Path of Least Resistance!! Not necessarily changing my belief; might be easier to change my behavior. It is a combination of changes of different natures, in a consistent way so to accommodate the change itself in the most swift and expeditious manner for the desired change to occur. I very much appreciate the posting!
Actually, as Einstein said, space, time and matter are all the same thing. i would say Seth, Bashar and Abraham, would also point out that space, time, matter and CONSCIOUSNESS, are the same. And of course, this is energy, aspects of energy.
god's not fucking separate from us...it knows a lot more, but we are a part of him...with limited vision, death is only game over, but pressing start again does happen
It's not possible to change the affect of gravity in this universe. Isn't like we are here because of what we believe in? So if someone truly didn't believe in gravity they wouldn't be here. No one was able to levitate in Earth, it's just camera angles and tricks.
@RToor34 Jesus walked on water for he knew gravity was merely a concept. He choose to believe gravity was alterable and so for him it was. Beliefs create the dreams in our sleep and surprise surprise, they do the exact same thing when we are not "asleep". The truth is (and as Bashar has mentioned) the physical universe does not really exist. It is a dream. A collective dream.
Now the question Bashar does not ask is...."What's wrong with being awake? Why do we dream instead?"
@schadenfreudeify No, not really. No more than you or I. He is as real as we are. Bashar is devulging many secrets of the universe.....what a bright light he is! But he is dangerous too, for Heaven is not his goal, and what is not Heaven.......is hell. I don't claim him as dishonest! I suspect he has best intentions! But he is in a body and he does make clear he is still learning and progressing. He too has his limits in understanding. I worry that he may not know "the way".
AH the Human EGO that says because I have never seen it and because its not true to me means it cant happen.. maybe one day some will come over to our side I have seen some stuff that years ago I would of got out a cross and some holy water haha.. Now of days I realize TV and religion and most of the worlds belief is BS and did nothing but limit our power..
oh yea? we agreed on gravity? I certainly never would have. "does that make sense?" Of course things make sense if we want to believe them and they answer the question.. but in truth just because something "makes sense" doesnt mean it is truth.
@PhilosopherManguy A personal truth is not really truth. It is merely a belief, and all beliefs block the truth from you. The Truth shall set you free, therefore, all beliefs imprison you. A prison might feel like a safe place to hide, but in Truth there is nothing to fear. So why imprison yourself when there is nothing to fear? Accept universal truth by releasing your personal "truths" and Heaven is restored to your awareness. You are in Heaven now! but your beliefs blind you to this fact.
@1971SuperLead what are you talking about? I was saying TRUTH in general is truth and does not change by person... as you said yourself "a personal truth is not really truth". Jesus said the truth shall set you free, so this is where you get this. If Jesus is right, then the other things he speaks are true, and so why are you ignoring the rest and hand picking what you'd like to hear?
You take beliefs of Jesus and MANipulate it in order to make sense in your skewed view.
@1971SuperLead You are making no sense... I said there is no personal truth... I'm just saying that truth doesn't change based on personal thoughts on it.
@PhilosopherManguy Yes you did. You said " personal truth or universal truth? either way truth is truth."
Next is ....Truth does not change. Truth is eternal. Truth is now and forever. Time is an illusion for nothing ever changes. Matter and energy are eternal, only the forms they appear in change, therefore the forms are not Truth, not reality. Don't be fooled by sand castles. Only the sand is real, not the shape it's been molded into.
@1971SuperLead And you missed my point.. I was not saying truth was relative but rather that it doesnt matter how you label truth, in the end its absolute.
Now how did you come to the conclusion that all of that second statement was true? You are saying just because you can't talk to the dead that they aren't real. You live, and one day you will join them in death. Is the only thing real in you your dead thoughtless skin cells? Bull crap, the only thing real is the part that chooses to move
@PhilosopherManguy Great! Truth is absolute, but it is also eternal and therefore changeless. It is a great thing to learn that Reality is abstract. Truth is in content and not form. It is the same thing as when Jesus said "Life is of the Spirit, the flesh is of no avail." He was saying that Life is abstract,it is not in forms. Death is an illusion caused by forms. When a sand castle washes to sea, nothing has died, the sand lives on, only the castle is gone. The truth remains. Form is nothing.
@1971SuperLead Don't bring up Jesus, you have no right to. You say at one moment that truth is absolute, and then deny the truth of the one you quote from!
The verse you are talking about says.. The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.
The spirit is not energy... The Bible would include energy as part of creation. No where does this say that everything is the same. You are talking about buddhist beliefs
@1971SuperLead The Bible actually teaches that we are to be judged before him meaning that into death, though we lose our body, we are still us. You claim otherwise.
@PhilosopherManguy, It's funny that people think Heaven is full of dead people. To be dead is to no longer exist. God does not talk to those who don't exist. You will exist after you "die", and if you talk to God I assure you will exist. A person has to be alive to exist. You can live without a body just as God does. After all, "Life is of the Spirit, the flesh is of no avail." The flesh is a costume. It neither lives nor dies. It's the Spirit that lives and has no need for a body in reality.
@1971SuperLead ...hmm? Heaven is not full of dead people... people who are fully alive, but we die before that happens. Thats why they call it the resurrection.
@1971SuperLead What is your point? Whatever you are saying you are still wrong about the Bible, and so you should never again use a Biblical reference. Christianity is exclusive, you cannot just half believe in it.
And again your point only proves my point. Heaven is not full of dead people because they are made alive for heaven.
@PhilosopherManguy There is no death. No one dies. Death is impossible. You will always exist. Law 1 of creation. "You exist! There is nothing you can do about it. In some form you will always exist."
.....or don't you believe in the Laws Of Creation?
@PhilosopherManguy Nothing is dying. Things only appear to die. If you look at reality a little deeper you will see that only forms come and go. The actual contents of everything is eternal and indestructable.
"Life is of the contents, the forms are of no avail." is the same as Jesus saying "Life is of the Spirit, the flesh is of no avail."
Reality is abstract. Don't get caught up in the form of things. Look at what is causing the forms to appear.
@1971SuperLead If you look at the Bible it says that all will be destroyed and that things actually DIE but that there is either life after death or a second death. If you look at science all things are expanding and so if there is only life repeating, it will all eventually die. The sun is ever expanding, it is all destined for destruction.
What is abstract about reality? If you read the Bible you may actually understand what you are talking about.
Let the whole universe explode into dust, it does not matter. Life is not of the dust. You will survive the worst disasters, for your life is already eternal my brother. The eternal do not die. They cannot die. You can't kill a ghost, and no....ghosts aren't dead! lol
Have you ever seen the movie Ghost? Did Patrick really die? That movie is more accurate than you can imagine.
@1971SuperLead It doesn't say "things actually die" but it does assume when it talks about dying, that they are ACTUALLY dying, unless you assume they are lying, which it says it doesnt. You assume there are ghosts. The Bible never says there are ghosts.
@1971SuperLead The holy ghost is a nickname... its the holy SPIRIT. The Bible still never says that people dont die... it says that we die. Even if the spirit will be regenerated. Plus MOST go to the second death.... you speak of the things of the Bible but have no understanding of it. Ever heard of the second death? If there was no first death how could there be a second?
@PhilosopherManguy The Holy Spirit (prior English language usage: the Holy Ghost (from Old English gast, “spirit”) is a major Christian term (but not uniquely Christian) -wiki
So, you believe you now exist, but will one day no longer exist, and then suddenly one day exist again. Interesting. Exactly, what is your definition of "exist" and "nonexistent"?
@1971SuperLead Death is when you die, you no longer breath. The body is no longer connected with soul or spirit. You think you can just exist after death? No God, nothing? What would make you think that?
@PhilosopherManguy How can you die when there is no death? You will never be dead. You will always have a thinking mind. In fact, you ARE that thinking mind. You are not the dust, nor the flesh. You are a formless spirit having the EXPERIENCE of being something you are not.
Truth is changeless. Your experiences of change are not based on Truth, but on dreams. If you dream you are dying, you may have the experience you are dying, but you are not really dying. It's just a dream.
