beings without the need of money, which is a very civilized claim. Second: When there is no money, we have to delegate many work to machines as we do right now, but for other reasons. There is no such thing as religion. Everyone can choose the religion he wants. When there is no religion any more, because there is no money any more, what is this religion worth?
Look at what's happening NOW...not yesterday....not tomorrow...but NOW. It's a battle of energies. We can see the evidence of this even w/ Alex and Peter. You DO get to choose Negative (fear) or positive (love). This is the ultimate decision when it comes down to it. NOT about who's right or wrong. Please KNOW THIS.
Just be in a state of LOVE. It's scientifically proven that when you operate in a state of FEAR energy, you become less aware & less able to receive important information within your environment. Remember, FIGHT or FLIGHT: growth stops when YOU stop & fight. Accept the way people have been raised within their environments, cultures, and religions. All over the world, there is more fighting, more anger. In this way you only lose contol & give it to somebody else, possibly the one u speak against.
Listen people. Fuck Mr Jones and Mr Joseph ok? They're intelligent and lucid men with well thought out views, but LOOK INTO IT yourselves before you form your judgements. Think with reason instead of passion.
Hitler and Salin had their own tecno utopia promises, with one world "religion" and total dependencey on world government. The venis project lie is nothing new, just the same Eletist dream to role the world.
@MoreInfo24 It's obvious you don't understand the Venus Project and what it's about. It is not claimed to be a utopia, there is no religion, no form of government as we know it today. It's an attempt to unite the world, there are no positions of power over others. You seriously should do better research on the issue.
after seeing alex interviewing peter joseph and this debunked stuff my views of him became from a fun conspiracy theorist and libertarian activist to a complete asshole
alex became ofended because of his christianity his serious issues with collectivism
Alex is 100% rigth. Peter has a problem of answering how the transition will occur to his perception of what the world should be. He knows this and his reconditioning the individual to what he believes they should be is by 'killing' the individual. Peter is a salesman, hes telling the people that you can have this wonderfull life if you just let me recondition your thoughts. Can you trust him, do you want to be reconditioned?
Hahaha... "They used some clips from the theosophic society and illuminati, and because of that they support these groups", that's basically what he's saying?
Also, about the christians that invented a lot of good stuff... Did they do so BECAUSE they were christians, or did they do so just because they happened to also be smart and inventive?
Ignorance, lack of knowledge has been made clearly evident of hundred thousands of people`s comments on the internet about the Zeitgeist movies. People with subject knowledge do reason out more sensibly then those who have absolutely not even an idea on the subject matter. These are the very people who follow blindly with itching ears the deception presented by the Zeitgeist movies.
Watch out for my book: Does Zeitgeist-Movement Or Barack Obama Have The Answer To World Peace?
loll Alex Jones' attempt to debunk Zeitgeist is perhaps the most ridiculous one I've ever heard. He obviously looked like a fool during the interview with Peter Joseph, got upset that PJ had different opinions than his own.
And this "Debunk" is painful to watch... he's really making a fool of himself because EVERYTHING he's said about it is false.
this is retarded. alex jones is the man, but lets not get crazy hes off on this one and some others. there are many solutions to the system, libertarianism, venus project, libertarian socialism, and variations and others. ima libertarian socialist/resource based economy dude, i just think its the BEST solution. not the only one. fuck the new world order, and zeitgeist is some down stuff, but not completely right. take the best from every revolutionist/think for yourself. zeitgeist is NOT the nwo
Hi, I'm agnostic, I think.. ;) My mrs is Muslim so we talk about this a lot.
I think everyone has their own personal religion. We see spirituality, lifestyle and philosophy in a way that is unique to ourselves.
Organised religion will always naturally degrade into separate sects. The logical continuation of this is that everyone will return to the realisation that there are as many religions as people.
ZG challenges the status quo and so aids the breakdown of idealisms to this end.
i dig alex jones. i am an atheist. i have friends that are muslims, hebrew, rasta, wtf does it matter unless they think you are less of a human for what you believe?
This bloke is about the only normal geezer who speaks on the subject. I don't really give a shit if he's a Christian or not. What I fundamentally believe in is decentralisation of power and I get the vibe that he also believes that ........ decentralisation good ..... centralisation bad.
haha katherine, (and this goes for EVERYONE) figure out your OWN belief structure instead of buying into a falsified document decided upon by the romans in 350 a.d.
any tradition is foolish unless it is developed yourself. thats called being a real free-tthinking individual instead buying into all this garbage
Papal infallibility. The Church owns the planet too by right of Papal Discovery and various treaties. They have millions of willing guillotine attendants just waiting for the word to start chopping heads off the heathen non believers
Even AJ has a version of an audience cult going on. Seen some of the hate videos his followers post?
I think that many of the kids/adults who are anti N.W.O. embrace occult philosophy. Some may view these people as hypocrites, however I do not view them as such. People are leaving the church, the holy bible is not the absolute truth, nor does it provide engaging philosophical knowledge and I think that people are finally waking up to the fact that religion is not helping them but hindering them.
I do not want a NWO that involves exterminating 90% of humans. What i would like to be a part of is a new society, that involves not individualism, but understanding, peace, and co-existence. Alex Jones is not doing the right thing here, and he knows this.
There's a BIG difference between creating a new world order and simply offering an alternative way of doing things. If we are going to criticize anyone or anything that offers solutions or suggest that there's a better way of life than we will NEVER GET ANYWHERE!
When will it all stop? when people become as evil as the days of moses. People are getting away with stealing trillions and then coming back to steal trillions more and then they go have parties at exclusive hotels with expensive champaign, golden tipped glasses. Blasting the music so loud it disturbs church mass going on across the street. Something will happen in the near future
because people wanna turn away from god, and lean in their own ways. why do you think the new age is about the inner self, and becoming god like by attaining wisdom and truth through channeling and meditating. were living in dangerous times my friend
I didn't need part 1 of zeitgeist to tell me religion was fairy tales indoctrinated into our society as history. I did get skeptical about it's sources though and I think the first part of zeitgeist turned a lot of people off. The clip mentioned here is the economic hitman talking from his religious point of view. Religious people turned atheist owned still exclaim "God! What the hell is this?" It's conditioned deep in us by everyone around us as we mimic society.
