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  • Just make this conclusion: Liberals are baby-killers!!!! Cocksuckers!!!

  • HERE'S TWO FUCKHEADS SITTIN' IN A TREE - COPS SHOT DOWN - CAUSE THEY WERE BOTH TOO STINKY!

  • Sounds like Ann has learned a few small facts from Ron Paul.

  • For once, I agree with O'reilly

  • Coulter has so much faith in insurance companies - yes, Ann, they only screw people over because of the government. Nothing to do with profiting from screwing people and the freedom to screw people, right?

  • Fuck FoKKKs not News and these two Douche bags !! 

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  • Ann Cunter is a racist bitch !!

  • @TheRealRealTalk AND A STINKY CUNT!

  • theyre both retards tbh..

  • Coulter schooled him on the positives of free competition..Bill sounded like one of the Pinheads he lampoons

  • A 3 year old could school Bill O'Reilly. That is if he would let the kid speak.

  • O'Reilly has been giving Obama a pass or the benefit of the doubt for too long. He and Obama are Harvard Elites and neither give's a rat's patootti about us the U.S. Constitution.

  • For all her abrasiveness, Coulter is right nore often than wrong, and by a hefty margin.

    Bill O'Really needs to get a grip, or a brain, or both.

  • I like the part where my soul is stolen by Ann Coulter.

  • O'Reilly is the thinnest kid at fat camp

  • bill is right. and i don't think he is afraid of ann coulter or he wouldn't have her on his show.

  • @james123q

    Ya you're absolutely right, people need to start listening actually to what bill says, not just ignore him because that is the "intelligent" thing to do.

  • OReilly is so afraid of Coulter

  • @Roachenator Well she is a soul sucking banshee spawned from Satan's anus, he has good reason.

  • Ann is wrong about a few things.

  • Well Ann was actually right about this because it does fund for abortion (i'm not sure what type but it funds for some type of abortion in general.)

  • coulter is an uneducated horse faced cunt

  • anyone who agrees with O'reilly on this dont understand real economics or human incentives. the great mistake that people often make is to judge policies by their intentions and not by their results. you have to look at problems more than surface deep.

  • If Ann's logic prevails then the police can be privatised and you can chose to answer to the cop that gives the lowest fine for speeding. The argument that "private companies run things better than government" is totally myopic and only true if you are a shareholder and measure things in profitability (which is important but not the only success factor), not the public interest, not the environment, not the employees.

  • Anne Coulter is a stupid bitch that belongs on a reality show for well-educated, Stepford wives who can hide in their insulated dreamworld, while criticizing everyone who didn't inherit their wealth.

  • I didn't think this would ever happen, but I agree with O'Reilly. He's actually making sense here...

  • O'Reilly, you are a total ass. There is much wrong with gov't oversight. And if you don't think so then you've never read a decent book on economics. Try one. Murray Rothbard or Milton Freidman or Henry Hazlitt. Educate yourself with something more then your sentiments.

  • DA GUVMENT IS WATCHING YOU!

    Actually, the government is trying to keep business (insurance, etc) from exploiting people. How about we abolish government, or just oversight for a few years and see where that gets us. People will be begging for government "control" afterwards.

  • @Wraithdagger We already did - it gave us 2008 on Wall Street - unfortunately it has not lead people to realise what the problem is :-) - which basically means we are screwed and 2008 was a taste of things to come..

  • I know a woman just like ann coulter. Shes a fking douche

  • F'n LOVE Ann

  • has government run anything better than the market..... hmmm.... the military..... all the other government healthcare's in the world that are better than ours..... building roads.... the post office...... police..... fire dept......... nasa..... just to name a few

  • Never thought I'd cheer lead for O'Reilly. She's such an idiot!

  • Shut the frick up bimbo's. Want to see the truth instead of lies? Google: Girl being Wrestled to Ground and Stomped by Rand Paul Tea Party Thugs. I am tired of the Republicant's lies. Do we really want these crazy freaks in power again? 

