@Nrgzrbunny777 Yes, but Revell tells you in the instructions to use vegetable oil to lubricate the Visible V8. However vegetable oil will trash out the engine after a few months. I use Glycerin for lubrication and have had no problem at all. Yes this engine had a hand crank, but I used an electric motor to turn it.
@slinky460 i wanted to do a similar thing of using a different engine and a motor that used 15v and ran at 7900rpm and using plastic gears to turn the hand crack and know i know it possible, thanks also any tips ?
how bout if i used a motor that ran @ 13-14 000 rpm
@Tech4U247 Not sure, but these engines will run to 1500 RPM stock "usually" without a problem if is lubricated before running. Running a stock Visible V8 above 2000 RPM will usually have a short life span. This engine is modified to run these high speeds. Even modified like this one, 7000 RPM is pushing the engine very hard.
@bobbybob3680 I might be actually covered by homeowners insurance, I never did look to see, but these Visible V8 model engines have known to explode at high speeds. This is the reason for the containment shield as well as safety glasses above 3500 RPM.
@marek0086 The rods and pistons have proven to be the strongest parts of the rotating assembly. In this video, the crankshaft failed @ 7000 RPM. The containment shield is used above 3500 RPM just in case a rod would let go. These engines have been known to explode at high speeds. I have had some crankshaft failures during testing, but (so far) no exploding engines.
@marek0086 It is a 1/5 HP 120 Volt Dayton AC DC Electric motor. All the later videos use a Dayton 1/2 HP 120 Volt AC DC electric motor. See my other Visible V8 videos for details.
@TheXcaliber223 This will work short term, but could melt or degrade the Styrene plastic over time. Labelle 108 plastic safe oil is a better choice for long term. I have had good luck using Glycerine USP, no Styrene degradation has been observed during a year of exposure. Do not use Vegetable oil as the instructions tell you to do. I have found that vegetable oil will melt black and gray parts in about two months time.
Dang JimBob, ain't never seen me no crank melt like that! I have one of these on the shelf that I've been wanting to spin really fast. Always wondered what it could do...thanks!
I was at first thinking Oh here we go some sad tossers with toys but that made me laugh and its quite a cool clip, Guys are way more fun than Chicks as we make great fun out of anything.
@superfunnyman123 Yeah, I did not notice the smoke until I watched the video. The Styrene plastic has proven to be strong. But, local heating is the main problem above 3500 RPM as the Styrene will bend or melt above about 130deg. The cooling the oil provides to critical areas is as important as the lubrication is. I am still doing some testing with this little V8. It can take a licking and keep on ticking.
@pacometaco22 For this test, 1/4 HP. This has since been upgraded to 1/2 HP. To go any faster will require a one HP drive motor. This motor would be larger than the engine. Sad to say, the engine produces zero HP, but it does take power to turn it.
@andreboy10 I have looked into doing this, but just have not got around to it. There is a water pump impeller, but there are other problems too. I do think it could be done as the block and heads have areas for water, but would require much sealing. May be some day.
ahhhh. Great day of running. The enging was brokein to 3000rpm with the new cam and improved oiling system working great! I will test it soon just working on draining the oil catcher under my engine stand.Its on a woood/plexi glass base with a hole in the middle under engine. The new air compressor oil works great! so does the engine. I will run it to 4000 tonight then work up to 5000 if nothing breaks. I will get back soon with results
thanks for the reply man, just got my kit today lookin to make it run at only about 5000, not ready to get to crazy with it lol would you be able to shoot me a list of modifications for a smooth run at that speed? also every other video talks about oil in the motor, is it just out into the pan?
@doufcha Really, what you are seeing here in these videos, took a year of testing to get this far. I would hold a stock engine to about 1200-1500. Yes, you can just use the splash oiling system to about 1500 or so, but that is about it. And really it is just as much fun to run at 1200 as 4500, plus you may not have a meltdown or explosion at lower speeds. I got a BIG pile of broken parts to get this far, and still breaking some parts a year later. The faster you go, the more problems you have.
@doufcha First of all take the best care in putting your visible v8 together. DONT RUSH IT!!! and let everything dry and sand mold lines off of parts.
hey man, few questions for ya, does it actually tke in air, does it blow it out the exaust?, is there passages in the block for oil or is that your creation?
