You're right. I've heard comments on their ease of driving. I don't mind them; I'd just prefer something else. These are lower and feel like a minivan, to me. But they are some nice buses. I do like the way they ride and cruise. But I wouldn't want one permanently, to drive or ride.
They are ok. Just not as great as a Ford or an IC, but they are some nice buses. Ours have proven themselves to me, but also let me down several times.
That's true, lol. This one had the 6.7. Some of my other videos have the 5.9 in them. Both are great. Just think of a B700 with a 6.7, lol. That'd be a beast.
Alright buddy boy, you are coming at the wrong person about this. My driver was driving the bus and she didn't do anything wrong. How is doing the speed limit of 55 flying? She didn't pass the students; she got even with them so she could motion them across. When you drive on a highway, you can wait if you want but 18-wheelers won't wait. My drivers were told it's their discretion on waiting or not.
Furthermore, I don't appreciate you talking about my driver like you did and make the comments about taking away her license. She's been driving since 1980 and has never been in an accident and protected her students when a parents threatened to kill her and everyone on board of the bus. She protected her kids.
As for the speed; the speed limit was 55 and if you look closely, she was doing 55.
Before you comment back on any other video of mine, a friend of mine, or another school bus video know the situation and think about it. As I said, I don't appreciate the comments made about my driver. She has nothing on her record of anything bad. I don't apologize for what I said, but I do for being rude.
To keep this off of the video, send me a message if you want to further discuss this.
@9sb19 The Mercedes C2s are nice. They got about the same 0-45 time as the 6.7L Cummins (thanks a lot, EPA regulations) and had a much nicer sounding exhaust
Thanks, I honestly hated it and I collected a few pieces of glass on the floor, and I still got it. But I hated it. Now my loved bus is trapped in the lot, and they don't, or won't, use it on trips.
Yeah, it's my IC. It's trapped in the lot because my new driver can't take it home. I like it in the lot so it's protected, but out of the lot it had no chance to be touched by another driver.
@9sb19 Yeah the really good A/C buses I find are the ones like the one I have now, the 2010. It's got the central unit that runs down the center of the bus instead of the one or two big units to add on to it. The central units run great. Also I have a little module for mine that adds in like an auto-climate control. Pretty neat if I do say so myself.
@9sb19 Yeah that's what I mean to say. Anyway, I kinda need the A/C because I've got a few lung problems that started developing back before we got the C2s (the school board got all 7 that they have at once). But nevertheless the lung issues was from all the dirt flying up in my face and inhalation of that dirt because these roads back here are terrible - especially when dry. So that's the only reason they made sure I had one with A/C. Plus it's great because it gets hot here in Louisiana.
Oh ok, well that's cool. Well then yes you need them. It gets very hot and dusty here, but we have to tough it out. I'm not dissing you, but it's how my board is.
That was sarcasum. This bus, 68, we're using because 5 is in the shop. 5 is my afterschool bus. It has a bad oil leak on it and the shop can't locate it, so it's being sent to Jackson at the Internationals dealer to be serviced.
For some reason, bad wiring, the windshield wipers will randomly come on, go across two or three times, and cut off. Several times in route. But it's been worse lately.
@schindlerman96 Are you in a rural district? When I drove for Shreveport I never had the squealing problem but now that I drive on a rural route I have that problem. I'm always running a quick-light pressure wash on my brakes to stop that temporarily.
I'm in a very rural district, but we haul several thousand kids. I'd say maybe close to 4 thousand. Lol, usually it's just the brakes them self, lol. Mine are from a hard driver.
my bus company we have has a lot of 08 and 09 c2s but now they are renting out buses from a bus rental company which we have about 6 and they are all 2011s. The 2011s interior and some new features but as i comented before every ones brakes go very quick
Yeah, because they're made cheaper and cheaper and faster just to get them to sell. We only have 2008 and 2009 model C2s, but the actual date on the bodies are 2007 and 2008.
@9sb19 the whole point of the C2 was to be a cheap bus. That's another reason I don't like them. 85k is alot cheaper for a bus compaired to 150-200k. Still a dog house on wheels no matter what they do to it.
