@sicfuker25 i play thrash and pride myself on playing relatively challenging stuff but thats just not true lol anything can be difficult depending on who's writing it. and improv jazz and tech death are probably across the board harder to play
Holy fuck this takes me back to when I got my Speed Kills compilation cassette through the door when I was fourteen. I was never a fan of the high pitched vocals though. Fucking classic!!!!!!
I still have a knot on the top of my head from Craig's guitar headstock as he and I were headbanging together during this song...I felt no pain! Blondie's in Detroit 1989 opening for Exodus...who's got the time machine?
I have this on VHS and have not seen it in over 20 years, it still gives me chills watching this. One of the most under rated bands of that era. Skill beyond skill and riffs to make you want to choke a bitch.
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these guys r cool and all but this is like the only ripping song on forbidden evil. the rest was boring. i bought this right when it came out. their second cd was way better
I'm not sure if it's the audio or anything, but the bass drums and the bass make it sound really heavy to compliment the guitar parts, and then there's Russ' amazing voice and how he gets the crowd going. Fucking epic.
This takes us all back to a time when a metal band wasn't afraid to play more than 3 detuned chords, strap sex toys to their face, and they didn't think it was cool to buy low-end BC Rich guitars thinking they sound awsome through a Line-6.
Forbidden was insanely heavy. The first time that I hear "Through Eyes of Glass", I was just blown away. And even now...a couple of decades later, it is just as skull crushing!
Yeah! Man...I thought that KD's Abigail freaking smoked! Gave me chills too. The 7th Day of July 1777 and the Black Horsemen. What a wicked album! I liked how Andy's guitar contrasted with Michael Denner. Those were the days of the best metal. Forbidden and King Diamond.
No.....for real....pause it right as 0:24 turns to 0:25 and to the left bottom of the screen you'll see the possesion in his face....he's the guitarplayer on the left
try to pause it right at 0:25.....you'll see that glen alvelais is possesesed....he was the only one at the time still with christian background that allowed him to be overcome by demonic forces......
Since 1985, under the name "Forbidden Evil". They changed their name to just "Forbidden" in '87. Good news is they're touring and writing a new record!
lmao so my friend just sent me the link to this video, and said "I NEVER KNEW YOU WERE THE VOCALIST IN FORBIDDEN!!!!" and sure enough... i look soooo much like this dude... mabey were family or something lmao fucking sick band by the way
Don't do messenger, i do this off a Playstation3. MSN won't work!!! Sorry. I'll send you my e-mail address, you can get me that way. Keep on thrashin!!! Mirror of Death - MENTAL
Hey man, i'd appreciate that. If you get a track on here or a video, let me know and i'll put it on my channel. Anything to help the cause, it'd be a pleasure.
I just checked your MySpace profile and listened to your demo 'Mirror of Death' - Excellent! It's got alot of early Kreator in there! The mid section in the title track was great! I'll send you a friends request, would like to keep track of how you get on. Wish you guys all the luck in the world and your drummers called PsychoGrinder - immense!!! Rock on brother!!! \m/
Exactly man. Totally agree. Very few good bands comin' through these days. No roiginality anymore. Shame - 80's and early 90's rule dude. Absolutely...
HOLY FUCKING BATSHIT! The good old days... How fucking fast did they rattle thru that?!! Awesome. One of the few bands from that era i didn't manage to see in their prime. Absolutley fucking relentless, just the way it should be.
Yeah right Overkill. Thing I loved about this band was his vocals. Got that NWOBHM pointing style to them haven't they. 80's rule dude - we know. Keep it metal brother... Respect \m/
Thrash is making a comeback currently....look at bands like Municipal Waste, Toxic Holocaust, Merciless Death and Fueled By Fire. They're all pretty young and have a large following.
Hell, even "thrash clothing" is making a comeback, the other day I saw a kid with stovepipe jeans, patch vest and reebok BB 4600's at the train station =)
Man, I think they were one of the most underrated thrash bands back then. I think if they would have come along on the scene before Testament, they would have been bigger. No knock to Testament at all, as they were about as good as it got back then, but the two bands are similar and maybe that's why they didn't hit it bigger?? I don't know, but they were great.
