Son, I'm a 7000 hour Canadian bush pilot and my advice to you is to stop living in a world of Daddy worship and learn something about flying. You Dad should stop flying before he kills himself and his passengers. That was appallling. He was taking off from a rough field with a tailwind and no flaps. He didn't raise the nosewheel as soon as he had enough elevator force to do so, so the nose wheel took every bump, then the mains. 28 second takeoff roll. Really kid. Get him to quit.
@Doodles1947 Oh please, don't be such a berk. Judging from how you address the owner of this footage with your self-righteous "I'm a 7000 hour Canadian Bush Pilot" talk, it is most certainly you who needs to stop living in a world of such 'worship' - SELF-worship! Listen to yourself, old chap...& stop putting down an individual who is only too proud of their father and obviously looks up to him. Let that person enjoy the footage and continue idolising their father without spoiling it for him.
@Doodles1947 I feel that it is absolutely appalling how you can crucify any positive thought that he/she had of his/her father, all in the name of gaining kudos for you being 'right' and them, 'wrong'. Get a grip on yourself, lose your ego and pass on your knowledge in a courteous fashion. You won't gain any respect like that. I couldn't BELIEVE what I was reading from you. Regards. (From a 24 year old STUDENT Commercial Pilot).
Nice trick! Keep your flaps up to gain airspeed, then drop them at the right moment to give you the lift at the right moment. That "runway" is nothing more than a strip that has been mowed! Whew! I don't think I have the stones to try that kind of take off.
Until I read the description I assumed this plane was over max gross. The description makes all the difference ... though I still say such a takeoff is dangerous ... leaves no margin for error. Cool video nonetheless!
great video! ive never taken off from an actual short-soft field! just one question, wouldnt the short field and soft field take procedures have been here? i see no back pressure and no ground effect, again great video, i dont want to start a discussion just wondering...
Impressive technique by a pilot that knew his aircraft performance capabilities and environment well! *note to those learning to fly--notice the sink as 0:48 as the pilot retracts the flaps*
Very skilfully done. Excellent technique; reduction of drag by delaying the application of flaps, as well as minimum application of rudder and ailerons, minimal bank (maintaining optimum vertical component of lift) and a planned utilization of runway and terrain; even the use of available torque and 'P' factor to his advantage and certainly every bit of 'ground effect' available to him. Given the conditions, I could not have done any better. Respect to your dad.
looked like a perfect short field takeoff. well done. good use of ground effect. I bet it was a hot day today by the way she lifted so slowly. good job.
Sorry kid, this was a careless Stunt pulled off by your Daddy... Nothing more... FYI, Doctors have a much higher accident rate... It is just a matter of time before his luck runs out...
@chimandude You're full of it, aren't you? How much do you know of bush flying, or flying in countries with few runways, and those mainly in very tight, high altitude locales where trips must be made at gross weight. Risky, indeed, skillful, absolutely, but a careless stunt? Like I said, you're full of it.
@ProChoiceJesus < I know a great deal about short, high dirt strips... I live and hunt in the West... I owned a C182 for over a decade... I currently drive a Citabria... So I know what I am talking about... It is just a matter of time before he cracks one up...
"amazing" that the pilot and passengers survived this takeoff. soft field = flaps and full elevator to bring the nose out of the dirt well before Vr. the slipping turn (whether inadvertent or intentional) so close to the ground isn't the best idea either...
@636Castle A checklist for a pilot at gross on a hot day with a short runway is completely dependent on the conditions which he/she is flying in. This is flying on the edge, which is necessary in many countries with few runways in tight spots, where highly-loaded flights must be made.
@ProChoiceJesus That isn't true, your checklist doesn't change, only the responses to the checklist change. If you want to fly in irrational conditions, and make unwise choices to fly when you shouldn't, that's on you. But that doesn't make you a great pilot. That makes you a pilot who takes chances, which wisdom and experience doesn't teach you... and sadly, this pilot isn't with us anymore.
Yep. He did it exactly right.(Obviously) I'll bet the density altitude didn't help much...with trees wizzin' by that close, flying that attitude and waiting for the speed to build it must be quite the temptation to pull back on that yoke.
@stixie211 You can never forget altitude is your friend but speed is your life. When i fly my number one concern is my airspeed cause without it i cannot do anything but fall.
How can anyone dislike this video? What happen's in this video that makes you dislike it? Its the same in all the other great videos that have dislikes.
@daniel3188 Please explain what a "trash takeoff" is. In all my years of flying I've never heard of it, and as a pilot always wanting to gain more proficiency, I'm interested in learning more about this particular type of takeoff. What is on this video is a highly-skilled departure on a wet, soft, short field on a warm day at gross weight. Liftoff is done in ground effect and the C-182 is nursed like a newborn baby into the air while avoiding (with dexterity) nearby obstructions. Amazing!
Sorry, I see no real skill demonstrated in this video, just lack of common sense and foolishness. The only thing amazing is that his flying career made it this far. The unfortunate issues are that passengers look up to pilots and place their lives in the hand of the guy at the controls. After 25-years “flying in the bush”, I see the risk taking pilot kill ratio is one pilot per five passengers. Some pilots simply do not believe in the law of physics. Stop embarrassing your Dad with this video.
@rumbi16 Flaps also produce drag, so you keep them up until shortly before liftoff to get the best acceleration. Very good demonstration of short field techniques here!
Look I am really sorry it was your dad. I dont know anything about him except the one video that is here. And I do know how to do a "short field take off" in a c-172 Which is clearly NOT demonstrated here. I am a pilot and fly at a 3000' elevation runway that regularly sees 6000' density altitude all the time and I do know short field take offs and landings. This was not an amazing take off IMHO lets leave it at that. K?
Don't understand why anyone would defend him if he is dead. Sorry for the loss of human life, but I just hope his lack of skill didn't take anyone else with him. It is not SKILL that allowed him to do this take off. Make no mistake about it, it was luck. And that always has a way of catching up to you unless you improve your skill.
@cgifly2 first of all he flew these jungles and runways for years! second of all you must not know how to fly jungle/bush. it is clearly not the same as landing in a 2000+ ft runway in the states. I would watch my dad show people how he could land and come to a complete stop before he left the numbers at the end of the runway without brakeing with a c-172 here in the states!!! He was considered the best bush pilot! you cannot make coments on stuff you do not understand or even know how to do!!!
@enorton25 Your exactly right with what you said. I am a FAR103 ultralight pilot. There are so many things which are unknown as well like what was the wind speed and direction which of coarse we would need to know the runway heading as well. A pilot knows his plane and no two planes fly the same. Ive gotten good enough with the Quicksilver MX that i fly that i stall it right above the ground and practice simulated engine outs with landings that require a 90 degree turn right before touchdown.
