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  • We are the bride of CHRIST, JESUS is going to come get his bride before he pours out his wrath upon the world. The ones that are beheaded are the people that get saved during the tribulation by the 144,000 jews who are preaching the gospel

  • Maybe this year :D

  • RIP.

  • RIP J.R.

  • Rapture? uhmmm who are those christians that revelation said will be decapited?

    the word is not rapture but "ingathering" It will be the 10 lost tribes that will ingather in the last days. the news is we are going to be in the tribulation. Pick up your cross and follow HIM. Be absent from the body is been present with the Lord which is a good thing except if you are serving the devil then ..judgement. repents while you can ...the door is about to shut.

  • Christians, focus on salvation and a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Rapture and Revelation are secondary. Belief or unbelief in the rapture will not get you to heaven. If there is no rapture, you probably won't make it until the end of the tribulation anyway.

  • It's a delusion.

  • @max2right i challenge you to a friendly debate about delusion, PM me friend, that i may be able to clear up your questions/arguments =]

  • @gammafreak I have no questions on religion that need clearing up. If you had real evidence you would post it. You don't so you can't. Debate with long term believers is a waste of time. They have no evidence available to the five senses to offer supporting the extraordinary claims they make but are convinced beyond any doubt of the correctness of their argument. My comments are intended for those passing through with open minds honestly looking for information.

  • @ilovemyfamiification the bible doesn't say our meeting is different from his coming. The coming of the Lord is in I Thess. 4:15 and 5:2 and the meeting in the air is mentioned in between without any difference shown between the meeting in the air and the Lord's day. The Lord's day coming is the first resurrection at which time saints will meet the Lord and reign with him. They are changed at the last trumpet, there is only one succession of trumpets having to do with Christ coming in Rev.11:15

  • people r saying the raptur wil come in 2010 or 2011 or 2012 srsly they dont even know when his comming.not even he angels know only GOD does.sciense cant compete with our GOD.people who beilive only what sciense says then guess what, sciense wont help you to get out of hell.

  • @arrozcubano We`ll just do like Bart Simpson, and get religius on the bed of death....Btw who made you in charge of who goes to hell? I just HATE people that think they are better than others, just like you do!

  • @arrozcubano too bad school didn't teach you about critical thinking, spelling, or grammar.

  • Jesus says we should watch and pray Matt 25 speaks about the wise and foolish virgins people now days love the world so thay gotta scoff and say where is the promise of his coming just like in Noahs day It is ashamed people are not looking forward to his coming this world is temperal

  • @gotautis we have an obligation to still try and get the souls that are on the brink and searching for n answer and it's our chance to show them the real undying love Christ has for every single person on this earth.

  • Rapture lies, here's the truth. II Thess. Chap.1&2:You believers are a symbol of suffering persecution and tribulation..its only right for God to repay “tribulation” to those that trouble you, so rest in peace with those of us that have passed on, when Jesus comes with mighty angels to repay the disobedient he will glorify his saints, but we beg you by his coming and our gathering together unto him, don't believe that day comes until that man of sin be revealed and is destroy at Christ coming.

  • The rapture is about to happen. If you don't know Jesus as your savior ask him into your heart. Don't keep pushing him away. He died for your sins. This is God's salvation plan that you believe that Jesus died for all of your sins and you will have eternal life. Something nasty is coming arount the corner and you don't want to risk your life not knowing Jesus.

  • what if the rapture has already happened, and we've all been left behind?

  • @GodotheInfantry Have you read the Bible: "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition..." 2Thessalonians 2:3,4 When you see the antichrist confirm a peace covenant with Israel and the surrounding countries in the middle east for 7 years, then we have 7 years left before the Lord returns for the church. see my videos for truth from the Bible.

  • That rapture is bully bull. See my website how I expose this fraud in my intro as I just used Rapture Ready Room to get attention. Even with the pure Holy Ghost, how can these newly born Christians mature fast enough to carry the Gospel. I split the hairs between wrath of God and great tribulation. Jesus prayed to keep us from this hour. Tribulation fire refines us but we are not subject to wrath.

    Leave this topic and for the US, see how we are set up for the Nuclear War

    the Anti-Christ.

  • I don't understand why Christisns seem to think that they are christs church. Ive been reading scripture and christs church had been promised a rapture and when you read scripture it seem so plain that the church was raptured in 70 ad, just as the romans attacked Israel. The believers where taken up and those hebrews that did not repent were exiled and became slaves in foreign lands.

