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  • It takes 4.4 seconds from shot sound till hit sound. 1000 yards = 914.4 meters, speed of sound is 340.29 m/s so it already takes 914.4/340.29=2.69 seconds for the sound of the bullet hitting the target to return. leaving 4.4-2.69=1.7 seconds for the bullet to travel those 914.4 meters. So the bullet is traveling at 914.4/1.7= 533.8 m/s *3.6= 1921.8 km/h /1.609= 1194 miles per hour. The bullet should approximately be traveling at that speed I'd say :-)

  • Nice!

  • yeah it sounded like he was shooting subsonic loads if that was a thousand yards figure sound travels at right around 1,100 feet per second id say his loads where around 1,050 to 1,070 fps just a guess

  • If it actually took 4.5 seconds to hit a 1000 yard target...that would be 666.666666 feet per second :O

  • @Noobpatty Yeah 3 seconds is the time for the sound to get back to the camera, so you're looking at around a 1 second flight time for the projectile giving you between 2.500 - 3000ft/s average velocity, which is about right for a rifle calibre.

  • @Noobpatty Should take almost 2 seconds to hit the target.

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  • Nice job thanks

  • Hey mate, top shooting.

    What twist rate is your Bartlein Barrel?

  • Amazing. Get a great gun like the GAP and a great shooter together like LL and you can hit targets at 1,000 yds with a tiny little 18 inch barrel. That is way cool.

  • Cal and Can?

  • whats ur scope

  • Nice shooting!

  • have a question if you can help I want to buy a remm 700 and what do I need to do to make it atleast comfortable at 600 yards is it the rifle set up or is it the scope like consistdent shots at 600 yards thanks

  • GREAT SHOOTING! where do ya get your targets?

  • What was the load?

  • Great shooting brother

  • Excellent shooting! Wish I had access to a 1K range

  • i like that comical ping 3 or 4 seconds later :)

  • Inspires me to get that 20" barrel boltaction rifle in .308 caliber(most precision/sniper style rifle barrels are 22"-26" in lengh).

    There is a rifle that has 17 inch "assaultrifle" lengh and that is the old West German design,"G-3",and fires the full-power 7.62mmx51 Nato(aka .308).

  • That's some insane shooting. I didn't know you could get that kind of accuracy out of a suppressed rifle with that short of a barrel.

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  • @pveg65 Dude, tracers are not match bullets... you think you can pull off that kind of accuracy with a tracer... you must not understand ballistics too well.

    If I wanted to waste shots - I would shoot surplus junk, and not match loads.

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  • @pveg65 tracers are shit...they are for mall ninjas, and jerk offs at gun shows...they have no use in real [recision shooting at all

  • @SHLowlight You should do it just cause it'll look really cool ;)

    Awesome shooting.

  • @SHLowlight You buy factory match or do you load your own?

  • @SHLowlight untangle ur panties. dudes just givin u a suggestion.

  • @SHLowlight shooting corbon?

  • @pveg65 If you look at the last shot on the smaller target you can see the hit after about only 2 seconds. The rest of the time it takes to hear the shot is the sound traveling back. And I agree with you that being able to see the bullet in flight is cool. On certain days, when the conditions are right you can see a vapor trail.

  • @pveg65 Most of that "5 seconds" was the sound of the hit traveling from the target to the shooter. Not the bullet traveling to the target...Just sayin'

  • @pveg65 You don't want to run tracers through a barrel like that,they'll eat it up,it was all fine and dandy when I ran tracers through GPMGs and M-16s when I worked for uncle Sam,they were free to shoot,but even with mil spec chrome-lined barrels,tracers still take their toll and you've got to stay on top and give those barrels extra attention after running tracers,SHLowlight is also right about tracer ballistics,I don't even run ball through mine,google proper barrel break-in

  • @OakIslandBandit

    What a nice and helpful answer this is for somebody (@pveg65) who probably doesn't actually know much about match grade ammunition, ballistics and barrel wear. Too bad SHLowlight had to go off like some kind of socially maladjusted prima donna douchebag in his response.

    While SHLowlight is a much better marksman than I may ever be, he's not enough better than lots of other great marksmen to be such a self-absorbed and churlish cunt.