@1971SuperLead You've assumed there is no death... considering we observe death... then how can you assume there is no death?
Why believe any of this? Your opinion is no better than any other man's random opinion. But because my opinion comes from the holy writ of the Bible which I did not make myself and is objective and has prophecy and more.. I know that it is right. If we rely on just ourselves without something outside of it, then who is to say a cannibal on some island is not more right?
@PhilosopherManguy I have experienced that there is no death. But I have also taken the time to look at death carefully....and life as well. Bashar admits there is no death. Jesus told us this too. But look at this....matter and energy are ETERNAL. Neither can be destroyed. Where is death when everything is made of that which can't be destroyed?
Only FORMS change. Matter and energy do not. Now, is live a form...or an energy? You can't live without energy...but you can, and do, without a form!
@1971SuperLead Have you experienced it? How old are you 3,000 years old? Jesus never said there was no death! You talk about what you don't understand. You couldn't name one time that even hints to there being no death... he says there is life for those who follow him... but there is still death in the universe.
The Bible says that all things will be destroyed and made new... so that destroys that theory.
Also science doesnt support that matter and energy are eternal.
@1971SuperLead Your theory that things just always were... is an old idea. It doesnt make sense with what we see in the universe and brings up many philosophical issues... like traversing an infinity-- which would make it impossible for us to be here now. and then its like why how and where did it all come from before it got like it is now... matter cannot always exist, and if it does. you have some major questions to answer.
@PhilosopherManguy Oh my, you believe in a soul! Good! Well guess what. That's the real you! Eternal and indestructable. Alive forever and unchangable. Limitless and sinless. Joyful and at peace.
So then why cling to this old rugged cross??? The body, of course! You've nailed your soul to the body and there you scream in agony. But you are the one who placed yourself there. Get down off your cross. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. The body offers you nothing you want. Wake up!
@1971SuperLead Why have you associated the body and the cross? since when have christians been attached to the body?? Have you not known that over 100,000 christians die a year even in this time for their faith... there is no attachment to the body.
Where have you come up with these notions? Even if the soul always exists... in this hypothetical, we still die... your point again is obliterated.
@1971SuperLead ... we still die.... the Bible says we die... A christian shouldnt fear death, because there is life in God... but that is the ONLY reason. There is death. "He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." Revelation 2:11
@1971SuperLead You have no clue what ANY of the Bible is saying. There is death yes... but there is also life. God gives life. Its not a hard concept... God can do anything, if we die, he can make us new.
@1971SuperLead Yes it can... We die because of sin. I am not sinless... so I will die. You realize I am NOT eternal, I had a beginning. So yes... yes I can be interrupted with death. But you do realize... that some have life and others have the second death... i explained this to you but you seem to not understand the concept.
You have yet to demonstrate the lack of death in this world, everything about us is covered in death.
@PhilosopherManguy The body appears to die but the spirit is eternal and invulnerable. Like Casper The Friendly Ghost, it can't die or even get hurt. Your Life is of the Spirit, your body doesn't live or die. It's just dirt. Who thinks they are dead when their car won't start? It's just a car. It ain't you.
@1971SuperLead Yes I understand that our body is simply dust... but you still have no reason for believing that the soul is eternal... you realize that was a pagan myth made up by the celtics.. Our souls aren't eternal, if they were, then we would have existed before taking a body and have always been. There is no reason to believe that. Other than wishful thinking.
@PhilosopherManguy Your soul still exists after your body fails. Is it then so hard to believe your soul existed before your body was started? It is illogical to assume the soul was created the moment your body was. formed The water exists after a wave crashes. Did not the water exist before the wave was formed? A body is merely a form, and forms come and go, but the soul is like water. It existed before the wave was formed and will exist after the wave crashes.
@1971SuperLead How do you know how long your soul exists? What do you base that on? If we are basing it on a Biblical foundation then we can say that it doesnt matter because there IS death, and we ARE created. There is no way that we've always existed.
But guess what... the wave is still formed, and has a beginning. The wave was not always there, and neither was the water.
@PhilosopherManguy The soul is eternal because existence is eternal. That which is not eternal does not exist. You ARE existence. You ARE reality.
Time and eternity cannot coexist. One denies the reality of the other. Of course eternity is the truth. Therefore time (the measurement of change) is the illusion. Nothing truly changes. Only forms change...and forms do not really exist. Eternity is devoid of pasts or futures for it has no forms. Eternity is only now. Where is time without forms?
@1971SuperLead What makes you think existence is eternal? since when have pets always existed... didnt you claim earlier that the wave and the water were not the same thing? Or is that my illusion?? Are you saying waves and water are the same thing?
@PhilosopherManguy, Waves are not water. Waves are made from water. Hurricanes are not air, but are made from air. Waves are forms water takes. Hurricanes are forms the air takes. FORM VS CONTENTS. A sandcastle is made from sand but is not the sand itself. It is just the shape. The same sand could be formed into many different shapes, but again, they are merely shapes. SHAPES. Shapes are merely shapes. They do not create reality.
@PhilosopherManguy Shapes and forms are temporal, but everything else is eternal. A soul is not a shape or form and so it must be eternal.
Of course, I see dead people, and so that is all the evidence I need for the the awareness that the soul is eternal, but I'm trying to give you evidence you can appreciate.
@PhilosopherManguy "All is One" is a common spiritual concept, but grasping it is elusive, but get this...Truth, eternity, reality, spirit, soul, mind, love, peace, joy, happiness, innocence, life, God, power, energy, creation, now, thought, invulnerability, knowledge, communication, freewill, freedom, equality, etc are ALL the same thing. Many names for the same thing. Love is peace is freedom is reality is God is creation is thought is knowledge is now is eternal,etc. You ARE all these things.
@1971SuperLead All is NOT one... that is an idea that came from buddhism and hinduism, its also a similar idea as some native cultures. But in reality it holds no weight. Why on earth are we all one? and what would it matter if we were?
Is death the same as love? You freaking have not a clue if you think these are all the same.
@PhilosopherManguy We don't die. Death does not exist. How can we die if death doesn't exist? Death is merely a dream. Dreams are not real. You may dream that you die, but you don't really die. Energy and matter are eternal. It doesn't die. You are not a software program written on matter. You are spirit. Spirits don't die, not are they dead. You have placed your faith on forms and shapes. Death is a change in shapes. Is life vanquished by a change in form? No! For form is in constant flux.
@PhilosopherManguy, I find it rather obvious. A wave is not water. It is merely a form the water is taking. The water is not dead after the wave crashes. The water is not gone. Life is like water. It takes many forms but it's existence does not rely on forms. Conciousness is the same way. It takes many forms, but it needs no form to exist. Reality is not found in forms but in the contents that make forms.
Read the book A Course In Miracles.
Miracles are my reason for my faith in the eternal.
@PhilosopherManguy Time is an illusion. Without time there is no death. Death is merely an illusion. It is the mistake of placing faith in forms instead of contents. You are not a form. You are a substance. You are not a wave. You are water. Actually, you are more like gold. You have always existed and never tarnish, no matter what you belive about yourself.
@1971SuperLead How is time an illusion if we are finite, and start at a certain time and end at a certain time? How can you say death is an illusion if people actually leave their bodies? If people who once breathed and interacted then stopped? I have never place faith in the form... I just know that we can die, and yes we can live on from God, but on our own we can't do anything.
Again... I ask... how would you know these things? Instead of making a statement, which you've already done.
@PhilosopherManguy Physicists are not sure time exists at all. In their quest for deeper theories of the universe, some researchers increasingly suspect that time is not a fundamental feature of nature, but rather
an artefact of our perception. One group has recently found a way to do quantum physics without invoking time, which could help pave a path to a time-free "theory of everything". If correct, the approach suggests that time really is an illusion.
@PhilosopherManguy Dr. Barbour recieved his Ph.D. degree on the foundations of Einstein's general theory of relativity at the University of Cologne in 1968. What makes you more qualified than him?
@1971SuperLead Being qualified doesn't make you RIGHT... you can still say things that nobody else follows and that dont have proof--- it was a belief of his, and a theory
@1971SuperLead Only one who doesnt JUST say it, but uses proof to prove his point. When somebody says the world is made up of small paper tissue, will you listen to them just because they said it, or should they have reason for saying it?