Alex yes, - you are a super MORON - and had exposed yourself like no one else.. I'm disappointed with you, - I think you just don't get anything. I'll repeat again: YOU ARE AN EGO DRIVEN MORON - nothing ELSE! if you won't agree with the fact that you have short brains and just have some sort of ban from understanding what Peter Joseph means I think you will loose this game and all of your supporters.
The movie did not "attack" religion. It stated the facts. If they don't fit with your brainwashed mentality then you deserve what is coming to you. It is a fact. There is NO GOD as you perceive it in any current religion. It must be hard to try to believe it but it is true whether you believe it or not. I agree with all of the notions of the movie and the need for a new society. It can not be easy to stop believing but you must if you really want to see the truth.
Alex, you are a manipulative egocentric guy! Get out of your box... Evolution - I don't think you ever heard about it!! You are corrupting your audience...
Alex Jones says a lot of credible things in discussions but this is outlandish. He has no idea what he's talking about. This has nothing to do with the NWO. Basically you choose to be forced together by the NWO or you choose to come together as free people with The Venus Project. I'm losing my respect for Alex Jones if he doesn't see how much Zeiteist and NWO contradict each other making them non-related in nearly every way.
He's taking that re-education waayyy out of context. Ales jones asked "what if you took a guy from todays society and put him in your society hundreds of years in the future" and Peter responded saying that the values would be so different, there being no money and no property that he'd probaly have to be re-educated before he hurts himself or loses it. Alex jones is full of shit.
I don't believe everything the venus project says, but they seem to want the world to be a better place.
You know as well as I do that we could live better, and I mean we as humans, not westerners. Half the world is poor as shit because of us!
The Venus Project in now way is absolutely right in their ideas, but they do have the right intentions. They recognize it wouldn't be perfect, as they can't anticipate new issues, but it would be better for all but the elite. Their reign is ending.
No I don't think the people in positions of power with all the money will just give up. Everything that's happening right now is because they're trying to preserve the crumbling system we all run around in like chickens with our heads cut off.
No matter what, nothing will change and the people who are in power will stay in power unless we collectively as citizens become more involved in how our lives are being run for us.
The first step is to make a step into the right direction.
Humanity has the power and technology to live much better lives then we do now. Our lives aren't even that good in the "civilized countries", but they're complete shit in many countries because of us.
No one has the right to say that change has to happen a specific way, but that we need to approach the issues together and become connected globally, not suppressed globally.
In the future we will be much more capable of solving problems that arise, if we can solve the problems we face now.
Why is it, the people who seem to be trying to get info out about the corruption and need for social change, have to fight with each other.
The fact is it's them and their followers who must come TOGETHER to resist these things if we plan on getting anywhere.
Zeitgeist and Venus Project only want people to see for themselves the things that Alex Jones shows and realize the true root cause. Then come together to try to change it, not EXACTLY how they say. They're just the start of good ideas!
TheAlexJonesChannel . You 'think' Peter Joseph looks down on you because of your Texan accent and up bringing. But you are guilty of exactly the same snobbery in the way you mimic his accent. I am not religious and in my opinion, religion requires nothing more than faith, and this in itself can lead to exploitation/corruption. I believe you are both decent people, I'm sure if there is a God, he wouldn't stand in the way of good people trying to do the best for humanity.
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Zeitgeist is a steaming pile of NWO crap.
Axxess7777 8 months ago
ZIonist false flag moderator JONES is cracking!
Syphonaptera 10 months ago
Your fucked in the head.
Ycorporation2010 10 months ago
Krishnamurti disowned the position of 'messiah' that the Theosophical Society groomed him for. His appearance in Addendum is not an endorsement by the Zeitgeist film maker of everything he or the Theosophical Society stands for. Watching 80% of Addendum with the phones ringing is not paying proper attention. "ZDay stormtroppers" ...? Alex Jones' imagination runs wild and he waxes lyrical with paranoid terminology. Lucifer worshippers? The first Zeitgeist movie is not The Zeitgeist Movement.
mellowcotton1 11 months ago
@mellowcotton1 Krishnamurti should change his name, what kind of a sick devil adopts that name without preaching the real essence of the Vedas.
Siva3Enthroned 10 months ago
if their is a devil .
their is a god.
if their is no god,the devil vvins
dongerado 11 months ago
When you start seeing life for what it is, you'll understand Zeitgeist better. The only New World Order is the ego. However; if you want to really see life for what it is, you'll go beyond the Zeitgeist Movement and join the Hanged Man Project.
Google: Kymatica
and watch the 84 min. video.
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For those who've joined or wish to join the movement, ZM is currently running a side project--we wish to gather about 25k members to participate in D-Wave's AQUA research project, through BOINC and for science!
BOINC is a volunteer grid computing system that uses your computer to solve problems. Simply put, you can help researchers with your idle CPU
for those who wish to learn more, Google "The Zeitgeist Movement title=BOINC"
Buybuffalo2 1 year ago
So far, it seems to me like Jones hasn't made the connection between how religion IS part of governmental corruption and control BECUZ he's a Christian!
julzabro 1 year ago
So, you watched the movie and did a 'couple of hours of research' ?
I find it difficult to believe that you did any real research since you are so off base about krishnamurti. As a Christian, isn't it more appropriate that you conduct yourself as one by refraining from harsh and derogatory comments, some that come across very demeaning and hateful. It requires many hours of research if you really cared to see what the Zeitgeist Movement is all about .
wer1planet 1 year ago
Is everyone in America this blind?
TheDprincipal 1 year ago
The iluminati, The NWO, there are piramids. They are a religion!! Unbelievable! Such a folclore
TheDprincipal 1 year ago
and he's not saying that being religous as a person makes you stupid or there isn't a god, because how the hell would he know. but the way society conditions us from birth means that we are susceptible to fall into these 'churches', naive to not use critical thinking against our church because it's a sin and it's all we know. and that dose not make people better or worse than others because you can't change how you are brought up
sildestein 1 year ago
and btw alex your getting the religion thing completely wrong, the point peter joseph is making is the churches and religious establishments are power bent, it's a way of using belief to be fearful as to help control the population and gain power. sorry but if the church was truely christian they would not have been trying to force (via violence) people to follow them. and thats the same with alot of other religious powers in the wolrd. just look at the wars ffs.
sildestein 1 year ago
hes such an idiot.
sildestein 1 year ago
The Zeitgeist films highlight the facts that we all know about the corruption of the system and the fraud of the FED and the banking system. HOWEVER, the Zeitgeist is more of the same, the Venus Project is another system of 100% control over people.