  • Evidence that even the GOP can't get on the same page!

  • O'reilly is a shithead...rightwinger asshole .....that why they walked off the view on his ass....

  • Both of them are dumbasses! Fuck right-wingers!

  • O'Reilly Is a pinhead sometime.

  • SHE JUST STATED THE FACTS, AND DICKHEAD WONT LISTEN AT ALL !!

  • obama is trader and should be arrested and charged with high treason...liberals are uneducated morons who spew crap out of there mouths when they don't even really know what they are talking about... Gives me a good laugh...because obama care will be the death of you if we do not get it over turned...

  • @supergoober50 he did commit treason

    he basically set himself up as the leader of the UN

    that's treason...

  • @supergoober50 ...you don't have to sigh up for it...STFU

  • Bill O'rielly Is a complete fucktard, and Ann Coulter is a sensationalist whore.

    Together they are fucktard and whore. The greatest shitstorm ever to befall mankind.

  • Ann is so gorgeous, and smart too.

    All you haters deserve Obamacare...

  • @Dougster i wouldnt say gorgeous, maybe smart on some matters and a complete fucking Pin Head on most. I will give her points on this topic though she is right the government needs to get out of health care all together. I'd fuck her Lol

  • Hey, DONE. You know you are mistaken??? Here is the real truth. BIG BUSINESS, runs this country. End of story. Bush was a friend of Big Business. Obama is a friend of the working man/woman. Bush gave huge tax cuts to the Ulra Rich. That is what causes a threat to the middle class. Taxes is what runs the country. When you take a way the money that runs the country, guess what, you go out of business.

  • ann coulter is a fucking racist conservative cunt.

  • @mpotokar7 I agree with you completely. A bitch with a loud voice.

  • "if I was getting turned down, there'd be mass chaos, newspaper articles!"

    "nobody would care."

    only time I have ever like, loved bill:D

    she fucking wouldn't shut up.

  • She has such a long neck! This is gonna sound weird, but I kinda wanna choke her.lol

  • What I have to say about O'Reilly is that he's right about Ann's tendency to jump ahead regarding some of the issues she strangles out. Psychologically, Ann behaves the way she does (her immediate lash outs and abruptness) is because she knows for a good fact a part of her argumentative points are weak, lacking consistent proof, and desperately trying to save her faltering neo-con party! Ann's achievements range from satyr comedic, debates to her pseudo ideals for a free market!

  • @jahellaspartan Ann is just another Republican dreamer. She has Blame it on the Black guy, syndrome.

  • @inilledra ????

  • Of course the healthcare bill will fund abortions. A GAO report release last month showed that over $ 1 billion Fedaral tax dollars went to organizations whose primary mission is to provide abortions. Of course, the money didn't go for an actual abortion, it was just used to build the new headquarters of Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion provider in the nation. That's like saying I don't support terrorism, I just fund the building of their training camps.

  • Wow...call me nuts, but O'Reilly actually seems to be trying to be fair... Ann Coulter is annoying as fuck!

  • @Goobelham They call people like Ann Coulter, C. U. N. T.

    Cannot Understand Normal Thinking.

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  • OReilly will do anything to maintain his position as a populist, including denying the facts, and never takes a controversial stand. (Doing shows about bad judges is easy, everyone agrees.) Rush Limbaugh said he is another "Ted Baxter" (Mary Tyler Moore Show), and that sums up OReilly. Ann Coulter has better insight and has more courage than anyone on Fox.

  • Its not hard to school O'Reilly. My 11 year old could do that.

  • I had a dream the other night that Ann Coulter was my porfessor.... I felt good.

  • I love Ann. God I wish there were more like her in America.

  • I love Ann Coulter. Straight thinker, and a blessing to all free Americans.

  • Get over crying about Obama inheriting whatever, he's spent more money than any president ever, it's absurd and insane. if obama was the messiah you make him out to be he would put spending in a choke hold instead of it going completely out of control. he's no different then bush, he's the third term of it, you won't admit it because you've put stock in him and don't want to look like an idiot for supporting him. support to the death, well live by the sword die by the sword.

