@GajoDaFolha the dark side in the Velvets music was definitely Cale´s achievment.
Just listen to the Ludlow sessions (Peel Slowly Box Set), Reed´s compositions were musically mainly Dylan orientated.
Cale brought that sinister and menacing sound into rock music.
I´ve uploaded some of Cale´s 60´s recordings you ought to listen to, especially At About This Time Mozart Was Dead..., After The Locust or (Untitled) For Piano.
Also Nico´s Marble Index and Desertshore which he arranged indicate this.
One of the best songs ever written in musical history, you just have to credit Reed for these smashing lyrics. But you have to credit Cale even more for arranging that wonderful drone song (instead of making it folk as Reed planned it). Cales Cover here is one of the best covers that were ever done; some parts even better than the original. John Cale is one of the most underrated genius' in musical history. Influenced me very very much, awesome guy with awesome music. Genius Cale. Genius.
@lendryesky yeh, it is - definately. I watched this on Later with Jools Holland a few years back. JA were on the same show, I actually remember him dancing but it didnt click until i read yr post.
@lendryesky yeh, it is - definately. I watched this on Later with Jools Holland a few years back. JA were on the same show, I actually remember him dancing but it didnt click until i read yr post. This is Genius!!!
I like cale singing this much better than lou reed. The dark atmosphere of the original is better kept. Although the both of them together as VU were pure genius and the original venus in furs is an uber-song.
One's rendition of a song is as varied as all the individual poetic opinions of the world ...each perfect in their own right. John Cale personifies the embodiment of the wax and wane of the perfect coffee haus iambic verve.
I'm dumbstruck every time I listen to this song. You'd think it would lose it's impact 30 years after I heard it for the first time. - Timeless, and epic.
NICE! I dont care much about the singing. This song is about that Violin & Guitar. This is the only live version that killed it! like the original record!
John Cale is the ONLY reason Velvet Underground had any musical Merit whatsoever, no one in that band besides him could play, and he wrote the music, Lou's lyrics were good, but he can't sing, John could have made it a lot bigger I think had he chosen a different group
Saw both versions,and I must say that John Cale's is more fitting,emotionally very fitting ! Not knocking Lou Reed's version,it is excellent too ! This song is too cool !!!
This is absolutely amazing and Cale is really very talented but i stand by Lou too and think he is also incredible. I love them both even if they hate each other.
Wow this is so fkin haunting. Absolutely terrific and it really puts Lou Reed's live performance to shame. I like Lou and all but it doesn't compare to this. Do Reed and Cale get along or not?
I know! I love Lou but that annoys me so much about him. I wish those two would just get over whatever it is they seem to hate so much about each other and PLAY because together they are absolutely amazing. Even if they don't seem to realise it.
well they have reformed the VU together for a few shows in the past so they must get on ok. Cale only left the VU because Reed was afraid to take the band in the more experimental way that Cale envisioned for them, i believe.
But i agree this puts almost every other live performance to shame, let alone just Reed's work. It's such a simple song too, just so powerful and, as you say, "haunting".
Reed has turned into a lame duck, whereas Cale is still at the core of it.
It is Cale´s viola that defines this song. Listen to the original recording of the Ludlow sessions (Peel Slowly Box Set), very Dylan inspired and then you´ll notice what Cale turned this song into. He was mainly responsable for the Velvets sound.
Also compare Cale´s version of I´m Waiting For The Man (which I´ve uploaded) to any of Reeds vesions and you might sense what I mean.
@ForARide Yeah, I agree. I actually like both artists, but to be honest, I've always thought that Cale was by far the superior of the two....Lou is just better at selling the image of himself. The way I see it, Lou is occasionally absolutally brilliant. While Cale's brilliance is much more consistent. I even think that Cale is every bit as much of a brilliant lyricist as Reed.....perhaps even outshining him. Of course that is a much more controversial statement, I admit.
Love the original but love this too. Both are fantastic!
bbpunk10 1 month ago
He uses a wooden practice mute on the bridge of his electric viola! Ingenious!
doctorfuse007 2 months ago
i have the velvet underground boxset with very early demos and cale was the first person to sing this song
UltimateVenom 3 months ago
AND HE PLAYS THE VIOLA!!! :)
bckm54 6 months ago
awesome version
marcoscotlar 6 months ago
wow
skoty9999n 6 months ago
Kommataraaaaaa.......tssss
mika7029 7 months ago
Reed and Cale, Cale and Reed; each one with his own brilliant style...the combination between was simply fabulous...