  • Guys i want the rapture as much as anyone Im looking for it soon, but all that stuff about the stone that broke in 3 pieces is just myth you might as well believe in Xena..How can a comet have a tail in front and in back??...You know nobody can be decieved like Christians who want to see something from God, they want it so bad they will believe anything...That said The rapture I believe is close...

  • The rapture will happen. If you are watching this video and don't know Jesus as your savior and want to receive him them know It is simple and all you have to do is believe that Jesus is God's Son and he was sent to die for YOU upon a cross and confess with your mouth and believe with your heart and you will have eternal life. Romans 10: 9-10. Jesus is the only way to heaven

  • jesus is coming very soon.

  • Put the dollar in daa box :))

  • Verses all prove that the Christians will go through at least half the Tribulation. Here

    the Prophecy from the best in the West.

    All of you on here may have heard that Bro Terrell also preached a Nuclear War on us back in the '70's. He has held back on this for our sakes. However, it's getting closer. See all else who confirms this and what we are doing to escape the radiation. It's all on the web site listed under my profile. Stay in touch.

  • @BungalowBud well it is certian that christians will not have to go through god's wrath, because he himself said so. Jesus said he would keep us from the time of great trial that will fall upon the whole earth. There will be saints beheaded for the witness of jesus, but those are the ones that come to faith after the rapture.

  • In the Bible Jesus says how the tribulation will make many turn away from him.

  • very interesting. i hope jesus has mercy on us.

  • Guess what church Jesus will not come for those who are not looking for him

  • @gotautis

    Amen!

  • @gotautis Guess what, you're WRONG. "Looking for Jesus" implies those who have put their faith & trust in him alone & are redeeming their time wisely EXPECTING HIS RETURN AT ANY MOMENT + nothing else. In contrast to this, a person can be "looking for Jesus return" and believe that he was only a prophet or a good person, but NOT have the revelation that he shead his blood for their sins on the cross and was raised from the dead for their justification. Romans 10:9 is how a person gets saved.

  • @TheTheologianExpert

    Excuse me Me expert you are blasting me before you even know what i believe The belief in Jesus is God come in the Flesh is very important for belief of watching for him as he commanded us to do as in Matt 24 I do not agree that people are going in the rapture that believe that Jesus is only a prophet and yes Jesus shed his blood for all of mans sins I believe this you need to pray and ask for discernment before you go attacking a fellow brethern in the Lord

  • @TheTheologianExpert And works will get you no where since we are only saved through Jesus Christ so you can hang that up right now so YOU"RE WRONG

  • @TheTheologianExpert We are also suppose to put our trust in JESUS ALONE he is the mediator between God and Man and if you have not accepted him as your personal Lord and savior you are going to hell as well

  • @gotautis You look by reading the bible, not by looking in the sky!

    MAY 21 2011 IS THE DAY OF THE RAPTURE AND THE BEGINNING OF JUDGMENTDAY! For more info please visit w W wDOT Familyradio DOTCOM and w W w DOT Ebiblefellowship DOTCOM

    Also earthquakes have always been part of earths normal happenings as has war has always been a part of this worlds past time and will be here up until the end, also GOD said an evil and adulterus generation looks for signs and wounders.

  • @makeme708 the Bible also says that there will be those in the last days that are scoffers saying all things remain as they were before the fathers fell asleep just like in the time of Noah they laughed Noah to scorn until the flood took them all away I am not looking for a sign I don't need one I know Jesus is coming and when he do he will come for me no matter where i am The scoffers like you are the ones that need to worry

  • @gotautis Good point. God bless you.

  • the rapture is misleading,the bible teaches that jesus when he comes will be seen by the whole world,NOT in secret! the church will go through the tribulation,as noah,moses,jewish people etc they all went through tribulation,we will not have gods wrath poured on us during this,but we will still have to witness,and stay true to god "those who will die will die,those who go to prison,they will go".if gods people have been taken,then why does bible say he antichrist fights the saints in the trib?

  • Yea you'll see it you will see all the saints who love his appearing disappear out of the clutches of the old devil Jesus is not a wife beater The Bride of Christ is not under judgement the world is.

