the only good players we got on the wizards are chris better than the average rookie singleton, jan who can dunk and everything else vesely, and john the good point guard wall
compare their rookie stats. that sounds fair. also derrick rose had a better supporting cast then john wall did last season. give john wall time and a supporting cast and he will be the best pg in the league.
@TheStaticKling Could have made that clear. And yeah. Wall has a higher assist count then Rose. However, Rose is a scoring point guard. Wall's APG is 8.2 while Rose's APG is 6.7. However you can't get assits while your scoring. Rose has 20.8 PPG , Wall has 16.4. Can't really dish out assists when you are scoring right?
@Agraffyx yeah sorry, but it's suprising that he has 8 assists and nobody is a major scorer on the wiz. lol except for nick young, but he got injured.
@Agraffyx i don't think that's a good enough excuse because lebron averaged about 30 points per game and 8 assists in cleveland. it is just all about getting your players involved. drose is still better than wall though
there are Both similar in regards to their Ceiling and both have similar Skill sets but they both have differences in their games. Rose is more of a scorer and is asked to do so. Wall is more of a Pure PG and is a better defender on the ball. Wall reminds me of a bigger stronger, quicker, more athletic rondo, who doesn't have a broken Jumpshot. Rose has a lot of AI in him. if Wall had more talent around him people would see just how good he is. With that said Rose is better as of right now.
@mattbobo610 dude idk what stats you were looking at but 16.4 ppg is no where close to 25ppg haha not to mention Rose averaged 19.7 ppg his rookie season so you obviously have no idea what your talking about.
Wall was a rookie and it was his 1st season in the NBA and he's already averaging as much a Derrick rose yu better watch out for him this season the wizards are making a crazy comeback just wait and see
When John wall wins the MVP, leads his team to a league best record, and takes his team to the playoffs (let alone the Eastern Conference finals) come talk to me. Its not even a contest at this point.
@jayyyraddd12 i agree drose is better, but with a much better team. john wall has no one to stand behind him drose has people that will help him to get the best record, and go to the conference finals. i think john wall will eventually be one of the best players in the nba.
you retard think that wall is a noob, well,, how can you say rose got many shoots than wall while your not posting wall's highlights that game.. your a bulls fan that your face is like a bull either.
By comparing the two guards RIGHT NOW rose is obviously the better player only due to the fact wall just completed his rookie campaign. However, this is where observation and analysis begins.. Rose is just barely scratching the surface of his potential and everyone who's been keeping up with rose knows just what he is capable of; 25ppg with 8 apg which is considered very good and even have the potential to do 30 10 depending on the workload but I highly doubt he'll reach that at any given time
rose is definitely better as of right now but john wall has more potential..for one thing he's taller than rose, he's the same height as WADE! john wall dished out more assist than rose in their rookie seasons..john wall is more of a true point guard and derrick rose is a power point guard, derrick rose is basically a small forward trapped in a point guard body
@beastieboy1998 exactly ! he needs better pieces but the wizards are gonna be a playoff team when they get jared sullinger, andre drummond or harrison barnes
@ChillyCloth Bill Russel wasn't always the best player on the team. If you're the best player on your team and your team is winning that usually means you're a better player than a dude who's losing.
for instance Kevin Love has better stats than Dirk Nowitski but Dirk is the better player.
Well, I don't know which one is right to compare players! Michael Jordan and several NBA Legends, their way to compare players is by Player's Skill NOT Player's Stats. But other NBA Analyst comparing them in Stats,
Its all in the jersey numbers if you ask me. Rose is #1 and as long is Rose is around Wall will have to "AT LEAST" be second to best, mind you I said AT LEAST
i think its the rate at which Derrick Rose improved in his 3 short years in the league that gives him an advantage over Wall. 2nd year all-star, youngest MVP ever, not many superstars can say they've accomplished what Rose has. His work ethic is a direct correlation to what you see on TV. Of course we haven't gotten to see what Wall will do in his next two years in the league
Meh what a coincidence, the teams jordan signed with both have 1st pick PGs who have similar rookie stats and athlethic playstyles, the future looks good indeed.
Drose is better as of right now....John Wall is only or was a rookie. But give Wall a year or two he'll be up there with the allstars. If is wasn't for Blake Griffin, Wall of of hands down won rookie of the year.
@SgtKgosi thats a total misconception...they are more opposite of each other than similar in terms of how they play and demeanor. They are uber athletic offensive minded guards...and the comparisons end there.
Those who support John Wall continue supporting him. Those who support Rose, do the same too. Stop comparing them cause they're special in their own ways.