Chain1234 1 year ago
the newest one is pure nwo. just came out today. talkin bout gettin rid of money. pure nwo.
SupremeAmerican 1 year ago
i think he is just jealous of peter lol
TheBillibabu 1 year ago
@TheBillibabu
No, this is quite serious. Research the Zeitgeist Movement. It's total NWO. They want a scientific communism, where there are no nations, no private property, no money, where everything revolves around resources, and where artificial intelligende is in control of society. The first Zeitgeist tricked people into thinking it's anti-NWO. The 2nd and 3rd Zeitgeists reveal it's true nature. The Zeitgeists films are NWO propaganda.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr er.. i have researched!! i am a finance and economics major and i know that the monetary system will not allow people to be ethical as survival in this system is based upon differential advantage.hence i support the movement.we need to abolish the monetary system.btw have u seen the videos where alex interviewed peter?alex was so rude,irrational and aggressive that i was shocked and i am not going to trust anyone who behaves like that with another person.again,i think he is jealous!
TheBillibabu 1 year ago
@TheBillibabu
If you are indeed an economics major you will know you can't abolosh the monetary system, you can only replace it with another form of "money", which is what the resource management stuff is. Honestly, I think you need to step back and actually take a critical look at what the movement is pushing....Scientific Communism or Fascism. That's not freedom and is instead Tyranny.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr tyranny can only occur in the monetary system,because the one with the more money automatically has more power and can exploit others and that is why the resource based economy is so good as it does not give any one individual the power to rule over others! and who said that the monetary system cannot be abolished?its not like that the monetary system always existed! it was a contrivance, an invention which should be made obsolete for a better system!
TheBillibabu 1 year ago
@TheBillibabu
As long as humans have had a society there has been a monetary system. The problem with TZM is that it's a Scientific Dictatorship/Facist society. Tyranny is tyranny. TZM is the NWO. We've all been warned from books like "Brave New World, "1984", and "The New World Order", that this would be a dystopia.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr humans have always had monetary system? who told u that?we had barter system,then people used receipts backed by gold,then came the monetary system. so see systems change.nothing should be fixed forever.we humans should always look for a new and a better system when the current system collapses.i dont like the way the world is,its all messed up.if u can not give any solution to all the problems we have in our world then at least stop belittling others who are doing so!
TheBillibabu 1 year ago
@TheBillibabu
Bartering is money. You trade something of value to another person for something of value to you. TZM is crap. You do realize their goal is to have A.I. (artificial intelligence) in control of everybody. You do realize it is Scientific Communism/Fascism, right?
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr oh and one more thing.if TZM had been NWO then they would not have revealed its secrets in the first zeitgeist movie!! lol!! is it so difficult to understand that??a two-year-old should be able to figure that out!but its ok i understand u probably are a big alex jones fan and are possibly brainwashed by him.plus i think its pointless for us to argue.clearly none of us is changing our opinion.i dont want to keep on coming here to comment & increase the view.so i am done here.ciao.
TheBillibabu 1 year ago
@TheBillibabu
The Zeitgeist movies are the classic "bait-and-switch" scam. The first movie was deisned to capture people who are upset about the current system and people who oppose the NWO. You do know what a bati-and-switch scam is, right? It's like this: "Are you tired of the current political system? Do you want change? Are you opposed to the NWO? Well, join with us, TZM, and embrace our vision of the future.....which is the NWO."
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr What's wrong with asking people if they're fed up with something they probably are and SHOULD BE fed up with? We ARE fed up with the current system....so if someone comes up with a solution we oughta claim it's a trick???
julzabro 1 year ago
@julzabro
Well, we could create A.I. and have it put everyone in the Matrix and that would be a solution, right? Or we could just lobotomize everyone when they are born except for the elite so they can better control us. A lot of different solutions if all you want is a solution.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr There's nothing wrong with wanting a solution to a problem and, obviously, things like lobotomies and AI would be frowned upon. The point I was making is you shouldn't just assume that those who are trying to come up with a solution are enemies without knowing for sure. It is assumptions and misguided theories...i.e fear that keeps us from the truth and, even worse, from each other.
julzabro 1 year ago
@julzabro
Spare me the new-age babble. There's a reason why the VP gang is rubbing elbows with royalty and speaking at U.N.-sponsored events.
TheStarfkr 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr okiedokey.
julzabro 1 year ago
@TheStarfkr I totally agree, I was thinking this throughout my watching of the 3 movies, I smelled the bullshit as soon as they began to push their policy to enslave us further (the Venus Project) in the second film.
Chain1234 1 year ago
Very but very disapointed with Alex. it's sound the he is jealous and cannot take the truth..... I was raised Christian, and i felt that all the oppression comes from the guilt of being born from sin. The truth is that now im free to doubt and think about our religious leaders, that they use fear and guilt to make join the group. Satan is Gods creation.... so he can deal with it.... not us. Leave us Humans alone.
manmachine30 1 year ago
and If the illuminatti existed today im 100% sure it wouldn't be the type of org. that conspiracy theorist make of it in their minds in fact all we know about its purposes is what conspiracy theorists and novelist and dumb people make of it. I'm sure Adam Weishaupt was a decent german who formed a circle of freethinkers to discuss how stupid the church really was back then lol. The real enemies are just the international money traders of today and we know who they are and what they are not.
szopen010101 1 year ago
[cont] in fact, we know so much about the masons that i can deliberately tell you that they're many lodges lack any meaning or purpose and aren't even idealistically cohesive in terms of ritual protocols and rules of admission. For example, british lodges require the belief in a supreme being while french lodges don't give a fuck if ur an atheist, it's like a circle of intellectuals who meet for the hell of it.
