@nizaerodr Castro and Lynch (Guevara's real surname) killed anyone and everyone who disagreed with them--that includes pregnant women by a shot through the stomach. Read "Exposing the Real Che Guevara: And the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him."
It doesn't matter if you have high educational standards, but rather if you actually meet them. I don't know about Cuba, but the US has high standards, but they don't meet them, and we see what a disaster that is.
@CindyMR88 Che loved his people, or rather, the people of a country he grew to love. Which originally, were nothing but his far off cousins (As the misfortune of todays Latin society treats one another). Instead, he saw the Cubans, their heart, and their minds, as perhaps (and I dramatize this only slightly), as the first full fledged race of people to fight against this corporate giant. Hence the levels of poverty due to the lack of better-than-shit materials,
@CindyMR88 Even though the natural resources found on the island itself are rich and pure. Such as the sugar cane, unlike any other, and the tobacco, on the same boat of demand as well.
When the US attempted to slide in their way of the island, the sailors would demean the women, and were busy indulging in the state of "drunkeness", urinating on the statues and what not.
Point is, even since before Fidel, during Batista, the idea of having the US (and their history of not-so-good-affairs)
@CindyMR88 On their soil, exploiting the ability that they perform best, (Which would be new age imperialism, in which still today, no one has them beat on that skill), wasn't an idea that settled well with the huge focus on intelligence that the Cuban government had.
So, instead of being overrun, they simply stood against this giant, and in turn received the wrong end of the lance.
@CindyMR88 The US passively aggressively 'threatning' (and I use that term loosely), or rather indicating towards China (and a number of other nations), that any trade with Cuba will diminish any business plan with the US itself.
So in turn, once more. When your in it for the business and prosperity of your people, would you go ahead and do business with the most powerful country in the world (which is still $3 trillion in debt), or a little butt fuck island in the carribean. Think about it.
@CindyMR88 This was of course, during the Spanish and Cuban war for independence. No where on the map of the revolution that occurred nearing six decades ago.
Fidel today is an astounding asshole, and thats my unprofessionally biast opinion. Mostly because he did what every politician has done in this very country since the dawn of time (yet he's still gotten BEYOND levels of attention for it) :-
Promise the people something, and then deliver nearly the opposite when placed into office.
@CindyMR88 But Che, and I bid you, was never on that level. Neither was Fidel (At THAT time, don't know how he operates now specifically, so I can't say anything about the present), or Maceo, or Marcelo Salado, or any other great Cuban Revolutionary at the time.
But you tend to forget, that this WAS a revolution, it WAS a coup de'tat. In order to revolutionalize something that involves a frameset of government, no one in history has simply been able to just walk into office and say:
@CindyMR88 "Oh, excuse me sir, you're doing this all wrong. Please exit accordingly and step down from your position. Kthxbye." Unfortunately, in ALL previous revolutions, people die. One way or another. With clubs. With swords. With guns. Because if this country were to have fallen under the control of the Civil War, the Confederates wouldn't have called it "no damn Civil War". It would have been a revolution, with the assumption of its success.
@CindyMR88 So all in all. People have had to be killed. Cubans. The anti-revolutionaries. Just as would any opposing bigot in the white house, were the US to be suddenly succumbed into its own revolution. Same method.
But this hatred, because it is, such a very distasteful narrative based upon lies of what really occurred in the Cuban Revolution, is rather belittling people MORE into turning against their own heroes. For, of course, the benefit of a nation under blockade.
@CindyMR88 Because I DO hope you've familiarized yourself with "The Blockade", or rather, "El Bloqueo", occurring still.
Which, in sum, is the US pseudo-consciously badmouthing anything potential that comes out of Cuba. Outside from the Bacardi and the smokes of course, as well as the Cuban-American majority who reside in South Florida and are virtually all blinded republicans. Some even hating Obama now... literally based on no evidence but the belief of populace.
@CindyMR88 Which doesn't wish to cooperate with the US's terms of inevitable exploitation.