@doufcha Yes, actually there is (some) manifold vacuum and (some) exhaust flow. There are no rings for compression, plus there is some taper in the cylinders. It is kind of loose, but really does not pump any oil to speak of. The V8 sound comes from the exhaust manifolds. The pressure lubrication system is my own creation. There are no oil passages in the stock block. It is all experimental right now. It was designed to go only 100 RPM. I am really pushing it to the edge here.
@pontiacpower79 This project is work in progress. it is changing all the time. For example, right now I have the engine torn apart to make some internal changes. I plan on making a video, some day, but for now, it is just too complicated and experimental to video and explain all this.
It is always changing based on the last test. I have tried many different oils, some work better than others. I am using a x rated Silicone oil now. Some auto motor oils will melt plastic, so don't use these.
ive had this model for 2 years never built it then a week ago when i saw this video i built it and i have already ran it to 4500 but i snapped the lifter of one of the pushrods so i will buy a new model for parts. Ok so could yo tell me some mods you did and future problems i may face with going faster. also I do have an oiling system
@pontiacpower79 Yeah, you will bust up a lot of parts during testing. Please see all my videos. It took a year of testing to run these speeds without breaking something. It is trial and error testing. 10% trial 90% error. To start, I would redline at 1200, then slowly work up from there. There is no book on how to do this, so I would go slow, unless you can afford a lot of kits. The valve train is a weak area that requires a complete rework. Above 1500 you will need a pressure oiling system.
@pontiacpower79 One important thing is that the Styrene plastic crankshaft requires not only lubrication, but cooling. Actually cooling is more important as local hot spots at bearing points can quickly heat up past about 120 Deg F and have a meltdown. The new #5 crankshaft has oil passages arranged different to provide more flow. The crank pins use a .017" metering hole to create a oil spray between the rods for more cooling. Higher speeds, require a smaller hole. It is difficult to explain.
@2point0L Check my new videos. I have made two new crankshafts since this one. I am thrashing the Visible V8 with crankshaft #5 now, but red line is 6000 RPM as the crankshafts are $50 each. You have to buy a whole new kit every time.
@hod05 I agree, It is strange that although there is no combustion, it still sounds like a real V8 engine. Also, it is hard to capture on the video audio, but this little plastic engine is loud and intense above 3500 RPM. I now use a "blast shield" above 3500 RPM. I have never had a problem (yet). But other people have reported explosions at high speeds, some throwing parts across the room. I am working on a new crankshaft for this engine. You have to buy a $50 kit just to get a crankshaft.
@AlchemistHawk Yeah, at these speeds, anything can happen. I have never had a blow up (yet), but other people have, so I use the containment / blast shield above 3500 RPM just in case.
So far, a generator pully flew across the room once and one fan blade took off and hit a wall. But nothing serious yet.
@MOFOxMovies It took about a year of testing to get these engines to hit the speeds shown in the videos with out having a failure. Lubrication is the key for two reasons, to reduce friction and keep the rotating Styrene plastic parts cooled down. The plastic parts have proven to be strong enough, but heat will reduce the strength down to about half above 120 degrees F. Above about 130 degrees, the temperature will quickly rise and a failure will happen due to melt down. It is just plastic.
It sounds like a real v8!
psychotikpaisano 2 days ago
@slinky460 where did you get the electric motor from?
brjha 1 week ago
@brjha Amazon.com it is a Dayton 1/2 HP 120 volt AC electric motor. See my other videos for details.
slinky460 1 week ago
@slinky460 thanks
brjha 1 week ago
so does this kit call for oil? i thought it just had a crank for you to turn
Nrgzrbunny777 3 weeks ago
@Nrgzrbunny777 Yes, but Revell tells you in the instructions to use vegetable oil to lubricate the Visible V8. However vegetable oil will trash out the engine after a few months. I use Glycerin for lubrication and have had no problem at all. Yes this engine had a hand crank, but I used an electric motor to turn it.
slinky460 3 weeks ago
@slinky460 i wanted to do a similar thing of using a different engine and a motor that used 15v and ran at 7900rpm and using plastic gears to turn the hand crack and know i know it possible, thanks also any tips ?
how bout if i used a motor that ran @ 13-14 000 rpm
Tech4U247 1 week ago
@Tech4U247 Not sure, but these engines will run to 1500 RPM stock "usually" without a problem if is lubricated before running. Running a stock Visible V8 above 2000 RPM will usually have a short life span. This engine is modified to run these high speeds. Even modified like this one, 7000 RPM is pushing the engine very hard.
slinky460 1 week ago
@slinky460 modified how?