@enorton25 Oh yeah, he's good. Unquestionably he knows the plane and allowed for the slip to the right with little wing dip, which could have raised the stall speed enough to stall the airplane. Bush pilots have to take risks and only skilled pilots will survive long under ordinary circumstances. You could tell the plane was at gross weight. Looked like the plane took off on a hot day and if it was humid only compounded the difficulty. The pilot is skilled indeed.
@undercover2011ful Dude, you're a 19 year old urban sewer rat from the U.K., wtf would you know about anything. Use your time more productively and go see a dentist or an orthodontist.
@cgifly2 Actually it IS a skill. Anyone who can actually feel the lift of the wing is a far better flyer than one that goes strictly by what the book says. The book said the stall speed for this airplane is 65knots. Obviously thats wrong if he took off at 45. One can still fly a controlled stall while waiting for tha airspeed to rise. Skill will help you balance that stall until it does.
@cgifly2 Dude, you can never comment like that unless you personally experience the sensation of heading towards the end of a runway at speed and personally shitting yourself. This does take skill.
@cgifly2 You are a complete fool. Not too many on YouTube can claim that title. Congrats. There is NO such thing as luck when it comes to the laws of physics, like gravity, aerodynamics and the like. You think a mysterious force got him and his plane into the air? Moron. And experience, not skill enables, him to know the little tricks of the trade of overcoming a challenging situation. Go back to where ever to you came from, and leave us alone.
@cgifly2 I admire your witty trollsmanship, but you don't have to be such a rancid pile of dried offal scrapings. Sometimes people have to do the best job they can with what they have. I guess you didn't figure that one out did you? The "non profit organization" part must have also slipped your mind. I'm sure you are a respectable fellow, but that was fairly pestilent of you to comment about.
In America, we often refer to unappreciative people like you as "assholes". Good day to you!
@Nephthalem He is using flaps you dumbass, you can see them extended! Also, it would help if you read the info on the video! Nothing but skill here, something your not to familar with!
@dldonaho Okay, I see, so, in your opinion, skill trumps common sense and safety. Fine. Do me a favor, if you will: the next time you get ready to go flying, email me so I'll be sure to stay on the ground that day. Oh, yeah, and let me know where you'll be flying so I'll be sure to be in another state. If I'm not familiar with skill after 46 years of flying, then I guess it was good ole common sense and safety awareness that have kept me alive.
@Nephthalem He puts in the flaps at the last second. As a pilot, I was NEVER tought to put in flaps 2/3 down the runway, not sure why he did this. He seems to be REALLY heavy to, maybe even slightly overloaded. Good job on the departure, but that is wreckless as a pilot, even as a "bush pilot". Good piloting though.
@cgifly2 Your wish came true already over two years ago. Unfortunately it happened en route over the vast jungles of Venezuela, and the crash site has still not been found. During his medical career he saved over 200 people, you still feel like calling him an idiot? Oh, that was a rhetorical question.
My favorite thing to do on flight sims is to load the plane to max and then try taking off, it's not easy and must be much harder when your life depends on it.
Venezuela= High temps and High humidity. He did a fantastic job on take off. Kept on on the ground until it was flying on the wings and doesn't try to force the climb out. Very well done indeed.
Shut up you qweer. Get a life and stop trying to be smart by saying he's not a pilot or an experienced pilot. Who the fuck are you? Top Gun? Maverick? Fuck off!
To do that in that condition (speed, weight, short strip) the pilot is incredible! I'd still be pulling vinyl out of my ass because my sphincter would have clamped so hard!
This is an excellent definition of what 'behind the power curve' means. It was just a shade above stall speed at take off for that very shallow angle of attack. Pitch the nose any higher and the plane immediately slows down and stalls. By dropping the flaps before takeoff, he lowered (cheated) the plane's stall speed a few MPH. Note, that he was unable to affect a climb until he reached a sufficient speed (behind the power curve). He used 'ground effect' as the rest of his runway.
Nice flying. There are NO soft field takeoff or landing standardized procedures but IMO, 10 deg of flaps upon ground roll doesn't create enough drag to matter. Having to make the flap input at speed and half way down the runway is an unnecessary step. Just my opinion....but again nice flying
Next time you should have an advertisement flag on the back(the ones you see planes dragging around over the city)saying "this plane is not mine". Get's alot of happy faces trust me.
Wow. You've got to have balls of steel, and you have to know your airplane and have a ton of confidence in your ability to fly to take off under these conditions. Lot's of people would 'claim' they could do it, but only a handful can actually pull it off. What an amazing display of piloting.
I use 10 deg. flaps on any draggy surface and some up elevator but not over 5 deg. of AOA. Never down force elevator on the roll. Some up elevator (per Manual) will lighten the weigh of plane on the grass and help accelerate faster. If no up elevator at all the weight will be higher on wheels and take off roll longer like i see here. Sank at :47 due killed the flaps up when still needs to climb steep like at :47. Anyway sorry for the accident. Probably lost engine and sank into the forest. RIP
Man before I read the whole description I was really wondering there what the hell was up with the extreme delayed rotation and failure to climb out. Now that I read he lifted off under that kind of weight and used ground effect to essentially substitute for runway, that is pretty friggin' ballsy. Don't know that I would try that myself. I would throw some people's bags out before I chanced a stall warning immediately after leaving the ground. LOL I hope they find him.
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why didn't the pilot have full back pressure on the roll? this is clearly a soft field take-off...he wouldn't have had to rotate at the end of the strip if he had used the soft field method. in this instance, it is amazing he got off the ground when he did.
First,for any aircraft,consult POH regarding the amount of flaps allowed for takeoff.In this ac, i believe, 10 degrees will give the best angle of climb (Vx).Typically, flaps are set 10 before t/o.Here,you see the pilot put down 10 flaps right before rotation.Unorthodox technique,but he is doing it to minimize all possible drag during the roll to get to Vr sooner.I suppose it may shorten the t/o roll somewhat.He is clearly trying to squeeze every foot out of his takeoff, hence the technique.
Man... That's a nuts takeoff! What altitude was that airfield at? How hot is it usually there? Something similar happened to me in a C152 taking off from a short runway near Orlando, FL in an extremely hot summer day, with less than half full tanks and a passenger. I had to "swerve" after the takeoff to avoid several trees and a light pole, while VERY slowly retracting my flaps. As soon as we reached about 200 feet the performance started picking up and we "climbed out of the forest".
Fantastic video. And YES, it's a "common" procedure used by the bush pilots.