@c0ldindark Agreed....but honestly both fanbases will hate each other...just the nature of the beast...the rivalry should be a close one, (and the rivalry is probably more fan/media made than actual)
fun facts:Wall has missed more games in his rookie season than rose has in his entire career. Health and Longevity matter in this league, just ask Tmac.
Rose is one of the few players that played at a constant rate in his rookie year, he never hit the proverbial 'rookie wall'. John Wall did.
Rose was coached by VINNY DEL NEGRO, who is one of the worst coaches in the NBA. Wall was coached by Flip Saunders, one of the more accomplished coaches.
@DeadRashi neither of those guys can create their own shot. The closest is deng, and his idea of creating a shot is bumbling towards the rim with his head down. Rose is the center of the bulls offense for every reason. he has tocreate for others while also understanding hes the best bet to score, he has to set them up so that they can allow him some room to score...its like a mind puzzle. The bulls roster is the exact opposite of the wizards roster. The bulls roster dominate the little things
@305Southbeach Nick Young-A sg with good size, and a terrific stroke especially from midrange. He can also handle the ball well and create his own shot. Rashard Lewis-A perpetual mismatch, he has the size and strength to post up on normal sfs and the ability to shoot the ball and stretch out the defense, can also take big men off the dribble. Andray Blatche- a pf who thinks hes a guard. Has unusual quickness and handles as well as a decent midrange shot, but still the size and strength of a pf.
Javale McGee, aside from dwight howard, easily the most athletic center in the nba. Has good hands as well, if hes near the rim,hes dunking the ball. Also possess good handles for a center. Thats just your starting 5, you also have yi jian lian a chinese pf/sf tweener who has length and ability to shoot and put the ball onthe floor. You have jordan crawford a guy with hops handles and no shooting conscious. You have josh howard, a 6'7 forward known for his two way game
@305Southbeach continued All these players are, if nothing else, good offensive players. The problem with the wizards isnt the ability to score, its the ability to play all around basketball. Too many guys who want to settle for their first jumper or the first thing the defense gives them. Too many players who dont want to do the little things. Its the exact opposite for rose. He plays with guys who revel in the little things, but individually are pretty sucky on offense.
john wall will eventually surpass derrick rose, he just needs better teammates..dont get me wrong, rose is a beast but john has more potential..compare their rookie stats: john wall average 16 pts, 8 assist and 5 rebounds while d rose avg 17 pts, 6 assist and 4 rebounds..
derrick rose is a small forward trapped in a point guards body, while john wall is a true pg..he can pass like rondo, and score like rose
if they switched teams i could def see d. rose averaging over 30 ppg being the only realy offensive threat the wizards would have. but john wall would prolly avg. 11-12 assists per gaame with all the talent the bulls have, theyre both great but different styles of point guard. anyway i cant wait to watch these guys play together in many all star games to come in the near future!
Rose is better than Wall right now but lets not forget Rose is older and more experienced and Wall is just a rookie so lets compare their rookie stats.
@305Southbeach the thing is rose was doing that on a playoff team if rose had the team john wall has his stats probably be more up than wall and they probably will a have little more wins but thats just my opinon
@305Southbeach no the reason why we put there is this video is because everybody was saying Wall would come into the league and be better than Derrick right off the bat. Give wall a year or two and he will be as good as Rose 2010 2011 season. Derrick will be even better and i would bet money have a ring.
@imnottconcidedxp the bulls sucked back then and he led his team to the playoffs idk if your able to win games makes you better to me, I mean that is why you play.
@305Southbeach rookie stats really dont mean anything. kobe didnt have really good rookie stats. and he is arguably the best player to play the game. their are alot of players who just flop after good couple years. so you never know. WAIT TIll BOTH WALL AND ROSE CAREERS ARE ALL DONE TO COMPARE, then you can see which one is better
Not to mention Rose actually helped his team get to the playoffs his rookie year after a year of missing the playoffs and tied the rookie record for most points scored in a rookie debut in the playoffs while dishing out 11 assist and going 12-12 FT, The other person who holds the record is none other than Kareem abul- jabaar. Advantage Rose
I love rose, but you cant even compare the team he had his rookie year to wall's team this year......that team was full of vets that had playoff experience while Wall's team was just a bunch of 2-4 year players, and rashard lewis............I bet if wall had that same team, he would have had the same 41-41 record or better.
@vtechhokies89 come on dude, they had missed the playoffs before rose got there, and they were not as old as you make them out to be, the wizards have had veterans as well, and plus thier talent isnt as bad as you makee it. they made just as many move as the wizards and dont forget luol was injured majority of the year and kirk was injured a lot so it is not like that bulls team was all good. noah was not the player he is today as well and the bulls had many different starting line-ups too.