  • @andymcq2509 People will convert after the Rapture...THOSE new converts will go thru those terrible times and will be tried . The believing church will initially be removed... Others will be saved during the tribulation....The Second Coming is when those Raptured saints as well as those who have previously died- as true Christians will return...with him.

  • @andymcq2509 the new coverted Christians will suffer. The Now Christians will be removed... the converts will suffer for their new beliefs!

    (EArthquake---Baja line mexico/calif EAster 3:40pm..Easter 2010!) 7.2!!!!!

  • THE RAPTURE WILL BE VERY SOON !

  • today was so weird so i went to the place where my cousin is cause he died 3 weeks ago my grandma and other people from my family are also in there so its me and my family i go up to the thing that my cousin is in and i said tony if ur here give me a sign theres these lights that never go out on the wall so i waited looked around 5 secs later all of the lights go off on the wall all of the other lights on the roof were fine just the lights that never turn off turned off

  • I don't doubt the timing one bit.

  • The entire book of Revelation literally illustrates what happens before, during and after the tribulation. The bible is the literal Word of the Lord. It is not meant to be nor has ever been an allegory. The point that John (in Revelation) is told to "come hither" or "come up here" is more than proof enough that Jesus is taking His church BEFORE the tribulation.

  • Is it just me but when this guy picked up that book (which I dont think is a real Bible) make the Baphomet sign? It looks like he purposely arranged his fingers in that manner. You holds the Bible that way? Also when he sat it down he made another occult hand gesture (Up High sign) when he raise that same hand up near his head.

  • @myjamboree If you look closely, there is a pencil or pen on the table, and he is sweeping it out of the way to lay the Bible down again. Doesn't seem intentional.

  • @myjamboree The generation (and some after) he is from, when making a point, would point in the air to show that was what they were doing. I have no idea why, but if you talk to a few of them (especially public speakers) you'll see it. Again, I don't think is a deliberate occult sign.

  • Nothing happen.We are still here.

    The rapture is the picking of the

    First Fruits in the SPRING. nOT fEAST OF tRUMPETS.

  • 2009 is almost over. my how time flys

  • "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

    ---Luke 21:36

  • jesus will come and clear the bad and send it to hell

  • The rapture is a false doctrine which is leading the sheep into the pens of the wolves. How can you save yourselves and your families if you are not ready for the tribulation!

  • I am a christian and believe Jesus is the only way to god. However in the book it says Jesus will come but it doesnt say before or after tribulation I guess I am just going to have too live long enough to find out huh lol

  • Iraqveterankill4real' Keep praying and reading your bible. I was fed this escape doctrine myself from the protestant church. God bless you

  • Thats why I am non denominial!!! Jesus said hold true to my word. I wil keep reading you do the same thank you!!!

  • @Iraqveterankill4real I do not know what "book" are you reffering to but in my Bible is writen this: I Thess 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come

    I Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

  • Yes thats very true I believe in the word. But it doesnt say when Jesus will come it only say wait because he is coming. I think the rapture will happen it has to it is the great harvest but do you harvest untested fruit?

  • go to spiritlessons dotkom. Threre are some testimonies and visions from Jesus Christ that the RApture is going to happen.

  • The rapture is validated through scripture. The name of was given to the event by the Bibles faithful readers. If you want to make such a statement you better have scripture to back it up.

    If you take the Bible literally and understand that each "yot" or "tiddle" is strategically placed, then there is no room for doubt that the rapture will occur.

  • i enjoy studying with pastor arnold murray

    peace

  • i study with

    theseason org

    and i also go to the original languages and meanings.....

    peace

  • The Rapture is near you say! I say, why do you fil the people's heads with fantasy and lies! You are leading people astray and heaping up wrath upon yourself and all who believe your fairytale! Read Matt 24:29-31 to see that the Son of Man (Yahshua) comes immediately AFTER the TRIBULATION of those days and not before as you and many other false prophets have been teaching for too long! Stop teaching this false pre-trib rapture fantasy! Repent or perish in your sins!!!

  • SEE the vid

    Watchman's Warning: 10.04.09

  • absolutely right! Why don't they see it?  So simple yet they make it so difficult. (out of nothing too) Shame.

  • learn more about the bible pls so to

    theseason org

    peace

  • Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; 'Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly."

    Have you ever wondered what God thinks of your fly-away doctrine? Here it is

  • Do you study with Pastor Murray?