@PhilosopherManguy, There is no proof of anything. There is only evidence. Evidence is not proof. It merely inspires beliefs. Proof leads to knowledge, but what can a person really know except that he thinks, feels and has believes?
Actually, the world and small paper tissues are both identical on a sub atomic level.
What you want is "scientific proof", and Dr. Barbour offers you just that, but he can't make you open your eyes to his research. Read his books if you want evidence.
@PhilosopherManguy You think a physicist with his Ph.D. degree on the foundations of Einstein's general theory of relativity at the University of Cologne in 1968 is without reason? Do you think he came to his conclusions without reason? Do you think Einstein was without reason as well?
@PhilosopherManguy, Dr. Barbour and Albert Einstein both believe time is an illusion. Would you say these men were devoid of reason?
Would you like a longer list of names of highly intelligent people who believe time is an illusion or are you ready to look into this theory yourself now?
@1971SuperLead You kidding me?! einstein came up with the idea of space-time... he very much believed in time even being part of and correlated with space itself.... if there was no time then how could there be the "grandfather paradox" if time were an illusion, this could never be a paradox.
@PhilosopherManguy Einstein "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one".
Our understanding of time, Einstein said, is based on its relationship to our environment. Weirdly, the faster you travel, the slower time moves. The most radical interpretation of his theory: Past, present, and future are merely figments of our imagination, constructs built by our brains so that everything doesn’t seem to happen at once.
@1971SuperLead You are using einstein as a figure of science to back up an idea of philosophy... Sorry but this is not by anymeans a scientific statement you are making.
Plus in that statement, he says nothing of TIME... einstein never said there was no time... by the contrary he talked much of time
@PhilosopherManguy Again.... time is an illusion, not a hallucination. Learn the differences in the definitions. Time is not as it appears. It's not at all as it appears.
Matter and energy are exempt from time. The universe is exempt from time. In time you will learn that you are exempt from time! lol Only beliefs and forms are subject to time. Knowledge is timeless and formless, but beliefs are formed and so doomed to time. Knowledge is eternal, while beliefs are of time.
@1971SuperLead How are matter and energy exempt from time? ever heard of space-time... space-and-time are related. Time is the rate at which things change.... so you are basically claiming that space doesnt change while it most certainly does.
@PhilosopherManguy, Matter and energy are eternal. They are indestructable. They change forms but they survive all changes. They themselves do not change. The sand survives well after the castle is washed away.
You say time is the measurement of change, but nothing changes except the forms they appear in. Now, forms are constantly changing. So what are you measuring? Where is your reference point? There is none, for nothing is stationary......in form!
@1971SuperLead Matter and energy are eternal based on what? They are indestructable based on what? We know things had to have a beginning if we are to be even scientific about it, things lead to showing a beginning.
Just because we are dust and dust is still there afterwards means nothing. Stop playing that metaphysical game, you know for a fact that I mean time is the measure of change like movement, not change like of form... that would be stupid. Time has nothing to do with form.
Only forms have beginnings and ends. Matter and energy does not have a beginning nor an end. They are simply Now. Now is always Now. There is nothing but Now. Now is Eternal. Don't let the forms fool you. Nothing changes in Reality. Forms are not Reality.
Without form you have no time. You need shapes, lines, edges, boundries, beginnings and ends to conceive of time. Yet, none of these things truly exist. Reality has no edges, lines, forms, etc.
@1971SuperLead matter and energy are not exempt from time--- ever heard of space-time? or relativity? don't bring up quantum physics with me and then ignore the other parts that it teaches. And don't bring up time if you claim it doesn't exist. Knowledge may be timeless.. but thats another subject.
@PhilosopherManguy Matter and energy remain constant for all of eternity. Time changes neither one. Their forms change, but they do not change. A sand castle changes form but the sand does not. Space-time is the study of forms of matter and energy and not the matter and energy themselves.
@1971SuperLead Based on what can you say this? Science would say that we do not know that, and even suggest that things have NOT gone on forever. I already agreed that the forms change... so please stop repeating that. Space-time, is relativism, it has nothing to do with the study of form. It has to do with space and time being related.
@PhilosopherManguy, Matter and energy are eternal, following the first law of thermodynamics—“Energy can be transformed (changed from one form to another), but it can neither be created nor destroyed.”
I had no idea I was such a follower of scientific theory....but there it is.
Do you want to refute the this scientific theory?
@1971SuperLead right... lol and that is based on observations.. we notice that things don't just die out... BUT ... NOTHING cannot form SOMETHING... and because the steady state system for the universe doesn't work, we know that things don't just stay the same or support themselves as an eternal means. In other words, something cannot come from nothing, if nothing is TRULY nothing, because otherwise there is something. In other words there must be an origin.
@PhilosopherManguy The "Origin" thought is where you are stumbling upon your own feet. Which came first the chicken or the egg? It's a trick question as in there is no first, as in there is only a now, not a before or after, neither came first, they came simultaneously. Your linear thinking needs to be rethought when thinking about the infinite. Manmade concepts of time hold quite a few of us back. May you find what you are looking for.
@PhilosopherManguy My point is that the world and tissues are made of exactly the same thing. Like varied sandcastles at the beach.....they may all look very different from one another, but if you look closely....they are all but the same thing.....sand!
@1971SuperLead your point is that we are made of dust.... so what? that doesnt make us the same. A tree is not a rock, those at the basis of material we are made of the same clay.
@PhilosopherManguy All sandcastles are made of the same thing.....SAND......Is this really over your head?
Every object is merely sand. It's all the same. The different shapes and colors do not change what anything is. It's all still just sand. The tree is sand. The brain is sand. The cloud is sand. The rock is sand.
You ignore matter, contents, substance and only see it's forms, shapes and colors as reality. No wonder you believe in death. Your beliefs are based on shapes, not contents. Pity
@1971SuperLead none of it is sand... its all DUST... yes... I recognized many times over that it is, infact dust... the Bible was the first to say "dust to dust, ashes to ashes".... I've recognized this. But it does not prove any sort of point because dust cannot realize itself until there is something else within it. Sand doesnt ever go, "why do you step on me?" but stepping on grandma laying on the beach would make her yelp.
@PhilosopherManguy Of course there is more to reality than the sub atomic dust, and that is called God, Spirit, Mind, Conciousness, Love, etc., but they are not made of dust. Nor is energy made of dust. These are the dust free and invisible Truths of Reality. Not everything that is Real is dust. Reality is not dust! Reality is merely playing with the dust. The dust does not really exist. Each particle is merely a shared idea imagined to be real, and it fools us into believing in time.
@1971SuperLead Actually... its scientifically proven through E=MC^2 that dust is made up of energy. The dust actually exists... you can touch it. And if we all are imagining it together, then its still real, thats what we call reality. You are not making any sound points.
@PhilosopherManguy Actually....by definition....energy is a force while matter is an object. Matter contains energy and energy needs matter to exist, but they are two different concepts married together.
Matter does not exist in ultimate Reality, nor does energy. The scientific fact that they do is merely a scientific fact and nothing more. Science is not Knowledge, and that's because science is not based on knowledge, but on assumptions. Space and time do not exist either.
Understanding eternity is not so easy. That there can only be creation without change is a difficult concept. That reality is without destruction may seem unimaginable. But this is Truth. Nothing changes in Reality and therefore there is no time. Time depends on change to exist, and nothing truly changes.
@PhilosopherManguy """ things come to pass and you can't return to those."""" Actually, only forms come and go, and no form lasts longer than a billionth of a second. Nothing else comes and goes. Only forms alter. So, what in the hell is a form? Are forms really real? How real is any form when it only exists for a nano second?
@PhilosopherManguy If you cling to the flesh you are clinging to death, for if you put your faith in the flesh as your life....you will sure believe you are dying. Why not just nail yourself to a cross? The flesh is a symbol of death. Without the flesh you cannot be crucified. This is why I relate the flesh to the cross. They are basically the same thing. They are torture devices and with them you will surely die...or believe you can. Embrace your Spirit and cast your body to the lions.