  • @pveg65 Flighttime isn´t five seconds... the long time until you hear the target ring is due to the slow speed of sound travelling back to you.

  • This is true shorter barrels don’t have as much play from the shooter moving around. For example if you have a 26 inch barrel you are increasing the sensitivity for how you need to hold. The bipod becomes further and further back and acts as a balance point. The closer the bi- pod to the end of the barrel the more stability you have. to bad you cant mount a bi- pod to the berrel without affecting the free-floating job.

  • do some milk jugs

  • fkn sick! K Factor trick thats for sure! :) nice longshots ! i could never do that the first shot, i'd have to go through 60 bullets or more until i'd do it right! lol

  • Very nice.

  • psshheeeeeeeeoooooooooooooooo --- *ping*

    that's awesome lol

    

  • Damn nice shooting!

  • i have a 18" barrel on a 22-250 and hit 1000yds 1/2" moas all day brother! but you cannot tell these internet experts nothing

  • sounded like the bullet went subsonic before impact?

  • Great video!!!! I know for a fact that it is possible to shoot a 1000 yards because someone i know has a reminton 700 with 18 inch barrel and we would shoot often at long ranges.

  • Heya SHLow,

    Nice shooting!

    I followed this link from the "Rifle Dynamics" face book message /"Guerrilla Sniper Rifle"/Nevada Shooter's fourm,does George build for Rifle Dynamics?

    What kind of platform did you start out with,and if you don't mind me asking,what was your cost?

    Optics,USOptics?

  • @OakIslandBandit I don't know anything about Rifle Dynamics or whether or not GAP builds anything for them ? I didn't even know they linked this video, which is fine...

    The scope is a NF F1 3-15X - the rifle was a simple Remington PSS when it started.

    The Gladius is available from GAP I believe they cost a bit over $3k

  • @OakIslandBandit , that a gs precision "gladius" rifle with a night force scope. surefire suppressor. google it.

  • That's a great rifle with a great shooter. Just calling it like it is. Hate to be trucking across a field with this cat shooting at me.

  • One more thing. Lowlight makes this look easy. The GAP rifle is roughly 4k plus another 1500 or so in glass, plus this guy gets to shoot all day for a living. Reaching out to 1000 yards plus with a .308 and an 18" barrel is not an easy feat, but doable wiith the right equipment, and most important the right shooter. I will be anxiously awaiting the 2010 SH build. I am saving my pennies for whatever SH and George come up with. LL, any timeframe when the 2010 will be announced?

  • I cannot believe the responses from people who are questioning the stated range. This is one of the most recognized ranges in North America. SF Operators, Gov Agencies, and the private sector come here for training and Lowlight's reputation precedes him in the long range community for his outstanding commitment to bring valuable info to a COMMUNITY of long range enthusiasts. The saddest part is the ignorance of physics and basic math, (est. time of impact + sound waves being transmitted back.

  • Holy cow, I don't even think I'd be able to hold on a target at 1000 yds, much less hit it.

    Excellent!!!!

  • TFRE3927: I love my 700 LTR if you haven't tried the Fedearl 168gr Sierra match kings in it you are missing out. My rifle prints .1-.25 moa consistenly with these loads.

  • Sir, you are my hero. What kind of scope do you use? Is this a 308 rifle?

  • @adolfhilter

    Nightforce scope and yes 308.

  • @mustang071

    True, but isn't it more fun when the target gets hit with more energy?

  • I've shot this range, off THIS platform. and yes it's 1000 yards, and the guy behind the rifle KNOWS what he's doing. it is the best range I've ever shot on and still can't believe Jacob let us shoot for free.

  • awsome shooting man...18" barrel isint easy but you make it look like it is..

  • man I would love to have that rile about how much would something like that cost?

  • Good shooting!

    I get those people saying my shots aren't the distance I claim they are, and my shots aren't very far at all.

    Isn't it odd how they can't do any math or even time the shots to come to these conclusions? It is just "a feeling" they have or "it doesn't look like it."

    That they are not embarrassed for coming to these conclusions with zero data to support them, is a testament to their lack of knowledge of the subject.

    And again, great shooting!