I'm with you,tehpown. Those high notes along with the gruff vocals are the shit. He can peel the fuckin paint off the wall with those screams. One of their biggest influences was Judas Priest (they cover Victim of Changes), so do the math...
I somewhat always thought that the vocals could have been toned down a bit. They were too much like Helloween's singer with all the high pitched stuff. I think that may have been there downfall in not getting into the hard scene, they could be big today if it wasn't for those high vocal screams and sh*t. Just my opinion.....
Are you kidding? Those falsetto vocals are what's so great about this band. Otherwise they would just be generic thrash metal band #4535243 in that era
This brings back memories of my local band days. I even remember the original line up. Russ, Matt, Creg, paul , and Glen. I grew up in fremont and they were the shit. Party after party. I was there!!!
Dude, I was there in the late 90's and pray for a comeback. The fact that you're youing and talented gives me hope that there may be a return to great music such as this!!! :) Check out Death, Cynic, Atheist, Sadus etc as well as the European favs such as Kreator et al!!!! Good luck!
I'm chilean and I'm also pissed off about seeing those bloody emos and nu metal gay groups, fortunately there are many kick ass true metal bands which remind us metal is still alive even though exists that lot of shit called melodic genres, a simple justification to play gay music with stupid weeping lyrics for fag teenagers, hail true metal!
This was absolutely THE SHIT in 1990! The guitarists (Glen Alviadis(?) and Craig Locicero) just rip on this whole album, and Russ Anderson's high notes rule.Hard to find, out of print...
man I wished it was 1980 again! I hate this poser nu-metal,emo,gayfag scene! I am 16 years old and I love thrashmetal! why don't we get out guitars and make stuff like this again!! ALL HAIL!!!
I have this on VHS STILL!.. It will never leave my collection. Granted I wish I had the software to port it over to my pc... lol
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shillen154 8 months ago
6 people gonna were pozers and fucked into pit at 1:27 FORBIDDEN RULES!
billaras992 10 months ago 5
my fav album of all time!!!
DAH369metho 11 months ago 2
fucking classic!
898967671 11 months ago
need more singers like this nowadays, seems all metal bands just want to scream like fags nowadays
EnterTheTurmoil 1 year ago 2
with this video you can see that thrash metal is the most difficult genre of music to play ever....THRASH TILL DEATH!
sicfuker25 1 year ago
@sicfuker25 i play thrash and pride myself on playing relatively challenging stuff but thats just not true lol anything can be difficult depending on who's writing it. and improv jazz and tech death are probably across the board harder to play
FxOxAxDx 1 year ago
Holy fuck this takes me back to when I got my Speed Kills compilation cassette through the door when I was fourteen. I was never a fan of the high pitched vocals though. Fucking classic!!!!!!
klee66 1 year ago
I`ve got this one too. The Trocadero in Philly is where this was done. Death and Dark Angel were in this venue as well.
Good work friend!
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6 nuckle heads with thumbs down.Forbidden rules morons,lol.
littlebearkni 1 year ago
6 nucle heads with thumbs down.Forbidden rules morons,lol.
littlebearkni 1 year ago
Oh Russ....you used to be so great.....what happened?
shreddeth7 1 year ago
@shreddeth7 - does 20 years older than back then says something to you?
Stop crying.
DaSmooth 1 year ago
@DaSmooth I was just saying that he used to be so good, and that I wish his voice had held up better over time. No need to be a cock. :P
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Who's that cool guy dancing at 1:45 in the back? hahaha, what the fuck..
Tombking2 1 year ago
Who's that cool guy dancing at 1:55 in the back? hahaha, what the fuck..
Tombking2 1 year ago
1:25 that IS a moshpit!!
killywea 1 year ago
@killywea you want to see a moshpit? check obituary's turned inside out at the marquee early 90's or sacred reich's death squad at dynamo late 80's
glasgowdmon 1 year ago
Recuerdo que la primera vez que lo vi fue en el canal 27 uhf entre 1989 y 1990,de la puta madre.....grande Forbidden.....
jairzinho1974 1 year ago
I love this.
/J
40+, house, kids
json36 1 year ago
welcome to the church of lies!!!!