  • No earthquakes here in Canada. But last Thursday there was a definite rumbling after I had the Holy Frijole Extra-Spicy Hot Flamethrower Burrito at Julio's Barrio Restaurant. The end may not have been near then, but I certainly wished it was. I started out being afraid I was going to die, but ended up afraid I was going to live. Jesus may not have returned but that Burrito gave me a series of hateful visitations for a week! Does that count as a sign?

  • Sept 21st. 2small earthquakes hit Melbourne Victoria, Australia. Never heard of before..... Not long now folks.

  • Isaiah 45:23, Romans 14:11 and Philippians 2:10-11

    Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord to the Glory of God the Father. We will ALL be judged, refined, purged, reconcile to the Creator of Heaven and Earth. Colossians 2:15-22 The Creator became flesh and came to reconcile the World back to it's perfect state to show us all that He is Sovereign Lord of ALL.

  • Its funny you choose to be the voice of 1 crying - And your stimulus is that of a scoffer. Are you so much better than the saducees that knew the word to the smallest title and iota, yet when The I Am was in their midst knew Him not? Are you the only servant of The Most High? Let us work together, and be of one mind. Let us put on mercy, compassion, and love. Remember, and evil servant has said in his heart, my lord delayeth his comming....... Be blessed

  • 1 Thessalonians 4:4-6

    4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

    5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

    6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

    You are right, it will be a suprise to those who arent watching, We of the light are commanded to watch! For us it will be NO supprise! Will you count yourself with the pharasees who were blind?

  • AMAZING SIGNS IN HEAVEN SPRING 2009 - RAPTURE NEAR ?

    What about the so called rapture videos for 2008? I guess they pulled those off to make room for these. Jesus is coming in a hour when we ain't watching, BANG, its all over but the Judgment !

    Repent and hold on!

  • It makes much more sense to accept the Bible as literal, and conclude that the Rapture of the Church will occur 7-years prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to the earth.

    So please everyone read all that I had to say down at the bottom and up to this point. Start from where I first commented then up.K? thanks. Loves everyone!...lol

  • @Pearls2256 The Bible is literal? If so, we need to kill everyone who works on Sundays (Exodus 35:2), curses his father or mother (Leviticus 20:9), adulterers and adulteresses (Lev 20:10), gays and lesbians (Lev 20:13), women who weren't virgins when they get married (Deuteronomy 22:20-1), every firstborn (Ezekiel 20:25-26), and my favorite, genocide of Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites (Deuteronomy 20:17).

  • @drrobertoboogie97 sundays are not the sabbath. friday sundown to saturday sundown so no, don't think there's a problem with working on sunday.

  • @1986TruthSeeker But more people work on Saturdays.

  • If the Postribulation theory holds true, then the Judgment Seat of Christ, Marriage Supper of the Lamb, Battle of Armageddon, Judgment of the Nations, and other prophecies would all have to occur simultaneously, which makes no sense at all. Why would believers be Raptured into the clouds to meet with the Lord just to turn around and come right back to the earth?......Continued

  • * When Jesus comes FOR us at the Rapture, we will be caught up into the clouds. * When Jesus returns WITH us at the Second Coming, we will return to the earth.

  • A Post-Tribulation Rapture theory creates a serious dilemma in that there will be no time for the Judgment Seat of Christ nor the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Thus, the Bible clearly teaches that the Rapture must occur BEFORE the Tribulation; and the Tribulation must occur BEFORE the Millennial reign of Christ from Jerusalem.

  • Reason with me here for a moment. The Bible clearly teaches that there will be a judgment for all believers at the Judgment Seat of Christ (2nd Corinthians 5:10). The Bible also teaches that there will be the Marriage Supper of the Lamb for all believers (Revelation 19:9). Ok, if the Rapture isn't going to happen until AFTER the Tribulation, then when do these events occur? It's common sense.....continued

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  • I hope this helps. Everyone seems to want evidence and when presented they all want something else to back it up. What else is needed clearly some are reading from the NIV which is a corrupt modern day Bible.Did you know that JESUS, the name which is above every other name, has been removed in 38 places in the New International Version (NIV). I only trust the good old trustworthy King James Bible.

  • ............ and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words." —1st Thessalonians 4:13-18

  • For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:....Continued

  • It is clear from the following passage of Scripture that the Lord is returning FOR His saints at the Rapture... "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.............Continued

  • Again, an easy way to remember this is: * Jesus came 2,000 years ago TO His own. * He is coming at the Rapture FOR His own. * Jesus will return at the Second Coming WITH His own.

