Fact - Gays accept only views that are positive for them only. Fact - *Anything* against gays is complained about and call ignorant and wrong. Can gays quit bitching about everything, people have opinions, im a soldier and i don't and won't approve gays in army or civilian world. Why i don't like it. My opinion. I heard what you all said this is what i had to say.
Gays shouldn't be able to join. Marriage is between a man and woman okay stop freaken bucking up the system!! And you gays need to stop putting" I'm so sad because they call me gay are they made a gay joke are I got beat up for being gay" if your going to enlist tough up and grow some freaken balls.!!!!
@100Dirtbike100 Balls I have. What you need to do is get over the fact that we aren't all like you. I did enlist, and I did get tough. Then I spoke out.
i half to ask why would any self respecting gay man or women wont to join the military any way? It is obviously a very homophobic institution and the usa despite what some may think is still a very a homophobic nation so why bother joining the army or staying with it? I find it quite silly that the so called gay community is throwing such a big stink over keeping gays in a homophobic organization to fight in bogus wars.
it makes no scenes if any of thes so called gay leaders had an ounce of senarity about bettring the life's of homosexuals in the usa they would be encourging outher homos to stay out of the army and thous all ready in to drop out. Let the breeders die in the money/oil wars as their pulling the shrapnel out of their asses and picking up their comrades body parts we should be at home drinking martinis,watching the golden girls and laughing at these easily led fools as they die in vain.
Obviously fruity looking and acting gaymouther telling it like it iththth. Give up fruitcakes. The more your protest the less likely you will NEVER get in the military. By your fruits we shall know them. These are the people who have parades of guys dressed like girls and acting up to disrupt good, decent straight society. So what happens if Brucey and Throckmorton get in the man's Army, if they get a law on their side? All sheeeite will break loose! Cross-dressing for starters. No kweerz!
@Glinkaism1 I think there is room for some clarification here. Cross-dressing is not a gay thing. Cross-dressers come from all genders and sexualities. Plenty of straight people cross dress. When I was in the military there was a drag contest on base one time, and another time there was a unit wide cross-dressing event for football (I did not participate in either of those events). There were plenty of pictures of prominent leaders in our unit dressed as the opposite sex after that game.
Whether it is right or wrong that we live in that kind of country is irrelevant to the fact that it is a reality. Also, gays are not the only people that are not allowed to serve in the military. I have a friend that wasn't allowed because he was green color blind. If you have a felony, you are denied, and if you didn't graduate high school, but got your GED, without college experience, you can no longer serve. I think there are much more who fit the latter, than gays that wish to serve.
@jbennett9109 The Army lets in people with criminal records. Color blind people can still serve in many jobs so long as color recognition isn't essential to their jobs. Your friend wouldn't have been allowed to be a pilot for example, but I do not believe he would be denied entry into service over it. I served with color blind individuals. People with GEDs are also allowed to serve. In fact the Army even has a program to help people get in who have neither a high school diploma nor GED.
@gaymilitaryman My friend who is color blind, I am not exactly sure if that was the specific reason why he was denied, but that was what he told me. And as far as their policies on the GED, I don't know if this is a new policy or not, but I was with my friend in the recruiter's office for the Army, and they told him that since he doesn't have a High School Diploma, and only a GED, he would need 48 college level credits to join. And depending on the felony they may let you in.
@jbennett9109 The army allows about 10% of its enlistees to have a GED, but due to the large number of people with GEDs wanting to enlist they may be encouraged to get college credit. This is because it will put them in the same category as high school graduates and increase their chances of being accepted. It is not impossible though to enlist with only a GED, but you will have to score very well on the ASVAB.
Also, the NY times ran a study on entry into our Armed Services, and they found that fewer than 3/10 people in the U.S. are qualified to serve. To put in perspective, that is almost 100 million people in the U.S. that they have deemed to be unqualified, and therefore, may not be allowed to join.
In regards to gays serving openly, my personal view is that we may soon need all we can get to fight for our country if things get worse, so they better solve this issue soon, and quit with the BS.
I understand the concept of why gays would want to serve in the military, but there are too many external factors that must be considered before it can be accomplished. Whether we like it or not, we live in a very masculine country, where men are raised to be manly, and women raised to be feminine. Gays serving openly would cause major disruption within the ranks of the military, as well as a huge number of sexual harrasment lawsuits, which would be used to discredit our military.
@jbennett9109 Gays already serve in the military. The problem is they can be discharged if found out. Gay service members have already proven they can do the job.
Gays will just be killed overseas. They will be put in harm's way on purpose if you force the issue oh well homosexuality kills and makes you a marked man. So if you tell anybody you gay will duspense with you via suicide missions and we will laugh when you die.
@ToxicOdiousOne Your statements are unfounded. You have no evidence to show that gays were not in the Civil or Revolutionary wars. What is your standard for "tough real armies"? Your arguments make you appear so uneducated that I should really feel sorry for you, but quite honestly I don't feel any pity for you at all.
@ToxicOdiousOne You said, "All the tough real armies don't employ queers" Many people would consider Israel to have one of the best Air Force militaries in the entire world, yet they allow both gay men and women to serve openly. And they don't seem to have any of the "moral" problems that many here say we would have if we allow gay men and women to serve openly. Actually, with the exception of a few, most of the western world allows gays to serve openly.
As an African American citizen and author, I am thrilled with this decision! This ruling is long overdue and corrects many of the horrible things (motivated by discrimination) done to same-gender-loving people for decades. Dr. King quoted a very familiar Biblical passage from Amos 5:24 that may have been the inspiration for this in this landmark decision: "But let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream. Thank God it did today!
@Warpath2198 This is not a social experiment. It is about people being sick of being brushed under the rug and treated without the dignity they deserve as human beings. This is about real people.