  • @Kharmatos13

    You say no spending in a shitty economy do you realize that is the worse thing you can do. Plus in order to fix the mess that Chaney and Bush cause by making us the most indebted country in the world (114 countries the U.S. is indebted to). For crying out loud Mexico was in debt to us in the amount of 670 billion (2001), now we are in debt to Mexico 435 billion (2008).

  • @firenearth78

    How will Obama fix this mess? By continuing to do what Bush and Cheney did? Isn't it insanity to do the same things over and over but expect different results?

    Oh BTW I didn't like Bush either.

  • @subjer0

    For starters by lowing the taxes on the upper middle class which he did, and time. It took Clinton 6 years to turn the mess around that the first Bush caused, and this time the economy is 3 times worse.

    But I'm not saying I'm happy with everything Obama is doing, for one he is giving in to the GOP way to much.

  • @firenearth78

    That's it? That's all you can come up with? Lowering taxes on a group of people, while debasing the currency of printing trillions upon trillions of dollars to bail out wall street, fund even more of these endless wars, and spend even more billions to fund

    health care we may or may not want, and that will turn everything around!!!!!?

    Comon man, use your own brain and think about this.

    How can a bankrupt government save a bankrupt banking system, or anything for that matter?

  • @firenearth78

    yeah, sure comrade, government control on everything makes things so much better than capitalism, just ask the prosperous workers in the SOVET UNION!!

    ooppss??? wait , they dont exist anymore, my bad

  • @ObamaIsAMarxistTowel

    Your screen name say it all, did you pick it because you hate everything Liberal or is it because a black man as President make you small? Do you even have any idea the type of control that banks, and oil companies, and military contractors want over people. For crying out loud Citi Group has a 357 page book on there plans to control the world economy. Wait what happened when the banker crashed the economy, they got richer and everyone else got poorer,

  • @firenearth78

    no, i hate communists

  • @ObamaIsAMarxistTowel

    Please tell me what you know about communism, on second hand tell me were in the U.S. Constitution is god, lord, Jesus or Christ. Like most of you Bible thumping wingnuts, you have never read it, you just say the word "Constitution" because it makes for good sound bites.

    There is a different between communism and socialism, learn them and the fact that socialist do not like pure communism for that matter.

  • @firenearth78

    i know alot about the constitution, if you have a specific point to make, then make it.

    but commies like you are never specific

  • @ObamaIsAMarxistTowel

    Commie, man you are really brain dead, I have never said I'm a communist, nor do I like it. Communism leads to state worship, and as I put no faith in a god so also I put no faith in an economic system such as communism.

    As for the Canadian thing, very Canadian I know well not receive care in the U.S. because our healthcare sucks. If you think we have the best then why do Canadians live longer, have fewer low birth rates; and are mentally happier then us?

    Fuck your god!

  • @ObamaIsAMarxistTowel

    You never answered me question about the constitution, so you just proved my point. The point I have and make our by things in the Constitution, like the fact god is not state one time nor is lord, Jesus or Christ. Second, the Bill of Rights was to be the ground work in the statement of basic rights granted for the protection of the minority from majority rule.

    So again fuck your god!!!!

  • @firenearth78

    what question, exactly??

  • @ObamaIsAMarxistTowel

    People like you seem to love and point at the fact that the Soviet Union is not more, and it is now the Russian Federation. the one the that you fail to point out is, you make love GWB caused the U.S. to own Russian more then 900 billion, five years after Clinton loaned then 1.7 trillion to jump start their economy. The GOBP claims to be for smaller government, then why have they made it five time bigger; in the last 30 years; get real and use your head.

