Does a US troop withdrawal mean victory for the Taliban?

[68noraa]

Zionist Israel wants to be the next super power and ruling state of the world with the impending collapse of USA financially and militarily...

Talibans are here to stay and a force to be reckon with...

[carlobari60]

Russia got out of Afghanistan also. We have no right in occupying soverign territory. Their problem, their solutions. It is right to get out. It is our leadership that understands that. If Republicans buy the Presidency we will not only be back in the old wars but new wars will be started around the globe. They need to be marginalized and crushed. They are wealthy, ignorant elites that are out of touch with the direction of the world.

[ljwoolley1]

We, the US citizens happen to be people, just like you. I feel sorry for you that you can hate us for what our government does. What a shame!!! I guess this is what is wrong with the world. There is sooooooooooooo much hate!!!!

[MrHangbush]

well well well America got your arses handed to u once again LOL, I thought you guys learnt your lesson in Vietnam.

[RevolucionSonika]

Where's my HD?

[DaRaginAUSSIE]

@stinkystu1 If I could vote, I would vote for you but that would be sending you to a certain death with the way politics are these days.

I feel like you would have a lot of support.

What do you mean war on crime though? Would you have a new taskforce for dealing with all kinds of crime? Or just violent or drug related?

[RawyAlHakayet]

@hhhaaa68 Check your facts again buddy, the Soviets won WWII actually

[zerocool155]

@RawyAlHakayet not the pacific. Soviets were first into berlin...

[ltmikepowell]

All conflict got a political ends for better or for worse. But U.S. FAILED to do so when they got their chance.

So, sorry folks. Tough luck.

[Scarramanga]

USA, UK AND ISRAEL ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH! TALIBAN AND AL-QAEDA IS RUN BY CIA AND THE WARS ARE PUSHED BY THE BANKING SYSTEM!

[Heathenandproud]

Did anyone catch the characterization of the Soviets leaving "with their heads held high" at 1:10? Uh, no they didn't. The Afghan war was extremely unpopular in the USSR and some argue the defeat lead to their ultimate downfall. I love RT, but it just reminded me that this is actually a Russia Times broadcast and we all need to get our news from many sourcess. The U.S will not be leaving with their heads held high either, and I am sure RT will be pointing that out.

[planet4allofus]

The Taliban have a secret deal with the US , Afghanistan gets fertilizer to grow their poppy crop with the heroine traffic being supported by the US government.

This is just a "soft" retreat by the US to save face.

The US knows there is no way you can win a war against gorilla warfare .

You'll never know your enemy , there are no uniforms.

Don't ever think an oil pipeline in Afghanistan will be safe as this is the main reason for this conflict.

Oil , the never ending story.

[BootyFister]

I WANNA FIST LIZ'S BOOTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaRaginAUSSIE]

@stinkystu1Totally! Reform the old and corrupt system in Washington. Common people like you and me need to run for office!

I just can't be president lol.

[stinkystu1]

@DaRaginAUSSIE I would be assassinated if I ran for office. The first thing I would do is dismantle the DEA. The war on drugs is just a way for the elite to launder our tax money and pocket it. We should stop the war on drugs and declare war on crime.

[DaRaginAUSSIE]

@stinkystu1 I agree. Perhaps all we need is less funding to the military and a more functional and better financed police force/special operations groups like the DEA.

It's just sickening that stuff criminals get away with goes mostly unchecked.

I'm thankful for your opinion. You're way more intelligent than the normal people I discuss with.

[stinkystu1]

@DaRaginAUSSIE A better solution would be for the Federal government to pull their noses out of our asses so they can concentrate on things like immigration.

[Awwehness]

war on terra/planet

[Awwehness]

United Snakes of America,, another military loss,, I love it,, I love it,,fight more wars please

[Awwehness]

how does an exit define a war? because you said it does?

[Mikahopea]

usa allways win, hell yeah. jeehaa.

[Awwehness]

@Mikahopea lol enjoy your economic collapse,, soon you wont even be able to buy bullets,, haha ,,, jeehaa... jeehaa!

[kaos260169]

@Awwehness when the US & euro go into economic collapse so will we all. Mikahopea comment is just fucking dumd but yours is complacent.