Tech4U247 1 week ago
@Tech4U247 See my detailed videos describing the modifications and assembly of this engine..
slinky460 1 week ago
", also because my home owners insurance does not cover exploding Visible V8 engines."
uh am i missing something? you're playing with a plastic engine, powered by a electric motor.....
bobbybob3680 2 months ago
@bobbybob3680 I might be actually covered by homeowners insurance, I never did look to see, but these Visible V8 model engines have known to explode at high speeds. This is the reason for the containment shield as well as safety glasses above 3500 RPM.
slinky460 2 months ago
Thats insane!!!! WAY COOL!
ems7218 2 months ago
alternator mount nut was not tight enough and backed its self out
rjc862003 3 months ago
Awesome, and it actually sounds pretty good!
afvc1980 3 months ago
wow that was cool the porr alittle motor started to smoke after u broke it lol
JOsEGoMeZ211 3 months ago
Is this the Monogram/Revell model engine ?
P71CVPI07AZ 4 months ago
@P71CVPI07AZ It is for the most part, the 2010 Revell with some parts from a 1960 Renwal.
slinky460 4 months ago
@slinky460~ i was hoping a rod would let go!
marek0086 3 months ago
@marek0086 The rods and pistons have proven to be the strongest parts of the rotating assembly. In this video, the crankshaft failed @ 7000 RPM. The containment shield is used above 3500 RPM just in case a rod would let go. These engines have been known to explode at high speeds. I have had some crankshaft failures during testing, but (so far) no exploding engines.
slinky460 3 months ago
@slinky460~ what are u using to spin it?
marek0086 3 months ago
@marek0086 It is a 1/5 HP 120 Volt Dayton AC DC Electric motor. All the later videos use a Dayton 1/2 HP 120 Volt AC DC electric motor. See my other Visible V8 videos for details.
slinky460 3 months ago
@slinky460 what did you use to lube your camshaft
TheXcaliber223 3 months ago
@TheXcaliber223 I think in this test Silicone oil was used.
slinky460 3 months ago
@slinky460 ok becouse ime just now puting mine together using petrolium jelly
TheXcaliber223 3 months ago
@TheXcaliber223 This will work short term, but could melt or degrade the Styrene plastic over time. Labelle 108 plastic safe oil is a better choice for long term. I have had good luck using Glycerine USP, no Styrene degradation has been observed during a year of exposure. Do not use Vegetable oil as the instructions tell you to do. I have found that vegetable oil will melt black and gray parts in about two months time.
slinky460 3 months ago
@TheXcaliber223 haha! wait... are we still talking about the motor?
cingular656 1 month ago
still sounds better than all the civics around here
Mr305wrangler 4 months ago 29
holy crap i was expecting it to fragment waaay before anything over a couple 100 rpms
citydriver 4 months ago
new fan belt and your good to go
87elky383 4 months ago 12
Dang JimBob, ain't never seen me no crank melt like that! I have one of these on the shelf that I've been wanting to spin really fast. Always wondered what it could do...thanks!
headcase01 4 months ago
can this thing generate electricity and if so how?
TheXelian 4 months ago
@TheXelian No, it is just a scale model engine made of Styrene plastic, it produces no power.
slinky460 4 months ago
It actually sounds like a real v8
ilovecats748 5 months ago
what is this engine for ?
Krloton 5 months ago
@Krloton It is just a quarter scale model that has been modified for high speed operation.
slinky460 5 months ago
that actually sounded cool
67ford1 5 months ago
damn hard to imagine metal can move that fast
Brendon00000 5 months ago
I was at first thinking Oh here we go some sad tossers with toys but that made me laugh and its quite a cool clip, Guys are way more fun than Chicks as we make great fun out of anything.