@gaymilitaryman I totally agree it's not a social experiment, it's the military your sexual preference should not matter. Thus don't ask don't fing tell!
@mattieoh Don't Ask Don't Tell is unreasonable, because you can't simply "not tell". In order to keep from telling you are forced to lie in many situations to keep from blowing your cover. This is not right. I was once warned to be careful just for being friends with someone who was obviously gay. This goes too far.
@gaymilitaryman So what you are saying is if you are homosexual you have to tell people your sexual preference or you are "in many cases" lying? Do you realize the "don't ask don't tell" policy practically protects you from art. 93 Articles of War and art. 125 UCMJ? As far as being told to be careful of being friends with someone who was "obviously gay", well I guess that does go to far, it's not a catching disease or anything... Is it?
@mattieoh No, I'm not saying you HAVE to tell, but from my experience when people work around each other all sorts of random conversations can come up. For example I once found myself in the middle of a conversation where someone made a statement about gays that I thought was not accurate. I interjected that I thought so, and the response was "How would you know? Are you gay?" Or when the topic of dating comes up and someone asks about your girlfriend. These things do come up.
Ok when im shooting at someone I don't want a guy feeling me up...thats all I'm saying its just fucking weird, gays idc about your equal rights, its fucking wrong and fucked up for that matter. Gays and lesbians are both fucked up....kill yourself or go str8. You don't deserve equal rights cause its too fucked up to think about.
Did anyone see obama's state of the union address when he mentioned he's gonna work to get the law changed concerning this? All the generals and lt.'s and higher up personnel were't happy. If gays do get to serve then there're gonna be given crap work by there're superiors.
Arming faggots and dykes with guns is a piss poor idea. Gays will either refuse to fight or get killed instantly. Lesbo sex scandals will only serve to undermine the military reputation. They will make our defenses weaker. Will dykes be fucking instead fighting? Will female embarrass everyone by having sex for promotions and then suing for rape or sexual harassment? We don't need or want diversity. We have orders. We want orders to be followed. Gays are far too lazy in their work ethic
@ToxicOdiousOne Most armies around the world prove you're completely wrong. It's just your sick little mind where these 'ideas' boil up. No roots in reality.
why is it an issue? when i walk in the room i dont announce that i love ethnic women? i dont have a parade called brazilian women lover pride parade. gay isnt a race or a religion. stop trying to make it that. its what gets you off. you dont see foot fetish parades, or furry marches- shut up
This is not an issue of importance right now. I believe gays should be able to fight for there country they love, but I strongly am against gay marriage because I live by the word of God. Marriage should be between a woman and a man. Not Joe and Billy.
Thank you for serving our Country GayMilitaryMan. I do hope that one day people can understand that Gay people should not be discriminated against. Until then may you find support needed to help liberate gay people from these narrow minded and judgemental people.
Gay people are still people, did some of you forget this? They have the same feelings and desires as others. Sexual preference does not change the basic make up of their being. I choose to associate myself with people of morals and compassion. Many gays have a great deal of morals and compassion because they are treated with none and therefore find strength within to exhibt that which they have been denied.
Wow, after reading this stuff I see that gay people sure have it rough. I am a straight female with Christian beliefs. I have many gay friends and as a Christian I do not believe it's my place to judge, it's God's place to that. If he sees that they did not live right then he will punish as necessary. I do not pretend to have such power as I am a servant. Instead I love them as my fellow man and only ask that they do not try to impose their lifestyle on me as I don't impose mine on them.
Exactly it wasnt forced upon you, you simply found tits attractive... just like homosexuals simply find the same sex attractive. People dont choose who or what they are attracted to, they simply become aware of it.
You are extremely ignorant if you think people choose their sexuality...
According to all major scientific bodies, homosexuality is not a mental disorder fyi.
You probably come from a country where they murder and torture people who are gay.... are you surprised that there arent gay people shouting about their sexuality in the street?
From your Profile you seem a classic case of woman-hating heterosexual disfunctional sexual psychopath....as a Clinical Psychiatrist for many years I would Section you as a danger to women and children...but..you know...you matter not a jot in your confused ramblings and diatribes against Gay Men....with luck you will marry a closet Lesbian serial man killer....we can only hope. :-)
LicentiousSlut You were born without compassion, fair mindedness and love, but that's ok, we homosexuals are happy for you to live - just stay away from us.
LicentiousSlut, you talk about decency, but you lack it yourself. Even your screen name demonstrates this. Your profile confirms it. Your comment here further paints you as ignorant in addition to being indecent. I'm sorry you are so bitter. Were you abused much as a child? You seem to have had a horrible life. I'm so sorry for you.
@gaymilitaryman if you were in the Air Force you of all people should know the Air Force holds integrity as a core value. An enlistment is a contract and you have to follow the rules of the Air Force regardless of your personal views. You may be a racist but guess what? You can't be openly racist or you will be thrown out. You may not like women, or certain type of religions, etc. but you have to put up with it. You are trying to defend a woman who violated her contract.
Dude no straight guy wants to share a room or a shower with a gay man. Its uncomfortable for the straight man. You fail to recognize the importance of comfort and desires for the straight community. Just cause you are gay doesnt mean the straight community should make special circumstances in an effort to produce what you would call equality, while at the same time produce anxiety in others. .
I usually lived in a situation where I had to share a bathroom with one other person. We called it having a sweet mate. My last sweet mate specifically asked me to be his sweet mate cause he knew I was a clean person. He was straight, and he knew that I was gay. It was not a problem. If someone is uncomfortable with whoever they share their space with they may switch places with someone so they can be more comfortable.
Just because you are insecure in your sexuality and worry about another man being attracted to you, doesn't mean the security of this country should be compromised.