RiseToOffend 1 year ago
Who's on guitar duties? Tim or Glen?
ZeroMurasame 1 year ago
Who's on guitar duties? Tim or Glen?
ZeroMurasame 1 year ago
I still have a knot on the top of my head from Craig's guitar headstock as he and I were headbanging together during this song...I felt no pain! Blondie's in Detroit 1989 opening for Exodus...who's got the time machine?
bobottobob 1 year ago
I have this on VHS and have not seen it in over 20 years, it still gives me chills watching this. One of the most under rated bands of that era. Skill beyond skill and riffs to make you want to choke a bitch.
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TheMetalMaestro 2 years ago
Love Forbidden. Sounds like Sebastian Bach fronting Slayer (a good thing).
Fuzzpilots 2 years ago 4
@Fuzzpilots it really does...
yusifer 1 year ago
Gods of thrash \m/
skuul666 2 years ago 4
FUCK YEAH!
Trollfresser 2 years ago 2
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these guys r cool and all but this is like the only ripping song on forbidden evil. the rest was boring. i bought this right when it came out. their second cd was way better
ryanamays 2 years ago
absolutely best ver.
sukosi 2 years ago
forbiden es una de las mejores bandas de thrash que he escuchado
seycken7 2 years ago
One of the best THRASH bands on planet Earth... :)
Lustmord1970 2 years ago 3
Russ was by far one of the best metal vocalists of late 80s, awesome stuff!
mk1gte 2 years ago 2
i yoused to have this on v.h.s. it was one of my favoret vids his voice was amazing back then.....................
JAYJAY3900 2 years ago
God FORBIDDEN fuckin owns, so fucking amazing!
MetalChaliceTv 2 years ago 4
I'm not sure if it's the audio or anything, but the bass drums and the bass make it sound really heavy to compliment the guitar parts, and then there's Russ' amazing voice and how he gets the crowd going. Fucking epic.
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
This takes us all back to a time when a metal band wasn't afraid to play more than 3 detuned chords, strap sex toys to their face, and they didn't think it was cool to buy low-end BC Rich guitars thinking they sound awsome through a Line-6.
skot373 2 years ago 4
lol, you just described the rig I have because of my inexperience in guitars/music.
lol BC Rich+Line 6=FAIL
ChadLikesGuitars 2 years ago 2
Le - Gends!
forbiddenevil1 2 years ago
the blonde chuck billy ! :P
deraickripper 2 years ago
His hair's red and he's really not that similar vocally to Chuck Billy.. they just both front thrash bands.
SchizoForte 2 years ago
deraickripper probably meant that Russ is a monster singer just as Billy is!
I guess!
burninglegions 2 years ago
even better!
peeewt 2 years ago
I saw them last night in London - STAGE DIVING ALLOWED - they fucking destroyed.
Legends.
BilloRaptor 2 years ago
weLcome to the church of Lie$!!!!
one of the better bay area thrash
bands of the late 80s' earLY 90s'
and that's sayin' something.
tomcornhole 2 years ago
0.17 - 0.22
Insane!
BrianMadsen 2 years ago
Forbidden was insanely heavy. The first time that I hear "Through Eyes of Glass", I was just blown away. And even now...a couple of decades later, it is just as skull crushing!
cmonsterz 2 years ago 2
I was just waiting for someone to mention that song, its a masterpiece!! :)
cd0u50c9 2 years ago
Yeah...a full on thrashsterpiece! That was a pretty amazing time in metal. Man...how things have changed.
cmonsterz 2 years ago 3
@cmonsterz That song makes me invision if King Diamond's 'Abigail' lineup played Thrash Metal. It has the same chilling feeling in the guitar tune.
ChevoB 9 months ago
@ChevoB
Yeah! Man...I thought that KD's Abigail freaking smoked! Gave me chills too. The 7th Day of July 1777 and the Black Horsemen. What a wicked album! I liked how Andy's guitar contrasted with Michael Denner. Those were the days of the best metal. Forbidden and King Diamond.
cmonsterz 9 months ago
hahahahahahahaha XD dude dancing in the audience
youreallcrackheads 2 years ago
q tema tan aspero forbidden deslie cerebros y rompe oidos
Jonathan777thrash 2 years ago
This just kicks ass, period.