[avau77]

is it a rearranging of the war mongrels into other countrys?

[DaRaginAUSSIE]

@stinkystu1The bill that was supposed to "limit the powers of local governments and law enforcement agencies in using federal military personnel to enforce the laws of the land?"

I agree, it sounds harsh but it would solve a lot of problems. America is a haven for criminals and lowlife types and I'd be happy living in a nation that doesn't tax me to pay for the problems caused by these criminals.

[stinkystu1]

@DaRaginAUSSIE I do not want the US military destroying my country like they do everywhere else they go. The training the military receives is much too "kill em all" to be effective as a police force. Drill Sergeant: What makes the grass grow green? Recruit: Blood Drill Sergeant, blood makes the grass grow green. Does that sound like someone you would want around your family with military grade weapons? Basic training brain washes recruits into thinking they are invincible.

[DaRaginAUSSIE]

@stinkystu1 I'm not freedom hating, I'm law abiding. These laws are here for a reason, to try and make things fair such as laws for immigration. It took me 6 years to get my green card and I will rot in a hospital bed if I am ever injured without insurance but illegals get free healthcare.

As for drug cartels and gangsters, hope the murderers burn in hell.

What's your issue with me? I thought you would dislike the real enemies of state.

[stinkystu1]

@DaRaginAUSSIE I believe in Posse Comitatus, and you clearly do not. THAT is my problem with you.

[kaos260169]

@stinkystu1 If you believe in Posse Comitatus l hope you have your bags packed for camp FEMA as it is coming your way very soon in the US after Obama signed the NDAA act your wish will come true, enjoy ya holiday

[stinkystu1]

@kaos260169 My bags are not packed but my BR is loaded. I would rather die fighting than let someone haul me away.

[kaos260169]

@stinkystu1 that sounds like a much better attitude, then why did you say before you "believe in Posse Comitatus" ?? as far as drug cartels go there gets no bigger than the CIA

[stinkystu1]

@kaos260169 The NDAA goes against Posse Comitatus.

[kaos260169]

@stinkystu1 NDAA 2012 effectively does away with the Bill of Rights, the Posse Comitatus Act and the Non-Detention Act. NDAA 2012 is clearly illegal legislation, as is the Patriot Act. The Congressmen who voted in favor of both are criminals & should be tried for treason.

[stinkystu1]

@kaos260169 Exactly.

[kaos260169]

@stinkystu1 very soon they will pass SOPA act maybe rename it then ppl like you & me can no longer educate ourselves & have no choice but to listen to there propaganda bullshit

[kaos260169]

@stinkystu1 somewhat true but not many ppl where l live are awake & believe we live in the lucky country, most things the US does our government does & very few have opened there eye's a can see we are sliding to tyranny aswell, so when the shit hits the fan a big difference is that we have already been disarmed years ago & you have your BR >:-(

[mrjesuslover1000]

gestoorde Christenen and Joden..

Laat ze maar daar blijven.. en beter gaan ze dood daar ^^

[kaos260169]

In 2001 the Taliban asked the USA for proof that Osama bin Laden "Tim Osman" did 911 & they would hand him over, so why did the US invade Afghanistan to start with when all they had to do was hand over evidence ???? ahh that's right all the REAL proof off 911 points the finger at Mossad & the CIA, So why did they invade ??? pipe-line, opium poppies, puppet government, launching pad for Iran, Rothschild's bank, etc wake up they are getting ready for WW3 with Iran, china, russia etc end game NWO..

[habib080]

the Soviets, the Mongols (Genghis Khan), Alexander the great, Great Britain (3 times), Arabs, Turks have all lost to Afghans (mainly the Pashtun people.) America/Nato and all their allies are seeking defeat again.. lol History repeats itself people. I thought America learned from Vietnam. lol

[ItsAboutWhatUDo]

Who really knows if the Taliban even exists? U invade a country and call the freedom fighters terrorists.

[mrjesuslover1000]

i dont want Americans (West) quit this WAR

It give me happyness to know every time, I read.. American economy is down

Euro is down.. Zions died, Christians getting killed

Jews are getting killed..

They started and they got punished..

I love such news, when i listen an American 18 year old soldier died there

Why.. because they got brains, but they don't want use their brains

Because they are happy to be brainwashed , and the best part is they know they are brainwashed..