I grew up in Zaire ( now the DRC) and one of my instructor was using it ( and he had many many hours of flying) and I flew as well in SA with another very experienced pilot, in a Jabiru and 4 passenger and a bit of a "high" density altitude. we used the same technique. It makes sense. Less drag, get your speed quicker, some flaps and take off! Not learned in the flying schools but many experienced pilots are using it.
Ok...one word...OVERLOADED... i don't know about the flaps coming down 3/4 down the strip but nobody can argue the fact that the aircraft was overloaded.
No flight is so important as to fly with weight and balance issues like this. If your lucky enough to get airborn you can fly into a downdraft and becasue the aircraft is so overgross be unable to maintain sufficient altitude. This is not proper risk management.
@hammerogod Go to Botswana, specifically Maun. Thats where I went after my CPL and hundreds have gone before and since. That teaches you real flying in a good environment with some of the best and most experienced on hand to teach you tricks! 400 hours on a 206 there will teach you more then any school could.
The flaps are down 10 degrees: The appropriate setting for soft/short field takeoff. It seems, the runway is at a high altitude, plane loaded and being only one strip, the pilot turned(rudder turn) into the cross wind after takeoff(notice grass moving) to gain altitude over less distance and to avoid the trees at the runways end. This man is a very good pilot, and having seen two other videos of him flying here, is adept at making the best out of difficult conditions.
No need to lift the nose early. Lifting the nose just adds drag. He did it exactly right. Unless the field is soft, there is no reason to lift the nose early or extend flaps early.
@woodbyron yo mr. microsoft pilot, take it from someone (myself) who knows. I fly DAILY off of grass that sometimes is wet. I fly skydivers in a 206 and 182 off of a soft dirt strip. If I was flying the plane in this video, I'd been airborne 500 ft sooner and saved the nosewheel a beating. Now,,,restart your puter mr armchair pilot.
@tailwheelflier I think its you who needs to get more stick time in your sim. I've been flying a STOL 182 for 15 years. Lifting the nose early does nothing but increase drag by increasing the angle of attack. Obviously you know nothing about aerodynamics. Do you realize how high the evevation is on this strip? Dragging the plane down a 2,000 foot runway with the nose up when its nowhere near ready to fly is pointless. Ever seen a tailwheel pilot raise the tail on takeoff? It decreases drag
@tailwheelflier Mr aerodynamics meet Mr. tailwheelfier. Mr tailwheelflier meet the reason we don't raise the nose prematurely on take-offs when the strip is short, at high elevation, and the plane is heavy. Perhaps you get the plane off the ground 500 feet sooner because your ego is so inflated it adds buoyancy?
Balls of steel. This guy barely lived to tell about this one. Too dangerous for me. This is the one that winds up on the evening news. Glad he made it ok. The safety margins are there for your protection not to be pushed because you got in a hurry.
Flaps and W&B please haha! Oh yes and the D Alt might have been high that day too who knows =P But check all that shit before you start barrelin towards a mountainside.
This a 5000' elevation field with 100 degrees F and no wind on a 700' grass and wet airstrip, he use flaps at the end of the ground roll and keep it low to gain ground effect. Using all factors possible to gain aerodynamic efficiency. This all fashion bush pilot knows what he is doing.
Flaps up during roll decreases drag so you accelerate faster. Timing and knowing your aircraft is crucial. I've flow on military airlifters and there are many procedures not performed in "normal" flying to get in and out of tight spots.
@Bigfoot1955 Speed is not the objective in C-182 soft field departure. The drag you speak of is actually the lift you need to get out of that quickly. Full power, flaps set, yoke full back to get the fragile nose wheel off the ground. Or a combination of soft and short field procedures.
Et en regardant encore cette video, il fo signaler que la fin de la piste n'avantage pas du tout le decollage, et des que l'avion a decolle, il vire a gauche tres timidement presque au vitesse de decrochage, et meme l'avion a pique legerement etle pilote a su garder un leger cabre, pour gagner de la vitesse et la je trouve qu'il tt de meme du merite!
c'est sur que s'il y avait un petit cran de volet avant le décollage, l'avion aurait vite décollé et non attendre la fin de la piste et decoller timidement! pas de rancune!
wow... amazing flying. So sorry to hear that he is missing. Keep faith and know that, if the worst did happen, it was for a righteous cause. God bless and good luck.
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So what is so amazing about this take off?. This pilot is totally not experienced. He is a typical pilot that causes PILOT ERRORS. Notice at the initial roll, his flaps are up. That tells me he did not do a pre-take off check. In our flying club, a girl who took a Cessna 172 up crashed in some houses down the runway because she failed to lower her flaps.
@itsmonti1: Then your flying club isn't teaching good flying. You should be able to fly a 172 without flaps easily. The girl that crashed in your club did not crash because she didn't have flaps in. On most runways over 2k' I don't even use flaps. They're not needed. In gusty conditions most of the time I don't even land with flaps either, or at most 10 degrees.
Look at all the short takeoff bush flying...flaps are lowered near rotation speed. It's how it's done.
@itsmonti1 wow you clearly dont know the difference between flying in your little club and bush flying! in the us its so easy to land most cessna's without even touching your flaps... do it all the time! bush flying you use your flaps to get an additional yank off the ground... if you understood how to fly you would know this but i guess you only know how to fly not the concept of how airplanes work. i always tell people that there are people who fly and people who know how to fly...
@enorton25 I used to fly a cessna 206 in the Mosquitia, Honduras. Sometimes I had to use full flaps for take off on soggy fields. You start your take off run with flaps 0 in order to minimize drag at the beginnig of the take off run, and upon reaching 50 kts, you set full flaps in order to maximize lift, rotate, levell off immediately , accelerate, and retract flaps slowly.
@enorton25 Exactly!!! I was a flight instructor for about 15 years. I always told people that there were 3 types of aviators; pilots, flyers, and airplane drivers. Pilots are the pros that know the numbers and know the airplane. Flyers know the airplane and use their experience to adjust for the situation making the flight as safe and efficient as possible. Airplane drivers depend on the checklist to help them keep up with the airplane. They all use check lists, but drivers 'need' them.
@enorton25 flaps just add a little lift by increasing surface area of the wing... nothing wrong with being used during takeoff. Flaps are like a painkiller.... a little is ok, too much can cause problems
@enorton25 For sure, it's a great take off!!! Be proud of your dad and follow his steps!!! He's doing an amazing job by flying for a non profit organization and helping people!!
@klesmer You must be on the rag making such negative comments. Don't you have a life or anything better and positive to say? I hate to be around you with such a pathetic, pessimistic, attitude. you must be a pretty angry person. Get a job and eat a salad!