  • if i fix my scope on 30 yards will it shoot the same on 100-200 yards or do i have to fix the zeroing on 100 yards again someone please help me and let me know if i fix the zeroing on 30 yards if it will shoot the same on 100-200 yards thanks

  • @joealonso89 If you figure out the arch of the bullet you can zero your rifle at a shorter distance. For example, you can zero a M16 A2 at 30 yards and it will be accurate for 300 yards.

  • @TheMisfit621

    Don't forget optic height is a major part there, at 30 yards the bullet hasn't risen its highest yet, I know I sighted a rifle at 50 yards to get a grouping after just putting a new scope on it and backing out to 100 yards it was hitting high.

  • @dunzerkug I know. That why I used the M16 A2 as an example but its different for all rifle types and calibers.

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  • What ammo are you using?

  • lmao that was funny

  • fuck them...and fuck you...just for bein so good!?

  • seriously dude i see how the truth hurts you.and i'm sorry lol. besides i did not all together say that you didn't ,i only questioned it.you should wipe the tears and read what i wrote just one more time .you might not like it but... "its just my opinion"

  • @mossbones1

    Ah, a professional troll. Thanks, at least I'll know not to waste my time replying to you.

  • You guys who keep trying to say it's not a 1000 yards are pretty funny... especially the guy who shot 1000 yards 100x in the military but doesn't know about time of flight or that this range is internationally known and a regular stop for many in the military. it would be pretty stupid to lie about it.

    But keep guessing because it makes me laugh... and I appreciate good humor.

  • @SHLowlight He mate, sweet vid - you're making me feel really good about getting a LTR with a 20" barrel. Goes to show the crap that can be spinned by theories of other ppl comparing sizes of their.. barrels.

    I tried to find info in the posts if this is a 3.5-15 or 5.5-15 NXS - which one? I'm thinking of putting a 3.5-15x56mm on the LTR so just wanted to know what you're using. I know military use 10x to shoot that far but you looked very comfortable with that scope.

    Cheers from Australia :)

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  • @tfre3927 The scope is the Nightforce F1 (FFP) 3-15X 50 Mil / MLR

  • @SHLowlight Wait till you get the Call of Duty video game ppl telling you how to do your job lol! Goddamn nice shooting!

  • There's no doubt in my mind that's 1000 yards, I wouldn't doubt if it was even further! Anyhow good shooting my friend, especially with an 18" barrel! nice rifle too ;)

    Braxton

  • 1000 yards ?eh im not sure about that ,doesnt look like it,ive shot out to 1000 yards 100 times or more in the service and just by experiance it was a hell of alot further looking than that.you can do anything with the computer now a days as far as making you look and sound like your the man.now im not saying he didnt.its just that as many times ive had to do it, it just doesnt look like it,sorry,just my opinion

  • @mossbones1

    You obviously don't know what 1000 yards looks like. The range he filmed this at is shown in other youtube videos as well, look up the episode of "tactical impact" with Larry Vickers on 338 lapua magnum rifles. They shoot from the same tower, at the same berm and state it is 1000 yards.

  • @mossbones1 ...vvhat military vvas that smarty pants...PEOPLES ARMY OF DUMBFUCKISTAN!

  • if you dont think this is a 1000 yard shot, you are an idiot and need to go back to xbox live

    Sound delay is the give away. 1000 yard shot for sure.

  • is that a nightforce 3.5-15 or 5.5- 22 power? is that you in the byers range video? are you a member at crci? if so im in the process of becoming a member and your profile says your and instructor, private lesson? because i would be very intrested.

  • How much are you having to come up for that, what is the twist-rate and load?

  • Man forget the gun. I wish I had a backyard range like that!

  • @pankake2301 You and me both. Nice shooting SHLowlight. What state are you in if you dont mind me asking.

  • Ya, to the untrained, I can see where it might not appear to be a 1000 yards.... but believe me, it is.

    Sound is a dead give away, the delay in the sound. Remember the video is zoomed in, so that makes it appear closer than it really is.

    finally, its a training facility visited by many a month, if I was making it up, some one would know and have already commented.

  • SH is a Beast if you are not familiar with Sniper's Hide its probably a good time to go back to plinking with the .22

  • Yeah I see what you mean bro! At first I was thinking 500yds. But the sound is a dead give away. Plus its pretty flat out there. Looks like west Texas Iv seen things at afar in west tx and went to walk towards them to find out it was a lot farther away then I first thought just looking. Sweet rifle man!