    Clearly, we will be with the Lord when he returns at the Second Coming.

  • Jude 1:14 says, "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints." The Lord will return with tens-of-thousands of His saints at the Second Coming. This event occurs 7-years AFTER the Rapture of the Saints. In order for us to return WITH the Lord, we have to first be WITH the Lord. This is further evidence of a Pretribulation Rapture.

  • Jesus came to earth the first time "TO" His own approximately 2,000 years ago Jesus is coming at the rapture "FOR" His own Jesus is coming again at the second coming "WITH" His own

    It doesn't get any simpler than that.

  • ...."Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." —Matthew 24:41 "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality." —1st Corinthians 15:51-53

  • This is what The Lord has told me and shown me about the Saints being CAUGHT UP (Rapture) for those that don't understand what Caught up means.K Before I begin I thank God for showing me and giving me Knowledge to understand His Word. Ok here goes.Bible Verses Backing Up the PreTribulation.

    "Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left" (Matthew 24:41).

    "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left" (Luke 17:36)....

  • ..right now God is showing us when to watch for His return. Everyday I hear something new about Bible prophecy and go immediately go to my Bible and read what's next. I pray to God and try to tell everyone I can about God before we're gone. I feel bad and I cry for those that don't believe. What are you gonna do when He comes for His church? I pray for all nonbelievers.

  • This is all real. God told believers (born again Christians.) to watch and pray. We are watching and trying to keep up and be up to date with the Signs that God is showing us. People that don't believe should seek the Lord for Salvation then understanding. Lost people will never understand unless they themselves are truly born again. Christians will be caught up and meet Jesus in the sky before the tribulation........

  • Amen

  • Just understand that the Rapture occurs after the Tribulation.

  • assuming u follow a post trib theology :P

  • I am Post Trib, and I would like to comment that it is Pre- Trib teaching that the Tribulation it God's wrath , when in actuallity it's Satan's wrath.

  • Do you have bible verses to back up your statements?

  • why do you need them if you cared, you would read the bible yourself, yes?...

  • I do read the bible sir and I have bible verse to back up the truth of the rapture.

  • I am sorry, I was "meaning" if you cared so much, read the Bible yourself :). I do, god wants you to "learn from the bible" not from other people. Sorry if you misunderstood. Please Forgive me.

  • i am mid-trib myself, s basically post trib with a different date :P

  • I really want the lord jesus to come i;m really interested in knowing wen will the lord will come there is something i have that makes me wan to get up and tell the people about the lord jesus and how can they get saved GLORY TO GOD FOR EVER AND EVER CHRIST IS SITTING IN GLORY AMEN.

  • Is the spirit of jezebel floating around in youtube land much?

    Date setting is a sure way of making it look like it is.

    Now, arent there "many false prophets"?

    I guess they've Identified themselves....

    Have a nice day.....

  • Mockers are a dime a dozen, yes Christians are weird, if you wish, we are different, especially ones that are on FIRE for Jesus & are vocally taking the good news to all. The there are the LUKEWARM and COLD ones, God /Jesus RED WORDS...claims He will spew these believers out of HIS MOUTH in Revelation 3:14-21, I prefer to be called a ZEALOT as verse 19 states that Jesus discribes with favor.

  • It's not just you.

  • Wait a second? Spring of 2009? I though it was going to be before July!

    Well guess what.. Spring has passed and Tomorrow is going to be JULY.

    Just keep moving that expectant date for all the Christians leaving the earth...

    I'll keep waiting...

  • okay so the green rock refered to in the BIBLE was said to have been knocked out of satans crown,there were 3 all together,and they fell to earth.How can that be,when god created the earth "HE" had satan,aka lucifer,aka the devil,aka,aka,aka,chained and bound in the euphrates river.Or did his crown just "magically" levitate in the constellations.I think you should all look up "SUN of GOD" on google and read the 31 page article.

  • How can people believe such nonsense and superstitious rubbish - are people really so gullible?

    This is the 21st century, when will the bigots grow up & stop pretending that religion and all of its mythology has a place in a rational society.

    If the 'rapture' was real, then that might be a blessing IF it took all those who believe in a supernatural & malignant jealous being with them & leave the Earth to the rest of us.