@1971SuperLead Did you ignore everything I just wrote? How is dying for your faith clinging to your flesh? Why not nail myself to a cross? you completely misinterpret the importance. Jesus lived a life without sin... I cannot take away sin by going onto a cross. Also we aren't supposed to test God, and the Bible says patience is greater than winning a battle, and following God better than sacrifice.
Yes without flesh you cannot be crucified... thats why God took flesh.
@PhilosopherManguy Jesus came in the flesh. Are you suggesting Jesus was dead before He came into the flesh? Do you not see the flesh did not give Jesus life? "It is the Spirit that gives Life, the flesh is of no avail." The flesh neither gives nor takes life. Life is of the Spirit and the Spirit is Life itself. You cannot be dead. You can only imagine you are dead by imagining the flesh gives you life. The truth is, we have no need for flesh. The flesh is merely dust. Lay it to rest and go Home
@PhilosopherManguy The Resurrection would teach you that TRUTH does not change. God does not change. God and Truth are Eternal and therefore unchanging....hence Bashar's first three laws of creation. The 4th law is BS for nothing God creates changes. Everything God creates is Eternal for it shares God's Name.
Forms change because God did not create forms. Reality is abstract, formless. Death is only seen in forms. The flesh is a form. Look beyond the skin of all things for Truth.
@1971SuperLead God creates things to change... like the metamorphosis of caterpillars to butterflies. God created forms... he created life and the earth. Your points aren't making sense. You are trying to make the leap in logic that because God is truth and his nature doesn't change that other things also don't change... but that isn't true. We aren't in control.
@PhilosopherManguy What God creates is eternal, and what is eternal is changeless, hence the first three laws of creation. God does not change, not do His creations. When you see change you are seeing something that is not real. God is formless and so is everything He creates. We are Spirit and Spirit is formless. Don't be fooled by forms. No form last more than a nano second. Do not look for Truth in nano seconds. Look for it in what is eternal.
@1971SuperLead That is not true... the entire Bible says that this world will not last, that mountains will be leveled and things will end. Things will be destroyed, they dont last forever. But he will make it all new.
Where do you come up with these assumptions? You just make it up because it sounds nice and fits how you WISH to believe. What you are doing is making characteristics up about God so that you are no longer accountable to what he ACTUALLY says.
@PhilosopherManguy "All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter."— Max Planck
Matter is not The Life Force but a product of the Life Force.
@PhilosopherManguy Who draws a line and says "It lives!" Who erases the line and says "Now it is dead!" Yet, this is what you say when you believe life turns to death. Life is not of forms. Life is of content. Matter and energy are eternal. Forms are not. Life is of energy, the forms are of no avail. There is no death, for forms neither live nor die. Life is in the clay, not is the sculpture. Your form may change, but you never die, for you are not a form, but what is inside the form. ENERGY!
@1971SuperLead You kidding me? Can a rock live? Who says matter and energy are eternal? Another assumption. How do you know life is of energy? Can you shock a rock into breathing? No amount of fire ever made a star breathe. And can you make a dead man come back again? Is energy self-realizing? No.. absolutely not. Not even an individual cell on us realizes itself.
Energy? what new age bull crap. Mysticism trying to sound spiritual.
@PhilosopherManguy There are no rocks. a rock is a form. Forms do not exist. They are merely illusions. Look closely at a rock. What is it but energy? EVERYTHING is energy. If everything is merely energy... it's all the same stuff. A rock is no different than a tree. Both are merely energy. It's a matrix my dear. It's all a dream made up of the same stuff. There are no differences in reality. Energy has no opposite. There is only one energy and it's not a form. It's formless.
@1971SuperLead even if a soul was energy, WHICH IT IS NOT, but if it were, you still would have proven nothing. Every person is individual and unique and life dies, every tree in winter speaks the name of death. Don't tell me there is no death. Look at the world around us and the hatred and evil.
@1971SuperLead ever heard of the second law of logic? it is called the law of non-contradiction. It means that you can't both be pregnant and NOT pregnant at the same time. Two opposing ideas can't both be true. Therefore, Jesus and what he says, cannot be true and your beliefs also be true. Do you even know what heaven is? You say I'm in it now. I'm apart of it now, but not in it just yet. Read the Bible and you will learn how absolutely ridiculous you sound.
@1971SuperLead ever heard of the second law of logic? it is called the law of non-contradiction. It means that you can't both be pregnant and NOT pregnant at the same time. Two opposing ideas can't both be true. Therefore, Jesus and what he says, cannot be true and your beliefs also be true. Do you even know what heaven is? You say I'm in it now. I'm apart of it now, but not in it just yet. Read the Bible and you will learn how absolutely ridiculous you sound.
I think for me it is easier to see food as neutral, as in chips=broccoli. the reason I say that is when I used to eat 'that stuff' before, I would feel bad and think and apply all the negativity associated with it. now I rarely do that! I eat what I want because it enhances my entire belief system... everything is equal, mansion=apartment, for ie, and my beliefs really do make things what they are. that includes food
What we believe is the key of our choices, if the belief if not aligned with the laws of the Dao, we are operating from a system of devious beliefs.
We need to be careful in choosing our beliefs systems. There is such a thing as being in the right when it comes to believing. If we are not in this critical zone, we will be called on it, one way or another at any given time by the laws that rule our existence.
eating better food gets better and better and better! the agreement of gravity the agreement of healthy food the better it gets the better it gets. the path of least resistance! thanks for your posting!
Path of Least Resistance!! Not necessarily changing my belief; might be easier to change my behavior. It is a combination of changes of different natures, in a consistent way so to accommodate the change itself in the most swift and expeditious manner for the desired change to occur. I very much appreciate the posting!
csilvei658 2 months ago
I eat whatever. Because I have to eat. And if i am to die of food poisoning, so be it :D
Zandonus 2 months ago
This motivates me to never give up, since I have allready won but my "body" or whatsoever is still testing me. ;3
DunkleMaterie117 4 months ago
Actually, as Einstein said, space, time and matter are all the same thing. i would say Seth, Bashar and Abraham, would also point out that space, time, matter and CONSCIOUSNESS, are the same. And of course, this is energy, aspects of energy.
wildersara 11 months ago
Great Stuff. Wonderful. Thank YOU.
WonderWomanKisses 11 months ago
god's not fucking separate from us...it knows a lot more, but we are a part of him...with limited vision, death is only game over, but pressing start again does happen
wildreamuh1 11 months ago
why can't this guy just talk for himself instead of pretending he's "channeling" someone.
Superboy316KING 11 months ago
Thank you sooooo much! I had this question written down to be asked! Syncrinicity is getting the answer to me ;-) Score!!!!
flyingdogcoco 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
ANYONE and EVERYONE that LOVE LOVE LOVE BASHAR and wish to SHARE much more information knowledge or anything related to this GOOD VIBRATIONS
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ADD me to MY facebook ( TOR OLOF ) i would love to share with you all this kind of knowledge.
torolof 1 year ago
So right !
didikh 1 year ago
DANG RIGHT HE'S THE SHIZZEL ONE...
jimbowstroud 1 year ago
It's not possible to change the affect of gravity in this universe. Isn't like we are here because of what we believe in? So if someone truly didn't believe in gravity they wouldn't be here. No one was able to levitate in Earth, it's just camera angles and tricks.
RToor34 1 year ago
@RToor34 Jesus walked on water for he knew gravity was merely a concept. He choose to believe gravity was alterable and so for him it was. Beliefs create the dreams in our sleep and surprise surprise, they do the exact same thing when we are not "asleep". The truth is (and as Bashar has mentioned) the physical universe does not really exist. It is a dream. A collective dream.
Now the question Bashar does not ask is...."What's wrong with being awake? Why do we dream instead?"
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
i hope all on earth find happiness and all rise to the same higher level of understanding!!!
bcdigit 1 year ago
charlatan
schadenfreudeify 1 year ago
@schadenfreudeify No, not really. No more than you or I. He is as real as we are. Bashar is devulging many secrets of the universe.....what a bright light he is! But he is dangerous too, for Heaven is not his goal, and what is not Heaven.......is hell. I don't claim him as dishonest! I suspect he has best intentions! But he is in a body and he does make clear he is still learning and progressing. He too has his limits in understanding. I worry that he may not know "the way".