No need comparisions: Cale is a musical living culture! While Reed rock (and lyrics!) feelings are...imcomparable!
In this music, I think that Reed adds the dark side it requires...
but is a fabulous Cale version!
2 monuments, Cale and Reed - never comercial/plastic shit music...
GajoDaFolha 7 months ago 2
@GajoDaFolha the dark side in the Velvets music was definitely Cale´s achievment.
Just listen to the Ludlow sessions (Peel Slowly Box Set), Reed´s compositions were musically mainly Dylan orientated.
Cale brought that sinister and menacing sound into rock music.
I´ve uploaded some of Cale´s 60´s recordings you ought to listen to, especially At About This Time Mozart Was Dead..., After The Locust or (Untitled) For Piano.
Also Nico´s Marble Index and Desertshore which he arranged indicate this.
ForARide 7 months ago
@ForARide
Thanks ForARide, i'll go to listen your sugestions, specially Cale's 60's recordings.
But I will always feel that Cale's music/Lou's Lyrics, were born for each other...
See U!
GajoDaFolha 7 months ago
I love cale- but this isnt dirty.its too clean. no
dejahthoris 8 months ago
@dejahthoris I think if he tried to made it more dirty, it would become so "unatural".. Like it would be "trying to hard".
Bruuutal1 1 week ago
fuckin fantastic....
bgmckable 8 months ago
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
egregore 8 months ago
many rockers of the 60's still play their classic tunes... but not the way John Cale does
great update for a great song
pomfolynx 9 months ago
That is some sexy guitar right there.
thisismactan 10 months ago
How is it a Velvet Underground cover, when John Cale was in the Velvet Underground?
AmyNitrate 10 months ago 2
One of the best songs ever written in musical history, you just have to credit Reed for these smashing lyrics. But you have to credit Cale even more for arranging that wonderful drone song (instead of making it folk as Reed planned it). Cales Cover here is one of the best covers that were ever done; some parts even better than the original. John Cale is one of the most underrated genius' in musical history. Influenced me very very much, awesome guy with awesome music. Genius Cale. Genius.
MisterMorizon 10 months ago 10
@MisterMorizon I agree. The lyrics are great, but the sound makes it a masterpiece.
Amaresku 3 weeks ago
Truly amazing.
smoddelm 10 months ago
This cover is better than original!
gulmorb 11 months ago
thanks to this song...i got into bolan..bowie..numan and early ultravox
maltrouve 1 year ago
Cale's version is so majestic
tsak99 1 year ago 3
what year is this?
startygwint 1 year ago
lou reeds actually live version sounds like stoned, he should take cocaine again :P
fuckertwins 1 year ago
Oh my... (^^)
leponti 1 year ago
Is it really a cover when he cowrote the song
13915818 1 year ago
@13915818 Ditto.
BogoEN 1 year ago
@13915818 I think so? People refer to Bowie's All the Young Dudes as a cover, when he wrote it?
justnicknet 1 year ago
Leonard Nimoy sure sings better here than on that album he made in the 60's.....just sayin'.....
willbond 1 year ago
Brilliant! Thanks for sharing
bosporgiz 1 year ago
the girl burned clean competing with the virgin causes churches to fall-like you.
idiotjim 1 year ago
Perry Farrell at 1:08?
lendryesky 1 year ago
@lendryesky sure looks like him
mkzelda 1 year ago
@lendryesky yeh man, it is. its from Later with Jools Holland, I remember JA were on the show, I actually remember him dancing to it
hektorpike 1 year ago
@lendryesky yeh, it is - definately. I watched this on Later with Jools Holland a few years back. JA were on the same show, I actually remember him dancing but it didnt click until i read yr post.
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@lendryesky yeh, it is - definately. I watched this on Later with Jools Holland a few years back. JA were on the same show, I actually remember him dancing but it didnt click until i read yr post. This is Genius!!!
hektorpike 1 year ago
ecco uno che ha aperto tante tante strade musicali
quota49 1 year ago 3
I like cale singing this much better than lou reed. The dark atmosphere of the original is better kept. Although the both of them together as VU were pure genius and the original venus in furs is an uber-song.
littlecomawhite 1 year ago
wow!
maniacmae1 1 year ago
wow!
maniacmae1 1 year ago
its the violin,its just so torturous.magnificent
timmopie 1 year ago 2
@timmopie I don't mean to be a dick but it's a viola
MrMisab 1 year ago
@MrMisab actually, its a violin. an electric violin.