@kbotpop the wizards have decent players they just don't have any chemistry. I've watched them play they're just a bunch of talented players shooting horrible shots.
@thety5489 I don't agree, Rose was picked by a REALLY good team, the bulls, and john wall was picked by wizards, if you would've given wall a good team, he wouldve prolly led the team to the playoffs to, so rose really has no advantage, either way both are great
@dnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz A really good team that missed the playoffs the year before, with little to no injuries, and a really good team that made about three different trade his rookie. A really good team that only has two players remaining from his rookie year.
@thety5489 ha plz look at the numbers first off to getting to the play off takes a good team not a good player rose had a way better team than wall in his rookie year. John wall i my mind had a better rookie year. Look at some of the numbers he was puting up 8STL in 1 game 18 Ast in 1 game 4Blks in 1 game he had more than 1 30+ games to. Forget all that playoff talk Wall will get there
@AnimeCraze0 so totally disregard winning? o.k, it is more impressive to put up numbers on a winning team. they made plenty of trades that season, that is not the tell of a good team. I can show advanced stats as well, that Rose had the better season. He was higher in Per, Eff, Win share, true shooting %. Wall shot horrible, so his scoring is not impressive at all. I give him credit on the steal, but his actual defense was just as horrible as Roses rookie year.
@thety5489 Wat your saying really makes no sense. The number says it all you have to get of Derick roses dick and look at it from a fear point of veiw
@AnimeCraze0 shut up fag, talking about other mens dicks. if you cant understand what I said, that is your fault and you need to learn how to comprehend and spell.
@thety5489 Derrick Rose N1 John Wall N2 both have quickness, hoop, and pull up (Rose is better) but I think Wall has alot of potenicial but he is 21 and I think if he gets to a team with all star or an allstar goes to them He can beone of the best
the only good players we got on the wizards are chris better than the average rookie singleton, jan who can dunk and everything else vesely, and john the good point guard wall
TheCaptainawesome21 8 hours ago
like their numbers....rose is 1 and john is 2
LYNLAIBABY911 5 days ago
This is no contest drose is way better
2flyy9900 2 weeks ago
john wall has long way to go drose close to a ring
MrWatchmen759 2 weeks ago
Can drose DOUGIE? i donn think soooo
HandsforOllies 4 weeks ago
song name plz
ZombieQkilla23 1 month ago
@kevk87 his J was actually better last year. Idk what's wrong with him right now.
ADAJ3 1 month ago
I believe that team's have figured out john wall after his rookie year...make him take jump shots
kevk87 1 month ago
Wall vs wade is definitely a good match up too bad it didn't happen tonighy
gottgaame 1 month ago
what the name of this beat?
eastside2202 1 month ago
d rose; best point guard in the nba
527199 1 month ago
compare their rookie stats. that sounds fair. also derrick rose had a better supporting cast then john wall did last season. give john wall time and a supporting cast and he will be the best pg in the league.
weezybaby1231 1 month ago
the song is annoying as hell
93mherrera 1 month ago
JOHN WALL DRIVE TO D.ROSE AND DUNK WHERE IS THAT PART??? I CANT SEE IT IN THIS VIDEO.
ramonmon1000 1 month ago
о блин, а чо одни буржуйские коменты, НАШИ ГДЕ???? Факин американы
sharmach1 1 month ago
DERRICK ROSE IS THE TRUTH...JOHN WALL IS NO COMPARISON RIGHT NOW SON.
YOU SEE ROSE DUNKING ON MOFOS TWICE HIS SIZE WITH AUTHORITY...
ROSE IS THE SECOND COMING RIGHT BEHIND LEBRON...MIGHT EVEN BE AHEAD OF HIM...CAUSE HE DONT NEED A BIG 2! LMAO
snomelc920J 1 month ago
derrick rose is better than john wall
bubbamarkise 1 month ago
Wall<Rose/ plus Derrick Rose got the MVP of the year award, and he scored more points and got more assists that john wall.
cooleyvideos435 1 month ago
@cooleyvideos435 actually wall had more assists
TheStaticKling 1 month ago
@TheStaticKling Unless the video uploader is too retarded to read stats and gave the wrong number. The video description says wall has 6. Rose has 8.
Agraffyx 1 month ago
@Agraffyx Im talking bout averaging assists not just one game.
TheStaticKling 1 month ago
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Agraffyx 1 month ago
@TheStaticKling Could have made that clear. And yeah. Wall has a higher assist count then Rose. However, Rose is a scoring point guard. Wall's APG is 8.2 while Rose's APG is 6.7. However you can't get assits while your scoring. Rose has 20.8 PPG , Wall has 16.4. Can't really dish out assists when you are scoring right?