Farkimi 6 months ago
Of course, a REAL stock V8 would probably encounter the exact same issues at 7000 rpm.
reddy351 6 months ago
what really close at 1:40 right near the intake manifolds there is smoke comming out of the engine
superfunnyman123 6 months ago
@superfunnyman123 Yeah, I did not notice the smoke until I watched the video. The Styrene plastic has proven to be strong. But, local heating is the main problem above 3500 RPM as the Styrene will bend or melt above about 130deg. The cooling the oil provides to critical areas is as important as the lubrication is. I am still doing some testing with this little V8. It can take a licking and keep on ticking.
slinky460 6 months ago
7151 RPMs; wow.
GPBraaten 6 months ago
I've never even heard of doing something like this - It's awesome! That little SBC sounded just like a real one!
75Bird455 6 months ago
how much horses
pacometaco22 9 months ago
@pacometaco22 For this test, 1/4 HP. This has since been upgraded to 1/2 HP. To go any faster will require a one HP drive motor. This motor would be larger than the engine. Sad to say, the engine produces zero HP, but it does take power to turn it.
slinky460 9 months ago
@slinky460 How did the pistons not melt? I want to buy one of these but, I'm not sure where to start on modifying it because its all plastic?
DarkAlex174 4 months ago
@DarkAlex174 This engine has many modifications. I would build only a stock engine first before planning any modifications.
slinky460 4 months ago
Crazy -- it sounds just like a real V8. I saw 7100+ rpm right before it seized...
Mysterio2276 9 months ago
It actually sounds like a real V8 engine right around 400 rpm lol :)
hayden12w3 1 year ago
thanks and do you know of when a new video might be out
andreboy10 1 year ago
@andreboy10 There are seven more Visible V8 videos on You Tube following this one.
slinky460 1 year ago
have you tried using the water pump
andreboy10 1 year ago
@andreboy10 I have looked into doing this, but just have not got around to it. There is a water pump impeller, but there are other problems too. I do think it could be done as the block and heads have areas for water, but would require much sealing. May be some day.
slinky460 1 year ago
Is this all from the factory? And is is electric or battery powered or something? Lastly, how much does it cost? I really want one!
simersonic1 1 year ago
ahhhh. Great day of running. The enging was brokein to 3000rpm with the new cam and improved oiling system working great! I will test it soon just working on draining the oil catcher under my engine stand.Its on a woood/plexi glass base with a hole in the middle under engine. The new air compressor oil works great! so does the engine. I will run it to 4000 tonight then work up to 5000 if nothing breaks. I will get back soon with results
pontiacpower79 1 year ago
thanks for the reply man, just got my kit today lookin to make it run at only about 5000, not ready to get to crazy with it lol would you be able to shoot me a list of modifications for a smooth run at that speed? also every other video talks about oil in the motor, is it just out into the pan?
doufcha 1 year ago
@doufcha Really, what you are seeing here in these videos, took a year of testing to get this far. I would hold a stock engine to about 1200-1500. Yes, you can just use the splash oiling system to about 1500 or so, but that is about it. And really it is just as much fun to run at 1200 as 4500, plus you may not have a meltdown or explosion at lower speeds. I got a BIG pile of broken parts to get this far, and still breaking some parts a year later. The faster you go, the more problems you have.
slinky460 1 year ago
@doufcha First of all take the best care in putting your visible v8 together. DONT RUSH IT!!! and let everything dry and sand mold lines off of parts.
pontiacpower79 1 year ago
hey man, few questions for ya, does it actually tke in air, does it blow it out the exaust?, is there passages in the block for oil or is that your creation?
doufcha 1 year ago
@doufcha Yes, actually there is (some) manifold vacuum and (some) exhaust flow. There are no rings for compression, plus there is some taper in the cylinders. It is kind of loose, but really does not pump any oil to speak of. The V8 sound comes from the exhaust manifolds. The pressure lubrication system is my own creation. There are no oil passages in the stock block. It is all experimental right now. It was designed to go only 100 RPM. I am really pushing it to the edge here.
slinky460 1 year ago
Could you please send me pictures of your oiling system in the block? Also wht kind of oil do you run?
pontiacpower79 1 year ago
@pontiacpower79 This project is work in progress. it is changing all the time. For example, right now I have the engine torn apart to make some internal changes. I plan on making a video, some day, but for now, it is just too complicated and experimental to video and explain all this.