  • @firenearth78

    we won and they lost, use your head.

    if socialism was superior they would have won

  • @ObamaIsAMarxistTowel

    Wait what are you saying that communism is dead, then please explain China, and why The U.S. own them money 2.1 trillion. Plus dumbass socialism is a live in well in Canada, and most of Europe, and they are doing a hell-of-a-lot better then we are right now.

    Please do not tell someone to use their head, went they take time to research what they are talking about. which more then I can say for Fox News.

  • @firenearth78

    china is a totalitarian regime with FREE market economy.

    if canada is so great then why do canandians come to the USA for immediate health care

  • @ObamaIsAMarxistTowel I dont know of a lot of Canadians going over to the USA for medical treatment?/ Unless its for something specific,I have a kidney disease and i am on dialysis 3 times a week, and it is covered under our health plan ,If i was in the USA i would be in debt till i died because of my disease.Dont you think you pay enough taxes to at least have descent healthcare for all?

  • @webber1966

    WOW!! i have seen the light!!

    while we are at it, we can socialize and nationalize everything so we can live in a workers paradise like the Soviet Union because government bureacrats are infinitely more efficient than businessmen

  • @Kharmatos13 I love it how democrats generally believe that they are opposites of republicans when in fact they follow almost the same agenda. Their differences are not about whether spending or regulation should take place at all, but how to go about it.

  • Ann was absolutely right. The health care bill Obama signed forces taxpayers to pay for abortions and doesn't restrict illegals from federal health coverage.

  • @daughterrevolution

    YOU LIE!

  • Final bill is out... no abortion and no illegal immigrants, looks like she was wrong. Although, she might be right about the court making those parts of the bill unconstitutional.

    Does this mean Joe Wilson lied when he said "you lie" when Obama said illegal immigrants wouldn't be covered?

  • Military... they've run that better than the private sector.

  • Bill and Ann are right off the banana boat not in touch with what is going on with Americans.

    Republicans just like to run our county on hot air and run up the deficit.

  • @Americanview,

    Obama and company are running our country on hot air and running up the deficit.

  • @pchdt really, Bush just ran up the biggest deficit in the history of all presidents and you have the audasity to say that. Sorry I am only looking at what I see going on and coming out of the politicians mouthes not lies that republicans like to label after they screw up things.

  • @AmericanView

    The biggest deficit will be the HC entitlement which will take away individual's and health provider's right to self-governed HC. The lies of transparency and back door deals are Obama's audasity. Never have I've witnessed such open manipulations and faults implications and arrogant misdirections to accuse, even toward the supreme court. Sadly, he's just getting started. American views should not approved to this method of governing.

  • @AmericanView you have got to be kidding me you freakin jerk

  • @hwy419 LOL really??? Call me names you don't have an answer

  • I HAVE YOUR ANSWER. You are an idiot that supports a president that hates the country that protects YOUR rights.

    You are an idiot that believes you have a RIGHT to somthing others have to labor to provide!

    You are an idiot that would serve a master who offers you trinkets for your freedom!

    Want more- because i can go on all day!

    I know it won't make a difference because you are a slave and you always will be.

    The sad thing is you can't compete in a free market!

    spineless!

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  • lol, so Bush left him the second bailout- the jobs bailout and the healthcare bailout?

    Those three thngs are what has created OBAMAS deficit.

    It's time to stop blaming bush for what obama is still doing and as a side note- when cap and tax hits and energy and gas go through the roof i suppose bush will be to blame for that aswell?

    It's comical how utterly incapable you are of accepting responsibility for your own actions!

    When america falls all of you will blame bush-you are sad!

  • @commonsensrules LOL Still no commonsens You are a NUT CASE. Just lie and turn it around on people that is what republicans do. LIE LIE LIE LIE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • REALLY?

    Are you that sheepafied that you believe that horseshit you're shoveling?

    Republican like to run up a deficit? REALLY?

    OBAMA NOW OWNS THE BIGGEST DEFICIT IN THE HISTORY OF HISTORY YOU IDIOT!-

    I can't wait for the great purging of idiocy that will surely come and when it does your kind will go the way of the dinosaurs!

    until then i'll settle for the show you idiots will provide through the bankrupting of the greatest nation in the history of history!