Agraffyx 1 month ago
@Agraffyx yeah sorry, but it's suprising that he has 8 assists and nobody is a major scorer on the wiz. lol except for nick young, but he got injured.
TheStaticKling 1 month ago
@TheStaticKling Yeah its good. I guess he keeps passing to all of his teammates then just focusing on a few? Hmm.
Agraffyx 1 month ago
@Agraffyx i don't think that's a good enough excuse because lebron averaged about 30 points per game and 8 assists in cleveland. it is just all about getting your players involved. drose is still better than wall though
manny24lal 1 month ago
@manny24lal I guess but still, even thou I hate to admit it. LeBron IS the better player overall.
Agraffyx 1 month ago
whos the mvp n let there jersey numbers speak d rose #1 john wall #2
Enerqeticz 2 months ago
Vote Wall ----->
CrazedAnime1 2 months ago
Vote Rose ----->
CrazedAnime1 2 months ago 26
for now we can say that but just watch as he progress's
TheCaptainawesome21 9 hours ago
wats the name to the music
28jmj 2 months ago
obviously whoever made this likes derrick rose cause he kept replaying derrick's stuff
TheSportsmaster10 2 months ago
Derrick Rose MVP enough said.
ryuhaya1 2 months ago
Wall is a better player. It is plan and simple. Derrick just has players to help him. Wall is the heart and soul of Washington.
codnubes94 2 months ago
0:25 are they running flex? haha that's the same offence my team runs! :)
crazyrockers 2 months ago
there are Both similar in regards to their Ceiling and both have similar Skill sets but they both have differences in their games. Rose is more of a scorer and is asked to do so. Wall is more of a Pure PG and is a better defender on the ball. Wall reminds me of a bigger stronger, quicker, more athletic rondo, who doesn't have a broken Jumpshot. Rose has a lot of AI in him. if Wall had more talent around him people would see just how good he is. With that said Rose is better as of right now.
Rhymefest123 2 months ago
This song is fucking awesome.
MyDrose01 2 months ago
@TheStaticKling
Rose and Wall are both young and both will without doubt get alot better..
gumbi696 2 months ago
rose is so much better than wall ..!! rose play with losers!
Chef88214 2 months ago
Wall isn't even close to being as good as rose!
celticsrondo920 2 months ago
john wall carries his whole team drose at least has some other great players like luol deng and boozer
ttrainfromhell 2 months ago
wuld love 2 c them play 1 on 1.
bballboy247 2 months ago
@mattbobo610 dude idk what stats you were looking at but 16.4 ppg is no where close to 25ppg haha not to mention Rose averaged 19.7 ppg his rookie season so you obviously have no idea what your talking about.
jayyyraddd12 2 months ago
Like the numbers say, Derrick Rose #1. John Wall #2. JUSS PLAYIN! I like both so much. Freakin' crazy dudes.
panicsugarcane 2 months ago
Wall was a rookie and it was his 1st season in the NBA and he's already averaging as much a Derrick rose yu better watch out for him this season the wizards are making a crazy comeback just wait and see
mattbobo610 2 months ago
Wats the song at the beginning the bulls song
TheAjpeezy 2 months ago
When John wall wins the MVP, leads his team to a league best record, and takes his team to the playoffs (let alone the Eastern Conference finals) come talk to me. Its not even a contest at this point.
Drose > Jwall
jayyyraddd12 2 months ago 13
@jayyyraddd12 i agree drose is better, but with a much better team. john wall has no one to stand behind him drose has people that will help him to get the best record, and go to the conference finals. i think john wall will eventually be one of the best players in the nba.
lilneitzel5 1 week ago
you switch the two and Rose still dominates with the Wiz, Wall is no joke but he's no Rose either...
acewolf75 2 months ago
whats the song
albertho5348 2 months ago 2
my two favorite point guards but d rose will always kill john wall
lilchicagofan1 2 months ago
ok here it is finally! just dont compare Rose to WADE! cuz wade is a better better player!
seraspi3 2 months ago
The best matchup
brishaulon757 2 months ago
I know derrick is better, but for this game wall had no support from his team watsover, unlike rose n the bulls
KarimMakesCream 2 months ago
Two of my fave PG's, but i rate d rose more.