Either way, (I've been straying away from topic too much, I'm sorry :(,)
Before Fidel turned into a very questionable leader, IMO.
During the revolution, no such executions on pregnant women, or women in general, or other granted mentions of unecessary torture/deaths... were given by the revolutionaries. But rather, the officers of the Batistian government itself.
@CindyMR88 In light, I don't mean to defame your book's author in any offensive way. For perhaps maybe he/she was illinformed. Because I sure do remember talk of torture, but by the installed government at the time.
Where a famous female revolutionary had her brother kidnapped and tortured for information. Where they removed one of his eyes as a negotiation method to get her to speak.
And this is only because my father served in the military at the time. And he fought with them.
@CindyMR88 They assembled with other ambassadors (or representives of the different nations' embassies(sp?) . And he was actually removed from his place of office for attempting to print articles in the newspaper that spoke negatively about Fidels actions after the triumph of the revolution.
And I admire him for that. For in the end, doing, following, and acting upon what was right, despite the consequences.
And I don't think of myself as far off from that retrospect either... so... :)
@CindyMR88 I meant my father served in the revolution, not the Batistian government >_<;; My apologies for lack of specification.
Regardless, in the end, there is a reason that people (few) still idolize Che's ideals. Because he did what was right. And it may now only be the people who once fought alongside him, or their children that have listened to their stories.
Either way, Ernesto Che Guevara was never the monster that I keep seeing people word him as. It sucks but what can you do :/
@ CindyMR88-- So who did Fidel Castro and Che Guevara mass murder when they were setting out to create an independent Nation not dominated by the U.S? . and where today there are higher education standards than in the U.S?. the fact that you call people Latino is funny since we never called ourselved that brand name. WE have Nations and Identify ourselves as from which Nation.You'd be surprised to know that in ancient societies to be a Poet was the equivalent of a Doctor or a Lawyer today.
@nizaerodr Latinos don't call themselves Latinos? Seriously? The only "Latina" I know who doesn't refer to herself as Latina is Sandra Cisneros (author of the House on Mango Street). I'm Latina. I call myself that because I'm an American citizen and I was not born in the country of my parents. Everyone I know uses different names to identify themselves (Dominican, Puerto Rican, Ecuadorian etc) but they all use "Latino" as well.
@nizaerodr I also think poetry is a great art and have helped oversee spoken word events at my university. This was top notch quality really, I just don't agree with the message.
So the guy basically wants to destroy the US and admires anti-American mass murderers like Che Guevara and Fidel Castro.
Great, now all the youngsters back in my home barrio might listen to this, adopt a victim mentality, say "fuck college and trade school," and aspire to be a "Welfare" poet--no scratch that. They'll only aspire to actually be on welfare and steal money from the decent, hardworking Latinos out there.
@CindyMR88 Che, Fidel, The Welfare Poets, Immortel Technique and people like them are actually the reason why I really want to go to College! Its not wrong to be anti Imperialism! Viva Fidel! Great music guys, im serious!
That's right man, great to hear this sentiment from Raptor - there ain't nothing more dangerous to an empire than an educated populous. Go to college, go to grad school. get that PhD even if you want to.
Knowledge is power, a PhD tied with street knowledge and community action is explosive.
Wow Rayzer. That blew my mind like a sawn off shotgun. Seriously that was nothing short of incredible. That was some real revolutionary hip-hop. Thanks for including The AIM famila too. We'll definitely be getting this video out to as many people as possible because this is what people need to be listening to. You have no idea how much of an honor it will be for me to see you live. You are going to shake up the UK for sure.
yo man this is your best video for real
Keep it up
toquiktahandle 1 year ago
Crazy lyrics, very nice.
primetimelawtown 1 year ago
@nizaerodr Castro and Lynch (Guevara's real surname) killed anyone and everyone who disagreed with them--that includes pregnant women by a shot through the stomach. Read "Exposing the Real Che Guevara: And the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him."