    YOU ARE SICKENING!

  • @commonsensrules Maybe you should look in the mirror.

    Your so self centered. Take your blinders off and start looking and listening.

    The Bush administration was an embarrassment to this county.

    I am glad we have a president with some intelligence that actually can speak.

    Not some arrogant recovered alcoholic, recovered coke-head.

    I don't need your Bull Shoved in my face either. I have a right to my opinion that is why it is America. By the way you have no commonsens

  • whoa man, i think you need to calm down. the reason obama has this deficit is because bush left him with it. it sounds like you're blaming obama for this deficit, but it's not his fault; he can't clean up the American economy in a month, only god can do miracles.

  • @stkuehne obama was left w/ a 500b$ defecit.he quadrupled it.its his.

  • @stkuehne

    If obama inherited this deficit, why doesn't Obama do the opposite of what Bush did? If Bush made it such a mess, it would stand to reason that to fix this economy, he would do the complete opposite right? But no, he is doing the same as Bush. Recycling the same ideology, spending this country into a depression, and fighting these wars.

    I mean, if you see someone that keeps on bumping into a glass door, do you do the same and wonder why nothing's working? Are you insane?

  • @commonsensrules

    after reading your past comments, you need to stop because you're not making any sense! seriously... you're acting like an idiot!! GO BACK AND START DOING YOUR HOMEWORK!

  • @jahellaspartan

    It is a known fact that any true conservative might aswell speak arabic- libtards are incapable of undertanding straight forward common sense.

    what you mean by "do my homework" is really drink the koolaid like you have.

    Well, no thank you. I prefer reality and tend to shy away from revisionist history.

    The bush administration numbers are out there and any idiot with a brain can see that liberals have taken a bad situation and made it into a nationl threat.

    done

  • O'Reilly didn't have a mother. He thinks wrong.

  • This woman is a dangerous, psychopathic liar. A liar who probably doesn't even know when she is lying, it is quite scary.

  • Ann Rocks!

    Liberalism / Progressivism = Socialism, Marxism..

  • @Guardian1223

    *Facepalm*

  • @Guardian1223

    Ann rocks for the lobbyists of wall street!

    neo conservatism = a corporation controlled nation!

  • @jahellaspartan Ann is worthless. Just another bitch with a loud voice.

  • Boy I love it. The way MSNBC has exposed the GOP LIARS, and as long as the GOP has idiots like Ann Coulter, Liz Cheney, her dumb fuck father, Dana Perino, Hannity, who keeps getting in lies. Looks like the Republicans may lose more seats than they know. Thirty six are up for grabs, and I will gurantee you they will be lucky to win five of them. When Health Care passes, they can really hang it up until 2017.

  • O'Reilly is a moron. He doesn't try to say what's true or what's right, he tries to ride the fence. So if you were raped by someone, he'll say, "Well, he did rape you, but you were dressed provocatively, so you know..."

    He swallows the whole Dem strategy that they'll not disclose the bill before it's passed. He wont' argue that this is unethical and undemocratic, he just says, "If the bills gives money to illegals, then Obama lied." As if Obama lying is news to anyone!

  • Oriely is a fence rider

  • I hate to defend O rielly but you can see on the fence.

  • i wud like to make anne dirty

  • This is why I don't watch Bill. He is a snake in the grass, and actually a lib masquerading as not being one. I am not fooled by him.

  • @gucionne crazy- everyone thinks he's a rightwing nut

  • Why don't we apply the same logic for Ann Coulter? She can say whatever she wants with no regards for consequences, exactly what she says Obama can do concerning the healthcare bill. The difference is, she can lie as much as she wants, but if Obama lies, he's got an entire nation that's gonna call him out on it. And the whole notion that capitalism is honest is bullshit. If we resorted to laissez-faire capitalism, it would be awful. Why do you think oversight exists? To keep companies honest.