I'd put you in a whole room of men who were attracted to you if it'd save my family from being blown up.
mrliver, rather then argue the point that I'm making. Which is that you wouldn't want men showering with women. Just as much as you wouldn't want openly homos showering with heteros. For the same reasons. The only arguments you have are your emotions.
Afraid? Right. That's what happens when you lose a debate. It's okay, anyone who thinks with there brain and not there emotions and reads this debate knows I owned you.
I'd say your argument is weak, but that's fine. It would help your case if you knew the difference between "there" and "their."
I don't mind you being openly heterosexual, so all things being equal you really shouldn't have a problem with my open homosexuality. If you do, that's your problem, not mine...or his.
You're right they do shower together without a problem right now, because there are no open homos. So no one knows who is what, and no one cares. once you start prancing around telling everyone your gay, that's when the problems occur. Just as you woudn't want women showering with men, you don't want men showering with gay men. You fail to see reality through your gay emotions. If you wanna be so open about being gay, find a new Job.
@nocount1 But they will dress like women if they get the right to get in a man's Army. They will protest the uniform and all hell will break loose because that is the way of the gay. They want to get rid of the decent straight world.
Would it be a good idea if women showered together with men? Of course not, so therefor it would be just as bad if openly gay men showered with straight men. It would be a distraction, and a disservice to everyone. You can't get beyond your gay emotions and think rationally in this situation. Straight men don't want to shower with you, you make most of them sick to there stomic. You need to accept that because that's the REALITY!
The reality is that you usually get privacy in the shower. Basic training is different, but during that time most people shut down sexually anyway because of all the stress. I know, I've been through it. The reality is that gay and straight men already shower together without problems.
first off if your going to make an argument spelling stomach right, secondly gays are serving in the military already, but thanks to DADT, they cant be open about their sexuality
if they don't condem your behavior then they do not obey the laws of christ and God to the best of there abilitys. Secondly, of course gays can't get pregnant, that's why it's sick behavior. Gay sex carriers desies easier then hetero sexual behavior. That fact of the matter is, it's bad to have women in mens barracks just as bad as it is to have gay men in barracks. Do you want to have gay platoons?
How about we let God be the judge and stop trying to take that responsibility upon ourselves. Do you read the Bible much? Why would I want to have gay platoons? Would I encourage segregation of that sort? No. It's good to work together with a variety of people. It provides balance to life.
It makes you a liar because you said that "We can all have a sex and still manage to do our job." That's just simply a lie. If a women gets pregnant how can she continue to do her job? SHE CAN'T. If there are a platoon of 45 men in a barrack, and let's just say for argument sake 10 out of those 45 men are openly homosexual, to say that is not a distraction to the rest of the platoon is just a lie. The majory if the U.S Military is Christian. You can't put the facts aside for your feelings
You say women will not be able to do their jobs because they will get pregnant. That rational does not cross over to gay people because gay sex never creates pregnancy. I'm going to need a better argument than that. Also, I knew many Christians in the military. My sexuality did not hinder our ability to work together in a professional environment. Please don't insult them by making them sound so bad.
You're just a stupid liar to set your agenda. Piss off with that B.S. Tell the navy that women sailors and men sailors don't have sex you twisted liar. Women get pregnant all the time in the navy. Stop Lieing you fool. You should be dischagred if you are not married and getting pregnant. SEX HAS CONSICUENCES!!! I don't want to train in combatives with you, or people like you. I don't want to touch people like you. you people are anti christ sodomites
I'm not lying. My "agenda" is truth. You speak with an unreasonable level of anger. Could you please calm down and reword your comment about the Navy from the third and fourth sentences of your last statement? I think if you chose your words more carefully it might make more sense. I don't yet understand how women getting pregnant in the Navy makes me a liar.
Anyone who supports open homesexuality in the military is a headcase. Here is why. Would you want women sleeping in the same barracks as men? No, because that would create distractions and potential for a man and women to have sex or do whatever. That same logic applys for two gay guys. THAT"S WHY YOU DON'T HAVE OPEN HOMOS in the ARMY!.
Where I was last stationed we had men and women living in rooms side by side with each other. Men and women in the military DO have sex with each other on a regular basis. It's crazy how in this strange new world we can all have sex and still manage to get our jobs done... Imagine that.
Hey Gaymilitaryman iversonx15 called you a "Fantastic Admireble Gay" :D , everytime i hear people say fag or fucking gay i just imagine that they said some thing nice ;) dont listen to what he says he's dumb , really i cant belive that people still live as cave men , and thinks like them .
Gays shouldn't be allowed in combat roles for the same reason women aren't, or shouldn't be. DISTRACTIONS. And anyone telling me that women/gays arent or wouldn't be distractions, needs to spend some time overseas and it will be clearly apparent!
Dude you are so right on that when me and my fellow troops are over seas in the middle of a fight I always wave my junk around so I can distract them from making sure my ass does not get shot it is so the thing to do urrrg (please note the sarcasm and if you can not see it please go get a diaper change before responding)
I don't know what I'll do if and when the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is removed except for show up to work in the uniform of the day. I feel it would be rough for a while afterwards because I feel that some authorative figures would try to get military members, who are open about being homosexuals, kicked out for something else.
i recently came out to a good majority of my coworkers and so far i haven't yet heard of any "breakdown in morale"... infact at my last shop i was the one with morale issues due to the fact that i always felt like i was hiding something from them
i pretty much equate the current UCMJ article as bad as a law that harbors racists and discriminators...
to my knowledge our society has advanced out of that phase... can't wait till i can be myself and do something i love
That's awesome, a major step in the right direction. DADT is a disturbing blip in the legacy of the Clinton administration and is one of the last bastions of government-sanctioned discrimination.