@itsmonti1I would tell you to fuck yourself but one has to have a penis before that's possible. I just get sick of armchair experts commenting on subjects they no nothing about. I have had more of a life than you could ever hope to and you are correct, you would not like to be around me one little bit, I don't suffer fools at all. So crawl back under mommies skirt.
goood advice you should take it .that was a real bad take off even for a heavey plane .don't give up you'r day job
Taildragger2411 11 hours ago
Son, I'm a 7000 hour Canadian bush pilot and my advice to you is to stop living in a world of Daddy worship and learn something about flying. You Dad should stop flying before he kills himself and his passengers. That was appallling. He was taking off from a rough field with a tailwind and no flaps. He didn't raise the nosewheel as soon as he had enough elevator force to do so, so the nose wheel took every bump, then the mains. 28 second takeoff roll. Really kid. Get him to quit.
Doodles1947 19 hours ago
@Doodles1947 100% agreed.
meeksdigital 17 hours ago
@Doodles1947 Oh please, don't be such a berk. Judging from how you address the owner of this footage with your self-righteous "I'm a 7000 hour Canadian Bush Pilot" talk, it is most certainly you who needs to stop living in a world of such 'worship' - SELF-worship! Listen to yourself, old chap...& stop putting down an individual who is only too proud of their father and obviously looks up to him. Let that person enjoy the footage and continue idolising their father without spoiling it for him.
davidgeorge31 1 hour ago
@Doodles1947 I feel that it is absolutely appalling how you can crucify any positive thought that he/she had of his/her father, all in the name of gaining kudos for you being 'right' and them, 'wrong'. Get a grip on yourself, lose your ego and pass on your knowledge in a courteous fashion. You won't gain any respect like that. I couldn't BELIEVE what I was reading from you. Regards. (From a 24 year old STUDENT Commercial Pilot).
davidgeorge31 1 hour ago
i think it's to mush heavy
moonshine485 2 days ago
I like the cheeky flap extension near the end of the runway ;)
lardman2228 3 days ago
STALL jajaja :P nice!
QeXeQ 4 days ago
All luck..Man I would be crapping my pants.
farfetch7 5 days ago
Good for Dad, I sure hope he doesn't push his "luck" to far. That looks dangerous to me but I'm not a pilot.
Budtheahole 5 days ago
Nice trick! Keep your flaps up to gain airspeed, then drop them at the right moment to give you the lift at the right moment. That "runway" is nothing more than a strip that has been mowed! Whew! I don't think I have the stones to try that kind of take off.
0boeing0aircraft0 5 days ago
Nicely done. Kudos to your dad.
mightaswellbe 5 days ago
RESPECT!!!
KeepOnBluesin 1 week ago
that pilot has my sincere respect, I've been a ppl for over 30 years
kelvinway 1 week ago
That guy knows his aeroplane.
transdrole 1 week ago
ohh very good take off, he used flaps in a right moment!!
91bjsd 1 week ago
Wow
AceDoubleG 1 week ago
Hot and heavy. Looking for some cushion over that meadow. thanks for memory
mygaboo 1 week ago
Holly fuck!!!
chinnosequeira 1 week ago
so the CG might be out of limit but the pilot still decided to takeoff and this is what you call amazing? I think its a not very good judgement.
ounpug 1 week ago
Until I read the description I assumed this plane was over max gross. The description makes all the difference ... though I still say such a takeoff is dangerous ... leaves no margin for error. Cool video nonetheless!
rossmetacraft 1 week ago
great video! ive never taken off from an actual short-soft field! just one question, wouldnt the short field and soft field take procedures have been here? i see no back pressure and no ground effect, again great video, i dont want to start a discussion just wondering...
simfgta 1 week ago
respect!!! best regards and congrats for your dad! :)
PabisiakStudios 1 week ago
Impressive technique by a pilot that knew his aircraft performance capabilities and environment well! *note to those learning to fly--notice the sink as 0:48 as the pilot retracts the flaps*
CPPA 1 week ago
Very skilfully done. Excellent technique; reduction of drag by delaying the application of flaps, as well as minimum application of rudder and ailerons, minimal bank (maintaining optimum vertical component of lift) and a planned utilization of runway and terrain; even the use of available torque and 'P' factor to his advantage and certainly every bit of 'ground effect' available to him. Given the conditions, I could not have done any better. Respect to your dad.
jetrider2254 1 week ago
R.I.P BOB NORTON
TheErikFasterling 1 month ago
looked like a perfect short field takeoff. well done. good use of ground effect. I bet it was a hot day today by the way she lifted so slowly. good job.
robertl30 1 month ago
Sorry kid, this was a careless Stunt pulled off by your Daddy... Nothing more... FYI, Doctors have a much higher accident rate... It is just a matter of time before his luck runs out...
chimandude 1 month ago
@chimandude You're full of it, aren't you? How much do you know of bush flying, or flying in countries with few runways, and those mainly in very tight, high altitude locales where trips must be made at gross weight. Risky, indeed, skillful, absolutely, but a careless stunt? Like I said, you're full of it.
ProChoiceJesus 2 weeks ago
@ProChoiceJesus < I know a great deal about short, high dirt strips... I live and hunt in the West... I owned a C182 for over a decade... I currently drive a Citabria... So I know what I am talking about... It is just a matter of time before he cracks one up...
chimandude 2 weeks ago
sorry don't see anything amazing there, mine takes off in 50 feet, and yes we are on our way to valdez alaska for the competition.
buzzy1147 1 month ago
@buzzy1147 not at gross it doesn't. :)
robertl30 1 month ago
That thing looks way underpowered.
FesterBable 1 month ago
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perceptivum 1 month ago
"amazing" that the pilot and passengers survived this takeoff. soft field = flaps and full elevator to bring the nose out of the dirt well before Vr. the slipping turn (whether inadvertent or intentional) so close to the ground isn't the best idea either...
deltaromeo5 1 month ago
That looks skillful.
gr4l9um20b7o 1 month ago
God bless your dad for what he did.
Gabrielwinning 1 month ago
I like the apparent lowering flaps in mid-takeoff run technique. I wonder what this guy's checklist looks like.
636Castle 1 month ago
@636Castle A checklist for a pilot at gross on a hot day with a short runway is completely dependent on the conditions which he/she is flying in. This is flying on the edge, which is necessary in many countries with few runways in tight spots, where highly-loaded flights must be made.