  • @optimalparenchyma

    Actually, it was a democratic congress when the economic downturn started- beginning of 2007. I remember watching the DOW hit all time highs every day when the republicans were in control the previous years. It was one of the longest bull markets in history.

  • Ann Coulter completely roasted Bill O'Reilly in this debate. This video is emblematic of the precise reason why I dislike Bill. He rarely takes a solid stance on an issue without inanely pandering to liberals in some form.

    His idea that conservatives cannot talk about the bill until it is signed into law is overwhelmingly silly. If this were the case, Democrats would be able to destroy the USA without any opposition at all. Now is the time for debate; not when it is already law.

  • Liberals are too stupid that their meager salaries that make them liberal, if we work at all, because according to Fox News and Ann Coulter liberals are leeches who like free money from the government, liberals also like to take out large loans they don't like to pay back, proving to Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly that liberals caused the economic crisis.

  • are you saying your country is so stupid, that they cant see if they have a 20,000 a year salary they cant pay of a 400,000 dollar loan any time soon, they couldnt even pay the interest.

    Also the only reason every other country is in shit, is because of america we are sadly effected by your stupid economy.

  • i believe that government should have some regulations such as putting a cap on ceo salaries and packages, getting rid of this bullshit idea of loaning money to high risk clients and to increase competition. increase competition like coulter has said will get rid of many of the problems. dont have a state insurer limit.

  • Also was the fact that the single mom u mentioned thought it'd be a good idea to get a loan she couldnt afford to payback or get 400 dollar nike sneakers on her credit card. yes the ceos took too much money from public owned companies, but to ignore the greed of the american public is also stupid.

  • YES, government specifically subsidized risk and punished prudence. How do you continue to deny that government is to blame?

    Capitalism is the only moral solution. The financial crisis is entirely from excessive government preventing capitalism from ever being tried.

    Capitalism never fails. Government always fails.

    Government is the source of greed. If you want to restrain greed, you must restrain government.

    Government is greedy; capitalism is honest.

  • hahahaha dont make me laugh capitalsm is honest...

    you dont no what u are talking about.....just showing ur ignorance

  • @ghazalhora

    Capitalism is honest. Government is always harmful.

    If you don't know that, you don't know anything.

  • @herbs814 capitalism is honest hahahaha dont make me laugh.......PLEASE

  • @ghazalhora

    Capitalism IS honest; government is dishonest.

    There is nothing funny about your inability to understand this. It is the God's honest truth.

  • when you r so stupid or lazy u cant take care of yourself i guess you need the goverment you shouldnt even vote .you r nothing but debt on the working class.

  • you are sooooo stupid omg you re comment demonstrates how ignorant you are im not even gonna waste time on you please.....

    y are you so ignorant

    hey but i guess ignorance is bliss.........

  • you are showing your ignorcane back up what you say lol

  • clearly you don't understand anything about economics. Government regulation is a tyrannical imposition placed upon the free market. It is entirely unnecessary and is a weapon used by corrupt government elites to impose their will upon the honest private sector.

    Politicians committed reckless spending by not being conservative enough. Because government had shown that it was willing to trade government favors for political contributions, politicians sought reelection rather than conservatism.

  • No, the government caused the financial crisis by their OVERREGULATION, ill-advised mandates, subsidies of bad behavior, and implicit guarantee of a bailout. There was NEVER too little regulation; the problem has always been TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT INTRUSION.

  • O'Reilly is starting to parrot the left-wing rhetoric that government needs to be involved in healthcare. No wonder Hannity and Beck are gaining ground on him in the ratings.

  • GOVERNMENT intrusion into the private sector is the cause of every financial collapse. Government intrusion is the cause of every inadequacy in healthcare or in the economy.

  • the look of coulter in 2:12 is CLASSIC I love O'reily

  • I'm not a fan of either Coulter or O'Reilly, but I've got to say that O'Reilly makes more sense here than she does.

  • thankfully we have Ann!

