The Worst Jobs in History - The Maritime Age - Part 3

[elevanesc]

As an American, Tony has taught me two new vocabulary words on this show:

1) knackered

2) manky

[MyDoom01]

Whats this music at 3:00 ?

[Weasil666]

Is there no place on the internet that's safe from mindless jingoists?

Both of you. Shut up and watch the show. End of discussion.

[slovakmath]

I cant believe the series would put a Scavenger Boy from the end of the Georgian Age in the same category of "worst jobs" with a fusey chain maker. The likelihood that a 7 yr old boy would have his head & brains smashed in the gears of a cotton mill is (I think) "worse" than the tediousness of building a clock in the nice comfort of a chair in a heated workshop. It shouldnt take a mathematician to conclude one is like a hell on earth (& FAR more relevant to history) & one is simply frustrating!

[berceuse23]

my gosh, Tony deserves an extraordinary honour! after talking about it raining all day, from 2:40 he's definitely caught a cold. I hope he's well taken care of when they're done filming!

[comfycozie]

"Oh, I can see it! It's got holes in it!"

[1234ilovemarinecore]

8:49

"Oh Triumph!. Oh Great Triumph!"

<3

[nokomarie1963]

You would not get me up there when I was young and fit.  Forget it now, just forget it. Poor Tony, he looked do do himself some harm.

[BrionyCoote]

@nokomarie1963 Sometimes it looks Tony goes too far in trying out these lousy jobs. Are they really worth exposing himself to potential injury, death or disease?

[ellie9311]

tony is 62 years old also he is abit scared of heights also he has never done this before, i was in tony shoes i wouldn't be able to manage either

[electropopprincess]

thats because hes not a member of the american army. hes a writer and broadcaster. (and not as young as he used to be)

and not a big fan of heights :)

[yerk3]

You go and find a completely non-athletic 60 year old who can hoist themselves over a slippery rope, 60 feet in the air.

[slovakmath]

@Polybun polybun youre full of shit. even if you were fit, there is no way a human could grip the rope with enough force as to prevent yourself from simply hanging upside down. if it is true americans do complete something similar then they either complete it while upside down, however if they are able to do this while right side up then there has to be more than one rope. an finally: american military is like america academics, they spend a lot of money and still come up short, sorry yank

[Polybun]

@slovakmath right, and balancing a bicycle is a matter of strenghth as well right?

That's why the american milltary kicks the shit out of everyone you know. It works smarter, not harder.

[slovakmath]

@Polybun no the american military's power only comes from its inflated 3/4 trillion dollar annual budget...regarding the bicycle analogy... you obviously have the understanding of physics and mechanics similar to that of a 12 year old. learn some calculus sand Newtonian mechanics and then respond with your apology

[Polybun]

@slovakmath none comming, i've done over rope slides.

[Jcolinsol]

@Polybun

Haha, "kicks the shit out of everyone you know" what have you been smoking? America's military is a joke, they have had their asses handed to them in every war since the ww2. Usually by disorganized guerilla's. What fantasy world are you inhabiting?

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol What fantasy world are you inhabiting? America's military has not been beaten by any sort of force. If you understood the situations at hand, it's often our politicians who lose the situation in spite of US military success.  But, you're an idiot.

[Jcolinsol]

@MikeTMerciless

I'm not an idiot just because I have a different opinion than you. That's asinine.

Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, pretty much every contemporary war, we get our asses handed to us by the locals while our own troops act like barbarians. They call it "asymmetrical warfare" but the point is: the guerrillas always win. The rebels will always beat the evil empire.