-Jules
jbilotta 2 years ago
1:47 UGH! hardcore dancers sigh...
Progmetalrules 2 years ago
It's extremely heavy!
Esprcially Paul Bostaph on the drums
Kodoha 2 years ago
What happened to the film clip of this song that was up?
It had some of this footage in it.
bg183333 3 years ago
Why'd he have to go and ruin a good guitar?
KissMeImPunk 3 years ago
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SchizoForte 3 years ago
Doesn´t get much better than this. Fantastic thrash band, one of my top 5 thrash albums of all time "Forbidden Evil".
vaoparaocaralho 3 years ago
I wish I was at Ultimate Revenge 1 with Slayer, Exodus, and Venom. my dad went when he was 15.
gbncsrht 3 years ago 4
hes one lucky man. wish i was there
hiramspm 3 years ago
Proper metal. End of.
yusifer 3 years ago
CHALICE OF BLOOD!
Awesome song from an awesome album AND band!
Persemb 3 years ago
This makes me wanna be born 1975
tonicmass 3 years ago
badass ending dude
DETH000666 3 years ago
Man that's good, Russ can really wail!
(Obscure Wayne's World references FTW!)
PirateYoshi 3 years ago
he he ... not anymore , still great band
tonicmass 3 years ago 4
Ah I see what you mean, I just watched a vid from 2008 - what happened to his voice?! D=
PirateYoshi 3 years ago
now thats a pretty sick pit, nooo pussies there! THRASH METAL!
maidenkid84 3 years ago
No.....for real....pause it right as 0:24 turns to 0:25 and to the left bottom of the screen you'll see the possesion in his face....he's the guitarplayer on the left
......it's all in a fraction of a second...
woi2ld 3 years ago 14
Dude, you rule for noticing that!
jm1072 3 years ago 4
OMG
ITS A FUCKING MONSTER
Boldark 3 years ago 4
haha what the hell
peeewt 3 years ago 3
@woi2ld It´s Toasty! jojo
LokoParra 1 year ago
@woi2ld lol, you're right. He's a fucking demon right there.
Peatman 1 year ago
@woi2ld hahahah!
karter005 1 year ago
@woi2ld whats on 0:24?
KiroStun 6 months ago
@woi2ld
That's awe, that's not 'possession'. Saw these guys on the FE tour in tiny dump of a place in DC. Maybe 75 of us. Crunchy goodness.
Knepperify1 6 months ago
try to pause it right at 0:25.....you'll see that glen alvelais is possesesed....he was the only one at the time still with christian background that allowed him to be overcome by demonic forces......
woi2ld 3 years ago
Nothing's up..
KissMeImPunk 3 years ago
I just have to ask this. Since what year has this band been around? It doesn't sound or look like a band formed in this century.
HitTheNote 3 years ago
Since 1985, under the name "Forbidden Evil". They changed their name to just "Forbidden" in '87. Good news is they're touring and writing a new record!
DGYDP 3 years ago
Thanks.
It really sounds like a band I must know more about. But so far it seems, that even Sanctuary is more known than this:)
HitTheNote 3 years ago
incredible how amazing pipes Russ Anderson had backin the day!.....wow!!
mordacis666 3 years ago
how old is this video? I remember the singer being a lot bigger back in the day
Putreffy 3 years ago
i thought this was in 1989
Orlyowl8 3 years ago
metaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, FUK YEAH
tractor666 3 years ago
Most underrated band ever...at least for the first album then
Sjaakstuurman 3 years ago
thrash fucking metal!
LachoDroogie 3 years ago
man that is some ball clenching high notes
adalstan 3 years ago 2
lmao so my friend just sent me the link to this video, and said "I NEVER KNEW YOU WERE THE VOCALIST IN FORBIDDEN!!!!" and sure enough... i look soooo much like this dude... mabey were family or something lmao fucking sick band by the way
run4yourlivesmosher 3 years ago
this is from a vhs tape called ultimate revenge 2.this rocks! the tape also includes a very early version of death and a young chuck shuldiner.