Possible compromise: apply DADT to everyone, straight and gay. Any open discussion about sex or sexuality becomes grounds for dismissal due to "hurting group cohesion." Not an ideal solution of course, but might be more palatable for those who are uncomfortable with homosexuality.
DADT was a step Clinton made to attempt to address discrimination against gays. He couldn't get support for anything more radical than what he put in, but, if it isn't stagnated, DADT could be used as a stepping stone, as some kind of grounds that the military is making movements towards equality for soldiers.
fair enough. Hopefully this federal court ruling will be another stepping stone in the DADT direction, the first of many toward full, open, official lgbt equality within the military.
The marine is probably just frustrated that you show more courage than him by standing up for what you believe in, when the only reason he joined is probably because he didn't want to flip burgers the rest of his life. Yeah, I know, ad hominem but whatever, people like that are the real reason gay policy is what it is in the military, otherwise gays would be allowed...just imagine Uncle Sam needs all the boots on the ground he can get. Go go force shaping!
That IS great news! I can imagine how much this means for you. Signs of progress!
reading that letter aloud would be great speaking practice! That is what is great about youtube, I need to get on it.
much love from a happy subscriber!
(ps: How is your relationship with your family progressing? I just came out last month at the age of 22 to my family so I am wondering about what the transition is like!!)
Yup, reading that letter IS great speaking practice.
You know... My family still doesn't think that it's okay for me to be gay, but in all honesty I feel much closer to them then I was before coming out. At least now I don't have the nagging feeling of them not really knowing me.
Wow, that's awesome news. She sounds like a hero and they treat her this way...it is a disgrace. Hopefully it is the beginning of the end for this ridiculous policy. Keep fighting for what you believe in...you have my admiration and respect...and thanks your vids.
Fact - Gays accept only views that are positive for them only. Fact - *Anything* against gays is complained about and call ignorant and wrong. Can gays quit bitching about everything, people have opinions, im a soldier and i don't and won't approve gays in army or civilian world. Why i don't like it. My opinion. I heard what you all said this is what i had to say.
vance282 3 months ago
@vance282 It is perfectly normal for people to defend themselves.
gaymilitaryman 3 months ago
Gays shouldn't be able to join. Marriage is between a man and woman okay stop freaken bucking up the system!! And you gays need to stop putting" I'm so sad because they call me gay are they made a gay joke are I got beat up for being gay" if your going to enlist tough up and grow some freaken balls.!!!!
100Dirtbike100 9 months ago
@100Dirtbike100 Balls I have. What you need to do is get over the fact that we aren't all like you. I did enlist, and I did get tough. Then I spoke out.
gaymilitaryman 9 months ago
Johan...this isn't your best look...
PolarBearBtm 10 months ago
i half to ask why would any self respecting gay man or women wont to join the military any way? It is obviously a very homophobic institution and the usa despite what some may think is still a very a homophobic nation so why bother joining the army or staying with it? I find it quite silly that the so called gay community is throwing such a big stink over keeping gays in a homophobic organization to fight in bogus wars.
Docthal010 1 year ago
it makes no scenes if any of thes so called gay leaders had an ounce of senarity about bettring the life's of homosexuals in the usa they would be encourging outher homos to stay out of the army and thous all ready in to drop out. Let the breeders die in the money/oil wars as their pulling the shrapnel out of their asses and picking up their comrades body parts we should be at home drinking martinis,watching the golden girls and laughing at these easily led fools as they die in vain.
Docthal010 1 year ago
if u wanna be gay in the military then go ahead go for it and grab that enemy booty
slayerplayer79 1 year ago
Obviously fruity looking and acting gaymouther telling it like it iththth. Give up fruitcakes. The more your protest the less likely you will NEVER get in the military. By your fruits we shall know them. These are the people who have parades of guys dressed like girls and acting up to disrupt good, decent straight society. So what happens if Brucey and Throckmorton get in the man's Army, if they get a law on their side? All sheeeite will break loose! Cross-dressing for starters. No kweerz!
Glinkaism1 1 year ago
@Glinkaism1 I think there is room for some clarification here. Cross-dressing is not a gay thing. Cross-dressers come from all genders and sexualities. Plenty of straight people cross dress. When I was in the military there was a drag contest on base one time, and another time there was a unit wide cross-dressing event for football (I did not participate in either of those events). There were plenty of pictures of prominent leaders in our unit dressed as the opposite sex after that game.
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
Whether it is right or wrong that we live in that kind of country is irrelevant to the fact that it is a reality. Also, gays are not the only people that are not allowed to serve in the military. I have a friend that wasn't allowed because he was green color blind. If you have a felony, you are denied, and if you didn't graduate high school, but got your GED, without college experience, you can no longer serve. I think there are much more who fit the latter, than gays that wish to serve.
jbennett9109 1 year ago
@jbennett9109 The Army lets in people with criminal records. Color blind people can still serve in many jobs so long as color recognition isn't essential to their jobs. Your friend wouldn't have been allowed to be a pilot for example, but I do not believe he would be denied entry into service over it. I served with color blind individuals. People with GEDs are also allowed to serve. In fact the Army even has a program to help people get in who have neither a high school diploma nor GED.
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
@gaymilitaryman My friend who is color blind, I am not exactly sure if that was the specific reason why he was denied, but that was what he told me. And as far as their policies on the GED, I don't know if this is a new policy or not, but I was with my friend in the recruiter's office for the Army, and they told him that since he doesn't have a High School Diploma, and only a GED, he would need 48 college level credits to join. And depending on the felony they may let you in.
jbennett9109 1 year ago
@jbennett9109 The army allows about 10% of its enlistees to have a GED, but due to the large number of people with GEDs wanting to enlist they may be encouraged to get college credit. This is because it will put them in the same category as high school graduates and increase their chances of being accepted. It is not impossible though to enlist with only a GED, but you will have to score very well on the ASVAB.