ProChoiceJesus 2 weeks ago
@ProChoiceJesus That isn't true, your checklist doesn't change, only the responses to the checklist change. If you want to fly in irrational conditions, and make unwise choices to fly when you shouldn't, that's on you. But that doesn't make you a great pilot. That makes you a pilot who takes chances, which wisdom and experience doesn't teach you... and sadly, this pilot isn't with us anymore.
636Castle 2 weeks ago
that was one sluggish 182
OWHSsoccer07 1 month ago
Everyone should just shu up it was a perfect take-off for a bush pilot. If you think you can do better make a video and do it.
360FaTaL360 1 month ago
Looks awfully fuc.... dangerous to me.
Nabokov50 1 month ago
I tried but you wont let me.
cgifly2 1 month ago
Geez, Me and the Lord would be on a first name basis if I was in there with him.
mj9287 1 month ago
plane seems overloaded a bit...
Gazsoka66 1 month ago
Yep. He did it exactly right.(Obviously) I'll bet the density altitude didn't help much...with trees wizzin' by that close, flying that attitude and waiting for the speed to build it must be quite the temptation to pull back on that yoke.
stixie211 1 month ago
@stixie211 You can never forget altitude is your friend but speed is your life. When i fly my number one concern is my airspeed cause without it i cannot do anything but fall.
SimGameIt 1 month ago
There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots...
deweypug 1 month ago
I'm impressed. Nice video. Very calm hands to use all of the runway, hold it in ground effect and continue on.
tscottme 1 month ago
How can anyone dislike this video? What happen's in this video that makes you dislike it? Its the same in all the other great videos that have dislikes.
BlindPilot95 1 month ago
@BlindPilot95 because people don't like it. that's why the button is there.
foodtogo1 1 month ago
For sure a nice and amazing demonstration of short field take off. Not for the unexperienced.
But it is risky considering passengers are on board...
BTW if Cessna says stall speed is 65... it is NOT 45, fully loaded in warm air... or it doesn't leave the ground...
Gasoil4ever 1 month ago
How is this amazing? It's just another trash takeoff...
daniel3188 1 month ago
@daniel3188 Please explain what a "trash takeoff" is. In all my years of flying I've never heard of it, and as a pilot always wanting to gain more proficiency, I'm interested in learning more about this particular type of takeoff. What is on this video is a highly-skilled departure on a wet, soft, short field on a warm day at gross weight. Liftoff is done in ground effect and the C-182 is nursed like a newborn baby into the air while avoiding (with dexterity) nearby obstructions. Amazing!
ProChoiceJesus 2 weeks ago
No skill means you can do it repeatedly with out killing your self he could not. Look up the word "skill" in the dictionary.
cgifly2 1 month ago
made me chuckle lol just slowly going right..
PrivatePeterson 2 months ago
Parabens pelo video e pela ação do seu pai.
francis5782 2 months ago
your Dad has huge balls!
haloaste 2 months ago
that seemed like a pretty typical takeoff to me?
TOSSIELaSALAD 2 months ago
Sorry, I see no real skill demonstrated in this video, just lack of common sense and foolishness. The only thing amazing is that his flying career made it this far. The unfortunate issues are that passengers look up to pilots and place their lives in the hand of the guy at the controls. After 25-years “flying in the bush”, I see the risk taking pilot kill ratio is one pilot per five passengers. Some pilots simply do not believe in the law of physics. Stop embarrassing your Dad with this video.
680F 2 months ago
he forgot to deploy flaps before the takeoff run..how do u put flaps down at the end of the runway?..
rumbi16 2 months ago
@rumbi16 Flaps also produce drag, so you keep them up until shortly before liftoff to get the best acceleration. Very good demonstration of short field techniques here!
YsFlightTraining 2 months ago
werkin that ground effect
michaelgold812 2 months ago
wow! planes can fly?
metallexone 2 months ago
You got lucky. There was skill to fly like that, but if you continue to push your luck, you will Crash!
You get one life, be smart with it, no chances!
PepDawg7171 2 months ago
Look I am really sorry it was your dad. I dont know anything about him except the one video that is here. And I do know how to do a "short field take off" in a c-172 Which is clearly NOT demonstrated here. I am a pilot and fly at a 3000' elevation runway that regularly sees 6000' density altitude all the time and I do know short field take offs and landings. This was not an amazing take off IMHO lets leave it at that. K?
cgifly2 2 months ago
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Don't understand why anyone would defend him if he is dead. Sorry for the loss of human life, but I just hope his lack of skill didn't take anyone else with him. It is not SKILL that allowed him to do this take off. Make no mistake about it, it was luck. And that always has a way of catching up to you unless you improve your skill.
cgifly2 2 months ago
@cgifly2 first of all he flew these jungles and runways for years! second of all you must not know how to fly jungle/bush. it is clearly not the same as landing in a 2000+ ft runway in the states. I would watch my dad show people how he could land and come to a complete stop before he left the numbers at the end of the runway without brakeing with a c-172 here in the states!!! He was considered the best bush pilot! you cannot make coments on stuff you do not understand or even know how to do!!!
enorton25 2 months ago 34
@enorton25 Why did he leave the notch of flap untill half way down the strip?
AR15RNZAF 2 months ago
@enorton25 Your exactly right with what you said. I am a FAR103 ultralight pilot. There are so many things which are unknown as well like what was the wind speed and direction which of coarse we would need to know the runway heading as well. A pilot knows his plane and no two planes fly the same. Ive gotten good enough with the Quicksilver MX that i fly that i stall it right above the ground and practice simulated engine outs with landings that require a 90 degree turn right before touchdown.
SimGameIt 1 month ago
@enorton25 Oh yeah, he's good. Unquestionably he knows the plane and allowed for the slip to the right with little wing dip, which could have raised the stall speed enough to stall the airplane. Bush pilots have to take risks and only skilled pilots will survive long under ordinary circumstances. You could tell the plane was at gross weight. Looked like the plane took off on a hot day and if it was humid only compounded the difficulty. The pilot is skilled indeed.
Mightiflier 1 month ago
@enorton25 you are a cunt
undercover2011ful 2 weeks ago
@undercover2011ful Dude, you're a 19 year old urban sewer rat from the U.K., wtf would you know about anything. Use your time more productively and go see a dentist or an orthodontist.
LunaticFringeHunter 1 week ago
@enorton25 He's just a simple troll that "flies" simulators and has never been in a real plane. Don't listen to his moronic rants.
tomperanteau 22 hours ago
@cgifly2 Actually it IS a skill. Anyone who can actually feel the lift of the wing is a far better flyer than one that goes strictly by what the book says. The book said the stall speed for this airplane is 65knots. Obviously thats wrong if he took off at 45. One can still fly a controlled stall while waiting for tha airspeed to rise. Skill will help you balance that stall until it does.