  • @SHLowlight sorry, sorry 3.5-15x or 5.5-22x

  • that doesn't look like a 1000 yards

  • An inspiration for an AR carbine guy to get a bolt gun. One of my new favorite videos.

  • i heard it nice one dude

  • not exactally my fav round but nice shooting man (no disrespect)

  • Great stuff Frank ~ nice shootin'. I enjoy all your vids.

  • you cant shoot an 18" barrel at 1100 yards

  • nice shooting bro. i was curious as to if the yardage was infact 1000 so did some calcs. 4sec shot to clank. sound is 375 yards/ sec gives 2.6 sec @ 1000 yds + given ur muzzle velocity on other comments 858.3 yards per sec gives 1.4 sec of flight time. right on man.

  • Man if this rifle is at Rifles Only when I go there... I may see about renting it for the class. Always a pleasure watching your vids Frank.

  • Do you know what kind of muzzle velocity you're getting with that rifle/load?

  • 2575fps with that lot of Cor Bon 175gr, I have gotten as much as 2605fps with factory 175gr ammo. I can get more if I use 170gr HPS from Lapua, and you can get more with a 155gr load. Anyway you slice it, from 2575fps up...

  • Netstepb,

    Get a savage, Its a good Platform.. Its more skill than too. There is a guy on youtube shooting a $90.00 rifle (mosin Nagant PU) at 900 yards. Brand loyalties only go so far.

  • I was thinking about getting the savage 10 but now that I have seen this vid, I would like to see a heads up against the two. Do it if you can. Great video!!

  • @netstepb you're kidding right ? Nothing wrong with starting out with a Savage, but this is $3000 custom rifle which just happens to be built on a Remington action. The Savage doesn't come close. I have a tricked out Savage, about $2500 worth in it. It started out as a 10FP but is not a custom 6BR, still tactical looking but not tactical at all. its good because it is has a good barrel, but it all ends there.

  • Why do people think an 18 inch barrel cannot perform? As long as the round has stability I don't think the length means much... Perhaps lamer barrels need longer lengths for imperfections in grooving?

    I'm guessing here, mind telling me what the hell they are saying? Probably the same crew that think contrails put out by jets are mind control...

  • not mind control, weather modification and NASA call them Aerosols, they consist of aluminum oxide and barium salts and sometimes So2. NASA has been experimenting on controlling the green house effect due to "so called Co2"

  • No, there are people who think that contrails have thought control agents in them, to make the public less agitated. I wish I was joking, but I had to hear some nut ball explain it to me.

    As a pilot, I thought it was pure gold, I told him you got us, we put 1 cup of Thought Control Agent 4 in per 1,000 pounds of fuel, but you didn't hear it from me.

  • never heard that one...funny, but the only thing really harmed by barium salt is the honey bees. this chemical harms the insects immune system. I am a bee keeper and make it my business to know the effects chems have on honey bee husbandry. the major threat to bee's is pollen from GMO corn. GMO BT corn kills the hives next to fields that have this planted.

    but mind control that sound like BS, so i agree. mind control is done by media like CNN, ABC, MSNBC and CBS not chem's.

  • @Jethro212 I think the longer the barrel the higher the muzzle velocity so the bullet stays supersonic longer and can reach longer distances. I'm not sure if it really helps accuracy all that much when you start getting that long, but I could be mistaken.

  • what was your moa adjustment for that range, and what do you keep your precision rifle sigthed in at?

  • the rifle is zeroed at 100 yards, and I use MILS not MOA. I used about 12 Mils which if you X 3.43 gives you about 41 MOA to 1000 yards.

    Apparently a large number of Youtube viewers don't understand the concept of using Mils instead of MOA.

  • Ya, Ive used both mils and MOA. Matters on what your used to and what your scope reticle(for me PSOP/Nightforce mildot) is. Great shooting anyways, I've seen an 18 inch HK91(PTR 91) shooting 900 yards with a 12 inch goruping, people do underestimate 18 inch barrels.

  • That was so cool. Thanks for that and what a great rifle. Igigled every time it rang the bell. So fuckin cool thanks

  • u should get some exploding targets so u can also see that u hit it

  • Not going to say anything about the Surefire?