  • dear god she's so fucking UGLY

  • O'Reilly is sickeningly socialist. And the left likes to pretend that Fox is somehow conservative?? There is nothing conservative about trusting government more than free market competition.

  • yea fuck oreilly i thought he was a upstanding guy but hes a hack, beck is a lil too dramatic (must say i think he is improving) hannity is the best of the three but watered down... Mark Levin for the win

  • damn she is right about the free market!

  • Good for O'reilly, he seems decent here. But then again, even hitler would look reasonable next to Coulter

  • Wrong. O'Reilly is delusional. Coulter is the only reasonable one on healthcare. Free market competition is always more trustworthy than government interference.

  • An interesting statement, too bad that you support it with nothing.

    Without government intervention the free market loses its freedom. A few strong private companies dominate the market and take away freedom from the smaller ones. With health care it is different than with cars: if a car company makes a bad automobile then the consumer stops buying it, if the health care industry makes a bad product PEOPLE DIE.

  • The marxist MYTH of few companies dominating only occurs from an EXCESS of regulation, never from a lack of regulation. All monopolization is the result of excessive government favoritism. Less regulation is the answer to the problem of government corruption.

    If a healthcare company makes a bad product, other companies (which always exist under a free market) provide a better alternative and compel the problematic company to improve. Again, government is the problem. Free markets are the sol'n

  • I think you're smoking a few too many herbs.  How come since Reagan then, a few multinationals corporations have broken away from the pack like they hit the NOS? It's because of the increasing liberalization of the markets and the relaxation of corporate taxes, and unchecked private capital flow.

    Do a little research and get off the bong herb.

  • Are you under the delusion that deregulation of capital flow, lower taxes, or business success are problems?

  • Anything to an extreme is a problem. Like I said, the more a few big businesses succeed, the less room there is for smaller businesses.

    Capital flow is a good thing because it allows people to freely invest. But as soon as there is a better opportunity the investors can pull everything out, and that damages the people originally invested in.  And then a large portion of the economy becomes psychology, as soon as investors get scared they pull out and the economy crashes.

  • And why do a few big businesses succeed at the expense of smaller businesses? Because government favors the big and powerful. If you care about small business, then logically you must also support small government.

  • I think the difference between u is that you envision an evil government, while I envision a benevolent one.

    You look at the people as virtuous, and the government as the predators. I see the government as a referee of vicious human nature.

    Government is supposed to level the playing field. It is supposed to make sure people behave right. Without laws and regulation human life becomes, as Thomas Hobbes once put it: "...poor, solitary, nasty, brutish and short."

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  • Government will never spend your money as well as you would spend your own money. And yet government insists on stealing from you to fund government spending. Social contract theory states that society may agree to allow the government to handle certain responsibilities and spend to fulfill ONLY these specific responsibilities. Under our Constitution, healthcare is NOT one of these responsibilities of the federal government. Therefore govt spending on healthcare is stealing and illegitimate.

  • It's not stealing if they give it back, which is what the public option does.

    Do you have any Idea what those responsibilities are? I don't know every nuance of the constitution but the essence of social contract theory is that you surrender certain natural freedoms to the body politic, and the freedoms you get in return by far outweigh the surrendered freedom. The freedom of knowing all people get health car, far surpasses the surrendered 3% in taxes that you surrender.

  • they do NOT "give it back". They run a corrupt vote-buying scheme, bribing you with your own money. Therefore the entire taxation and redistribution scheme is entirely evil (if it is not SPECIFICALLY authorized in the constitution).

    The freedom of making your own healthcare decisions is INFINITELY better than being a slave to a government theft and redistribution scheme.

    It absolutely is theft. And if you don't recognize that it's theft, then you will always remain a pathetic victim.

  • What do you think the government does with the money that they "steal"? Do you drive on roads? Does your garbage get picked up at your curb? If you're robbed, do you call the cops?You see, you do get the money back in the form of services.