And I don't think I've seen a stop with kids crossing the street since I was in 2nd grade. my stop was the only one that had kids cross the street. Nowadays it's not allowed here. All our routes are made so the bus picks up on the same side the kids are.
I do agree with you, but the price my district is forking over for these Thomases, EFs and C2s, is unreal.. compared to the IC FEs and CEs we have. The last three buses we got, two EFs and one C2, were speced out completely. They were over 100 grand a pop. Now, compare that to what an IC or Blue Bird would cost, specs included.
I've heard of that being done. If you don't mind me asking, where are you from? We have some routes, like my afternoon one, that's nothing but crossing the highway.
I've on a C2 from time to time. I don't mind them. I do have a respct for them and I prefer them to the Vision. It's just, to me they're not as great as the CE may be. But they're better in some other places, too.
Tennessee State Law does state that bus drivers are supposed to put the bus in Neutral and then apply the parking brake. But, in the driver's spot, we're on a highway with countless truckers doing 60+ and we have to get moving very quick. Plus it's very time consuming. But they are supposed to.
Well honestly the reason the C2's are having so many problems right now is because they are new. Once they are used a lot more, more problems will be fixed and what not. It won't take that long for the C2 to be literally the best on the road in all aspects what so ever.
Yeah, you're right. They are a newer brand of bus. But with some of ours having over 40 thousand miles on them and being a 2008, some bugs should be worked out. But it's just the same with the new IC CEs, they all have bugs, but you're right.
@9sb19 Well I have a 2010 and there aren't near the bugs that I see other drivers having in the older models. I mean the air condition is better in this than in the one that the school board originally supplised for me and there are all sorts of passenger luxuries that I've run the extra mile for. And that's just in the difference from '08 to '10. I mean they're just early models of an all new type of bus that has never been perfected.
Yeah, I completely agree with you. My shop will spec our buses very highly, but they lack care for them. We've been like you, specing the buses higher and higher, but the company is still having bugs in their buses. That's what I'm saying. Bugs on the bus should try to be limited to little or absolutely none at all, if it can be. But my shop doesn't care. Right now we've got a C2 with duckt tape holding the back glass in.
@9sb19 Sorry I didn't reply sooner, haven't been able to get on for a while for some reason then I forgot to check my comments. LOL Anyway, I could never do that - partially because the school board would fire me in a heart beat and I truly love my job. Anyway, I wouldn't want to though - I had a fight in the back of my bus in December that busted one of my windows - hated that I had to drive about 10 more miles with kids on - thank God I was dropping off the morning route. And I think part of
@9sb19 my luck is the fact that I care about my bus - I keep it maintained in every way possible. I couldn't sleep at night if even one light was out on the bus. Also another problem with older models is that there is a box before the main circuit and if it gets hit a certain way it'll shut the whole bus down.
I'm like you! It kills me to know my bus is not taken care of. When I'm older, I'll treat it better than myself, lol. It's irks me.
I plan to take care of the buses, too, better. I want to be a mechanic and director for a fleet and I plan to show them care and passion for busing, lol. Here, they'll make a driver do the route with a blown computer making no lights or gauges work at all. Glass busted and out. Drive after a wreck; it's ridiculous. I hate it.
@9sb19 But it just disturbs me that someone can drive a bus knowing that so many children's lives are in their hands and not say something when the school board wants them to oh say drive a wrecked bus like you mentioned.
@tighmir, I am going to give you a big thanks. The person recording was me, Jerred. I am from Tennessee, about 50 miles on I-40 from Memphis. I was just raised, and I guess it was, the right way. Tough and stern.
We've had some where the doors would completely not respond to the controls; meaning the door control switch and the emergency release switch. Others where the stop signs, dual, wouldn't want to come out, but would flash. Some wouldn't start.
Yeah, for some odd reason, they'd choose not to start.