Their jersey number speaks for it: ;)
#1 being 1st - D Rose
#2 being 2nd - J Wall
rinus1030 2 months ago
you retard think that wall is a noob, well,, how can you say rose got many shoots than wall while your not posting wall's highlights that game.. your a bulls fan that your face is like a bull either.
karlkobe24 3 months ago
song at the start ?
flarextcc2u 3 months ago
whats the beat called? its hella good
FireRed808 3 months ago
By comparing the two guards RIGHT NOW rose is obviously the better player only due to the fact wall just completed his rookie campaign. However, this is where observation and analysis begins.. Rose is just barely scratching the surface of his potential and everyone who's been keeping up with rose knows just what he is capable of; 25ppg with 8 apg which is considered very good and even have the potential to do 30 10 depending on the workload but I highly doubt he'll reach that at any given time
d4v1dso 3 months ago
Love the beats
Bsnakezs 3 months ago
DERRICK ROSE OR JOHN WALL LIKE IF YOU VOTE FOR DERRICK ROSE or DISLIKE IF YOU VOTE FOR JOHN WALL :D
POOH8376 3 months ago
song ?
dwyane3wade3flash 3 months ago
3:00 so sick!!!!!!!!!!!!
ACEKING26 3 months ago
ooooo.. wats the first song called, is it the bulls version of remember the name
kyleawin 3 months ago
honestly i reckon wall is just as good but also has more potential but hey thats my opinion
kawarulz 3 months ago
honestly i reckon wall is just as good but also has more potential
kawarulz 3 months ago
@kawarulz more potential than d rose? if youre comparing them now, you're comparing the mvp against the rookie of the year, big difference
Brad633 3 months ago
@Brad633 true but with some time i think wall can be truley great and d ose is great but far to over rated!
kawarulz 3 months ago
No question rose is better right now but give john a couple of years until wen managment can get talent
deG561 3 months ago
rose is definitely better as of right now but john wall has more potential..for one thing he's taller than rose, he's the same height as WADE! john wall dished out more assist than rose in their rookie seasons..john wall is more of a true point guard and derrick rose is a power point guard, derrick rose is basically a small forward trapped in a point guard body
GhostShadow860 3 months ago
Rose way better
sidekick10024 3 months ago
@sidekick10024 Of course John wall is 21 years ...
lightsw0rd 3 months ago
john wall has the potential to be better than rose. He just needs the right players
TheStaticKling 3 months ago 17
@TheStaticKling guards must know the potential of their team mates, and rose does.
ilongarar23 2 months ago
@ilongarar23 well wall needs an all star to play with him. Luckily we'll get a superstar in the 2012 draft
TheStaticKling 2 months ago
@TheStaticKling Rose Is way better
GamingStars1 2 months ago
@GamingStars1 no shit rose is better i said john wall HAS the POTENTIAL smart one.
TheStaticKling 2 months ago
@TheStaticKling Rose has what John wall will never have, that is HEART!
24hmong 2 months ago
@24hmong are you serious? if you follow the wizards you'd know jwall has heart ! and he is determined to win and nothing more. you trippin.
TheStaticKling 2 months ago
@TheStaticKling good one
drosefan128 2 months ago
@drosefan128 I know right? thanks ! love your username lmfao
TheStaticKling 2 months ago
@TheStaticKling Thanks man I appreciate. Cool username too. Bulls are going all the way
drosefan128 1 month ago
@TheStaticKling Its only him and javale mcgee.
beastieboy1998 2 months ago
@beastieboy1998 exactly ! he needs better pieces but the wizards are gonna be a playoff team when they get jared sullinger, andre drummond or harrison barnes
TheStaticKling 2 months ago
@TheStaticKling True
beastieboy1998 1 month ago
Im HIGH as hell.....
MrSlowPaper 3 months ago
stats don't mean a thing unless the team is winning. if stats said the whole story Monta Ellis would be as good as Drose.
Rose>Wall
martymonday69 3 months ago 18
@martymonday69 Wall>Rose
HandsforOllies 1 month ago
@martymonday69
And that means Bill Russel is better than Michael Jordan.
ChillyCloth 1 month ago
@ChillyCloth Bill Russel wasn't always the best player on the team. If you're the best player on your team and your team is winning that usually means you're a better player than a dude who's losing.
for instance Kevin Love has better stats than Dirk Nowitski but Dirk is the better player.
martymonday69 3 weeks ago
I don't know much about either of these guys, but at 2:26 it looks like Wall got fuckin wrecked ha
redbude 4 months ago
I like this kind of match up haha. Both unique, different style of play, and both entertaining.
driger11994 4 months ago
like the bulls but the song in the beginning is gay
JevinBruhBruh 4 months ago
3 YEAR FROM NOW WALL BEST PG IN BASKETBALL...BECAUSE HE'S A PASS FIRST UNLIKE ROSE
CETHEBOSS 4 months ago
Know wat we need A footrace rose and wall, i think rose might win a 50m dash but in 100m i will give it 2 wall
AnimeCraze0 4 months ago
J. Wall was helpless to D. Rose. But if they both had equally good teams. It would've boiled down to the best pg: Rose vs. Wall.
stsii 4 months ago
3:34 he,s lookin at him like "you are nothin against me"
cassavelli 4 months ago
its a shame john wall is stuck with the wizards for a few more years..