It doesn't matter if you have high educational standards, but rather if you actually meet them. I don't know about Cuba, but the US has high standards, but they don't meet them, and we see what a disaster that is.
CindyMR88 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 Che loved his people, or rather, the people of a country he grew to love. Which originally, were nothing but his far off cousins (As the misfortune of todays Latin society treats one another). Instead, he saw the Cubans, their heart, and their minds, as perhaps (and I dramatize this only slightly), as the first full fledged race of people to fight against this corporate giant. Hence the levels of poverty due to the lack of better-than-shit materials,
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 Even though the natural resources found on the island itself are rich and pure. Such as the sugar cane, unlike any other, and the tobacco, on the same boat of demand as well.
When the US attempted to slide in their way of the island, the sailors would demean the women, and were busy indulging in the state of "drunkeness", urinating on the statues and what not.
Point is, even since before Fidel, during Batista, the idea of having the US (and their history of not-so-good-affairs)
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 On their soil, exploiting the ability that they perform best, (Which would be new age imperialism, in which still today, no one has them beat on that skill), wasn't an idea that settled well with the huge focus on intelligence that the Cuban government had.
So, instead of being overrun, they simply stood against this giant, and in turn received the wrong end of the lance.
In methods such as:
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 The US passively aggressively 'threatning' (and I use that term loosely), or rather indicating towards China (and a number of other nations), that any trade with Cuba will diminish any business plan with the US itself.
So in turn, once more. When your in it for the business and prosperity of your people, would you go ahead and do business with the most powerful country in the world (which is still $3 trillion in debt), or a little butt fuck island in the carribean. Think about it.
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 This was of course, during the Spanish and Cuban war for independence. No where on the map of the revolution that occurred nearing six decades ago.
Fidel today is an astounding asshole, and thats my unprofessionally biast opinion. Mostly because he did what every politician has done in this very country since the dawn of time (yet he's still gotten BEYOND levels of attention for it) :-
Promise the people something, and then deliver nearly the opposite when placed into office.
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 But Che, and I bid you, was never on that level. Neither was Fidel (At THAT time, don't know how he operates now specifically, so I can't say anything about the present), or Maceo, or Marcelo Salado, or any other great Cuban Revolutionary at the time.
But you tend to forget, that this WAS a revolution, it WAS a coup de'tat. In order to revolutionalize something that involves a frameset of government, no one in history has simply been able to just walk into office and say:
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 "Oh, excuse me sir, you're doing this all wrong. Please exit accordingly and step down from your position. Kthxbye." Unfortunately, in ALL previous revolutions, people die. One way or another. With clubs. With swords. With guns. Because if this country were to have fallen under the control of the Civil War, the Confederates wouldn't have called it "no damn Civil War". It would have been a revolution, with the assumption of its success.
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 So all in all. People have had to be killed. Cubans. The anti-revolutionaries. Just as would any opposing bigot in the white house, were the US to be suddenly succumbed into its own revolution. Same method.
But this hatred, because it is, such a very distasteful narrative based upon lies of what really occurred in the Cuban Revolution, is rather belittling people MORE into turning against their own heroes. For, of course, the benefit of a nation under blockade.
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 Because I DO hope you've familiarized yourself with "The Blockade", or rather, "El Bloqueo", occurring still.
Which, in sum, is the US pseudo-consciously badmouthing anything potential that comes out of Cuba. Outside from the Bacardi and the smokes of course, as well as the Cuban-American majority who reside in South Florida and are virtually all blinded republicans. Some even hating Obama now... literally based on no evidence but the belief of populace.
And Cuba herself,-
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 Which doesn't wish to cooperate with the US's terms of inevitable exploitation.
Either way, (I've been straying away from topic too much, I'm sorry :(,)
Before Fidel turned into a very questionable leader, IMO.
During the revolution, no such executions on pregnant women, or women in general, or other granted mentions of unecessary torture/deaths... were given by the revolutionaries. But rather, the officers of the Batistian government itself.