That sucks. It's kind of what our C2s were doing. You'd have the bus in route and the door would quit working. Or wouldn't open up. My friend's mom got a C2 last year to drive on a trip and when she got it back to her house she turned the bus off with the door open and while she was getting her things, the door shut and locked and wouldn't open. She said she flipped the release and control switch, then it finally opened up.
THe top speed of this bus, being an activity bus and a spare bus, the top speed would be some where between 75 and 85. But probably around 83 or so.
I'd drove a bus before, and honestly, they are very easy to drive. It's so easy and natural for me. Easiest way I can think of how to explain it to you like others have told me, is it's like an over sized mini van that turns and drives slower.
They can be some good buses, but we have had some problems with them. Overall, they are ok.
She prefers my IC CE by far compared to the C2. She was just saying she liked how sensitive the warning lights were, door control too, and how you can be doing 85 and throw the ambers on while the CEs have to be under 45.
They look wierd but I have to admit they are easy to drive
sneezabonk 4 months ago
You're right. I've heard comments on their ease of driving. I don't mind them; I'd just prefer something else. These are lower and feel like a minivan, to me. But they are some nice buses. I do like the way they ride and cruise. But I wouldn't want one permanently, to drive or ride.
9sb19 4 months ago
I drove one today....I used to didn't like them, but now i think I do lol!
634524 5 months ago
Aw no! Shame on you!
They are ok. Just not as great as a Ford or an IC, but they are some nice buses. Ours have proven themselves to me, but also let me down several times.
9sb19 4 months ago
@9sb19 The Cummins is beast either way lol! Whether its the 6.7 or the 5.9
634524 4 months ago
That's true, lol. This one had the 6.7. Some of my other videos have the 5.9 in them. Both are great. Just think of a B700 with a 6.7, lol. That'd be a beast.
9sb19 4 months ago
@9sb19 I think it would be a lil too much power for the Ford lmfao!
634524 4 months ago
Nah, the Fords would love that to death!
9sb19 3 months ago
yall stop giving this guy a hard time @9sb191 i appreciate what you do for us and keep it up love your videos :)
patlumbard 5 months ago
I do apologize. What I said was rude and a little too far, but I don't appreciate it one bit about my old driver.
No need to thank me, lol. And my videos are horrible, lol. Thanks though. :P
9sb19 5 months ago
@9sb19 Hey we're human everyone does i know i have and btw i enjoy your videos keep it up
patlumbard 5 months ago
I don't see how you do. I don't see any good in them at all. Thanks though. I'll try to make them better this year.
9sb19 5 months ago
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Organphantomjd 7 months ago
Alright buddy boy, you are coming at the wrong person about this. My driver was driving the bus and she didn't do anything wrong. How is doing the speed limit of 55 flying? She didn't pass the students; she got even with them so she could motion them across. When you drive on a highway, you can wait if you want but 18-wheelers won't wait. My drivers were told it's their discretion on waiting or not.
9sb19 6 months ago
Furthermore, I don't appreciate you talking about my driver like you did and make the comments about taking away her license. She's been driving since 1980 and has never been in an accident and protected her students when a parents threatened to kill her and everyone on board of the bus. She protected her kids.
As for the speed; the speed limit was 55 and if you look closely, she was doing 55.
9sb19 6 months ago
Before you comment back on any other video of mine, a friend of mine, or another school bus video know the situation and think about it. As I said, I don't appreciate the comments made about my driver. She has nothing on her record of anything bad. I don't apologize for what I said, but I do for being rude.
To keep this off of the video, send me a message if you want to further discuss this.
9sb19 6 months ago
@Organphantomjd
Hey you are aware that u have posted this twice? on two different bus vids? dude chill i think the driver has done pretty dang good
dorado1221 5 months ago
What was the other video he said that on? He's pissed me off.
9sb19 5 months ago
Looks like a Freightliner.
Thinker669 7 months ago
It is. It's a Thomas C2; a Freightliner.
9sb19 6 months ago
Did you ever drive a c2 with mbe900 instead of cummins ?
fred471 10 months ago
No sir. All of ours have the Cummins in them. From the 5.9 to the hummin' 6.7. We've yet to have a Mercedes or Cat in our fleet.