AesopsRetreat 2 months ago
@cgifly2 Dude, you can never comment like that unless you personally experience the sensation of heading towards the end of a runway at speed and personally shitting yourself. This does take skill.
OnTheShouldersOfGuy 1 month ago
@cgifly2 You are a complete fool. Not too many on YouTube can claim that title. Congrats. There is NO such thing as luck when it comes to the laws of physics, like gravity, aerodynamics and the like. You think a mysterious force got him and his plane into the air? Moron. And experience, not skill enables, him to know the little tricks of the trade of overcoming a challenging situation. Go back to where ever to you came from, and leave us alone.
thedreamliner2012 1 month ago
@cgifly2 Aren't you just a glorified twat!
bonkerlad 1 month ago
@cgifly2 I admire your witty trollsmanship, but you don't have to be such a rancid pile of dried offal scrapings. Sometimes people have to do the best job they can with what they have. I guess you didn't figure that one out did you? The "non profit organization" part must have also slipped your mind. I'm sure you are a respectable fellow, but that was fairly pestilent of you to comment about.
In America, we often refer to unappreciative people like you as "assholes". Good day to you!
jihadjared 4 days ago 4
"Hey did you remember the flaps?!"
"I dunno, was it on the checklist?"
poexxope 2 months ago
look like they just finish moe that strip!
ManRupununi 2 months ago
This is not an "Amazing" take-off, this is alot of luck, with some skill, and bad pilot decision making.
lvbearboy 2 months ago
@lvbearboy a lot of luck? 'some' skill? Bad pilot decision making? Are you kidding me?
WhiteArcticFoxhound 2 months ago
He's not using any flaps at all and he's obviously overloaded. That kind of flying in the U.S. would result in a revoked pilot's license.
Nephthalem 2 months ago
@Nephthalem He is using flaps you dumbass, you can see them extended! Also, it would help if you read the info on the video! Nothing but skill here, something your not to familar with!
dldonaho 2 months ago
@dldonaho Okay, I see, so, in your opinion, skill trumps common sense and safety. Fine. Do me a favor, if you will: the next time you get ready to go flying, email me so I'll be sure to stay on the ground that day. Oh, yeah, and let me know where you'll be flying so I'll be sure to be in another state. If I'm not familiar with skill after 46 years of flying, then I guess it was good ole common sense and safety awareness that have kept me alive.
Nephthalem 2 months ago
@Nephthalem He puts in the flaps at the last second. As a pilot, I was NEVER tought to put in flaps 2/3 down the runway, not sure why he did this. He seems to be REALLY heavy to, maybe even slightly overloaded. Good job on the departure, but that is wreckless as a pilot, even as a "bush pilot". Good piloting though.
lvbearboy 2 months ago
Hes an idiot who is going to get himself killed one day. Should have been using flaps at least 20%. Thats what there for!
cgifly2 2 months ago
@cgifly2 this is a skilled pilot ..
thecrackerboy 2 months ago
@cgifly2 Your wish came true already over two years ago. Unfortunately it happened en route over the vast jungles of Venezuela, and the crash site has still not been found. During his medical career he saved over 200 people, you still feel like calling him an idiot? Oh, that was a rhetorical question.
snaip 2 months ago
My favorite thing to do on flight sims is to load the plane to max and then try taking off, it's not easy and must be much harder when your life depends on it.
repawnd 2 months ago
Wow, nice flying there.
AntiFederalist1 2 months ago
trying to hold off pulling the stick back in those kind of conditions is not an easy thing for any type of experienced pilot
mrandreasn90 2 months ago
Venezuela= High temps and High humidity. He did a fantastic job on take off. Kept on on the ground until it was flying on the wings and doesn't try to force the climb out. Very well done indeed.
cwjflies 2 months ago
Looks like he's doing a by the book soft field short field TO.
tsbrownie 3 months ago
awesome! The video description made this video. thumbs up ;D
RoboTekno 3 months ago 11
This guy either can't fly a kite or he had a hell of a tail wind In case of rail wind taxi to end of runway would be a better choice than what he did
Nothing amazing on this clip thou
Looked like my first take off
Lame lol
4166176114 3 months ago
Shut up you qweer. Get a life and stop trying to be smart by saying he's not a pilot or an experienced pilot. Who the fuck are you? Top Gun? Maverick? Fuck off!
MrCocktailsausage 3 months ago
To do that in that condition (speed, weight, short strip) the pilot is incredible! I'd still be pulling vinyl out of my ass because my sphincter would have clamped so hard!
oldfart387 3 months ago
A strong tail-wind?
LTF85199 3 months ago
What special about it ?
Alexvideoclip 3 months ago
This is an excellent definition of what 'behind the power curve' means. It was just a shade above stall speed at take off for that very shallow angle of attack. Pitch the nose any higher and the plane immediately slows down and stalls. By dropping the flaps before takeoff, he lowered (cheated) the plane's stall speed a few MPH. Note, that he was unable to affect a climb until he reached a sufficient speed (behind the power curve). He used 'ground effect' as the rest of his runway.
Mrcodewarrior77006 3 months ago
Beautiful turn after take off
YagoRj357 3 months ago
Nice flying. There are NO soft field takeoff or landing standardized procedures but IMO, 10 deg of flaps upon ground roll doesn't create enough drag to matter. Having to make the flap input at speed and half way down the runway is an unnecessary step. Just my opinion....but again nice flying
signsnowlc 3 months ago
Next time you should have an advertisement flag on the back(the ones you see planes dragging around over the city)saying "this plane is not mine". Get's alot of happy faces trust me.
Jayz159ify 3 months ago
Wow. You've got to have balls of steel, and you have to know your airplane and have a ton of confidence in your ability to fly to take off under these conditions. Lot's of people would 'claim' they could do it, but only a handful can actually pull it off. What an amazing display of piloting.
Yo!
YoBroMan 4 months ago
@YoBroMan Or you just have to be a little nuts. :-D
LorddGray 3 months ago
nice - some of us know that sinking feeling while willing the AS needle... best thoughts to the family
MrFixErit 4 months ago
Beautiful technique.
slyker25 4 months ago
I wonder what the DA was
toogoodbw 4 months ago
Remembered the flaps at VR LOL
larsjake 4 months ago
I THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA CRASH ATLEAST 3 OR 4 TIMES
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findingbobnorton2009 4 months ago
I use 10 deg. flaps on any draggy surface and some up elevator but not over 5 deg. of AOA. Never down force elevator on the roll. Some up elevator (per Manual) will lighten the weigh of plane on the grass and help accelerate faster. If no up elevator at all the weight will be higher on wheels and take off roll longer like i see here. Sank at :47 due killed the flaps up when still needs to climb steep like at :47. Anyway sorry for the accident. Probably lost engine and sank into the forest. RIP
CFITOMAHAWK2 4 months ago
wow that shows you what ground effect really is
super1aviator 4 months ago
Man before I read the whole description I was really wondering there what the hell was up with the extreme delayed rotation and failure to climb out. Now that I read he lifted off under that kind of weight and used ground effect to essentially substitute for runway, that is pretty friggin' ballsy. Don't know that I would try that myself. I would throw some people's bags out before I chanced a stall warning immediately after leaving the ground. LOL I hope they find him.