szopen010101 1 year ago
btw, the actual "conspirators" aren't neither illuminatti or freemasons. They're just Bilderberg Group and Trilateral Comission financiers and puppet politicians. The freemasons is just a gentleman club with a tendency on privacy that would admit anyone of some sort of social prestige. They're rites and symbols are unfounded on anything and are based only on historical allegories refering to the many recognized myths of the society's foundation by church constructors or "masons."
szopen010101 1 year ago
[cont.] its a german word whose meaning is between mind and spirit? Hegel used it to refer to the general thinking or state of mind of a people in a any given time. Like their cultural awareness or idealistic tendency upon a period in history. It has nothing to do with religion in particularly satanism. Hegel was a philosopher of history not a priest.
szopen010101 1 year ago
Alex Jones as any other christian finds it impossible to accept the irrelevance of religion today. So what does he do? He plays the victim and tries to find sympathy now amongst the religious against Zeitgeist movement. He says that the final mission of Zeitgeist is to replace all world religions with satanism basically. And even misinterprets the word "Zeitgeist" with a spiritual meaning. Did you know the word Zeitgeist was a philosophical term made up by Hegel and the word geist
szopen010101 1 year ago
Whatever anyone below here said, if you are Anti-Religion you are kinda pro-luciferian. The NWO's plan is to destroy ALL Religions (Scientoligy and other made up crap of the last century are not religions, they are cults which go back to satanism) and if there is any rule you need to know of war it is this: The enemy of your enemy is your friend, so behold all the REAL Christians, Muslims and Jews who do not kill eachother as your friends and allies.
xRaz0rGRiZx 1 year ago
Alex Jones is pathetic !
Zeitgeist doesn't "make fun of Christianity" - it simply discredits it [as it should] and it is so obvious that he is some sort of shill for some combination of Christian / Zionist / CIA factions that , when confronted with the fact that Zeitgeist puts an arrow through the heart of these world powers of control , he tries to label it some NWO bullshit in order to satisfy the sheep that listen to his every word !
rolynstone48 1 year ago
venus project is a great idea and if it was possible id be for it but it is impossible because you will not be able to get everyone to sign up for this... and this TZM/venus project is a all or nothing thing
23mbtx23 1 year ago
venus project because it in venus, florida. alex jones is a liar. remember his Y2K lie?
yourmajezty 1 year ago
Alex Jones is a Jesuit and feeds off your fears... I used to watch Alex heavily until I woke up. Zeitgeist is the Illuminati HAHAHA.LOL. Alex is a straight fraud, lets ask him about the Vatican or how about the Nights Of Malta, The Jesuits, International Zionists...
rrought317 1 year ago
It's very very unfair and untrue to put "A push for new world religion" as if it were a quote or view point of the zeitgeist movement. It is not, and never has been. The fundamental ideologies of the zeitgeist movement is to free the world from poverty, war, abhorrent behaviour and crime (hence the monetary system) and allow for a sustainable, efficient and collaborative society. The title of this video already alienates viewers. I would urge everyone to investigate the movement individually.
brucegalliver 1 year ago
ALEX JONES = A very confused little man...
FEAR is all he's about, confusing mixing up. typical. and he cant even admit a lack of knowledge so there loudly out of his mouth is only fear and too much ignorance
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violafinishda 1 year ago
This has nothing to do with religion we need a new system, religion didnt solve the problem religion created wars killed alot of ppl. Alex is probably getting some fat cash of the church thats why he stands behind them...but at least stop screaming ang give the guy a chance to talk....we all know he is alot smarter then you....
BukiBasha 1 year ago
he says "god spirit" in reference to our SOUL. we all ackknowledge that we have a soul. why is that bad? he says happiness comes from CONNECTION; not from money. why is that bad?
moochabod 1 year ago
wait, dude! you are fighting totally irrelivent arguments! this is not about religion! his followers bash your religion, then you bash someone elses religion... isn't there some kind of freedom of religion amendment in the constitution? who gives a shit? lets talk about the system that they propose, and why you appose it.Calling them NWO, when they want no money at all in our society. Clearly NWO wants money in society to control us with.That Is The Whole Point!They have no power, without MONEY!
moochabod 1 year ago
Technocracy is an update of our current system, and will be controlled by the same people who controlled the previous system. A seminar on information warfare could fill it’s time by merely analyzing this movie, with a particular focus on the efficacy of “revelation of the method”. But high quality propaganda must have a great deal of accuracy, according to Bernays, Lippman, and Ellul, and the first half is excellent reservoir of truth:
Blissentia 1 year ago
Z:A is a work of disinformation, since it proposes a neo-technocratic utopia with rhetoric very similar to Maurice Strong. I think the creator knows that his “solutions” are extremely dangerous, and I would not be surprised if he had backing from the Club of Rome, Rockefeller Foundation, or a similar organization. His movie proposes World Socialism, upgrading Marx and Engels with technology, giving revelations about banking that Marx omitted, since banking will be replaced.
Blissentia 1 year ago
@Jmalbran, All organization for the soul purpose of doing Good will get infiltrated by bad people (or as AJ would calls them "Evil"). A good example is the Tea Party organization and look at how Glen Beck is working to destroy this movement.
Rothschild and Clinton are doing the same thing to Zeitgeist. They lore people away from it's true agenda into a false paradise. I'll take my chances with Peter Joseph than anyone who currently supports or controls a Monetary system.
usernet99 1 year ago
i used to have respect for you alex jones were not lucifer worshippers dont put words into our mouths please all your going to achieve with your work is trim the weeds of the garden we need a different system which works don't be so close minded your work is rght but you need to look at the bigger picture our whole social order with money and relious institutes and governments because it ALL clearly doesnt work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ChRiSisAwSoMeSt 1 year ago
Zeitgeist forever... One religion=Science
zingaro9615 1 year ago
Rothchild & Clinton Fundation back Zeitgeist, Period!!!
If you have any doubt about it, reserch it and u will find them "teaching" this shit full of crap!
Those who think Zeitgeist IS a NWO element, thumb up!