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TheNRS7x 4 months ago
Whats the song after the intro?
blackstaraimbot 4 months ago
music is bad damn...
Choirtab 4 months ago
Well, I don't know which one is right to compare players! Michael Jordan and several NBA Legends, their way to compare players is by Player's Skill NOT Player's Stats. But other NBA Analyst comparing them in Stats,
WeaponOfficer 5 months ago
Go Memphis!!!
CamRonb68 5 months ago
fucking music
MCd33p 5 months ago
And the winner is..............
haseebquddus23 5 months ago
Its all in the jersey numbers if you ask me. Rose is #1 and as long is Rose is around Wall will have to "AT LEAST" be second to best, mind you I said AT LEAST
loduude 5 months ago
wall and rose are great yu guys say wall in few years but rose works every offseason i love them both
narutoxgamester 5 months ago
i think its the rate at which Derrick Rose improved in his 3 short years in the league that gives him an advantage over Wall. 2nd year all-star, youngest MVP ever, not many superstars can say they've accomplished what Rose has. His work ethic is a direct correlation to what you see on TV. Of course we haven't gotten to see what Wall will do in his next two years in the league
DJDEMO1000 5 months ago
they have natural raw talent and both had coach cal nuff said
TheFordsforme 5 months ago
at 1:40 after dat block he looking like, des niggas got me fucked up
chuckElegend 5 months ago
Meh what a coincidence, the teams jordan signed with both have 1st pick PGs who have similar rookie stats and athlethic playstyles, the future looks good indeed.
SSEF15 5 months ago
For right now D.Rose is better.
dougie1o3 5 months ago
john wall did good what are you guys talkin about. those good stats
AlexanderKelly15 5 months ago
Drose is better as of right now....John Wall is only or was a rookie. But give Wall a year or two he'll be up there with the allstars. If is wasn't for Blake Griffin, Wall of of hands down won rookie of the year.
GuitarBoyRockingOut 5 months ago
The stats in the description obviously tell whos better
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Rose will always be better. Period.
TheFilipinoPWNstar 5 months ago
ROSE!!!!!!!
JayBee671 5 months ago
YOOO D.ROSE FKN ELITE GAURDEGE. FKN ROASTED JOHN WALL. BUT Y NIGGUH WALL WENT AT HEM. MAD PROPS. BUT ROSE SMH! ELITE!!!!
MrStefon9 5 months ago
John Wall and Derrick Rose are literally clones, John was just born a little later
SgtKgosi 5 months ago
@SgtKgosi thats a total misconception...they are more opposite of each other than similar in terms of how they play and demeanor. They are uber athletic offensive minded guards...and the comparisons end there.
piccolomair 5 months ago
Rose > Wall
azrielz219 6 months ago
the bulls were not a completly hopeless franchise when drose got there, the wizards on the other hand...
RAWsoulja317 6 months ago
Those who support John Wall continue supporting him. Those who support Rose, do the same too. Stop comparing them cause they're special in their own ways.
c0ldindark 6 months ago
@c0ldindark Couldn't have said it better myself.
MrFyrfly 5 months ago
@c0ldindark Agreed....but honestly both fanbases will hate each other...just the nature of the beast...the rivalry should be a close one, (and the rivalry is probably more fan/media made than actual)
piccolomair 5 months ago
John wall will not win mvp his 3rd year
OMGBERAW 6 months ago
wall is never going to be better than rose people!!! stop sayin dat shit
southsidethirdboi45 6 months ago
@southsidethirdboi45 he will easily surpass him in two years or so
DragonBZhd 6 months ago
fun facts:Wall has missed more games in his rookie season than rose has in his entire career. Health and Longevity matter in this league, just ask Tmac.
Rose is one of the few players that played at a constant rate in his rookie year, he never hit the proverbial 'rookie wall'. John Wall did.
Rose was coached by VINNY DEL NEGRO, who is one of the worst coaches in the NBA. Wall was coached by Flip Saunders, one of the more accomplished coaches.
Wall is surrounded by good offensive players..
piccolomair 6 months ago
@piccolomair trust me im a big wizards fan they dont have great offensive players the only one that can score is crawford and young
TheStaticKling 6 months ago
@piccolomair rose too , boozer,korver,deng and the wizards is a team with old players
DeadRashi 5 months ago
@DeadRashi neither of those guys can create their own shot. The closest is deng, and his idea of creating a shot is bumbling towards the rim with his head down. Rose is the center of the bulls offense for every reason. he has tocreate for others while also understanding hes the best bet to score, he has to set them up so that they can allow him some room to score...its like a mind puzzle. The bulls roster is the exact opposite of the wizards roster. The bulls roster dominate the little things
piccolomair 5 months ago
@piccolomair Wall surrounded by good offensive players? What are you smoking my friend...