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wwwtotalitaerde 5 months ago
why didn't the pilot have full back pressure on the roll? this is clearly a soft field take-off...he wouldn't have had to rotate at the end of the strip if he had used the soft field method. in this instance, it is amazing he got off the ground when he did.
highflyerl23 5 months ago
Wow! For everyone who really understands how to fly, this guy is a pretty dogone spectacular pilot. What guts it takes to roll and rotate like that.
Yo!
YoBroMan 5 months ago
First,for any aircraft,consult POH regarding the amount of flaps allowed for takeoff.In this ac, i believe, 10 degrees will give the best angle of climb (Vx).Typically, flaps are set 10 before t/o.Here,you see the pilot put down 10 flaps right before rotation.Unorthodox technique,but he is doing it to minimize all possible drag during the roll to get to Vr sooner.I suppose it may shorten the t/o roll somewhat.He is clearly trying to squeeze every foot out of his takeoff, hence the technique.
MultiPie314 5 months ago
There's a pilot with GUTS!. I'd be screaming "Climb! Climb!" while I peed myself.
mrthebillman 5 months ago 14
Also, for all of you who think running up the engine before starting the takeoff roll is stupid, it's called a PERFORMANCE TAKEOFF.
emiratesA380NCL 5 months ago
Enorton, Your dad is excellent, excellent pilot, excellent man. God bless and I hope you get news about him soon.
emiratesA380NCL 5 months ago
Man... That's a nuts takeoff! What altitude was that airfield at? How hot is it usually there? Something similar happened to me in a C152 taking off from a short runway near Orlando, FL in an extremely hot summer day, with less than half full tanks and a passenger. I had to "swerve" after the takeoff to avoid several trees and a light pole, while VERY slowly retracting my flaps. As soon as we reached about 200 feet the performance started picking up and we "climbed out of the forest".
Hands4Surgery 5 months ago
it not har du take off or landing a cessna or piper
marvalando 5 months ago
Fantastic video. And YES, it's a "common" procedure used by the bush pilots.
I grew up in Zaire ( now the DRC) and one of my instructor was using it ( and he had many many hours of flying) and I flew as well in SA with another very experienced pilot, in a Jabiru and 4 passenger and a bit of a "high" density altitude. we used the same technique. It makes sense. Less drag, get your speed quicker, some flaps and take off! Not learned in the flying schools but many experienced pilots are using it.
alwonner62 6 months ago
absolutely beautiful!
cardude1992 6 months ago
I'd just wanna stick my head out of the window at 15,000ft
MRWALKER500000 6 months ago
wow..that was very close to stalling...
marcelkade 6 months ago
Ok...one word...OVERLOADED... i don't know about the flaps coming down 3/4 down the strip but nobody can argue the fact that the aircraft was overloaded.
cfroemming17 6 months ago
No flight is so important as to fly with weight and balance issues like this. If your lucky enough to get airborn you can fly into a downdraft and becasue the aircraft is so overgross be unable to maintain sufficient altitude. This is not proper risk management.
sfward1967 6 months ago
If by "Amazing" you mean "He almost busted his ass" then this is an OK video.
Short grass (and unpaved) fields are where some unique flying skills are learned.
Hopefully not at your Insurer's expense.
Yeee Hawww Buck, gimme 2400 rpm and 40° flaps ...we'll git dis sucker up.
hammerogod 6 months ago
I wanted to add, for the record, that I don't do Bush Flying.
Yeah...a few touch and goes on dirt but in an empty plane at near sea level.
If I operated out of the real bush I would probably end up as a stain on a Banyan tree.
hammerogod 6 months ago
@hammerogod Go to Botswana, specifically Maun. Thats where I went after my CPL and hundreds have gone before and since. That teaches you real flying in a good environment with some of the best and most experienced on hand to teach you tricks! 400 hours on a 206 there will teach you more then any school could.
gnarkillkicksass 6 months ago
What the hell? WW 2 Eastern front pilots used better runways!
ta666ak666 6 months ago
@woodbyron for an "armchair" pilot you sure as hell just put him in his place! deserves some kudos! (:
frogfoot21 7 months ago
not amazing, someone doesn't know how to do a weight and balance
rumpastumpa 7 months ago
The flaps are down 10 degrees: The appropriate setting for soft/short field takeoff. It seems, the runway is at a high altitude, plane loaded and being only one strip, the pilot turned(rudder turn) into the cross wind after takeoff(notice grass moving) to gain altitude over less distance and to avoid the trees at the runways end. This man is a very good pilot, and having seen two other videos of him flying here, is adept at making the best out of difficult conditions.
newcamper 7 months ago
It is all a "Balancing" act and every action has a part to play!!
bonjovibob 7 months ago
It is all a "Balancing" act and every action has a part to play!!
bonjovibob 7 months ago
A 5 nudos de haber entrado en perdida :/ Que buen piloto o buena suerte :)
Only 5 knots to stall :/ Good Pilot or lucky pilot!
nachokapo26 8 months ago
you need more speed to take off..and little more space :-).. great video clip
leksepetra 8 months ago
nosewheel should have been in the air 30 feet into the takeoff roll,,,,totally unimpressed, NEXT?
tailwheelflier 8 months ago
No need to lift the nose early. Lifting the nose just adds drag. He did it exactly right. Unless the field is soft, there is no reason to lift the nose early or extend flaps early.
woodbyron 7 months ago 2
@woodbyron yo mr. microsoft pilot, take it from someone (myself) who knows. I fly DAILY off of grass that sometimes is wet. I fly skydivers in a 206 and 182 off of a soft dirt strip. If I was flying the plane in this video, I'd been airborne 500 ft sooner and saved the nosewheel a beating. Now,,,restart your puter mr armchair pilot.
tailwheelflier 7 months ago
@tailwheelflier I think its you who needs to get more stick time in your sim. I've been flying a STOL 182 for 15 years. Lifting the nose early does nothing but increase drag by increasing the angle of attack. Obviously you know nothing about aerodynamics. Do you realize how high the evevation is on this strip? Dragging the plane down a 2,000 foot runway with the nose up when its nowhere near ready to fly is pointless. Ever seen a tailwheel pilot raise the tail on takeoff? It decreases drag
woodbyron 7 months ago
@tailwheelflier Mr aerodynamics meet Mr. tailwheelfier. Mr tailwheelflier meet the reason we don't raise the nose prematurely on take-offs when the strip is short, at high elevation, and the plane is heavy. Perhaps you get the plane off the ground 500 feet sooner because your ego is so inflated it adds buoyancy?