Jmalbran 1 year ago
Alex Jones if full of sh*t. Anyone who has watched Zeitgeist will see this is not NEW WORLD ORDER propaganda. Nor is Peter Joseph insulting religion. When I read articles about Alex Jones being a Zionist shill, this video (audio) proves it! He is doing everything he can to lie and distort the truth because Alex wants to keep the current broken Political system going. See articles written by Ted Pike and Brother Nathanael Kapner to get a good understanding of who Alex Jones is really about.
usernet99 1 year ago
new world order ??? yes the new world order want to get ride of their no one weapon MONEY???
christuimbirek 1 year ago
You put on fears.
TertiusOculusOris 1 year ago
The term NWO is an empty distinction. Alex Jones sucks, period. I'm sorry for being blunt and perhaps immature, but he does. He is the worst.
jonnydarkfall 1 year ago
@jonnydarkfall
I used to be a supporter of him, but ever since him ostracizing Peter, I got fucking pissed. Peter NEVER said you were an idiot because you're christian. Zeitgeist is not new world order. I've met Peter in real life, he is no new world order scumbag that I would define.
Germanboy567 1 year ago
hey alex last night i was hanging out with aliens and the real man who shot kennedy and they told me you know too much about thier plans and religion! i would be carefull if i was you
socap01 1 year ago
I used to be a fan of Alex. But recently, his hypocritical agenda has been all about the fear-mongering that he constantly preaches against. This isn't about a new religion. Rather it's about denouncing it being used as a tool to stifle the people, keeping them in line. An Alex fan no more I am.
PGAallDway 1 year ago
hicks eye view. If cartman grew up........
whiterabit09 1 year ago
@whiterabit09 hahahhaha
christuimbirek 1 year ago
Can you stop with you relegan .Sorry are you running for a Pope
amsaback 1 year ago
Jones is clearly making stuff up. What a clown.
navarro066 1 year ago
alex jones is completly missing the point and putting words into Peters mouth.
Goremetalsatan 1 year ago
Zeitgeist is the epitome of international socialism.
LoverOfTruth2010 1 year ago
@LoverOfTruth2010 no its not you idiot look up the venus project thats the end goal
ChRiSisAwSoMeSt 1 year ago
I've seen two film made by the zeitgeist movement. There are some good ideas in it, but overall I want nothing to do with that stuff because it is flatly against anything resembling individual liberty.
The zeitgeist movement is about total control and micromanagement of every thing and every one. Screw that.
Watch the zeitgeist movies, and if you still want to personally have your own automobile, then reject zeitgeist.
JesusDillinger 1 year ago
Jones just isnt capable of comprehending what the zietgeist movement is about. NEW WORLD ORDER JUST MEANS A NEW CIVILISATION IT COULD BE GOOD IT COULD BE BAD, HE JUST CANT SEE PAST THESE SILLY UNEDUCATED CONOTATIONS THAT COME WITH 'NWO'. IF A NEW WORLD ORDER WAS BASED UPON GOOD THINGS IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE WORLD IF IT WAS BASED ON CORRUPT AND IMMORAL IDEAS (LIKE THIS WORLDS ORDER IS)THEN IT WOULD BE BAD.
Im sorry but Alex Jones is fuckin dumb .
just dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
TheHappydead 1 year ago
AIDS WAS CREATED TO REDUCE THE THIRD WORLD POPULATION
420bmxer 1 year ago
Alex, I try my best to give u the benefit of the doubt, but even for a commoner like me who isn't biased to anything, I am sorry to say you are just unable to grasp the essence of the message. This is probably because you are very limited, or very pissed off the fact that your work has been superseded by a much more intelligent work.
vincyjoe4267 1 year ago
Alex Jones, you have lost my respect.
peachdreaming 1 year ago
Now get out there and KILL for your freedom. Kill the engineers, the scientists, and anyone you see in school reading a book outside of class.
p717 1 year ago
It's a shame to see even the most intelligent people to be so closed minded. It's great for Alex Jones to point out the problems of the world, but shameful enough he doesn't even know solutions. Peter Joseph offered him a solution, but Alex just took it as an attack on his beliefs and retaliated. If everyone listened to Alex Jones, we will be back at square one once we got rid of the so-called "rich elite." As long as we keep this system, nothing will change.
S0up3rD0up3r 1 year ago
@S0up3rD0up3r Alex jones isnt intelligent this clip proves that. His hearts in the right place but his mind obviously isnt, i mean hes talking about 'hg wells'..etc and 'zietgeist being a religion' he obviously isnt capable of understanding, which in my book makes him as indroctrinated and close minded as most people. He has no solutions and altho he does some good he is counter productive to the cause, because of his ill informed and reactionary behaviour
TheHappydead 1 year ago
lol Peter and Alex really do dislike one another and Alex certainly goes to great lengths trying to discredit the Zeitgeist Movement, while Peter more or less dismisses Alex as a fear-monger. It's so sad because both men are truly intelligent beings capable of connecting with the masses in a truly unique way. If only they could put their petty ideological differences aside and try to find a common ground they could, in tandem, be capable of great things.
waynewatts 1 year ago
question! what of alex jones footage was featured in zeitgiest? is it extremly obvious or what?
thetimebomb666 1 year ago
alex owns
houstonTx457000 1 year ago
alex jones... not an intellectual, just another nutjob. a somewhat well informed nutjob. he may have a lot of facts and evidence, but he lacks power to interpret those, which i believe is caused by his devotion to his religion. he made the mistake of letting his emotions blind him from the truth, truth only cold hard logic can find.
if he wasnt so obnoxious and loud and annoying, he might make a nice main character in one of the greek-style tragedies. his hamartia, his religion.
UnluckyGambler 1 year ago
Alex shows is that he is afraid Peter from Zeitgeist will replace him and take his livelihood and fame in the process. Sadly, in doing so, he reveals he doesn't really believe in helping the world, just profiting off perpetuating the fears people have about how it works. If he truly cared about the issues he covers, he's be excited to meet a Peter, work with him, and learn through disagreements. Alex Jones is as dangerous as Glenn Beck - the same cold desire for personal success motivates them.
milanchotai 1 year ago
in conclusion..the N.W.O., as described by G.W. Bush himself, will outlaw all organised religions.. ad supplant them with pantheism, or Earth and Nature worship. The dissenter will enjoy the hospitality of the Homeland security gulag, or, be shot where they stand by foreign troops who do not mind killing anyone who is to them, the "other". Resistance is futile and will be fatal.