DIMEDAMAGE 3 years ago 2
Awesome friggin tape! we used to have it!
Makdjor 3 years ago
FORBIDDEN DESTROY YOUR ASS!!!!
tankardzombieattack 3 years ago
Nice powerpop. Popping and powerful.
Casar1973 3 years ago
OMG best vocals (the scream) ive ever heard!
nemesisevil202 3 years ago
one of the best thrash-songs ever....Russ´s vocals are !!!!!
mordacis666 4 years ago
Don't do messenger, i do this off a Playstation3. MSN won't work!!! Sorry. I'll send you my e-mail address, you can get me that way. Keep on thrashin!!! Mirror of Death - MENTAL
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
Nice one dude. Keep me posted and ACCEPT MY FRIEND INVITE!!! Cheerz!
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
I fucking love forbidden. So happy they've reformed. One of the main reasons I my friends and I formed a band.
ledgretaris 4 years ago
Hey man, i'd appreciate that. If you get a track on here or a video, let me know and i'll put it on my channel. Anything to help the cause, it'd be a pleasure.
THRASH 'TILL DEATH!!!
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
I just checked your MySpace profile and listened to your demo 'Mirror of Death' - Excellent! It's got alot of early Kreator in there! The mid section in the title track was great! I'll send you a friends request, would like to keep track of how you get on. Wish you guys all the luck in the world and your drummers called PsychoGrinder - immense!!! Rock on brother!!! \m/
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
Will write that down and look it up sometime when i get a minute! Thanks brother! Rock on...
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
Exactly man. Totally agree. Very few good bands comin' through these days. No roiginality anymore. Shame - 80's and early 90's rule dude. Absolutely...
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
Notice how they get faster for verse2... Amazing...
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
Proper headbanging music. Beer, hair and bad clothes - proper metal. None of this new bullshit - keep it fucking raw! \m/
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
As it should be brother... Good friendly violent fun all the way... ;o)
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
How fucking awesome is this live!?
JediKeSula 4 years ago 3
Its soooo fast lol. If you can find them demo version of this and then compare it to this version, its like doubletime! I love this version.
MetalKen 4 years ago
HOLY FUCKING BATSHIT! The good old days... How fucking fast did they rattle thru that?!! Awesome. One of the few bands from that era i didn't manage to see in their prime. Absolutley fucking relentless, just the way it should be.
BAY AREA RULES FOREVER!!!
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
once again awsome singing and great guitar work,80's rule
Overkill02021 4 years ago 2
Yeah right Overkill. Thing I loved about this band was his vocals. Got that NWOBHM pointing style to them haven't they. 80's rule dude - we know. Keep it metal brother... Respect \m/
BilloRaptor 4 years ago
RIC! Es al bajista!!
polekfumon 4 years ago
ahhh. Total thrash assult.... the only way i'd like to be assulted...just kidding. but not really. AWESOME SONG!!!! \m/
1968LEDZEP1980 4 years ago
\m/ fucking legends
DirtyPriest16 4 years ago 2
Hail Forbidden, I'll see them at Graspop.
DGYDP 4 years ago
OMG i´ve f***ng got a hard on! haha LOVE
dirtyichikiller 4 years ago 2
Forbidden confirmed for Graspop 2008 (along with Maiden and Priest), fucking awesome!
tehpown 4 years ago
LOL Back in the day LOTS of girls likied thrash but most were speed freaks! LMFAO
syndrome1965 4 years ago
I know of no girl who listens to metal at where i live haha.
the emo scene is plaguing my land.
kormskanner 4 years ago 3
yeah same here... GET ME BACK TO 80's!
peeewt 4 years ago 6
i want be in the 80's too!!!
hagenzxx 2 years ago
Tell the emos to cut their wrists harder!! hehe
ancientmariner1984 4 years ago 2
damn that sucks dude. just keep thrashing to forbidden, vio-lence, testament and all the googd thrash basicaly 80's thrash
victorlovesslayer 4 years ago
yeah, im into the old school stuff.
priest maiden vio artillery (:
kormskanner 4 years ago
i'm 14 years old (started with metal when i was 13) and i hate nu metal/metalcore/emo fag crap and such.