9sb19 10 months ago
@fred471 I have
aeastman16 7 months ago
How are they? Our Cummins have been really good in the buses we have here.
9sb19 6 months ago
@9sb19 The Mercedes C2s are nice. They got about the same 0-45 time as the 6.7L Cummins (thanks a lot, EPA regulations) and had a much nicer sounding exhaust
aeastman16 6 months ago
That's cool. I was wondering because I've heard mixed things about the MBEs.
9sb19 5 months ago
You must be loved by many drivers!!
1001kp 1 year ago
Loved by many, hated by a few. I love it. I know more about the buses than our drivers, mechanics, and the director :P
9sb19 1 year ago
I feel bad for you...it must me sad to know that your loved item isn't as safe as it used to be
1001kp 1 year ago
Thanks, I honestly hated it and I collected a few pieces of glass on the floor, and I still got it. But I hated it. Now my loved bus is trapped in the lot, and they don't, or won't, use it on trips.
9sb19 1 year ago
@9sb19 your loved bus you talking about your good ol IC CE if so why is it trapped in the lot
schindlerman96 11 months ago
Yeah, it's my IC. It's trapped in the lot because my new driver can't take it home. I like it in the lot so it's protected, but out of the lot it had no chance to be touched by another driver.
9sb19 11 months ago
wow they even give the driver ac vents now.
grasscutter88 1 year ago
If the bus is equipped with A/C, lol. Ours are not. So these are just heat and cool air vents. They don't blow too well, though.
9sb19 1 year ago
@9sb19 Yeah the really good A/C buses I find are the ones like the one I have now, the 2010. It's got the central unit that runs down the center of the bus instead of the one or two big units to add on to it. The central units run great. Also I have a little module for mine that adds in like an auto-climate control. Pretty neat if I do say so myself.
GNATech 1 year ago
It does sound pretty neat. I, myself, like the rooftop units I think you're talking about.
But I still prefer them with no A/C.
9sb19 1 year ago
@9sb19 Yeah that's what I mean to say. Anyway, I kinda need the A/C because I've got a few lung problems that started developing back before we got the C2s (the school board got all 7 that they have at once). But nevertheless the lung issues was from all the dirt flying up in my face and inhalation of that dirt because these roads back here are terrible - especially when dry. So that's the only reason they made sure I had one with A/C. Plus it's great because it gets hot here in Louisiana.
GNATech 1 year ago
Oh ok, well that's cool. Well then yes you need them. It gets very hot and dusty here, but we have to tough it out. I'm not dissing you, but it's how my board is.
9sb19 11 months ago
all of my districts C2's brakes squeal really bad
schindlerman96 1 year ago
Ours are not too bad. None of ours are, really. But you would've been upset over this bus today.
9sb19 1 year ago
@9sb19 why is that jerred why would i have been upset
schindlerman96 1 year ago
That was sarcasum. This bus, 68, we're using because 5 is in the shop. 5 is my afterschool bus. It has a bad oil leak on it and the shop can't locate it, so it's being sent to Jackson at the Internationals dealer to be serviced.
For some reason, bad wiring, the windshield wipers will randomly come on, go across two or three times, and cut off. Several times in route. But it's been worse lately.
9sb19 1 year ago
@schindlerman96 Are you in a rural district? When I drove for Shreveport I never had the squealing problem but now that I drive on a rural route I have that problem. I'm always running a quick-light pressure wash on my brakes to stop that temporarily.
GNATech 1 year ago
I'm in a very rural district, but we haul several thousand kids. I'd say maybe close to 4 thousand. Lol, usually it's just the brakes them self, lol. Mine are from a hard driver.
9sb19 11 months ago
my bus company we have has a lot of 08 and 09 c2s but now they are renting out buses from a bus rental company which we have about 6 and they are all 2011s. The 2011s interior and some new features but as i comented before every ones brakes go very quick
rangerfan143278 1 year ago
Yeah, because they're made cheaper and cheaper and faster just to get them to sell. We only have 2008 and 2009 model C2s, but the actual date on the bodies are 2007 and 2008.