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nishinabe 1 year ago
One can not reason with lunatics. Meditation frees the spiritual being imprisoned behind the conscious mind or ego, itself incapable of handling more than 26 thoughts a second, the super conscious self, spirit, can handle over 500000 thoughts per second. All contention from the ego mind is wasted energy and emotional illogic from a mentality only 1/6th to 1/9th the full human intellectual potentiality.
Count the breath, concentrate on that alone. Ego recedes. Spirit speaks in clear logical ways.
nishinabe 1 year ago
If you get to know Zeitgeist, than you will see that Zeitgeist have NOTHING to do with religion. furthermore it is the pure religion freedom you could imagine.
for the Alex Jones fans: As well as a chainsaw can be very helpful, it can kill people brutaly. And a New World Order can be slavery and tyranny, but there can be also a New World Order of Peace and Harmony.
Alex Jones is just dumb
FunkLocke 1 year ago
@FunkLocke
Do you pay attention when you're typing? You go from saying that Zeitgeist has "NOTHING to do with religion" to then saying "it is the pure religion" clearly demonstrating a link to religion. The truth is that Zeitgeist DOES have something to do with religion. That something is the rejection of religious messiahs (and religion as a whole) and the promotion of atheism vie the Venus Project.
As for the NWO; it's Luciferian. If you think it's good you've just swallowed their propaganda
owaffs 1 year ago
AJ interviewed Peter Joseph and made an absolute fool of himself.
antennadudedan 1 year ago
Don't get me wrong... I have nothing against any one group. What I do have something against is any devisive teaching, doctrine or dogma that comes from misinterpretation of any scripture from any religion - those that cause you and I to see ourselves as divided or seperate - or that leads us to be disconnected from eachother and the world all of us (humans and animals) live in. It's funny how many religious people have been blinded, and believe they aren't. When truth comes they throw it out!
thatguydayve 1 year ago
Nobody teaches what is actually written in the bible anymore. People just teach dogma's and ideas that have been handed down and taken as truth. This doesn't happen in scientific circles. They look for new solutions and new ways of seeing things, why can't the religious circles be the same? The solution to undoing the damage done by the past errors of organized religion is to become involved in religious circles. You get the wood for the axe to cut the trees down from the forest itself...
thatguydayve 1 year ago
And a world with no class and no central power is a biblical concept, and is NOT evil or bad, it's what we will evolve to be as humans, as a society, and that IS biblical. I don't understand how some religious types get their bible so ass backwards. Even the process of evolution starting from the big bang to even the order life appeared that Darwin described in his theory of evolution is completely biblical and rabbis support that idea.
thatguydayve 1 year ago
And no.. "God" isn't some old man with a beard that lives in the sky. God is the animating force of creation, the engine that runs the universe, the force that permeates everything and everyone...the totality of reality.. Anyone that truly believes and supports humanity and their fellow man thru love IS "saved"...
thatguydayve 1 year ago
As if to slap God in the face, Christianity turned a Jewish messianic figure into an idol. They replaced God with an idol of a god-man and in doing so have forgotten that God has no face or religion. Because of this grossly accepted error in religious interpretation people now fail to see the God in themselves, in others and in the world around us. Yeshua/Jesus clearly stated in the bible only LOVE is valid, EVERYTHING else including religious creed is irrelevant garbage in the eyes of God.
thatguydayve 1 year ago
This video is full of fail, as Zeitgiest the movie did not condone or push for any religion views.
Shroomalator 1 year ago
i like blavatsky,an krishnimarti.but i wont shave my head and hang out at airports
ninjafretshadow 2 years ago
if there was only 1 religion in the world I would believe in it. But there are MILLIONS of religions in which people believe in&all of the religion try to convince people that they are the truth. Doing so, they divide the people and create hate. So, P. Joseph's point is very clear that religions create hate and blind people to see the real truth which people should find for themselves. Alex keeps saying "Peter told me that I am a Christian, and I don't get it" this is so childish&unprofessional.
Impostor82 2 years ago
Alex, you Texan FAT biggot....
Peter advocates no religion , so what, Alex advocates texan christianity. Does this mean he should take it personally and crucify Peter on air out of fear and jealousy he feels toward Peter, well, Alex one day Obama deception will reach 150 mil views, one day.
sivko23 2 years ago
To bring it to a short point, the venus project stands for two things: First: All resources should be shared amongst all human beings without the need of money, which is a very civilized claim. Second: When there is no money, we have to delegate many work to machines as we do right now, but for other reasons. There is no such thing as religion. Everyone can choose the religion he wants. When there is no religion any more, because there is no money any more, what is this religion worth?
Polyamorist1980 2 years ago
Look at what's happening NOW...not yesterday....not tomorrow...but NOW. It's a battle of energies. We can see the evidence of this even w/ Alex and Peter. You DO get to choose Negative (fear) or positive (love). This is the ultimate decision when it comes down to it. NOT about who's right or wrong. Please KNOW THIS.
xSavant 2 years ago
Just be in a state of LOVE. It's scientifically proven that when you operate in a state of FEAR energy, you become less aware & less able to receive important information within your environment. Remember, FIGHT or FLIGHT: growth stops when YOU stop & fight. Accept the way people have been raised within their environments, cultures, and religions. All over the world, there is more fighting, more anger. In this way you only lose contol & give it to somebody else, possibly the one u speak against.
xSavant 2 years ago
Watch all the ZeitGeist dvds and see it evolve.
dgholmz 2 years ago
IF YOU WHANT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT AND THE VENUS PROJECT YOU MUST WATCH: Larry King Interview 1974 (Full Version)
ALUCA6R6 2 years ago
Listen people. Fuck Mr Jones and Mr Joseph ok? They're intelligent and lucid men with well thought out views, but LOOK INTO IT yourselves before you form your judgements. Think with reason instead of passion.
scarletletterman84 2 years ago
Hitler and Salin had their own tecno utopia promises, with one world "religion" and total dependencey on world government. The venis project lie is nothing new, just the same Eletist dream to role the world.