Hail Forbidden!
Hail real metal!
calastiur 4 years ago 5
Actually this was a riff that Robb Flynn (Vio-lence, Machine Head) came up with before leaving Forbidden.
X1xone 4 years ago
Damn, this song has the most crushing rhythm, Paul Bostaph is so under-rated still!
Craig's riffs freaking kill!
chickenblaster 4 years ago
jesus christ, what band has paul bostaph not been in?
Gorva11 4 years ago
Thrash is making a comeback currently....look at bands like Municipal Waste, Toxic Holocaust, Merciless Death and Fueled By Fire. They're all pretty young and have a large following.
Hell, even "thrash clothing" is making a comeback, the other day I saw a kid with stovepipe jeans, patch vest and reebok BB 4600's at the train station =)
Bulltaurus 4 years ago
Man, I think they were one of the most underrated thrash bands back then. I think if they would have come along on the scene before Testament, they would have been bigger. No knock to Testament at all, as they were about as good as it got back then, but the two bands are similar and maybe that's why they didn't hit it bigger?? I don't know, but they were great.
troy92850 4 years ago
I'm with you,tehpown. Those high notes along with the gruff vocals are the shit. He can peel the fuckin paint off the wall with those screams. One of their biggest influences was Judas Priest (they cover Victim of Changes), so do the math...
neurosisfan 4 years ago
I somewhat always thought that the vocals could have been toned down a bit. They were too much like Helloween's singer with all the high pitched stuff. I think that may have been there downfall in not getting into the hard scene, they could be big today if it wasn't for those high vocal screams and sh*t. Just my opinion.....
cykovisuals 4 years ago
Are you kidding? Those falsetto vocals are what's so great about this band. Otherwise they would just be generic thrash metal band #4535243 in that era
tehpown 4 years ago
This brings back memories of my local band days. I even remember the original line up. Russ, Matt, Creg, paul , and Glen. I grew up in fremont and they were the shit. Party after party. I was there!!!
rosebud71 4 years ago
Dude, I was there in the late 90's and pray for a comeback. The fact that you're youing and talented gives me hope that there may be a return to great music such as this!!! :) Check out Death, Cynic, Atheist, Sadus etc as well as the European favs such as Kreator et al!!!! Good luck!
sosnam 4 years ago
I'm chilean and I'm also pissed off about seeing those bloody emos and nu metal gay groups, fortunately there are many kick ass true metal bands which remind us metal is still alive even though exists that lot of shit called melodic genres, a simple justification to play gay music with stupid weeping lyrics for fag teenagers, hail true metal!
Murchadha215 4 years ago
amen brother
Garkar2006 4 years ago
Welcome To The Church Of Lies
iamadeathmetaller 4 years ago 2
This was absolutely THE SHIT in 1990! The guitarists (Glen Alviadis(?) and Craig Locicero) just rip on this whole album, and Russ Anderson's high notes rule.Hard to find, out of print...
neurosisfan 4 years ago
Somebody should make the Combat Tour 3: The Ultimate Revenge For EMO, with bands like Destruction, Sodom, etc...
rawmeatiamthedeath 4 years ago
man I wished it was 1980 again! I hate this poser nu-metal,emo,gayfag scene! I am 16 years old and I love thrashmetal! why don't we get out guitars and make stuff like this again!! ALL HAIL!!!
phantomlord91 4 years ago
I 100% agree with you! Thrash is the only way to be!!!
rawmeatiamthedeath 4 years ago
long live thrash
Henrik987 4 years ago
did see them on tour with sacred reigh(i think) not sure when but 90 -91 in copenhagen
anders2601 4 years ago
soooo gooood
somewereintime 5 years ago
so intense
heartbeatjohnson 5 years ago
Best Fucking video on youtube. for sure,
thrashmeta1 5 years ago
Great energy, killer thrash, thats for sure
islandrocks 5 years ago
mitici forbidden!!
Demone666metal 5 years ago
Fuck yeah, i saw this about 13 years ago never thought I'd see it again, internet fuckin rocks...Eyes of glass.....
1DeathWalkingTerror1 4 years ago