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
Also, the NY times ran a study on entry into our Armed Services, and they found that fewer than 3/10 people in the U.S. are qualified to serve. To put in perspective, that is almost 100 million people in the U.S. that they have deemed to be unqualified, and therefore, may not be allowed to join.
In regards to gays serving openly, my personal view is that we may soon need all we can get to fight for our country if things get worse, so they better solve this issue soon, and quit with the BS.
jbennett9109 1 year ago
I understand the concept of why gays would want to serve in the military, but there are too many external factors that must be considered before it can be accomplished. Whether we like it or not, we live in a very masculine country, where men are raised to be manly, and women raised to be feminine. Gays serving openly would cause major disruption within the ranks of the military, as well as a huge number of sexual harrasment lawsuits, which would be used to discredit our military.
jbennett9109 1 year ago
@jbennett9109 Gays already serve in the military. The problem is they can be discharged if found out. Gay service members have already proven they can do the job.
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
@gaymilitaryman Kick out the kweers! No fighting fairies.
Glinkaism1 1 year ago
@Glinkaism1 You're kind of a spunky one aren't you? :)
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
Gays will just be killed overseas. They will be put in harm's way on purpose if you force the issue oh well homosexuality kills and makes you a marked man. So if you tell anybody you gay will duspense with you via suicide missions and we will laugh when you die.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
@ToxicOdiousOne You are a sick and ungodly man. Gays killed in war only shows that war kills, not homosexuality. I feel sorry for your family.
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
All the tough real armies don't employ queers. Iran for example. There were no ueers in the Civil War or the Revolutionary Wars.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
@ToxicOdiousOne Your statements are unfounded. You have no evidence to show that gays were not in the Civil or Revolutionary wars. What is your standard for "tough real armies"? Your arguments make you appear so uneducated that I should really feel sorry for you, but quite honestly I don't feel any pity for you at all.
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
@ToxicOdiousOne You said, "All the tough real armies don't employ queers" Many people would consider Israel to have one of the best Air Force militaries in the entire world, yet they allow both gay men and women to serve openly. And they don't seem to have any of the "moral" problems that many here say we would have if we allow gay men and women to serve openly. Actually, with the exception of a few, most of the western world allows gays to serve openly.
jbennett9109 1 year ago
As long as you are doing your job, I could give a shit less if you're gay.
rushnut1958 1 year ago
As an African American citizen and author, I am thrilled with this decision! This ruling is long overdue and corrects many of the horrible things (motivated by discrimination) done to same-gender-loving people for decades. Dr. King quoted a very familiar Biblical passage from Amos 5:24 that may have been the inspiration for this in this landmark decision: "But let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream. Thank God it did today!
Angel Mason, Global Author
ALOVEBALLAD 1 year ago
@ALOVEBALLAD its great to see how civilians so easily accept injected social experiments into the military.
Warpath2198 1 year ago
@Warpath2198 This is not a social experiment. It is about people being sick of being brushed under the rug and treated without the dignity they deserve as human beings. This is about real people.
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
@gaymilitaryman I totally agree it's not a social experiment, it's the military your sexual preference should not matter. Thus don't ask don't fing tell!
mattieoh 1 year ago
@mattieoh Don't Ask Don't Tell is unreasonable, because you can't simply "not tell". In order to keep from telling you are forced to lie in many situations to keep from blowing your cover. This is not right. I was once warned to be careful just for being friends with someone who was obviously gay. This goes too far.
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
@gaymilitaryman So what you are saying is if you are homosexual you have to tell people your sexual preference or you are "in many cases" lying? Do you realize the "don't ask don't tell" policy practically protects you from art. 93 Articles of War and art. 125 UCMJ? As far as being told to be careful of being friends with someone who was "obviously gay", well I guess that does go to far, it's not a catching disease or anything... Is it?
mattieoh 1 year ago
@mattieoh No, I'm not saying you HAVE to tell, but from my experience when people work around each other all sorts of random conversations can come up. For example I once found myself in the middle of a conversation where someone made a statement about gays that I thought was not accurate. I interjected that I thought so, and the response was "How would you know? Are you gay?" Or when the topic of dating comes up and someone asks about your girlfriend. These things do come up.
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
Ok when im shooting at someone I don't want a guy feeling me up...thats all I'm saying its just fucking weird, gays idc about your equal rights, its fucking wrong and fucked up for that matter. Gays and lesbians are both fucked up....kill yourself or go str8. You don't deserve equal rights cause its too fucked up to think about.
D3MENT1A09 1 year ago
@D3MENT1A09 Gays exist inside and outside of the military. They're probably not going to feel you up... ever.
gaymilitaryman 1 year ago
Did anyone see obama's state of the union address when he mentioned he's gonna work to get the law changed concerning this? All the generals and lt.'s and higher up personnel were't happy. If gays do get to serve then there're gonna be given crap work by there're superiors.
ayu67 2 years ago
Arming faggots and dykes with guns is a piss poor idea. Gays will either refuse to fight or get killed instantly. Lesbo sex scandals will only serve to undermine the military reputation. They will make our defenses weaker. Will dykes be fucking instead fighting? Will female embarrass everyone by having sex for promotions and then suing for rape or sexual harassment? We don't need or want diversity. We have orders. We want orders to be followed. Gays are far too lazy in their work ethic
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne Most armies around the world prove you're completely wrong. It's just your sick little mind where these 'ideas' boil up. No roots in reality.
knetterrrr 1 year ago
why is it an issue? when i walk in the room i dont announce that i love ethnic women? i dont have a parade called brazilian women lover pride parade. gay isnt a race or a religion. stop trying to make it that. its what gets you off. you dont see foot fetish parades, or furry marches- shut up
gojugarrett 2 years ago
This is not an issue of importance right now. I believe gays should be able to fight for there country they love, but I strongly am against gay marriage because I live by the word of God. Marriage should be between a woman and a man. Not Joe and Billy.