  • what is the round? does not look like a 308/ is it a 6.5?

  • It is a 308, not a 6.5... I was shooting a 175gr SMK load from Cor Bon. Their Sniper's Hide Load.

  • Great shooting. I am duly impressed.

  • wow bullet travel was forever... 18" really decreases velociy

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  • It takes something like 1.6-1.8 seconds for the bullet to reach the target. A longer barrel will increase the muzzle velocity somewhat but it will only decrease the bullet flight time by a fraction of a second.

    Regardless of the velocity of the bullet it takes about 2.7 seconds for the sound to travel back, to the microphone, from the target after the bullet strikes the target.

  • is it legal to have this gun?

  • why wouldnt it be?

  • f off

  • WTF?

  • sorry friend it was to the people askn why rifles like that are legal .

  • its koo i wish 50.cal are legal

  • Sure that sounds good, but I shot this at Rifles Only in Kingsville TX, elevation on the tower, 78ft above sea level.

  • Lowlight, I read in your profile you're in Denver or thereabouts correct?  The elevation would definately help out getting out there , but regardless, I knew that a 18" would get there. BTW, I wish that I had a range here in MO that I could get to shoot steel out to 1K yards.

  • I stand corrected.

  • agreed, MO has no long distance ranges. hell if you find one, let me know

  • Just 1 MOA above the target? What kind base is your scope sitting on, and what was your elevation zeroed for?

  • I have no clue what you are saying about 1 MOA ? One MOA where, I'm not using any MOA, I shoot with Mils, I used 12 Mils to hit that target and I used 1 Mil of Wind, which I held, not dialed. (When I said a tick over center, I dont mean holding hight I held a bit more like 1.2 mils) Its a standard based with a standard scope zeroed at 100 yards

  • MOA=Minutes Of Angle. By Mils I'm assuming you're refering to your scope's reticle (Mil Dot or TMR?) How're are you shooting 1000 yards without dialing in for that range?

  • I know what an MOA is, but i am not using MOA, my scope adjusts in Mils, the same as my Reticle. I don't use MOA as mils are easier. I am dialed, I have 12 Mils dialed in for elevation, and I held 1 - 1.2 Mils in the reticle. My scope turrets and my reticle match 100% so I can use either just as effectively.

  • So you adjusted your dials for 12 mils, and ALSO held 1 mil above in the reticle?

  • No, 1 mil was Windage, the 12 Mils was elevation. I dialed on my elevation, and held my windage.

    I didn't hold any elevation, it was point of aim / point of impact for that, the windage is where I held the reticle.

  • Gotcha, well good shooting!

  • Irrefutable proof of firearms performance will not make you any friends at gun shops or gun shows man.

  • What contour barrel it is ??

  • For me it's just an easy way to do it, in my opinion it has no bearing on accuracy or shooting methods, it's just something we do. Now someone else may have a superstition on why they single load, but I just figure its simple and easy. I may load a magazine up, then single load after it just all depends on the situation. I always load the magazine when shooting multiple targets, or moving targets, but doing something slow fire it doesn't matter much.

  • I noticed in a lot of videos where people are shooting for long range accuracy they single feed the rounds by hand. Why is that?

  • Man great shooting! Seems like it took a bit to get the round to the target what was surprising to me.

  • Factory - the boxes are sitting right there in the video.

    Cor Bon or Black Hills, in this video I am using the Cor Bon Sniper's Hide Version which is just a 175gr SMK Load.

  • Which ammo you use , factory or handloads ??

  • impressive. Nice shooting

  • It depends what ammo I shoot, but figure about 50fps less than a 24" or 26" barrel regardless. not much difference at all.

    I shoot different stuff all the time, anything from 2600fps to 2800fps if I use the HPS ammo from Lapua.

    On this day the Cor Bon load I was using goes about 2605fps.

  • What speed do U get out of that barrel with your ammo?

  • I know John Tacke from Bartlien barrels. He was my neighbor when I used to live in Wisconsin. Just a great great guy. He probably cut this barrel.

  • No that is a 14" X 8.75" piece of steel, NOT 18... 8

  • 14" by 18 3/4" steel @ 1000.

    Impressive.

  • 308

  • What caliber?

  • Excellent shooting. Great shot on the small target

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