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
Comment removed
mahatma2222 1 year ago
love you Bashar! :))) xoxoxo
Limitless144 1 year ago 4
AH the Human EGO that says because I have never seen it and because its not true to me means it cant happen.. maybe one day some will come over to our side I have seen some stuff that years ago I would of got out a cross and some holy water haha.. Now of days I realize TV and religion and most of the worlds belief is BS and did nothing but limit our power..
grownman455 2 years ago 3
@grownman455
You are a beautiful person :)
theTOOLshed1 1 year ago
wonderful, this is something I have suspected all my life, thank you for reminding me :)
ascend2luv 2 years ago 3
oh yea? we agreed on gravity? I certainly never would have. "does that make sense?" Of course things make sense if we want to believe them and they answer the question.. but in truth just because something "makes sense" doesnt mean it is truth.
PhilosopherManguy 2 years ago
@PhilosopherManguy I don't think he is using it to mean truth but rather asking if this explanation works for that person.
wildernow 1 year ago
@wildernow whats the difference? personal truth or universal truth? either way truth is truth.. you are arguing semantics
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy A personal truth is not really truth. It is merely a belief, and all beliefs block the truth from you. The Truth shall set you free, therefore, all beliefs imprison you. A prison might feel like a safe place to hide, but in Truth there is nothing to fear. So why imprison yourself when there is nothing to fear? Accept universal truth by releasing your personal "truths" and Heaven is restored to your awareness. You are in Heaven now! but your beliefs blind you to this fact.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead what are you talking about? I was saying TRUTH in general is truth and does not change by person... as you said yourself "a personal truth is not really truth". Jesus said the truth shall set you free, so this is where you get this. If Jesus is right, then the other things he speaks are true, and so why are you ignoring the rest and hand picking what you'd like to hear?
You take beliefs of Jesus and MANipulate it in order to make sense in your skewed view.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy How can truth be personal if the truth is the same for everyone?
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead You are making no sense... I said there is no personal truth... I'm just saying that truth doesn't change based on personal thoughts on it.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy Yes you did. You said " personal truth or universal truth? either way truth is truth."
Next is ....Truth does not change. Truth is eternal. Truth is now and forever. Time is an illusion for nothing ever changes. Matter and energy are eternal, only the forms they appear in change, therefore the forms are not Truth, not reality. Don't be fooled by sand castles. Only the sand is real, not the shape it's been molded into.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead And you missed my point.. I was not saying truth was relative but rather that it doesnt matter how you label truth, in the end its absolute.
Now how did you come to the conclusion that all of that second statement was true? You are saying just because you can't talk to the dead that they aren't real. You live, and one day you will join them in death. Is the only thing real in you your dead thoughtless skin cells? Bull crap, the only thing real is the part that chooses to move
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy Great! Truth is absolute, but it is also eternal and therefore changeless. It is a great thing to learn that Reality is abstract. Truth is in content and not form. It is the same thing as when Jesus said "Life is of the Spirit, the flesh is of no avail." He was saying that Life is abstract,it is not in forms. Death is an illusion caused by forms. When a sand castle washes to sea, nothing has died, the sand lives on, only the castle is gone. The truth remains. Form is nothing.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead Don't bring up Jesus, you have no right to. You say at one moment that truth is absolute, and then deny the truth of the one you quote from!
The verse you are talking about says.. The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.
The spirit is not energy... The Bible would include energy as part of creation. No where does this say that everything is the same. You are talking about buddhist beliefs
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead The Bible actually teaches that we are to be judged before him meaning that into death, though we lose our body, we are still us. You claim otherwise.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy, It's funny that people think Heaven is full of dead people. To be dead is to no longer exist. God does not talk to those who don't exist. You will exist after you "die", and if you talk to God I assure you will exist. A person has to be alive to exist. You can live without a body just as God does. After all, "Life is of the Spirit, the flesh is of no avail." The flesh is a costume. It neither lives nor dies. It's the Spirit that lives and has no need for a body in reality.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead ...hmm? Heaven is not full of dead people... people who are fully alive, but we die before that happens. Thats why they call it the resurrection.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy If dying does not lead to death........is it really dying?
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy If dying does not lead to death......is it really dying?
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead What is your point? Whatever you are saying you are still wrong about the Bible, and so you should never again use a Biblical reference. Christianity is exclusive, you cannot just half believe in it.
And again your point only proves my point. Heaven is not full of dead people because they are made alive for heaven.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy lol
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead Dying leads to death...
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy There is no death. No one dies. Death is impossible. You will always exist. Law 1 of creation. "You exist! There is nothing you can do about it. In some form you will always exist."
.....or don't you believe in the Laws Of Creation?
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead death is impossible? how come things die then?
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy Nothing is dying. Things only appear to die. If you look at reality a little deeper you will see that only forms come and go. The actual contents of everything is eternal and indestructable.
"Life is of the contents, the forms are of no avail." is the same as Jesus saying "Life is of the Spirit, the flesh is of no avail."
Reality is abstract. Don't get caught up in the form of things. Look at what is causing the forms to appear.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead If you look at the Bible it says that all will be destroyed and that things actually DIE but that there is either life after death or a second death. If you look at science all things are expanding and so if there is only life repeating, it will all eventually die. The sun is ever expanding, it is all destined for destruction.
What is abstract about reality? If you read the Bible you may actually understand what you are talking about.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy The bible does not say "Things actually die."
Let the whole universe explode into dust, it does not matter. Life is not of the dust. You will survive the worst disasters, for your life is already eternal my brother. The eternal do not die. They cannot die. You can't kill a ghost, and no....ghosts aren't dead! lol
Have you ever seen the movie Ghost? Did Patrick really die? That movie is more accurate than you can imagine.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead It doesn't say "things actually die" but it does assume when it talks about dying, that they are ACTUALLY dying, unless you assume they are lying, which it says it doesnt. You assume there are ghosts. The Bible never says there are ghosts.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy No ghosts???? You never heard of the Holy Ghost? What do you think a Spirit is? It's a ghost?
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead The holy ghost is a nickname... its the holy SPIRIT. The Bible still never says that people dont die... it says that we die. Even if the spirit will be regenerated. Plus MOST go to the second death.... you speak of the things of the Bible but have no understanding of it. Ever heard of the second death? If there was no first death how could there be a second?
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy The Holy Spirit (prior English language usage: the Holy Ghost (from Old English gast, “spirit”) is a major Christian term (but not uniquely Christian) -wiki
So, you believe you now exist, but will one day no longer exist, and then suddenly one day exist again. Interesting. Exactly, what is your definition of "exist" and "nonexistent"?
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead Nice... looked it up on wiki?? Again its the holy spirit, the phrase is holy ghost.
Death is not a matter of existence vs non-existence
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy Well, what is death to you then?
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead Death is when you die, you no longer breath. The body is no longer connected with soul or spirit. You think you can just exist after death? No God, nothing? What would make you think that?
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy If I hold my breath I am dead? lol
So you think being dead is when your soul or spirit is no longer trapped within a body?
What do you think Jesus meant by "It is the Spirit that gives Life, the flesh is of no avail."?
Can't you see that you are Spirit and will still be alive when your body crumbles?
Consciousness is of the Spirit, not of the flesh. You don't need a body to think or to be alive.
The body is merely a temple, a lump of clay, a meat puppet. It is not You.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead I never said that did I?
Death is where you die, your argument is stupid. Because you are arguing that we don't die, but people die.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy How can you die when there is no death? You will never be dead. You will always have a thinking mind. In fact, you ARE that thinking mind. You are not the dust, nor the flesh. You are a formless spirit having the EXPERIENCE of being something you are not.
Truth is changeless. Your experiences of change are not based on Truth, but on dreams. If you dream you are dying, you may have the experience you are dying, but you are not really dying. It's just a dream.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead You've assumed there is no death... considering we observe death... then how can you assume there is no death?