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 In light, I don't mean to defame your book's author in any offensive way. For perhaps maybe he/she was illinformed. Because I sure do remember talk of torture, but by the installed government at the time.
Where a famous female revolutionary had her brother kidnapped and tortured for information. Where they removed one of his eyes as a negotiation method to get her to speak.
And this is only because my father served in the military at the time. And he fought with them.
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 They assembled with other ambassadors (or representives of the different nations' embassies(sp?) . And he was actually removed from his place of office for attempting to print articles in the newspaper that spoke negatively about Fidels actions after the triumph of the revolution.
And I admire him for that. For in the end, doing, following, and acting upon what was right, despite the consequences.
And I don't think of myself as far off from that retrospect either... so... :)
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 I meant my father served in the revolution, not the Batistian government >_<;; My apologies for lack of specification.
Regardless, in the end, there is a reason that people (few) still idolize Che's ideals. Because he did what was right. And it may now only be the people who once fought alongside him, or their children that have listened to their stories.
Either way, Ernesto Che Guevara was never the monster that I keep seeing people word him as. It sucks but what can you do :/
TheDomitrix 1 year ago
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nizaerodr 1 year ago
@ CindyMR88-- So who did Fidel Castro and Che Guevara mass murder when they were setting out to create an independent Nation not dominated by the U.S? . and where today there are higher education standards than in the U.S?. the fact that you call people Latino is funny since we never called ourselved that brand name. WE have Nations and Identify ourselves as from which Nation.You'd be surprised to know that in ancient societies to be a Poet was the equivalent of a Doctor or a Lawyer today.
nizaerodr 1 year ago
@nizaerodr Latinos don't call themselves Latinos? Seriously? The only "Latina" I know who doesn't refer to herself as Latina is Sandra Cisneros (author of the House on Mango Street). I'm Latina. I call myself that because I'm an American citizen and I was not born in the country of my parents. Everyone I know uses different names to identify themselves (Dominican, Puerto Rican, Ecuadorian etc) but they all use "Latino" as well.
CindyMR88 1 year ago
@nizaerodr I also think poetry is a great art and have helped oversee spoken word events at my university. This was top notch quality really, I just don't agree with the message.
CindyMR88 1 year ago
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nizaerodr 1 year ago
So the guy basically wants to destroy the US and admires anti-American mass murderers like Che Guevara and Fidel Castro.
Great, now all the youngsters back in my home barrio might listen to this, adopt a victim mentality, say "fuck college and trade school," and aspire to be a "Welfare" poet--no scratch that. They'll only aspire to actually be on welfare and steal money from the decent, hardworking Latinos out there.
Great jobs, guys. Great job.
CindyMR88 1 year ago
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nizaerodr 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 -- Or is money and wealth your only standards by which you measure?
nizaerodr 1 year ago
@nizaerodr Money and wealth will fade away one day. It's foolish to use them to measure any standards. So no.
CindyMR88 1 year ago
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RaptorN1 1 year ago
@CindyMR88 Che, Fidel, The Welfare Poets, Immortel Technique and people like them are actually the reason why I really want to go to College! Its not wrong to be anti Imperialism! Viva Fidel! Great music guys, im serious!
RaptorN1 1 year ago
@RaptorN1
That's right man, great to hear this sentiment from Raptor - there ain't nothing more dangerous to an empire than an educated populous. Go to college, go to grad school. get that PhD even if you want to.
Knowledge is power, a PhD tied with street knowledge and community action is explosive.
valibal 1 year ago
Wow Rayzer. That blew my mind like a sawn off shotgun. Seriously that was nothing short of incredible. That was some real revolutionary hip-hop. Thanks for including The AIM famila too. We'll definitely be getting this video out to as many people as possible because this is what people need to be listening to. You have no idea how much of an honor it will be for me to see you live. You are going to shake up the UK for sure.
~AK47~
xTheAIMx 1 year ago