God Bless all Americans and God Bless America!
JoshWrightProduction 2 years ago
Meant that stupid Marine!
(Correction here)....Thanks poster!
MrHydra19 2 years ago
As a military officer in the Army (medical)..I agree with the initial poster....and that stupid (using it much judicious).....he should get a life!
Thanks to all Vets. of all color and creed!
MrHydra19 2 years ago
Thank you for serving our Country GayMilitaryMan. I do hope that one day people can understand that Gay people should not be discriminated against. Until then may you find support needed to help liberate gay people from these narrow minded and judgemental people.
Sherakicksass 2 years ago
Gay people are still people, did some of you forget this? They have the same feelings and desires as others. Sexual preference does not change the basic make up of their being. I choose to associate myself with people of morals and compassion. Many gays have a great deal of morals and compassion because they are treated with none and therefore find strength within to exhibt that which they have been denied.
Sherakicksass 2 years ago
Wow, after reading this stuff I see that gay people sure have it rough. I am a straight female with Christian beliefs. I have many gay friends and as a Christian I do not believe it's my place to judge, it's God's place to that. If he sees that they did not live right then he will punish as necessary. I do not pretend to have such power as I am a servant. Instead I love them as my fellow man and only ask that they do not try to impose their lifestyle on me as I don't impose mine on them.
Sherakicksass 2 years ago
In a way you are correct. But aren't you glad that, even though evolution is a fact, that we don't rule our societies by Darwinian selection?
Even though evolution is a fact, that doesn't mean we run our society upon Darwinian principles.
Havenfall 2 years ago
let the gays serve they can die disarming carbombs
bloodystephen920 2 years ago
cos you totally own this country
with all your trillions of dollars
fuckoff
whitekracka 2 years ago
Thats right!
centerearth 2 years ago
Start your Gay Army Yeaaa!
centerearth 2 years ago
Exactly it wasnt forced upon you, you simply found tits attractive... just like homosexuals simply find the same sex attractive. People dont choose who or what they are attracted to, they simply become aware of it.
You are extremely ignorant if you think people choose their sexuality...
According to all major scientific bodies, homosexuality is not a mental disorder fyi.
Jamieishere1 2 years ago
Nobody is asking you to.
Jamieishere1 2 years ago
You probably come from a country where they murder and torture people who are gay.... are you surprised that there arent gay people shouting about their sexuality in the street?
Jamieishere1 2 years ago
From your Profile you seem a classic case of woman-hating heterosexual disfunctional sexual psychopath....as a Clinical Psychiatrist for many years I would Section you as a danger to women and children...but..you know...you matter not a jot in your confused ramblings and diatribes against Gay Men....with luck you will marry a closet Lesbian serial man killer....we can only hope. :-)
macbrack 2 years ago
LicentiousSlut You were born without compassion, fair mindedness and love, but that's ok, we homosexuals are happy for you to live - just stay away from us.
mensskintightlowrise 2 years ago
"birth defect" ok maybe
disease is a no
if sexuality is a choice when did you choose to be straight
idaman12345 2 years ago
why because they were born gay and homosexuality is not a disease
idaman12345 2 years ago
believe whatever you want whatever helps you sleep at night
while ill believe the truth
idaman12345 2 years ago
dont be a pedophile enabler, aka republican
idaman12345 2 years ago
right because gays and lesbians recruit homosexuals, lol
gays are born that way and should be able to defend their country
idaman12345 2 years ago
LicentiousSlut, you talk about decency, but you lack it yourself. Even your screen name demonstrates this. Your profile confirms it. Your comment here further paints you as ignorant in addition to being indecent. I'm sorry you are so bitter. Were you abused much as a child? You seem to have had a horrible life. I'm so sorry for you.
gaymilitaryman 2 years ago
@gaymilitaryman if you were in the Air Force you of all people should know the Air Force holds integrity as a core value. An enlistment is a contract and you have to follow the rules of the Air Force regardless of your personal views. You may be a racist but guess what? You can't be openly racist or you will be thrown out. You may not like women, or certain type of religions, etc. but you have to put up with it. You are trying to defend a woman who violated her contract.
Warpath2198 1 year ago
homosexuals are gay
bigdogsdontbark 2 years ago
If straight soldiers are frightened of gays, then we're in major trouble if a real enemy shows up.
mensskintightlowrise 2 years ago
Dude no straight guy wants to share a room or a shower with a gay man. Its uncomfortable for the straight man. You fail to recognize the importance of comfort and desires for the straight community. Just cause you are gay doesnt mean the straight community should make special circumstances in an effort to produce what you would call equality, while at the same time produce anxiety in others. .
dfulton86 2 years ago
I usually lived in a situation where I had to share a bathroom with one other person. We called it having a sweet mate. My last sweet mate specifically asked me to be his sweet mate cause he knew I was a clean person. He was straight, and he knew that I was gay. It was not a problem. If someone is uncomfortable with whoever they share their space with they may switch places with someone so they can be more comfortable.
gaymilitaryman 2 years ago
hahaha a piss mate, i hated finding pubes in the shower. take it easy man.
taans1 2 years ago
Just because you are insecure in your sexuality and worry about another man being attracted to you, doesn't mean the security of this country should be compromised.
I'd put you in a whole room of men who were attracted to you if it'd save my family from being blown up.