Why believe any of this? Your opinion is no better than any other man's random opinion. But because my opinion comes from the holy writ of the Bible which I did not make myself and is objective and has prophecy and more.. I know that it is right. If we rely on just ourselves without something outside of it, then who is to say a cannibal on some island is not more right?
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy I have experienced that there is no death. But I have also taken the time to look at death carefully....and life as well. Bashar admits there is no death. Jesus told us this too. But look at this....matter and energy are ETERNAL. Neither can be destroyed. Where is death when everything is made of that which can't be destroyed?
Only FORMS change. Matter and energy do not. Now, is live a form...or an energy? You can't live without energy...but you can, and do, without a form!
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Have you experienced it? How old are you 3,000 years old? Jesus never said there was no death! You talk about what you don't understand. You couldn't name one time that even hints to there being no death... he says there is life for those who follow him... but there is still death in the universe.
The Bible says that all things will be destroyed and made new... so that destroys that theory.
Also science doesnt support that matter and energy are eternal.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Your theory that things just always were... is an old idea. It doesnt make sense with what we see in the universe and brings up many philosophical issues... like traversing an infinity-- which would make it impossible for us to be here now. and then its like why how and where did it all come from before it got like it is now... matter cannot always exist, and if it does. you have some major questions to answer.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Matter and energy is not what your soul is made of... if it were then we could destroy it or harness it.... even recreate it
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Oh my, you believe in a soul! Good! Well guess what. That's the real you! Eternal and indestructable. Alive forever and unchangable. Limitless and sinless. Joyful and at peace.
So then why cling to this old rugged cross??? The body, of course! You've nailed your soul to the body and there you scream in agony. But you are the one who placed yourself there. Get down off your cross. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. The body offers you nothing you want. Wake up!
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Why have you associated the body and the cross? since when have christians been attached to the body?? Have you not known that over 100,000 christians die a year even in this time for their faith... there is no attachment to the body.
Where have you come up with these notions? Even if the soul always exists... in this hypothetical, we still die... your point again is obliterated.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy "It is the Spirit that gives Life, the flesh is of no avail" - Jesus
Can't you understand that your body neither gives nor takes your life? It is your Spirit that is alive and will always live.
A Christian shouldn't fear death, for he should know there is no death. The flesh is but dust. The dust is not alive nor dead. It is nearly dust.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead ... we still die.... the Bible says we die... A christian shouldnt fear death, because there is life in God... but that is the ONLY reason. There is death. "He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death." Revelation 2:11
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy, Fine, die, so much for eternal life for you I guess.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead You have no clue what ANY of the Bible is saying. There is death yes... but there is also life. God gives life. Its not a hard concept... God can do anything, if we die, he can make us new.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Eternal life can not be interrupted with moments of death, otherwise it's not really eternal life, but intermittent life.
"Life is of the Spirit" Do you think your spirit can be dead?
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Yes it can... We die because of sin. I am not sinless... so I will die. You realize I am NOT eternal, I had a beginning. So yes... yes I can be interrupted with death. But you do realize... that some have life and others have the second death... i explained this to you but you seem to not understand the concept.
You have yet to demonstrate the lack of death in this world, everything about us is covered in death.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy The body appears to die but the spirit is eternal and invulnerable. Like Casper The Friendly Ghost, it can't die or even get hurt. Your Life is of the Spirit, your body doesn't live or die. It's just dirt. Who thinks they are dead when their car won't start? It's just a car. It ain't you.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Yes I understand that our body is simply dust... but you still have no reason for believing that the soul is eternal... you realize that was a pagan myth made up by the celtics.. Our souls aren't eternal, if they were, then we would have existed before taking a body and have always been. There is no reason to believe that. Other than wishful thinking.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Your soul still exists after your body fails. Is it then so hard to believe your soul existed before your body was started? It is illogical to assume the soul was created the moment your body was. formed The water exists after a wave crashes. Did not the water exist before the wave was formed? A body is merely a form, and forms come and go, but the soul is like water. It existed before the wave was formed and will exist after the wave crashes.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead How do you know how long your soul exists? What do you base that on? If we are basing it on a Biblical foundation then we can say that it doesnt matter because there IS death, and we ARE created. There is no way that we've always existed.
But guess what... the wave is still formed, and has a beginning. The wave was not always there, and neither was the water.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy The soul is eternal because existence is eternal. That which is not eternal does not exist. You ARE existence. You ARE reality.
Time and eternity cannot coexist. One denies the reality of the other. Of course eternity is the truth. Therefore time (the measurement of change) is the illusion. Nothing truly changes. Only forms change...and forms do not really exist. Eternity is devoid of pasts or futures for it has no forms. Eternity is only now. Where is time without forms?
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead What makes you think existence is eternal? since when have pets always existed... didnt you claim earlier that the wave and the water were not the same thing? Or is that my illusion?? Are you saying waves and water are the same thing?
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy, Waves are not water. Waves are made from water. Hurricanes are not air, but are made from air. Waves are forms water takes. Hurricanes are forms the air takes. FORM VS CONTENTS. A sandcastle is made from sand but is not the sand itself. It is just the shape. The same sand could be formed into many different shapes, but again, they are merely shapes. SHAPES. Shapes are merely shapes. They do not create reality.
Life is of the sand, not the castles.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead hurricanes are water and charged particles. Right... as I said though.... I agree with those points....
Again you have no proof or legitimate reasoning for believing that a soul is forever.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Shapes and forms are temporal, but everything else is eternal. A soul is not a shape or form and so it must be eternal.
Of course, I see dead people, and so that is all the evidence I need for the the awareness that the soul is eternal, but I'm trying to give you evidence you can appreciate.
Read A Course In Miracles.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy "All is One" is a common spiritual concept, but grasping it is elusive, but get this...Truth, eternity, reality, spirit, soul, mind, love, peace, joy, happiness, innocence, life, God, power, energy, creation, now, thought, invulnerability, knowledge, communication, freewill, freedom, equality, etc are ALL the same thing. Many names for the same thing. Love is peace is freedom is reality is God is creation is thought is knowledge is now is eternal,etc. You ARE all these things.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead All is NOT one... that is an idea that came from buddhism and hinduism, its also a similar idea as some native cultures. But in reality it holds no weight. Why on earth are we all one? and what would it matter if we were?
Is death the same as love? You freaking have not a clue if you think these are all the same.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Monism is found in most all religions, many philosophies and in Quantum science.
Even on earth are we all one even though it appears we are separate.
"""Is death the same as love?""" Well of course not. Death does not exist! Only that which exists is all One.
I suggest you research Plato's Theory Of Forms or theory of Ideas, and Hylomorphism developed by Aristotle.
You are never alone, nor have you any true privacy. Your fig leaf hides nothing.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead haha... quantum science? lol you have to be kidding me. Just because we are made of dirt doesnt mean that we are all dirt.
If death doesnt exist, then why do we die?
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy We don't die. Death does not exist. How can we die if death doesn't exist? Death is merely a dream. Dreams are not real. You may dream that you die, but you don't really die. Energy and matter are eternal. It doesn't die. You are not a software program written on matter. You are spirit. Spirits don't die, not are they dead. You have placed your faith on forms and shapes. Death is a change in shapes. Is life vanquished by a change in form? No! For form is in constant flux.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Tell me, what reason do you have to believe this --other than wishful thinking?
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy, I find it rather obvious. A wave is not water. It is merely a form the water is taking. The water is not dead after the wave crashes. The water is not gone. Life is like water. It takes many forms but it's existence does not rely on forms. Conciousness is the same way. It takes many forms, but it needs no form to exist. Reality is not found in forms but in the contents that make forms.
Read the book A Course In Miracles.
Miracles are my reason for my faith in the eternal.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Sure... I never claimed that the mind is not the body... but again... what reason do you have that we have always lived?