305Southbeach 5 months ago
@305Southbeach Nick Young-A sg with good size, and a terrific stroke especially from midrange. He can also handle the ball well and create his own shot. Rashard Lewis-A perpetual mismatch, he has the size and strength to post up on normal sfs and the ability to shoot the ball and stretch out the defense, can also take big men off the dribble. Andray Blatche- a pf who thinks hes a guard. Has unusual quickness and handles as well as a decent midrange shot, but still the size and strength of a pf.
piccolomair 5 months ago
@305Southbeach continued:
Javale McGee, aside from dwight howard, easily the most athletic center in the nba. Has good hands as well, if hes near the rim,hes dunking the ball. Also possess good handles for a center. Thats just your starting 5, you also have yi jian lian a chinese pf/sf tweener who has length and ability to shoot and put the ball onthe floor. You have jordan crawford a guy with hops handles and no shooting conscious. You have josh howard, a 6'7 forward known for his two way game
piccolomair 5 months ago
@305Southbeach continued All these players are, if nothing else, good offensive players. The problem with the wizards isnt the ability to score, its the ability to play all around basketball. Too many guys who want to settle for their first jumper or the first thing the defense gives them. Too many players who dont want to do the little things. Its the exact opposite for rose. He plays with guys who revel in the little things, but individually are pretty sucky on offense.
piccolomair 5 months ago
John wall is just a rookie lor= =
JackyYeung1230 6 months ago
3:07 sick!!
SlickNick121100 6 months ago
like my man Stacey says, too big, too strong, too fast, too good
19lkj 6 months ago
john wall will eventually surpass derrick rose, he just needs better teammates..dont get me wrong, rose is a beast but john has more potential..compare their rookie stats: john wall average 16 pts, 8 assist and 5 rebounds while d rose avg 17 pts, 6 assist and 4 rebounds..
derrick rose is a small forward trapped in a point guards body, while john wall is a true pg..he can pass like rondo, and score like rose
GhostShadow860 6 months ago
@GhostShadow860 THE TRUTH NUFF SED .
imnottconcidedxp 5 months ago
if they switched teams i could def see d. rose averaging over 30 ppg being the only realy offensive threat the wizards would have. but john wall would prolly avg. 11-12 assists per gaame with all the talent the bulls have, theyre both great but different styles of point guard. anyway i cant wait to watch these guys play together in many all star games to come in the near future!
theserenitynow 6 months ago
@theserenitynow ex-fucking-actly
TheAbdullah23 6 months ago
d rose cp3 best
Jayie022 6 months ago
whats the name of the song in the first couple of seconds of the video?
jaffffart 6 months ago
Rose puts the team on his back.
MikeTuanNguyen 6 months ago
john wall on the heats
The305jose 6 months ago
Rose is better than Wall right now but lets not forget Rose is older and more experienced and Wall is just a rookie so lets compare their rookie stats.
Wall:
16.4 PPG 8.3 Ast 4.6 Reb 2.0 TO 1.8 Stl 41.0 Pct 29.6 3PT
Rose:
16.8 PPG 6.3 Ast 3.9 Reb 2.5 TO 0.8 Stl 47.5 Pct 22.2 3PT
Give Wall a year or two and then he will be as good or even better than Rose
305Southbeach 6 months ago 22
@305Southbeach the thing is rose was doing that on a playoff team if rose had the team john wall has his stats probably be more up than wall and they probably will a have little more wins but thats just my opinon
likylik24 6 months ago
@305Southbeach he wont be better then rose
mason273 6 months ago
@305Southbeach no the reason why we put there is this video is because everybody was saying Wall would come into the league and be better than Derrick right off the bat. Give wall a year or two and he will be as good as Rose 2010 2011 season. Derrick will be even better and i would bet money have a ring.