MoreInfo24 2 years ago
Actually the Venus Project has no government and is totally different from Hitler and Stalin views. Research more and don't be so "closed" :)
furion7 2 years ago
@MoreInfo24 It's obvious you don't understand the Venus Project and what it's about. It is not claimed to be a utopia, there is no religion, no form of government as we know it today. It's an attempt to unite the world, there are no positions of power over others. You seriously should do better research on the issue.
RussianAssassin21 2 years ago
Ofcoarse what is being sold to the masses will be different then the reality of the matter.
When there is no money, the power will remain with the owners of the land, weapons, and resources.
All political rule comes from the barrel of a gun.
MoreInfo24 2 years ago
And the Pope will be the head of the NWO. The Pope doesn't really care whether you believe in him or not. Just so long as you obey.
daro2096 1 year ago
Man, you Alex Jones people are ridiculous, driven by fear with no solutions.
RussianAssassin21 1 year ago
it funny when a conspirce nut fight other conspicesy
905rocks 2 years ago
after seeing alex interviewing peter joseph and this debunked stuff my views of him became from a fun conspiracy theorist and libertarian activist to a complete asshole
alex became ofended because of his christianity his serious issues with collectivism
I LOL everytime he says the word LUCIFERIAN
greenhell666 2 years ago
Alex is 100% rigth. Peter has a problem of answering how the transition will occur to his perception of what the world should be. He knows this and his reconditioning the individual to what he believes they should be is by 'killing' the individual. Peter is a salesman, hes telling the people that you can have this wonderfull life if you just let me recondition your thoughts. Can you trust him, do you want to be reconditioned?
pjarosz 2 years ago
I think Alex Jones Work is great but I really think he misses the point of zeitgeist.
TheOneworldonepeople 2 years ago
they want to created a new one world religion to go along with the government.
4mayabell 2 years ago
@4mayabell Wrong.
RussianAssassin21 2 years ago
Hahaha... "They used some clips from the theosophic society and illuminati, and because of that they support these groups", that's basically what he's saying?
Also, about the christians that invented a lot of good stuff... Did they do so BECAUSE they were christians, or did they do so just because they happened to also be smart and inventive?
ladulaser 2 years ago
Peter Joseph is the man! He makes perfect sense... Plz folks open your mind and weigh the facts... You will realize that religion is harmful..
jadivb 2 years ago
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papimerki 2 years ago
alex missing the whole point of the movie,nobody is advocating the abolition of religion,just a new way of thinking
123emser 2 years ago
Cheers!
zetagjm 2 years ago
its the same thing, they want you to question your faith & doubt your affiliations. its the new age movement of the 90's in a brand new cover
yellowbooze 2 years ago
@yellowbooze People should always be questioning their beliefs; people should question everything they see, hear, read, experience. Everything.
RussianAssassin21 2 years ago
Any trivial thing that motivates man into action will eventually breed war.
MrReality0 2 years ago
loll Alex Jones' attempt to debunk Zeitgeist is perhaps the most ridiculous one I've ever heard. He obviously looked like a fool during the interview with Peter Joseph, got upset that PJ had different opinions than his own.
And this "Debunk" is painful to watch... he's really making a fool of himself because EVERYTHING he's said about it is false.
Grow up, Alex... please!
DrunkenLeprechaunPro 2 years ago
this is retarded. alex jones is the man, but lets not get crazy hes off on this one and some others. there are many solutions to the system, libertarianism, venus project, libertarian socialism, and variations and others. ima libertarian socialist/resource based economy dude, i just think its the BEST solution. not the only one. fuck the new world order, and zeitgeist is some down stuff, but not completely right. take the best from every revolutionist/think for yourself. zeitgeist is NOT the nwo
AtheistAnarchoRudi 2 years ago
Hi, I'm agnostic, I think.. ;) My mrs is Muslim so we talk about this a lot.
I think everyone has their own personal religion. We see spirituality, lifestyle and philosophy in a way that is unique to ourselves.
Organised religion will always naturally degrade into separate sects. The logical continuation of this is that everyone will return to the realisation that there are as many religions as people.
ZG challenges the status quo and so aids the breakdown of idealisms to this end.
chailfield 2 years ago
i dig alex jones. i am an atheist. i have friends that are muslims, hebrew, rasta, wtf does it matter unless they think you are less of a human for what you believe?
matsutakneatche 2 years ago
religion is bad, but so is atheism, they both have led to no peace, we have to listen to the Native Americans
tfrenn 2 years ago
This bloke is about the only normal geezer who speaks on the subject. I don't really give a shit if he's a Christian or not. What I fundamentally believe in is decentralisation of power and I get the vibe that he also believes that ........ decentralisation good ..... centralisation bad.
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matsutakneatche 2 years ago
The reason they Attack Christains so hard is due to the Writers being Atheist!
zellymusic 2 years ago
To Johnto117 and other dis-believers
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. Romans 14
kkkkkkatherine 2 years ago
haha katherine, (and this goes for EVERYONE) figure out your OWN belief structure instead of buying into a falsified document decided upon by the romans in 350 a.d.
any tradition is foolish unless it is developed yourself. thats called being a real free-tthinking individual instead buying into all this garbage
FacelessTechnique 2 years ago
LOL alex Jones is a funny man
QuestionsAThousand 2 years ago
fuck god
fuck christ
fuck the holy spirit
johnto117 2 years ago
THE SUN REVOLVES AROUND THE EARTH AND THE EARTH IS THE CENTRE OF THE UNIVERSE!
the church is always right.
arrondee 2 years ago
Papal infallibility. The Church owns the planet too by right of Papal Discovery and various treaties. They have millions of willing guillotine attendants just waiting for the word to start chopping heads off the heathen non believers
Even AJ has a version of an audience cult going on. Seen some of the hate videos his followers post?
Slavestorms 2 years ago
I think that many of the kids/adults who are anti N.W.O. embrace occult philosophy. Some may view these people as hypocrites, however I do not view them as such. People are leaving the church, the holy bible is not the absolute truth, nor does it provide engaging philosophical knowledge and I think that people are finally waking up to the fact that religion is not helping them but hindering them.