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Time is an illusion. Without time there is no death. Death is merely an illusion. It is the mistake of placing faith in forms instead of contents. You are not a form. You are a substance. You are not a wave. You are water. Actually, you are more like gold. You have always existed and never tarnish, no matter what you belive about yourself.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead How is time an illusion if we are finite, and start at a certain time and end at a certain time? How can you say death is an illusion if people actually leave their bodies? If people who once breathed and interacted then stopped? I have never place faith in the form... I just know that we can die, and yes we can live on from God, but on our own we can't do anything.
Again... I ask... how would you know these things? Instead of making a statement, which you've already done.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Physicists are not sure time exists at all. In their quest for deeper theories of the universe, some researchers increasingly suspect that time is not a fundamental feature of nature, but rather
an artefact of our perception. One group has recently found a way to do quantum physics without invoking time, which could help pave a path to a time-free "theory of everything". If correct, the approach suggests that time really is an illusion.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Look up Julian Barbour in wikipedia, and have yourself a good read.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead haha lol... thats just some guys random opinion, no more scientific, no more backed up that what you said
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Dr. Barbour recieved his Ph.D. degree on the foundations of Einstein's general theory of relativity at the University of Cologne in 1968. What makes you more qualified than him?
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Being qualified doesn't make you RIGHT... you can still say things that nobody else follows and that dont have proof--- it was a belief of his, and a theory
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy, How many physicists need to say time is an illusion before you'll look for yourself?
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Only one who doesnt JUST say it, but uses proof to prove his point. When somebody says the world is made up of small paper tissue, will you listen to them just because they said it, or should they have reason for saying it?
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy, There is no proof of anything. There is only evidence. Evidence is not proof. It merely inspires beliefs. Proof leads to knowledge, but what can a person really know except that he thinks, feels and has believes?
Actually, the world and small paper tissues are both identical on a sub atomic level.
What you want is "scientific proof", and Dr. Barbour offers you just that, but he can't make you open your eyes to his research. Read his books if you want evidence.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead What I mean is... REASONING... if you have no reason, nothing to back it up. Then you are just making crap up. Common sense.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@PhilosopherManguy You think a physicist with his Ph.D. degree on the foundations of Einstein's general theory of relativity at the University of Cologne in 1968 is without reason? Do you think he came to his conclusions without reason? Do you think Einstein was without reason as well?
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy, Dr. Barbour and Albert Einstein both believe time is an illusion. Would you say these men were devoid of reason?
Would you like a longer list of names of highly intelligent people who believe time is an illusion or are you ready to look into this theory yourself now?
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead You kidding me?! einstein came up with the idea of space-time... he very much believed in time even being part of and correlated with space itself.... if there was no time then how could there be the "grandfather paradox" if time were an illusion, this could never be a paradox.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Einstein "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one".
Our understanding of time, Einstein said, is based on its relationship to our environment. Weirdly, the faster you travel, the slower time moves. The most radical interpretation of his theory: Past, present, and future are merely figments of our imagination, constructs built by our brains so that everything doesn’t seem to happen at once.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead You are using einstein as a figure of science to back up an idea of philosophy... Sorry but this is not by anymeans a scientific statement you are making.
Plus in that statement, he says nothing of TIME... einstein never said there was no time... by the contrary he talked much of time
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Again.... time is an illusion, not a hallucination. Learn the differences in the definitions. Time is not as it appears. It's not at all as it appears.
Matter and energy are exempt from time. The universe is exempt from time. In time you will learn that you are exempt from time! lol Only beliefs and forms are subject to time. Knowledge is timeless and formless, but beliefs are formed and so doomed to time. Knowledge is eternal, while beliefs are of time.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead How are matter and energy exempt from time? ever heard of space-time... space-and-time are related. Time is the rate at which things change.... so you are basically claiming that space doesnt change while it most certainly does.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy, Matter and energy are eternal. They are indestructable. They change forms but they survive all changes. They themselves do not change. The sand survives well after the castle is washed away.
You say time is the measurement of change, but nothing changes except the forms they appear in. Now, forms are constantly changing. So what are you measuring? Where is your reference point? There is none, for nothing is stationary......in form!
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Matter and energy are eternal based on what? They are indestructable based on what? We know things had to have a beginning if we are to be even scientific about it, things lead to showing a beginning.
Just because we are dust and dust is still there afterwards means nothing. Stop playing that metaphysical game, you know for a fact that I mean time is the measure of change like movement, not change like of form... that would be stupid. Time has nothing to do with form.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Based on that science fact.
Only forms have beginnings and ends. Matter and energy does not have a beginning nor an end. They are simply Now. Now is always Now. There is nothing but Now. Now is Eternal. Don't let the forms fool you. Nothing changes in Reality. Forms are not Reality.
Without form you have no time. You need shapes, lines, edges, boundries, beginnings and ends to conceive of time. Yet, none of these things truly exist. Reality has no edges, lines, forms, etc.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead matter and energy are not exempt from time--- ever heard of space-time? or relativity? don't bring up quantum physics with me and then ignore the other parts that it teaches. And don't bring up time if you claim it doesn't exist. Knowledge may be timeless.. but thats another subject.
PhilosopherManguy 10 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Matter and energy remain constant for all of eternity. Time changes neither one. Their forms change, but they do not change. A sand castle changes form but the sand does not. Space-time is the study of forms of matter and energy and not the matter and energy themselves.
1971SuperLead 10 months ago
@1971SuperLead Based on what can you say this? Science would say that we do not know that, and even suggest that things have NOT gone on forever. I already agreed that the forms change... so please stop repeating that. Space-time, is relativism, it has nothing to do with the study of form. It has to do with space and time being related.
PhilosopherManguy 10 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy, Matter and energy are eternal, following the first law of thermodynamics—“Energy can be transformed (changed from one form to another), but it can neither be created nor destroyed.”
I had no idea I was such a follower of scientific theory....but there it is.
Do you want to refute the this scientific theory?
1971SuperLead 10 months ago
@1971SuperLead right... lol and that is based on observations.. we notice that things don't just die out... BUT ... NOTHING cannot form SOMETHING... and because the steady state system for the universe doesn't work, we know that things don't just stay the same or support themselves as an eternal means. In other words, something cannot come from nothing, if nothing is TRULY nothing, because otherwise there is something. In other words there must be an origin.
PhilosopherManguy 10 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@PhilosopherManguy, On a sub atomic level....nothing changes. Crazy shit may be flying all over the place, but the shit doesn't change.
I really wonder what you mean by the "NOTHING cannot form SOMETHING" statement. What "something" are you speaking of?
Hey, if you say something.......is that something......something?
1971SuperLead 10 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy The "Origin" thought is where you are stumbling upon your own feet. Which came first the chicken or the egg? It's a trick question as in there is no first, as in there is only a now, not a before or after, neither came first, they came simultaneously. Your linear thinking needs to be rethought when thinking about the infinite. Manmade concepts of time hold quite a few of us back. May you find what you are looking for.
nomakym 1 month ago
@1971SuperLead actually small paper tissues are not what make up the world though
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy My point is that the world and tissues are made of exactly the same thing. Like varied sandcastles at the beach.....they may all look very different from one another, but if you look closely....they are all but the same thing.....sand!
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead your point is that we are made of dust.... so what? that doesnt make us the same. A tree is not a rock, those at the basis of material we are made of the same clay.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy All sandcastles are made of the same thing.....SAND......Is this really over your head?
Every object is merely sand. It's all the same. The different shapes and colors do not change what anything is. It's all still just sand. The tree is sand. The brain is sand. The cloud is sand. The rock is sand.
You ignore matter, contents, substance and only see it's forms, shapes and colors as reality. No wonder you believe in death. Your beliefs are based on shapes, not contents. Pity
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead none of it is sand... its all DUST... yes... I recognized many times over that it is, infact dust... the Bible was the first to say "dust to dust, ashes to ashes".... I've recognized this. But it does not prove any sort of point because dust cannot realize itself until there is something else within it. Sand doesnt ever go, "why do you step on me?" but stepping on grandma laying on the beach would make her yelp.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Of course there is more to reality than the sub atomic dust, and that is called God, Spirit, Mind, Conciousness, Love, etc., but they are not made of dust. Nor is energy made of dust. These are the dust free and invisible Truths of Reality. Not everything that is Real is dust. Reality is not dust! Reality is merely playing with the dust. The dust does not really exist. Each particle is merely a shared idea imagined to be real, and it fools us into believing in time.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Actually... its scientifically proven through E=MC^2 that dust is made up of energy. The dust actually exists... you can touch it. And if we all are imagining it together, then its still real, thats what we call reality. You are not making any sound points.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Actually....by definition....energy is a force while matter is an object. Matter contains energy and energy needs matter to exist, but they are two different concepts married together.