    The redistribution is very slight. Are you afraid rich people will only be able to afford one more yacht, instead of two?

    And you still do have health choice, it's just that there is a government funded one for the poor.

    What kind of christian are you?

  • Christian morality includes YOU SHALL NOT STEAL. Therefore Christian morality condemns any attempts to grow government. Smaller government that does nothing more than the specific authorized activities in the Constitution is obligatory. Anything more is theft.

    If the government spends ONE DIME on health care, it is STEALING and it is WRONG.

    ALL HEALTHCARE MUST BE PRIVATE.

    Government has no right to spend one dime of taxpayer money on healthcare; not one dime.

  • Are you familiar with the christian faith? I think it has a great message, although I no longer believe in God.

    But Jesus said if a man asks for you cloak, give him your robe as well. He told the tale of the good samaratan who helped the injured man with no desire for anything in return.

    I find it contradictory that you republicans are the fervent christian, but act the opposite of the was christ did.

  • Jesus ALWAYS supported VOLUNTARY, PRIVATE charity... NEVER, NEVER, NEVER did he ever support empowering the government to STEAL from some and redistribute the stolen plunder to others. ALL of Jesus' teachings relate to private charity, NOT government theft and redistribution. Clearly you did not understand anything about Christianity at all.

  • No no, I did. He actually didn't specify weather it should be private or not. It is assumed that it would be private, but you want to legislate other aspects of your faith. You shy away from stem cell research because you believe that a soul is formed at conception. You legislate most of the ten commandments, Thou shalt not steal; thou shalt not kill. You don't leave that kind of morality up to the private sector, so why charity?

    Jesus was a socialist, you can't argue with that.

  • Jesus was NOT a socialist. Jesus did not steal. Socialism is theft. socialism is evil. Therefore Jesus was NOT a socialist.

    All charity MUST be private. If the individual gives, then it is charity. If the government steals and redistributes the stolen plunder, it is not charity, it is THEFT.

    Jesus was absolutely NEVER supportive of government theft (socialism).

    Socialism is always evil.

    Capitalism is always good.

    Jesus was perfect and without sin.

    Therefore Jesus is a capitalist.

  • This is very frightening: how ingrained with christianity capitalism is, according to the right. That makes capitalism not only an ideology, but a religion.

    Look fella, anytime you prescribe to any dogma, anything that's been written down at one point in time, anytime you do that your in trouble. You see, the world is more complex than that. Each epoch has to make decisions for itself, we constantly have to re-evaluate what we ought to do. As Orwell wrote: "Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."

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  • Capitalism is the protection of private property.

    Therefore, capitalism is entirely good.

    Socialism is the THEFT of private property.

    Therefore, socialism is entirely evil.

    Jesus was perfect and without sin.

    Therefore, Jesus was entirely opposed to socialism.

    These are just indisputable facts and sound logic.

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  • INDISPUTABLE LOGIC:

    Capitalism is the protection of private property; private property is an inalienable right; therefore capitalism is good.

    Socialism is the theft of private property; stealing is evil; therefore socialism is evil.

    We are morally required to support good and oppose evil. Therefore we are morally required to support capitalism and morally required to oppose socialism.

    This is so self-explanatory even a brainwashed liberal should be able to understand the indisputable truth.

  • What you need to prove is that Private property is a priori a good thing.

    When things are public, they are protected by the law, and owned by the people.

    Lets look at it this way: When slavery was abolished, the freeing of the slaves was taking away private property from the plantation owners; do you want to argue that that was evil?

    Would you say things like air, mountains and the rivers should be privately owned? No, everyone on the planet should have a right to those things.

  • If you refuse to claim private property as an inalienable right, you will always be a slave. Private property is, by definition, your property. So, no, no one needs to prove their right to private property. These rights are self-evident unless and until some tyrants substantiates their right to steal the property away.

    Private property is absolutely an inalienable right (see John Locke and Thomas Jefferson). Capitalism is unambiguously good and socialism is unambiguously evil.