As for politicians, they don't care about winning, it's all about prolonging the war for profit. The troops are dupes.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol You speak out of ignorance. Your opinion is not only wrong, it's wrong-headed based on the context of reality. Guerrillas do not always win. They take tremendous losses against our forces. While they may inflict a few casualties here and there against us, they often take double or more losses, which, if you note, are never reported by a media who thinks they are the victims of your mythical barbarism of our troops. While our politicians might be wimps, our military sure isn't.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol There are a lot of myths about asymmetrical warfare that is never explained or even explored by a media that wouldn't understand how war is conducted in the first place, which is part and parcel why you erroneously believe that it always wins. It's actually quite difficult to wage such a war successfully without complicity somewhere on their enemy's part.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol Also, you completely ignore the barbarism of these so-called local troops (a lot of which weren't, even in Vietnam). When we left South Vietnam we actually won the war. But a Democratic Congress decided to just let the North Vietnamese invade. When that happened, more than a million people were butchered by these so-called locals. The point is that there is a lot you really don't understand.

[Jcolinsol]

@MikeTMerciless

I'm not drinking your kool-aid.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol You already drank someone's kool-aid to believe the nonsense you've just owned up to. I offer an antidote. Just understand that we do not suck. We're far better than the alternatives, which I'm sure the idiot teacher or critic who told you otherwise has yet to field. Because they don't feel they have to. We're far better than the idiots who taught you lies about our military believe, and all it takes is for you to take a look for yourself. Or not, and stay ignorant.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol And to add one little morsel of truth to all this, try to look up Nazi guerrillas following the surrender of Germany in World War II. It will be hard, but they did exist, and they were every bit as murderous as al Qaeda. Then, if you do find this, ask yourself two questions: 1) Why didn't they win, as you seem to believe; and 2) why wasn't this activity as well documented by the media. Drink up.

[Jcolinsol]

@MikeTMerciless

Listen, I'm sure those are all valid facts, (actually I don't have proof of that, it could be a load of old bollocks for all I know). But it's not the whole story, I've got the part of the story that you are lacking. And, regardless, I'm not seeing what you are saying, happening today.

Winning a guerrilla war means that the locals have the consent to submit, and they are sick of seeing our boys murder their people senselessly. They will fight until we give up.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol No. Winning a guerrilla war means that the enemy must eventually give up. That means that the enemy must be willing on some level to concede the field. Guerillas, believe it or not, have rarely been successful against a foe that's not only determined, but strong and got their act together because they know what they want. The problem with America is that we have subversive elements in our culture that would not want us to know anything about what we want wherever we go....cont.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol cont....See, what we have going on in America is an element that desires desperately to see America fail for various and altogether mythical reasons. Because, in truth, if we were less cordial to the enemy as we have already been, al Qaeda and the Taliban would've been destroyed, its leaders and their families ruthlessly murdered, and the government leaders that support such elements would also be dead. But because of subversive elements who tie our hands behind our backs...cont.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol cont...because we have elements who do not want us to do what is effective, to make the war as short as possible, to do what it takes to see our enemies for who and what they are accurately and defeat them, we won't win. Because that is precisely what the guerrillas count on. In other words, the target for their agenda is YOU, or those who hold opinions like yours. They count on this fundamental lapse of character. Because otherwise, they could never win.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol Now, I know that last message sounded harsh, but that is the nature of assymmetrical warfare. The target of the guerrillas is not an enemy army. That would be suicidal. The '68 Tet Offensive was a tactical failure at every level. But not even the NVA could count on the likes of Walter Cronkite and the Democrats in Washington to undermine the American war effort in Vietnam. Because that was instrumental in their success, not anything they ever did militarily.

[Jcolinsol]

@MikeTMerciless

That is a terribly paranoid perspective.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol Not paranoid when the enemy themselves admit to doing so. Also, it's not paranoid when you understand just how asymmetrical warfare works when it does. The target isn't necessarily the soldiers or the bureaucracies, but those that support them financially and politically. Subversion is often a great alternative when you cannot viably defeat the enemy on the battlefield, because it erodes the enemy from within, makes him doubt himself, and distracts him from ultimate victory.

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."

continued...

[MikeTMerciless]

@Jcolinsol "For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague." - Marcus Cicero

[Jcolinsol]

@MikeTMerciless

Case in point.