SepherStar 2 years ago
mrliver, rather then argue the point that I'm making. Which is that you wouldn't want men showering with women. Just as much as you wouldn't want openly homos showering with heteros. For the same reasons. The only arguments you have are your emotions.
IslandersMets10 3 years ago
There are gays and lesbians in the military currently serving and fighting overseas. The entire 'gay man in the shower' thing is a bit immature.
Australian and British military forces have had homosexuals serving openly for years. They seem professional enough to handle it.
bluepicka74 2 years ago
Afraid? Right. That's what happens when you lose a debate. It's okay, anyone who thinks with there brain and not there emotions and reads this debate knows I owned you.
IslandersMets10 3 years ago
I'd say your argument is weak, but that's fine. It would help your case if you knew the difference between "there" and "their."
I don't mind you being openly heterosexual, so all things being equal you really shouldn't have a problem with my open homosexuality. If you do, that's your problem, not mine...or his.
myliverwurst 3 years ago
You're right they do shower together without a problem right now, because there are no open homos. So no one knows who is what, and no one cares. once you start prancing around telling everyone your gay, that's when the problems occur. Just as you woudn't want women showering with men, you don't want men showering with gay men. You fail to see reality through your gay emotions. If you wanna be so open about being gay, find a new Job.
IslandersMets10 3 years ago
Thanks for taking the time to share your opinions with me. I'm sorry you're afraid of gay people.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
NEWS FLASH:
Gay men aren't women
nocount1 2 years ago 2
@nocount1 But they will dress like women if they get the right to get in a man's Army. They will protest the uniform and all hell will break loose because that is the way of the gay. They want to get rid of the decent straight world.
Glinkaism1 1 year ago
Would it be a good idea if women showered together with men? Of course not, so therefor it would be just as bad if openly gay men showered with straight men. It would be a distraction, and a disservice to everyone. You can't get beyond your gay emotions and think rationally in this situation. Straight men don't want to shower with you, you make most of them sick to there stomic. You need to accept that because that's the REALITY!
IslandersMets10 3 years ago
The reality is that you usually get privacy in the shower. Basic training is different, but during that time most people shut down sexually anyway because of all the stress. I know, I've been through it. The reality is that gay and straight men already shower together without problems.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
first off if your going to make an argument spelling stomach right, secondly gays are serving in the military already, but thanks to DADT, they cant be open about their sexuality
idaman12345 2 years ago
if they don't condem your behavior then they do not obey the laws of christ and God to the best of there abilitys. Secondly, of course gays can't get pregnant, that's why it's sick behavior. Gay sex carriers desies easier then hetero sexual behavior. That fact of the matter is, it's bad to have women in mens barracks just as bad as it is to have gay men in barracks. Do you want to have gay platoons?
IslandersMets10 3 years ago
How about we let God be the judge and stop trying to take that responsibility upon ourselves. Do you read the Bible much? Why would I want to have gay platoons? Would I encourage segregation of that sort? No. It's good to work together with a variety of people. It provides balance to life.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
actually gay sex and hetero sex give the same opportunity to get disease
idaman12345 2 years ago
It makes you a liar because you said that "We can all have a sex and still manage to do our job." That's just simply a lie. If a women gets pregnant how can she continue to do her job? SHE CAN'T. If there are a platoon of 45 men in a barrack, and let's just say for argument sake 10 out of those 45 men are openly homosexual, to say that is not a distraction to the rest of the platoon is just a lie. The majory if the U.S Military is Christian. You can't put the facts aside for your feelings
IslandersMets10 3 years ago
You say women will not be able to do their jobs because they will get pregnant. That rational does not cross over to gay people because gay sex never creates pregnancy. I'm going to need a better argument than that. Also, I knew many Christians in the military. My sexuality did not hinder our ability to work together in a professional environment. Please don't insult them by making them sound so bad.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
You're just a stupid liar to set your agenda. Piss off with that B.S. Tell the navy that women sailors and men sailors don't have sex you twisted liar. Women get pregnant all the time in the navy. Stop Lieing you fool. You should be dischagred if you are not married and getting pregnant. SEX HAS CONSICUENCES!!! I don't want to train in combatives with you, or people like you. I don't want to touch people like you. you people are anti christ sodomites
IslandersMets10 3 years ago
I'm not lying. My "agenda" is truth. You speak with an unreasonable level of anger. Could you please calm down and reword your comment about the Navy from the third and fourth sentences of your last statement? I think if you chose your words more carefully it might make more sense. I don't yet understand how women getting pregnant in the Navy makes me a liar.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
"I don't want to train in combatives with you, or people like you. I don't want to touch people like you"
You already have, and I bet you were good buddies (platonic) with some of those guys.
SepherStar 2 years ago
Anyone who supports open homesexuality in the military is a headcase. Here is why. Would you want women sleeping in the same barracks as men? No, because that would create distractions and potential for a man and women to have sex or do whatever. That same logic applys for two gay guys. THAT"S WHY YOU DON'T HAVE OPEN HOMOS in the ARMY!.
IslandersMets10 3 years ago
Where I was last stationed we had men and women living in rooms side by side with each other. Men and women in the military DO have sex with each other on a regular basis. It's crazy how in this strange new world we can all have sex and still manage to get our jobs done... Imagine that.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
no why we dont have open homosexuals in the army is because of backwards thinking people such as yourself
last i checked gay men are not women so that argument is not valid
idaman12345 2 years ago
you quif, I don't want to train in combatives with a queer. Get out of here you sissy. 11b BRAVO ALL DAY!!!!! JUST SHUT UP IF YOUR GAY!!!