ThePrairieFiddler 1 year ago
@ThePrairieFiddler no it's definitely a viola. an electric viola
MrMisab 1 year ago
One's rendition of a song is as varied as all the individual poetic opinions of the world ...each perfect in their own right. John Cale personifies the embodiment of the wax and wane of the perfect coffee haus iambic verve.
sekhmetraptah 1 year ago 2
Awesome. A sonic narcotic.......
aquamoon22 1 year ago
His intonation on that fiddle is AWESOME.
gilfisher1 1 year ago
Severin, Severin, speak so slightly
drakur31 1 year ago
Anyone know who's in the band?
realspear 1 year ago
@realspear
just WIki that...
shmurklamashas 1 year ago
I'm dumbstruck every time I listen to this song. You'd think it would lose it's impact 30 years after I heard it for the first time. - Timeless, and epic.
uberpedant 1 year ago
Que buena version
ojoalcine 1 year ago
NICE! I dont care much about the singing. This song is about that Violin & Guitar. This is the only live version that killed it! like the original record!
BusinessCeo1 1 year ago
I like three Velvet Underground songs, but I adore Cales solo back catalog.
trollfinger 1 year ago 2
sterling morrison could certainly play
nick1137 1 year ago
John Cale is the ONLY reason Velvet Underground had any musical Merit whatsoever, no one in that band besides him could play, and he wrote the music, Lou's lyrics were good, but he can't sing, John could have made it a lot bigger I think had he chosen a different group
TheSbsw 1 year ago
@TheSbsw a group is a bloody group. if cale could have done it alone he would have. there is chemistry.
dejahthoris 8 months ago
amzing!!! Not enough thumbs to vote
Blaxfax 1 year ago
Saw both versions,and I must say that John Cale's is more fitting,emotionally very fitting ! Not knocking Lou Reed's version,it is excellent too ! This song is too cool !!!
kikmyjimi 1 year ago
Where is Siouxsie??? Love this
gritzko 1 year ago
Great version.
nasalscarecrow 1 year ago
He does a great job recreating that ostrich sound on his violin. Haunting.
theroachksu 2 years ago
lou reed seems to get closer to the words emotionally, sexually.
alexhirka 2 years ago
I like both versions. This is more murk,.
Who wrote the text? Lou or John?
Wiedni 2 years ago
Lou wrote the lyrics, I think the music was predominantly John's idea.
bigdunk9 1 year ago
Could be wrong, but I think it was Lou who wrote the lyrics
Rikuthebadboy 1 year ago
@Rikuthebadboy that was my understanding as well and I think he wrote the majority of the band's songs. He being Lou..
skyiscrying53 1 year ago
I've always thought of Venus In Furs as a John Cale song, so I think his voice suits it better than Lou's
AFirmKickInThePants 2 years ago 5
This is absolutely amazing and Cale is really very talented but i stand by Lou too and think he is also incredible. I love them both even if they hate each other.
bonbon1995 2 years ago
BUENISIMo!
kuakerdoll 2 years ago
this version is amazing
monoclethief 2 years ago
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Is Cale, trying to "be all Reed", in this song, its not working-to his benefit, its not the same.
phoneix91 2 years ago
What the hell are you on about?
Cale is musically far superior to Reed´s limitations.
Cale was far more influential of what developed into Punk and Alternative music, and hardly anybody matches his musical versatality and creativity.
ForARide 2 years ago 29
@ForARide true that, brother...
jclarencelove3rd 8 months ago
i actually like this version better than the original
nick1137 2 years ago 7
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Did I scare you? Tastes like Spock to me. This is some crazy shit. Got my Freak Falg a Flyin
smashingrapenuts 2 years ago
'tastes like spock to me' made me laugh proper loud
telecasterthommy 2 years ago 2
wonderful....very very nice.
CatrinaDarkangel 2 years ago
this song is so crazy, the whole structure, the lyrics, the whole gloomy sound. I love it.
NicoDraak74 2 years ago 4
omg this was a crazy performance
Thunderhour 2 years ago
i prefer vu version.
lou make it "dont give a f;.. way, and cale was too much playing with melodic elements.
original is pure and authentic.give me creeps. :)
sarwae88 2 years ago
Cale has a classical music background.
Lou is more Rock. Together was a match made in heaven! But also this version is interesting. I mean both of the are Artist.
I met Lou once. It wasn't at a concert. I love Lou.
JazzRockClassic 2 years ago
Wow this is so fkin haunting. Absolutely terrific and it really puts Lou Reed's live performance to shame. I like Lou and all but it doesn't compare to this. Do Reed and Cale get along or not?
nickfromCO 2 years ago 4
I don't think dear Lou gets along with anyone but himself.