CrazyBlackman108 6 months ago
@305Southbeach Wall Wins Look at his assist And TO PPG DONT really matter rose got alot cus the bulls sucked back then .
imnottconcidedxp 5 months ago
@imnottconcidedxp the bulls sucked back then and he led his team to the playoffs idk if your able to win games makes you better to me, I mean that is why you play.
viciAmTheTruth 5 months ago
@305Southbeach rookie stats really dont mean anything. kobe didnt have really good rookie stats. and he is arguably the best player to play the game. their are alot of players who just flop after good couple years. so you never know. WAIT TIll BOTH WALL AND ROSE CAREERS ARE ALL DONE TO COMPARE, then you can see which one is better
Fakyou321 5 months ago
@305Southbeach, It is actually
Wall:
16.4 PPG 8.3 Ast 4.6 Reb 3.8 TO 1.8 Stl 40.9 Pct 29.6 3PT
Rose:
16.8 PPG 6.3 Ast 3.9 Reb 2.5 TO 0.8 47.5 Pct 22.2 3pt
Not to mention Rose actually helped his team get to the playoffs his rookie year after a year of missing the playoffs and tied the rookie record for most points scored in a rookie debut in the playoffs while dishing out 11 assist and going 12-12 FT, The other person who holds the record is none other than Kareem abul- jabaar. Advantage Rose
thety5489 5 months ago 41
@thety5489
I love rose, but you cant even compare the team he had his rookie year to wall's team this year......that team was full of vets that had playoff experience while Wall's team was just a bunch of 2-4 year players, and rashard lewis............I bet if wall had that same team, he would have had the same 41-41 record or better.
vtechhokies89 5 months ago
@vtechhokies89 come on dude, they had missed the playoffs before rose got there, and they were not as old as you make them out to be, the wizards have had veterans as well, and plus thier talent isnt as bad as you makee it. they made just as many move as the wizards and dont forget luol was injured majority of the year and kirk was injured a lot so it is not like that bulls team was all good. noah was not the player he is today as well and the bulls had many different starting line-ups too.
thety5489 5 months ago
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@thety5489 -John Wall is the 3rd rookie in the nba to average 16+pts, 8+apg. He is the youngest ever to do so at the age of 20.
-1st player in NBA HISTORY to have at least 29 points, 13 assists, and 9 steals in a single game
-only rookie in NBA HISTORY to record 9 or more assists in 10 straight games
-joined magic johnson as the only 2 rookies to record a triple double and have 6 steals in the same game within their 1st six games
-3rd youngest EVER to have a triple double
305Southbeach 5 months ago
@thety5489 thank you LOL
MrJjizzle2 5 months ago
@thety5489 .....the wizards suck though. at least the bulls have decent players. luol deng can be a star if rose wasn't there.
kbotpop 5 months ago
@kbotpop the wizards have decent players they just don't have any chemistry. I've watched them play they're just a bunch of talented players shooting horrible shots.
martymonday69 3 months ago
@thety5489 I don't agree, Rose was picked by a REALLY good team, the bulls, and john wall was picked by wizards, if you would've given wall a good team, he wouldve prolly led the team to the playoffs to, so rose really has no advantage, either way both are great
dnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 5 months ago
@dnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz A really good team that missed the playoffs the year before, with little to no injuries, and a really good team that made about three different trade his rookie. A really good team that only has two players remaining from his rookie year.
thety5489 5 months ago
@thety5489 ha plz look at the numbers first off to getting to the play off takes a good team not a good player rose had a way better team than wall in his rookie year. John wall i my mind had a better rookie year. Look at some of the numbers he was puting up 8STL in 1 game 18 Ast in 1 game 4Blks in 1 game he had more than 1 30+ games to. Forget all that playoff talk Wall will get there
AnimeCraze0 4 months ago
@AnimeCraze0 so totally disregard winning? o.k, it is more impressive to put up numbers on a winning team. they made plenty of trades that season, that is not the tell of a good team. I can show advanced stats as well, that Rose had the better season. He was higher in Per, Eff, Win share, true shooting %. Wall shot horrible, so his scoring is not impressive at all. I give him credit on the steal, but his actual defense was just as horrible as Roses rookie year.
thety5489 4 months ago
@thety5489 yeah man, i totally agree its easy to get stats when your teamates are andray blatch, yi jianlian etc
bentew26 4 months ago
@thety5489 Wat your saying really makes no sense. The number says it all you have to get of Derick roses dick and look at it from a fear point of veiw
AnimeCraze0 4 months ago
@AnimeCraze0 shut up fag, talking about other mens dicks. if you cant understand what I said, that is your fault and you need to learn how to comprehend and spell.
thety5489 4 months ago
@thety5489 Derrick Rose N1 John Wall N2 both have quickness, hoop, and pull up (Rose is better) but I think Wall has alot of potenicial but he is 21 and I think if he gets to a team with all star or an allstar goes to them He can beone of the best
lightsw0rd 3 months ago
@lightsw0rd I dont disagree, I think they both can become two of the greatest.
thety5489 3 months ago
@thety5489 but look at who rose had on his team. I would say that rose had a much better team during his rookie season than wall did.
taptapincorporationz 2 months ago