9sb19 1 year ago
@9sb19 the whole point of the C2 was to be a cheap bus. That's another reason I don't like them. 85k is alot cheaper for a bus compaired to 150-200k. Still a dog house on wheels no matter what they do to it.
And I don't think I've seen a stop with kids crossing the street since I was in 2nd grade. my stop was the only one that had kids cross the street. Nowadays it's not allowed here. All our routes are made so the bus picks up on the same side the kids are.
allergictoyurmomm 1 year ago
I do agree with you, but the price my district is forking over for these Thomases, EFs and C2s, is unreal.. compared to the IC FEs and CEs we have. The last three buses we got, two EFs and one C2, were speced out completely. They were over 100 grand a pop. Now, compare that to what an IC or Blue Bird would cost, specs included.
I've heard of that being done. If you don't mind me asking, where are you from? We have some routes, like my afternoon one, that's nothing but crossing the highway.
9sb19 1 year ago
@9sb19 I drive in Maryland. my routes are in Howard County. And I also do alot of field trips/charters/etc into D.C. and Baltimore City.
allergictoyurmomm 1 year ago
Cool. How does that go for you?
9sb19 1 year ago
@allergictoyurmomm The routes around here in Lousiana rural areas are just drop them off how you can. I personally just don't mind how I stop.
GNATech 1 year ago
I'm the same way. As long as they get to the house ok and it's all safe, no harm is done. That's how we do it here.
9sb19 1 year ago
@rangerfan143278 That is why I prefer air brakes
aeastman16 6 months ago
Same here
9sb19 5 months ago
well u know i riden only 2 c2s in my whole school life nd i love them i love school buses nd i have always loved school buses
fanboychumchum1000 1 year ago
I've on a C2 from time to time. I don't mind them. I do have a respct for them and I prefer them to the Vision. It's just, to me they're not as great as the CE may be. But they're better in some other places, too.
9sb19 1 year ago
oh here in pa u must put the parking brake on when u stop to get someone at the school bus stop
fanboychumchum1000 1 year ago
True, you are here too. But as I said, it's time consuming and we're on a highway, and not in town. So we're expected to move quicker.
9sb19 1 year ago
I would also have to add, it's in the driver's discretion too.
9sb19 1 year ago
the bus driver was supposed to put the spring brake on when she/he stop
fanboychumchum1000 1 year ago
Tennessee State Law does state that bus drivers are supposed to put the bus in Neutral and then apply the parking brake. But, in the driver's spot, we're on a highway with countless truckers doing 60+ and we have to get moving very quick. Plus it's very time consuming. But they are supposed to.
9sb19 1 year ago
Well honestly the reason the C2's are having so many problems right now is because they are new. Once they are used a lot more, more problems will be fixed and what not. It won't take that long for the C2 to be literally the best on the road in all aspects what so ever.
GNATech 1 year ago
Yeah, you're right. They are a newer brand of bus. But with some of ours having over 40 thousand miles on them and being a 2008, some bugs should be worked out. But it's just the same with the new IC CEs, they all have bugs, but you're right.
9sb19 1 year ago
@9sb19 Well I have a 2010 and there aren't near the bugs that I see other drivers having in the older models. I mean the air condition is better in this than in the one that the school board originally supplised for me and there are all sorts of passenger luxuries that I've run the extra mile for. And that's just in the difference from '08 to '10. I mean they're just early models of an all new type of bus that has never been perfected.
GNATech 1 year ago
Yeah, I completely agree with you. My shop will spec our buses very highly, but they lack care for them. We've been like you, specing the buses higher and higher, but the company is still having bugs in their buses. That's what I'm saying. Bugs on the bus should try to be limited to little or absolutely none at all, if it can be. But my shop doesn't care. Right now we've got a C2 with duckt tape holding the back glass in.