It is always changing based on the last test. I have tried many different oils, some work better than others. I am using a x rated Silicone oil now. Some auto motor oils will melt plastic, so don't use these.
slinky460 1 year ago
ive had this model for 2 years never built it then a week ago when i saw this video i built it and i have already ran it to 4500 but i snapped the lifter of one of the pushrods so i will buy a new model for parts. Ok so could yo tell me some mods you did and future problems i may face with going faster. also I do have an oiling system
pontiacpower79 1 year ago
@pontiacpower79 Yeah, you will bust up a lot of parts during testing. Please see all my videos. It took a year of testing to run these speeds without breaking something. It is trial and error testing. 10% trial 90% error. To start, I would redline at 1200, then slowly work up from there. There is no book on how to do this, so I would go slow, unless you can afford a lot of kits. The valve train is a weak area that requires a complete rework. Above 1500 you will need a pressure oiling system.
slinky460 1 year ago
@slinky460 What modifactions have been made to your newest crankshaft?
pontiacpower79 1 year ago
@pontiacpower79 One important thing is that the Styrene plastic crankshaft requires not only lubrication, but cooling. Actually cooling is more important as local hot spots at bearing points can quickly heat up past about 120 Deg F and have a meltdown. The new #5 crankshaft has oil passages arranged different to provide more flow. The crank pins use a .017" metering hole to create a oil spray between the rods for more cooling. Higher speeds, require a smaller hole. It is difficult to explain.
slinky460 1 year ago
you blew a shift!
2point0L 1 year ago
@2point0L Yeah, I should have shifted at 6000 RPM.
slinky460 1 year ago
@2point0L Actually I wanted to see what happens if you go past the 6000 RPM Red line.
This is what happens.
slinky460 1 year ago
@slinky460 no kidding, how far along are you for fixing it?
2point0L 1 year ago
@2point0L Check my new videos. I have made two new crankshafts since this one. I am thrashing the Visible V8 with crankshaft #5 now, but red line is 6000 RPM as the crankshafts are $50 each. You have to buy a whole new kit every time.
NAPPA don't have any in stock. Oh well.
slinky460 1 year ago
@slinky460 napa has no 1:8 craskshafts...I almost would expect them to :)
2point0L 1 year ago
how much horsepower
pacometaco22 1 year ago
@pacometaco22 Sad to say, zero. However it requires power to turn the little engine, in this case 1/2 horsepower at full load.
slinky460 1 year ago
The "V8 sound" comes from the uneven exhaust pressures on either side of the engine, which is a direct result of having an odd firing order.
slinky460 1 year ago
it almost sounds real lol i guess the sound of an internal combustion engine is due to the reciprocating mass rather than the combustion itself
hod05 1 year ago
@hod05 I agree, It is strange that although there is no combustion, it still sounds like a real V8 engine. Also, it is hard to capture on the video audio, but this little plastic engine is loud and intense above 3500 RPM. I now use a "blast shield" above 3500 RPM. I have never had a problem (yet). But other people have reported explosions at high speeds, some throwing parts across the room. I am working on a new crankshaft for this engine. You have to buy a $50 kit just to get a crankshaft.
slinky460 1 year ago
What dies this thing run on
14omega28ok 1 year ago
@14omega28ok It is driven by an electric motor.
slinky460 1 year ago
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AlchemistHawk 1 year ago
@AlchemistHawk Yeah, at these speeds, anything can happen. I have never had a blow up (yet), but other people have, so I use the containment / blast shield above 3500 RPM just in case.
So far, a generator pully flew across the room once and one fan blade took off and hit a wall. But nothing serious yet.
slinky460 1 year ago
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MOFOxMovies 1 year ago
@MOFOxMovies It took about a year of testing to get these engines to hit the speeds shown in the videos with out having a failure. Lubrication is the key for two reasons, to reduce friction and keep the rotating Styrene plastic parts cooled down. The plastic parts have proven to be strong enough, but heat will reduce the strength down to about half above 120 degrees F. Above about 130 degrees, the temperature will quickly rise and a failure will happen due to melt down. It is just plastic.
slinky460 1 year ago