Matter does not exist in ultimate Reality, nor does energy. The scientific fact that they do is merely a scientific fact and nothing more. Science is not Knowledge, and that's because science is not based on knowledge, but on assumptions. Space and time do not exist either.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Time is not a total illusion... things come to pass and you can't return to those.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy What is a "total illusion"? A hallucination?
Understanding eternity is not so easy. That there can only be creation without change is a difficult concept. That reality is without destruction may seem unimaginable. But this is Truth. Nothing changes in Reality and therefore there is no time. Time depends on change to exist, and nothing truly changes.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@PhilosopherManguy """ things come to pass and you can't return to those."""" Actually, only forms come and go, and no form lasts longer than a billionth of a second. Nothing else comes and goes. Only forms alter. So, what in the hell is a form? Are forms really real? How real is any form when it only exists for a nano second?
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy If you cling to the flesh you are clinging to death, for if you put your faith in the flesh as your life....you will sure believe you are dying. Why not just nail yourself to a cross? The flesh is a symbol of death. Without the flesh you cannot be crucified. This is why I relate the flesh to the cross. They are basically the same thing. They are torture devices and with them you will surely die...or believe you can. Embrace your Spirit and cast your body to the lions.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead Did you ignore everything I just wrote? How is dying for your faith clinging to your flesh? Why not nail myself to a cross? you completely misinterpret the importance. Jesus lived a life without sin... I cannot take away sin by going onto a cross. Also we aren't supposed to test God, and the Bible says patience is greater than winning a battle, and following God better than sacrifice.
Yes without flesh you cannot be crucified... thats why God took flesh.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy Jesus came in the flesh. Are you suggesting Jesus was dead before He came into the flesh? Do you not see the flesh did not give Jesus life? "It is the Spirit that gives Life, the flesh is of no avail." The flesh neither gives nor takes life. Life is of the Spirit and the Spirit is Life itself. You cannot be dead. You can only imagine you are dead by imagining the flesh gives you life. The truth is, we have no need for flesh. The flesh is merely dust. Lay it to rest and go Home
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead No I'm not suggesting that... but he did experience death.
Again, death is real, because sin is real.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy The Resurrection would teach you that TRUTH does not change. God does not change. God and Truth are Eternal and therefore unchanging....hence Bashar's first three laws of creation. The 4th law is BS for nothing God creates changes. Everything God creates is Eternal for it shares God's Name.
Forms change because God did not create forms. Reality is abstract, formless. Death is only seen in forms. The flesh is a form. Look beyond the skin of all things for Truth.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead God creates things to change... like the metamorphosis of caterpillars to butterflies. God created forms... he created life and the earth. Your points aren't making sense. You are trying to make the leap in logic that because God is truth and his nature doesn't change that other things also don't change... but that isn't true. We aren't in control.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
@PhilosopherManguy What God creates is eternal, and what is eternal is changeless, hence the first three laws of creation. God does not change, not do His creations. When you see change you are seeing something that is not real. God is formless and so is everything He creates. We are Spirit and Spirit is formless. Don't be fooled by forms. No form last more than a nano second. Do not look for Truth in nano seconds. Look for it in what is eternal.
1971SuperLead 11 months ago
@1971SuperLead That is not true... the entire Bible says that this world will not last, that mountains will be leveled and things will end. Things will be destroyed, they dont last forever. But he will make it all new.
Where do you come up with these assumptions? You just make it up because it sounds nice and fits how you WISH to believe. What you are doing is making characteristics up about God so that you are no longer accountable to what he ACTUALLY says.
PhilosopherManguy 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@PhilosopherManguy "All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter."— Max Planck
Matter is not The Life Force but a product of the Life Force.
We create matter. Matter did not create us.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy Who draws a line and says "It lives!" Who erases the line and says "Now it is dead!" Yet, this is what you say when you believe life turns to death. Life is not of forms. Life is of content. Matter and energy are eternal. Forms are not. Life is of energy, the forms are of no avail. There is no death, for forms neither live nor die. Life is in the clay, not is the sculpture. Your form may change, but you never die, for you are not a form, but what is inside the form. ENERGY!
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead You kidding me? Can a rock live? Who says matter and energy are eternal? Another assumption. How do you know life is of energy? Can you shock a rock into breathing? No amount of fire ever made a star breathe. And can you make a dead man come back again? Is energy self-realizing? No.. absolutely not. Not even an individual cell on us realizes itself.
Energy? what new age bull crap. Mysticism trying to sound spiritual.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@PhilosopherManguy There are no rocks. a rock is a form. Forms do not exist. They are merely illusions. Look closely at a rock. What is it but energy? EVERYTHING is energy. If everything is merely energy... it's all the same stuff. A rock is no different than a tree. Both are merely energy. It's a matrix my dear. It's all a dream made up of the same stuff. There are no differences in reality. Energy has no opposite. There is only one energy and it's not a form. It's formless.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead even if a soul was energy, WHICH IT IS NOT, but if it were, you still would have proven nothing. Every person is individual and unique and life dies, every tree in winter speaks the name of death. Don't tell me there is no death. Look at the world around us and the hatred and evil.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead ever heard of the second law of logic? it is called the law of non-contradiction. It means that you can't both be pregnant and NOT pregnant at the same time. Two opposing ideas can't both be true. Therefore, Jesus and what he says, cannot be true and your beliefs also be true. Do you even know what heaven is? You say I'm in it now. I'm apart of it now, but not in it just yet. Read the Bible and you will learn how absolutely ridiculous you sound.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@1971SuperLead ever heard of the second law of logic? it is called the law of non-contradiction. It means that you can't both be pregnant and NOT pregnant at the same time. Two opposing ideas can't both be true. Therefore, Jesus and what he says, cannot be true and your beliefs also be true. Do you even know what heaven is? You say I'm in it now. I'm apart of it now, but not in it just yet. Read the Bible and you will learn how absolutely ridiculous you sound.
PhilosopherManguy 1 year ago
I think for me it is easier to see food as neutral, as in chips=broccoli. the reason I say that is when I used to eat 'that stuff' before, I would feel bad and think and apply all the negativity associated with it. now I rarely do that! I eat what I want because it enhances my entire belief system... everything is equal, mansion=apartment, for ie, and my beliefs really do make things what they are. that includes food
007frogprincess 2 years ago
thanks Bashar! what about the agreement of building buildings...i guess its just easier to buy the materials and do a rebuild!
NoPainNoGain200 2 years ago
"You're the bomb dude."
I love that last comment hahaha
cisco2992 2 years ago 21
@cisco2992
He will turn into the bom if you repeat enough. .9 JK
MaBu888 1 year ago
"You are not what you eat, you are what you think",,Seth / Jane Roberts
buffedtrainer 2 years ago
@buffedtrainer exactly!!!
sarabuffalo1 1 year ago
What we believe is the key of our choices, if the belief if not aligned with the laws of the Dao, we are operating from a system of devious beliefs.
We need to be careful in choosing our beliefs systems. There is such a thing as being in the right when it comes to believing. If we are not in this critical zone, we will be called on it, one way or another at any given time by the laws that rule our existence.
cloecouturier 2 years ago
Comment removed
NoPainNoGain200 2 years ago
Comment removed
NoPainNoGain200 2 years ago
eating better food gets better and better and better! the agreement of gravity the agreement of healthy food the better it gets the better it gets. the path of least resistance! thanks for your posting!
NoPainNoGain200 2 years ago
Great! Thank you, I appreciate your videos!
innerbeing1983 2 years ago
The road creates the path, the traveler creates the journey...
PeaceProfit@Twitter
PeaceProfit 2 years ago 2