    God should be a memory to mankinds stupidity & ignorance.

  • This man will die and never see any rapture. There will be no rapture. Green glowing rock from the crown of lucifer? Is this Biblical? God could destroy lucifer anytime he felt like it, and could have killed the devil as soon as he rebelled, but he allows the devil to plague mankind century after century. Blame God for the devil. This preacher will probably accept an RFID chip implant, and encourage his followers to do likewise, using Romans 13 as the pretext. Matt 24 refers to 1st century event

  • I wish there WAS such a thing as the rapture. That would rid this world of so many of the chronically malcontented, anti-social stinkers. I met a lot of rotten people in my life, most of them in church.

    I lived with religion, and I lived without it. Living without all that man made Jazz is infinitely better. I left religion because as a faithful "Christian" I was requirted to judge and mistreat people. That didn't sit well with the decent human being I was. I don't like be taught to judge.

  • Christians suppose to not judge people god is.

  • @nikboss3000 God already judged this world Christians are only delievering the message God already gave TURN OR BURN

  • @gotautis

    Nice options....fuck you and the fictional god you believe in.

  • @Killer0fTheSun who are you? and what are demon Go to hell if you want to stupid fool and guess what donkey (that's What a Jackass is ) you are blocked fool

  • @gotautis

    Sure block me.But you cant censor comments.THE ONLY FOOL and in danger of hellfire( In your mind where it exsists only) is you.Matthew 5:22.Your not very knowledgable about your own fiction book.But then again your a christian,they never do know much about the bible.

  • ''I was requirted to judge and mistreat people''

    eh naw, thats not right atall, what warped denomination did you crawl out of?

    'hat didn't sit well with the decent human being I was''

    of fir christ sake get a grip son

  • Getting "saved" is like getting accepted into a weird club. Religion is based on superstition and teaches that memebers are superior while non-members are inferiror. It's like belonging to Spanky's Club House. You're either awsome and belong, or you're a square and have kudies.

    Face it, religion is no longer the hot-shit MUST HAVE peice of accessories. A growing number of people see it for the BS it really is.

    Most assholes can be found in churches!

  • Watch there is going to be no rapture before july 2009 i am a christian but i believe Only God knows the true time of his second coming so stop trying to predict when he will come.

  • I've read the Bible. The more I read, the more I doubted. I also was affected by many "faithful Christians" who were visibly rotten human beings. I see them each day on TV, preachers, "flock", all with repulsive character.

    I'm sorry, but if most of the rotten people I meet ARE Chrsitians, then it must be the religion.

    I've lived without religion for some years, and I'm much happier now. I don't desire everlasting life, that's another weird cornerstone of religion. One life is all I need.

  • its sad to hear you think this. The great deception is VERY near. The world messiah will fool many including people with your mindset. If you think this is nonsense? google Pentagon prophet hologram, google 3-D Holographic Display Using Strontium Barium Niobate, youtube BARIUM & videos confirm the substance is being sprayed in the air by the military (barium will produce the hologram). Google United nations one religion, youtube Tony Blair Faith movement (one religion) etc.... It's real!

  • You're free to believe whatever the overhwelming majority of people who disagree with. Did you ever think that YOU fail to believe a variety of "truths" billions of other people are devoted to?

    There are infinitely more people who DON'T believe what you do than those who do. I'm one of the countless people who DON'T believe what you believe. Who has a problem here?

    You can bleive what you want, and if what I believe (or don't bleive) bothers you, it's YOUR problem. I don't have a problem.

  • Actually I DONT have a problem. Good luck to you and the overwhelming who watch the news and hear the words NEW WORLD ORDER spoken by their leaders, see a single world currency and trading system (officially passed at the recent G20) yet believe its a big conspiracy by a mass of christian conspiracy nutcases. Peace

  • dude do you know how many people tried to predict the rapture they failed

  • I like J.R. Church.

  • well luling and lucifer do sound a bit different unless were talking different languages

  • You and your kind were defeated before the foundations of the earth. Your father satan will tear at your flesh and torment you day and night forever and ever, you will pray for death but death will not come. You and everything you worship and declare as rule ARE UNDER HIS FEET. The vultures will gorge on your dead body as your spirit lives for eternity in the fiery lake of burning sulfur

  • speak it brother!!!

  • Yeah man, you should totally say that on judgement day when you are being judged by God.