KissMyAssWMG 2 years ago 5
I know! I love Lou but that annoys me so much about him. I wish those two would just get over whatever it is they seem to hate so much about each other and PLAY because together they are absolutely amazing. Even if they don't seem to realise it.
bonbon1995 2 years ago
well they have reformed the VU together for a few shows in the past so they must get on ok. Cale only left the VU because Reed was afraid to take the band in the more experimental way that Cale envisioned for them, i believe.
But i agree this puts almost every other live performance to shame, let alone just Reed's work. It's such a simple song too, just so powerful and, as you say, "haunting".
idontknowwhattocallm 2 years ago
crazy of Lou not to do anything John says.
if he never left, Loaded could've been White Light/White Heat part 2.
their eponymous wasn't too bad though, for a John Cale-less band.
genericusername337 2 years ago
and Cale actually knows the words to his songs
IanSchultz13 2 years ago 3
This is great, better than even the original...
Nisstyre56 2 years ago
cale is far a more emotional and stronger live performer than reed.
lesassassins 2 years ago 2
Yes! That´s true! I don´t like Reed. this is great.
SadLisa777 2 years ago 4
better than the Reed version,Cale sings with more pathos,5/5!!
mymindourdream 2 years ago 15
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thats what make lou the genious that he is...
Mulwany 2 years ago
@mymindourdream
I just find Cale better all round.
trollfinger 8 months ago
his voice is actually stronger than Reed's at the moment
SeamusBlonde 2 years ago 8
Cuelgue total, un himno.
fmlosmolinos 2 years ago 5
'bleed' is indeed correct - it's in the official lyric book.
xauga 2 years ago
génialissime, perturbant
borislamite 2 years ago 6
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firefly6763 2 years ago 4
it is bleed!
benjirichardshooper 2 years ago 3
Bets version....
sacamano71 2 years ago
amazing... I love even better than the "new" loo reed version, more bluesy...
Is anyone know how this guitarist have this sound... Wich gear is he using? (I can only see the strat)
Mail me if someone know
monstawild 3 years ago
.....
summegane 3 years ago
This is a great version of the song.
irrelevnt 3 years ago 7
I love when he sings "taste the whip, now pleeeaad for meee".
It's possible to hear some kind of strange pleasure in his voice...
rrte2 3 years ago 5
Haha, that's how Cale rolls. I love this version of this song, it's got that signature Cale menace behind it.
mainman99987 2 years ago 3
I like when John sings this even better than Lou, actually...
PrawnSolo 3 years ago 42
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venisfurs 2 years ago
@PrawnSolo I agree. Especially later years Lou where he's not even really trying to sing and just kind of talks along to the music.
ltsmash1200 1 year ago
@ltsmash1200
yes lately Lou has given up even pretending to sing a melody that fits the music.
taariqtaariq 1 year ago
@taariqtaariq
berry541 1 year ago
@taariqtaariq yep i noticed that as well
BigZproductions 1 year ago
@PrawnSolo
I prefer John Cale to the Velvets anyway.
trollfinger 1 year ago
@PrawnSolo nooooo, nobody's better than Lou for this song...
WSBianconeri1981 1 year ago
@WSBianconeri1981 Bollocks!
Reed has turned into a lame duck, whereas Cale is still at the core of it.
It is Cale´s viola that defines this song. Listen to the original recording of the Ludlow sessions (Peel Slowly Box Set), very Dylan inspired and then you´ll notice what Cale turned this song into. He was mainly responsable for the Velvets sound.
Also compare Cale´s version of I´m Waiting For The Man (which I´ve uploaded) to any of Reeds vesions and you might sense what I mean.
ForARide 1 year ago
@ForARide Yeah, I agree. I actually like both artists, but to be honest, I've always thought that Cale was by far the superior of the two....Lou is just better at selling the image of himself. The way I see it, Lou is occasionally absolutally brilliant. While Cale's brilliance is much more consistent. I even think that Cale is every bit as much of a brilliant lyricist as Reed.....perhaps even outshining him. Of course that is a much more controversial statement, I admit.
frankensteinmoneymac 1 year ago 6
@PrawnSolo no it's not, but it's great
anonymeprod 10 months ago
what a layer of sounds! Just lovely!
earlyperl 3 years ago 25
Seriously sexy song!! Thanks for posting this!! Cale looks so much like Leonard!! Dig the vibe!!
LeonardAndNickFan 3 years ago 15