IslandersMets10 3 years ago
well maybe a gay person doesnt want to be near a narrow minded bigot such as yourself?
idaman12345 2 years ago
Hey Gaymilitaryman iversonx15 called you a "Fantastic Admireble Gay" :D , everytime i hear people say fag or fucking gay i just imagine that they said some thing nice ;) dont listen to what he says he's dumb , really i cant belive that people still live as cave men , and thinks like them .
CherishYaoi 3 years ago
FAG!!!!!
Iversonx15 3 years ago
Gays shouldn't be allowed in combat roles for the same reason women aren't, or shouldn't be. DISTRACTIONS. And anyone telling me that women/gays arent or wouldn't be distractions, needs to spend some time overseas and it will be clearly apparent!
kumi0702 3 years ago
My experiences have taught me otherwise. Sorry.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
Dude you are so right on that when me and my fellow troops are over seas in the middle of a fight I always wave my junk around so I can distract them from making sure my ass does not get shot it is so the thing to do urrrg (please note the sarcasm and if you can not see it please go get a diaper change before responding)
groovynes 3 years ago
thats the equivalent of pre-civil rights era soldiers saying that blacks are a distraction in combat and should not be allow in the field
xShadowDawnx 3 years ago
Are you planning on serving?
mfrantom 3 years ago
I have been serving for almost 4 and a half years.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
Thank you for your service.
MystikWizard 3 years ago
I'm glad to have had the opportunity. Even if only for a time...
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
I don't know what I'll do if and when the "don't ask, don't tell" policy is removed except for show up to work in the uniform of the day. I feel it would be rough for a while afterwards because I feel that some authorative figures would try to get military members, who are open about being homosexuals, kicked out for something else.
Peace and Blessings!!!
hmpruneda 3 years ago
that's great news!
gueerfucker 3 years ago
Freedom from discrimination for those who serve to protect the freedoms of our country. Why didn't they think of this sooner?
amtrak1970 3 years ago
It's about time!
amiga33801 3 years ago
Excellent news! One more step to ending bigotry.
ThalysPBKA 3 years ago
omg.......That's the ugliest hair cut I've seen!!!
SexxyEmilys 3 years ago 7
awesome!!!
i recently came out to a good majority of my coworkers and so far i haven't yet heard of any "breakdown in morale"... infact at my last shop i was the one with morale issues due to the fact that i always felt like i was hiding something from them
i pretty much equate the current UCMJ article as bad as a law that harbors racists and discriminators...
to my knowledge our society has advanced out of that phase... can't wait till i can be myself and do something i love
chugalicious 3 years ago
Brilliant and long overdue.
mensskintightlowrise 3 years ago
That's awesome, a major step in the right direction. DADT is a disturbing blip in the legacy of the Clinton administration and is one of the last bastions of government-sanctioned discrimination.
Possible compromise: apply DADT to everyone, straight and gay. Any open discussion about sex or sexuality becomes grounds for dismissal due to "hurting group cohesion." Not an ideal solution of course, but might be more palatable for those who are uncomfortable with homosexuality.
blackfractal 3 years ago
DADT was a step Clinton made to attempt to address discrimination against gays. He couldn't get support for anything more radical than what he put in, but, if it isn't stagnated, DADT could be used as a stepping stone, as some kind of grounds that the military is making movements towards equality for soldiers.
EclipsedExistence 3 years ago
fair enough. Hopefully this federal court ruling will be another stepping stone in the DADT direction, the first of many toward full, open, official lgbt equality within the military.
blackfractal 3 years ago
SWEET!
Emilythecrazy 3 years ago
Dude, I pray for you, and for your family, often. It was so good to see you smile at the end of the video.
DickBreath 3 years ago
Thank you.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
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is this guy a bottom?
sphumi 3 years ago
"This guy" happens to be me, and the answer to your question is not relevant to the issue at hand.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
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I know. you remind me of a friend who is a power bottom. u r :p
sphumi 3 years ago
this is fantastic!! :-)
...and veeery good timing :-) i think someone's looking down kindly on you :-) that bastard who's trying to report u... too bad for him!
Sikosm 3 years ago 3
That is good news. It's about time.
EternalSSA 3 years ago 2
The marine is probably just frustrated that you show more courage than him by standing up for what you believe in, when the only reason he joined is probably because he didn't want to flip burgers the rest of his life. Yeah, I know, ad hominem but whatever, people like that are the real reason gay policy is what it is in the military, otherwise gays would be allowed...just imagine Uncle Sam needs all the boots on the ground he can get. Go go force shaping!
illumined1 3 years ago 5
That IS great news! I can imagine how much this means for you. Signs of progress!
reading that letter aloud would be great speaking practice! That is what is great about youtube, I need to get on it.
much love from a happy subscriber!
(ps: How is your relationship with your family progressing? I just came out last month at the age of 22 to my family so I am wondering about what the transition is like!!)
tanncou 3 years ago 3
Yup, reading that letter IS great speaking practice.
You know... My family still doesn't think that it's okay for me to be gay, but in all honesty I feel much closer to them then I was before coming out. At least now I don't have the nagging feeling of them not really knowing me.
gaymilitaryman 3 years ago
Thanks for the info. I agree. Great information, and fantastic smile you have at the end! :) Rob Hall, Austin, Texas (Openly Gay Police Officer)
txjockcop 3 years ago 4
Great video and great smile at the end,thanks for sharing man.
jbg42 3 years ago 3
that last bit should read thanks FOR your vids.
s2112023 3 years ago
Wow, that's awesome news. She sounds like a hero and they treat her this way...it is a disgrace. Hopefully it is the beginning of the end for this ridiculous policy. Keep fighting for what you believe in...you have my admiration and respect...and thanks your vids.
s2112023 3 years ago 3
I hadn't heard about this. Great news, thanks for posting.
brouhajoe 3 years ago 2