  • Robert.... God is all mighty. The Devil has no power over God. God has power over everything and is in control of everything. God is good, just, and Holy. May God bless you. I hope you will come to Him and ask for forgiveness in due time, because that time draws near.

  • God is God and no one or any of his creations is more powerful than He. face it you lose.

  • The rapture will be BEFORE the Great Tribulation.

    if you knew that a MAJOR disaster is coming to your city would you let your child go through that? no rite! you would want your child to be safe so you would get out before it hits the city.

  • Just listening to this how can anyone not believe we are not already in the tribulation? What "sign" are those who hold onto a pretrib waiting for?

  • Easy sign. Where is the antichrist? Everyone knows that the antichrist is the rider on the white horse. If we don't know who the antichrist is then we are not in the Tribulation yet.

  • I bleve there is scripture 2back up the rapture. I bleve past biblical historical events that r 4shadows 2the rapture. When will it b? I'm not sure. But I do bleve He has not appointed us 2Wrath. God pours out His wrath mid trib. I bleveHe will remove His Bride b4 His wrath. Even Newagers believe their extra terrestial sources that millions will disappear from the earth in a moment but not to worry b/cos it will bthe "inferior" humans that have been removed.Satan even knows about therapture!!!

  • the church will be raptured in2018 at the end of tribulation...but before the end Christ promised...

  • thats one view. i believe that christ will pick us up in the middle of the tribulation. we (true believers) will not see the worst of it.

  • Wow. Thank you for sharing this.

  • There is no rapture... But Messiah comes!

  • PRE-TRIB RAPTURE IS HERE:

    Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    SO 70 WEEKS ARE DETERMINED UPON DANIEL'S PEOPLE ISRAEL. The Church is between the 69th and the 70th week. The 70th week is upon Israel.

  • Pre trib rapture is just a fairy tale of the Century XVIII... It's just something you want to believe but there is not in the bible, and i tell you something... what if there is no rapture??... it would be the biggest disappointment in the christian history... so stop teach it.. but teach as the first believers did

  • Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

    Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

  • That's right... but it doesn't say that The messiah will "stole the church" before the tribulation... Come on... We are starting to live the tribulation...Let the christians open their eyes about it...it important... Come to Venezuela, see what i see around me and then tell me that it havent started yet..."We are Elijah"

  • Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

  • where is the rapture there?

  • Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

  • Of course he will keep you... as he has keep you always..Like he kept the children of Israel in that dark night when the spirit f death passed over them in Egipt cause the blood of the lamb, but they could see what was going on around them... it doesn't say "i will cut you out of the world"...

    Mat 24...

    May the L-rd bless you and KEEP you..as He keeps Israel from his enemies.

  • I do believe the only thing that is said in the Bible is that time will be shortened for the elect, this has been open for a lot of interpretations.If you know of any other scriptures please give them to me.

  • I know what you are saying is the TRUTH. Keep telling people that's our job, bless you

  • G-d will help us;)

  • Amen!

  • What if there is no rapture? then you have nothing to lose, but what if there is?? You have allot to lose my friend.

  • i'm jewish... even if there is some rapture.. i have to stay here...

    Doesn't it sound like antisemitism one more time? Early christians didn't believe that... They believe in the second coming of the messiah.. from the clouds and every eye will see.. That time is near... Tribulation is beginning now and

    Rapture Theology exist since XVIII century...

  • personally i do not believe in the "rapture" although I do believe that a second coming of our savior is imminent.

    I see only one war in the future, against Israel. Before that world financial chaos will result in the declaration of martial law and the "new world order" of which Israel will not join. They (Israel) will attack Iran in a preemptive strike and the world will attack.

    The rest is obvious.

    Prepare... food and water. Not to mention your soul. Time is short.

  • PRE-TRIB RAPTURE IS HERE:

    Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    SO 70 WEEKS ARE DETERMINED UPON DANIEL'S PEOPLE ISRAEL. The Church is between the 69th and the 70th week. The 70th week is upon Israel.

  • It's all Greek to me :)

    I suggest your faith be strong for the days to come as I feel all believers will be tested. If there is such a thing as a rapture then so be it, I'll just count on my faith to see me through to either it or the 2nd coming.

    I suggest food and water to make the chaos to come easier to bear. There will be tribulation for everyone, there will be salvation only for those who believe in and have accepted Christ as Savior.