SidneyK1111 2 years ago
I do not want a NWO that involves exterminating 90% of humans. What i would like to be a part of is a new society, that involves not individualism, but understanding, peace, and co-existence. Alex Jones is not doing the right thing here, and he knows this.
attykon 2 years ago
good work alex keep going .
they are all wrong they denies JESUS CHRIST .
at the first i saw your material in zeitgiest 1
and i said shame on you , you work with them , but now you make it clear you are christian god bless you
tawfikfarid 2 years ago
There's a BIG difference between creating a new world order and simply offering an alternative way of doing things. If we are going to criticize anyone or anything that offers solutions or suggest that there's a better way of life than we will NEVER GET ANYWHERE!
houdinichad 2 years ago
Why are so many becoming godless these days
Bingie420 2 years ago
When will it all stop? when people become as evil as the days of moses. People are getting away with stealing trillions and then coming back to steal trillions more and then they go have parties at exclusive hotels with expensive champaign, golden tipped glasses. Blasting the music so loud it disturbs church mass going on across the street. Something will happen in the near future
shenmueryu 2 years ago
because people wanna turn away from god, and lean in their own ways. why do you think the new age is about the inner self, and becoming god like by attaining wisdom and truth through channeling and meditating. were living in dangerous times my friend
rockout4lyf 2 years ago
I didn't need part 1 of zeitgeist to tell me religion was fairy tales indoctrinated into our society as history. I did get skeptical about it's sources though and I think the first part of zeitgeist turned a lot of people off. The clip mentioned here is the economic hitman talking from his religious point of view. Religious people turned atheist owned still exclaim "God! What the hell is this?" It's conditioned deep in us by everyone around us as we mimic society.
noname7913 2 years ago
We all look at stuff from diffrent point of view.
Religion, world order, atheist, footbal, and what ever. But the real thing we all belive inn is MONY! Sweet mony and credit
robert1984nor 2 years ago
Alex is so wrong, hi just don't get it ! Peter is so much in higher level then Alex and Alex just can't think outside the box!
resource112 2 years ago
Alex yes, - you are a super MORON - and had exposed yourself like no one else.. I'm disappointed with you, - I think you just don't get anything. I'll repeat again: YOU ARE AN EGO DRIVEN MORON - nothing ELSE! if you won't agree with the fact that you have short brains and just have some sort of ban from understanding what Peter Joseph means I think you will loose this game and all of your supporters.
indyproject 2 years ago
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indyproject 2 years ago
Zeitgeist just wants religion to remove the idiotic dogma and instead have it elevated into the realm of philosophy and ethics.
BlueChipNinja 2 years ago
The movie did not "attack" religion. It stated the facts. If they don't fit with your brainwashed mentality then you deserve what is coming to you. It is a fact. There is NO GOD as you perceive it in any current religion. It must be hard to try to believe it but it is true whether you believe it or not. I agree with all of the notions of the movie and the need for a new society. It can not be easy to stop believing but you must if you really want to see the truth.
NataliaCapel 2 years ago
Feeling connection has nothing to do with religion. Religion is quite the opposite, it wants us to feel divided in order to control us (I think).
ZanyAnton 2 years ago
you have no idea what you are talking about your taking shit out of context and twisting it because you are an ignorant fool
yayo4lyfe 2 years ago
Alex, you are a manipulative egocentric guy! Get out of your box... Evolution - I don't think you ever heard about it!! You are corrupting your audience...
CrystalEagle 2 years ago
Don't mind Zeitgeist, Truth is new religion. Respect no authority, Self control, self sustainability, self judgment of the World around you.
starseed1977 2 years ago
What!? it mentions nothing of a sun cult, he plays that clip right out of context. Alex Jones is getting more and more paranoid by the day.
ChunderChunk 2 years ago
Alex Jones says a lot of credible things in discussions but this is outlandish. He has no idea what he's talking about. This has nothing to do with the NWO. Basically you choose to be forced together by the NWO or you choose to come together as free people with The Venus Project. I'm losing my respect for Alex Jones if he doesn't see how much Zeiteist and NWO contradict each other making them non-related in nearly every way.
EagleEyeKing 2 years ago
He's taking that re-education waayyy out of context. Ales jones asked "what if you took a guy from todays society and put him in your society hundreds of years in the future" and Peter responded saying that the values would be so different, there being no money and no property that he'd probaly have to be re-educated before he hurts himself or loses it. Alex jones is full of shit.
zwest135 2 years ago
Zeitgeist has nothing to do with any religion. They're quite anti religion...they support science...like alot.
zwest135 2 years ago
PJ never called you a moron,
I did.
gavbag1234 2 years ago
I don't believe everything the venus project says, but they seem to want the world to be a better place.
You know as well as I do that we could live better, and I mean we as humans, not westerners. Half the world is poor as shit because of us!
The Venus Project in now way is absolutely right in their ideas, but they do have the right intentions. They recognize it wouldn't be perfect, as they can't anticipate new issues, but it would be better for all but the elite. Their reign is ending.
DRCSBoivin 2 years ago
No I don't think the people in positions of power with all the money will just give up. Everything that's happening right now is because they're trying to preserve the crumbling system we all run around in like chickens with our heads cut off.
No matter what, nothing will change and the people who are in power will stay in power unless we collectively as citizens become more involved in how our lives are being run for us.
The first step is to make a step into the right direction.
DRCSBoivin 2 years ago
Humanity has the power and technology to live much better lives then we do now. Our lives aren't even that good in the "civilized countries", but they're complete shit in many countries because of us.
No one has the right to say that change has to happen a specific way, but that we need to approach the issues together and become connected globally, not suppressed globally.
In the future we will be much more capable of solving problems that arise, if we can solve the problems we face now.
DRCSBoivin 2 years ago
Why is it, the people who seem to be trying to get info out about the corruption and need for social change, have to fight with each other.
The fact is it's them and their followers who must come TOGETHER to resist these things if we plan on getting anywhere.
Zeitgeist and Venus Project only want people to see for themselves the things that Alex Jones shows and realize the true root cause. Then come together to try to change it, not EXACTLY how they say. They're just the start of good ideas!
DRCSBoivin 2 years ago