STI821 6 months ago
Balls of steel. This guy barely lived to tell about this one. Too dangerous for me. This is the one that winds up on the evening news. Glad he made it ok. The safety margins are there for your protection not to be pushed because you got in a hurry.
cashpoboy 8 months ago
Flaps and W&B please haha! Oh yes and the D Alt might have been high that day too who knows =P But check all that shit before you start barrelin towards a mountainside.
keithacoustic86 8 months ago
@ Gran Sabana, Venezuela-South America
helicorp 8 months ago
This a 5000' elevation field with 100 degrees F and no wind on a 700' grass and wet airstrip, he use flaps at the end of the ground roll and keep it low to gain ground effect. Using all factors possible to gain aerodynamic efficiency. This all fashion bush pilot knows what he is doing.
helicorp 8 months ago
wow ,, seems alot of weight in that baby
Earssss 8 months ago
dude those bush-airports -no matter where if in South-America or Africa or what-....they are just KILLER XD
respect to all the pilots who manage save take offs an landings every day
unsereoma 9 months ago
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i hope you find your dad
chris4071000 9 months ago
what happen to your dad
chris4071000 9 months ago
when i think of amazing i think of a plane shooting up in the air or almost crashing this is not amazing at all
chris4071000 9 months ago
Flaps up during roll decreases drag so you accelerate faster. Timing and knowing your aircraft is crucial. I've flow on military airlifters and there are many procedures not performed in "normal" flying to get in and out of tight spots.
Bigfoot1955 9 months ago 29
@Bigfoot1955 Speed is not the objective in C-182 soft field departure. The drag you speak of is actually the lift you need to get out of that quickly. Full power, flaps set, yoke full back to get the fragile nose wheel off the ground. Or a combination of soft and short field procedures.
cmi2000 7 months ago
Et en regardant encore cette video, il fo signaler que la fin de la piste n'avantage pas du tout le decollage, et des que l'avion a decolle, il vire a gauche tres timidement presque au vitesse de decrochage, et meme l'avion a pique legerement etle pilote a su garder un leger cabre, pour gagner de la vitesse et la je trouve qu'il tt de meme du merite!
prisma551 9 months ago
c'est sur que s'il y avait un petit cran de volet avant le décollage, l'avion aurait vite décollé et non attendre la fin de la piste et decoller timidement! pas de rancune!
prisma551 9 months ago
I'd check in the trees between the two villages, based on his takeoff...
TPPERAU 9 months ago
If he typically flew like this, I'd look in the trees between the two villages.
TPPERAU 9 months ago
wow... amazing flying. So sorry to hear that he is missing. Keep faith and know that, if the worst did happen, it was for a righteous cause. God bless and good luck.
sentineloffreedom 9 months ago
he dropped 10 flaps on the roll, it was supposed to be before..
diazgrajoauin 9 months ago
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So what is so amazing about this take off?. This pilot is totally not experienced. He is a typical pilot that causes PILOT ERRORS. Notice at the initial roll, his flaps are up. That tells me he did not do a pre-take off check. In our flying club, a girl who took a Cessna 172 up crashed in some houses down the runway because she failed to lower her flaps.
itsmonti1 10 months ago
@itsmonti1: Then your flying club isn't teaching good flying. You should be able to fly a 172 without flaps easily. The girl that crashed in your club did not crash because she didn't have flaps in. On most runways over 2k' I don't even use flaps. They're not needed. In gusty conditions most of the time I don't even land with flaps either, or at most 10 degrees.
Look at all the short takeoff bush flying...flaps are lowered near rotation speed. It's how it's done.
bgiesbrecht101 9 months ago
@itsmonti1 wow you clearly dont know the difference between flying in your little club and bush flying! in the us its so easy to land most cessna's without even touching your flaps... do it all the time! bush flying you use your flaps to get an additional yank off the ground... if you understood how to fly you would know this but i guess you only know how to fly not the concept of how airplanes work. i always tell people that there are people who fly and people who know how to fly...
enorton25 9 months ago 108
@enorton25 I used to fly a cessna 206 in the Mosquitia, Honduras. Sometimes I had to use full flaps for take off on soggy fields. You start your take off run with flaps 0 in order to minimize drag at the beginnig of the take off run, and upon reaching 50 kts, you set full flaps in order to maximize lift, rotate, levell off immediately , accelerate, and retract flaps slowly.
abdalabinladen 9 months ago 3
@enorton25 Exactly!!! I was a flight instructor for about 15 years. I always told people that there were 3 types of aviators; pilots, flyers, and airplane drivers. Pilots are the pros that know the numbers and know the airplane. Flyers know the airplane and use their experience to adjust for the situation making the flight as safe and efficient as possible. Airplane drivers depend on the checklist to help them keep up with the airplane. They all use check lists, but drivers 'need' them.
stiltmeister 8 months ago
@enorton25 flaps just add a little lift by increasing surface area of the wing... nothing wrong with being used during takeoff. Flaps are like a painkiller.... a little is ok, too much can cause problems
Kopihucky 6 months ago
i must also point out, that plane was way over loaded and barely able to fly
Kopihucky 6 months ago
@enorton25 For sure, it's a great take off!!! Be proud of your dad and follow his steps!!! He's doing an amazing job by flying for a non profit organization and helping people!!
machadojr 4 months ago
@itsmonti1 You are full of shit. Keep your pie hole shut and go back to your computer games or I'll tell your mommy your watching adult video's.
klesmer 9 months ago
@klesmer You must be on the rag making such negative comments. Don't you have a life or anything better and positive to say? I hate to be around you with such a pathetic, pessimistic, attitude. you must be a pretty angry person. Get a job and eat a salad!
itsmonti1 9 months ago
@itsmonti1I would tell you to fuck yourself but one has to have a penis before that's possible. I just get sick of armchair experts commenting on subjects they no nothing about. I have had more of a life than you could ever hope to and you are correct, you would not like to be around me one little bit, I don't suffer fools at all. So crawl back under mommies skirt.