9sb19 1 year ago
@9sb19 Sorry I didn't reply sooner, haven't been able to get on for a while for some reason then I forgot to check my comments. LOL Anyway, I could never do that - partially because the school board would fire me in a heart beat and I truly love my job. Anyway, I wouldn't want to though - I had a fight in the back of my bus in December that busted one of my windows - hated that I had to drive about 10 more miles with kids on - thank God I was dropping off the morning route. And I think part of
GNATech 1 year ago
@9sb19 my luck is the fact that I care about my bus - I keep it maintained in every way possible. I couldn't sleep at night if even one light was out on the bus. Also another problem with older models is that there is a box before the main circuit and if it gets hit a certain way it'll shut the whole bus down.
GNATech 1 year ago
I'm like you! It kills me to know my bus is not taken care of. When I'm older, I'll treat it better than myself, lol. It's irks me.
I plan to take care of the buses, too, better. I want to be a mechanic and director for a fleet and I plan to show them care and passion for busing, lol. Here, they'll make a driver do the route with a blown computer making no lights or gauges work at all. Glass busted and out. Drive after a wreck; it's ridiculous. I hate it.
9sb19 1 year ago
@9sb19 But it just disturbs me that someone can drive a bus knowing that so many children's lives are in their hands and not say something when the school board wants them to oh say drive a wrecked bus like you mentioned.
GNATech 1 year ago
I'm sorry, I accidentally removed your other comment. Please forgive me and repost it, I'll respond. It was a mistake to hit remove. I apologize.
I know, that's why I am so pissed off at my district and several other ones. It's rediciouls.
9sb19 11 months ago
@9sb19 Duct Tape? That's going to be a big blind spot. Your shop needs to start taking better care of their buses
aeastman16 6 months ago
They don't care at all. Thankfully to the new TD Coordinator, he's changed a lot of these things.
9sb19 5 months ago
the kid recording is so polite and proper... must be from a southern state, because no one is that proper up here in Delaware
tighmir 1 year ago
@tighmir, I am going to give you a big thanks. The person recording was me, Jerred. I am from Tennessee, about 50 miles on I-40 from Memphis. I was just raised, and I guess it was, the right way. Tough and stern.
9sb19 1 year ago
@9sb19 thats good... im lovin it
tighmir 1 year ago
Thanks, I really appreciate that.
9sb19 1 year ago
do this bus have a radio? if so do the kids listne to it?
cbh0370 2 years ago
Yeah, it has a radio. Yeah, they listen to it. It's a very nice, added feature.
9sb19 2 years ago
what are the probloms with the c2s
bioshock26632 2 years ago
We've had some where the doors would completely not respond to the controls; meaning the door control switch and the emergency release switch. Others where the stop signs, dual, wouldn't want to come out, but would flash. Some wouldn't start.
9sb19 2 years ago
do you mean some of the C2's wouldnt start on the former one i rode once the door wouldnt close
schindlerman96 2 years ago
Yeah, for some odd reason, they'd choose not to start.
That sucks. It's kind of what our C2s were doing. You'd have the bus in route and the door would quit working. Or wouldn't open up. My friend's mom got a C2 last year to drive on a trip and when she got it back to her house she turned the bus off with the door open and while she was getting her things, the door shut and locked and wouldn't open. She said she flipped the release and control switch, then it finally opened up.
9sb19 2 years ago
is it hard to drive a school bus and are the thomas c2s good buses and what is the top speed of the bus
bioshock26632 2 years ago
THe top speed of this bus, being an activity bus and a spare bus, the top speed would be some where between 75 and 85. But probably around 83 or so.
I'd drove a bus before, and honestly, they are very easy to drive. It's so easy and natural for me. Easiest way I can think of how to explain it to you like others have told me, is it's like an over sized mini van that turns and drives slower.
They can be some good buses, but we have had some problems with them. Overall, they are ok.
9sb19 2 years ago
Does your driver prefer to drive the CE or the C2?
ICDave 2 years ago
She prefers my IC CE by far compared to the C2. She was just saying she liked how sensitive the warning lights were, door control too, and how you can be doing 85 and throw the ambers on while the CEs have to be under 45.
9sb19 2 years ago