[ItsAboutWhatUDo]

@mrjesuslover1000 I dont get how u can call ur self Jesus lover and make such an insensitive comment. Ur not representing Christ very well.

[mrjesuslover1000]

@ItsAboutWhatUDo I am sure Jesus "THE HOLY" Christ never want people go around and kill innocent people.. But Christians are not following him, get the brand of Christianity and call yourself to be a Christian.. does not mean you are a TRUE Christian.

At least when you are following Paulinity...

And at least when people believe in books named : "According to"

LOL.. WTF is according to???

So Christians are Satanic ARMY..

^^ And you guys changed his name. "Jesus"

[ItsAboutWhatUDo]

@mrjesuslover1000 Christianity is the truth dude, we could argue about it all day but Christ is so loving and forgiving that even if u dont believe in him if u r a good person he will send u to heaven. Jesus Christ is the living and loving God.

[mrjesuslover1000]

@ItsAboutWhatUDo ^^ go talk with Jews..

you stupid brainwashed unhuman person

[ItsAboutWhatUDo]

@mrjesuslover1000 Jews dont believe in Christ just like u so its the same thing.

[mrjesuslover1000]

@ItsAboutWhatUDo who said... I don't believe in Christ..

I do follow his teachings

You are the one who is not following him

talking chatting commenting all what you want.. the fact will never change

[ItsAboutWhatUDo]

@mrjesuslover1000 Lol well im definitly not perfect but im not the one making statements saying i love when people get punished. im glad that u follow Christ's teachings tho God bless.

[mrjesuslover1000]

@ItsAboutWhatUDo yes, i know you are lol..

i know blind people can't understand the truth

blind people can't count

1+1+1= 3 and not 1 xD

peace

[mrjesuslover1000]

@ItsAboutWhatUDo his Hebrew name is Yehoshua, Yeshua

And Isa in Arabic..

So Christians are followers of Satan.

[MrFattyfatfatboy]

@mrjesuslover1000 The Quran is the best toilet paper i have ever tried but because it is so soft and subtle on my ass im running out,could you lend me some Qurans to wipe my ass as i dont like paying for it. i prefer the arabic version as it pages are softer and more subtle and shit stick to it better.

[InfoBounty]

@mrjesuslover1000 I know your angry about many things the west is done. But being happy that christians, jews, americans are being killed.... pretty sad. Being unhappy about a war means you feel bad for both sides doing the killing. Both sides are being brainwashed to do these things, whether its war propaganda in the US and israel, or the childrens shows in palestine that tell children to become terrorists.

[mrjesuslover1000]

@InfoBounty ^^ i am not angry you fool..Christians, Jews Atheists are dieing in the name of satan.

Taliban are defending their country, and some are dieing in the name of brotherhood

because Islam is not a racial religion

Same with Palistinians, they die for their land, home.

^^ youtube is full with Christians Atheists are converting to Islam.

Soon you guys will start killing your own brothers sisters.

Christians are the best to kill their own brothers, Love history

[GuardianoftheSource]

@mrjesuslover1000

"i am not angry you fool..Christians, Jews Atheists are dieing in the name of satan."

2:62

English Translation "Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. "

You are obviously an atheist simply pretending to be a Muslim.

[respinozaaudio]

@mrjesuslover1000

you suck dude, people dying isn't cool whom ever it may be its never good shame on you

[mrjesuslover1000]

@respinozaaudio people dying.. then mail them, Go mail the world

Leave Afghanistan alone

They need to stop terrorising Muslims

They can't win.. no one won there

Mogols, British empire, Russians and now Americans

Afghanistan: They don't call it "The Graveyard of Empires" for nothing

Look Americans are committing suicide

Many dead American soldiers got dumped in the GARBAGE

You guys have no peace on earth, while you're alive and after death you guys are rotten there in the garbage

[TheWolfmoon21]

@jamesappleridge sorry your attempt at a come back failed miserably..now stay asleep and obey your ever increasing fascist state....ndaa cough cough....

[TheWolfmoon21]

@TinyMcLarge The american dream,,you gotta be asleep to believe it

[kaos260169]

@TheWolfmoon21 George Carlin may he rest in peace.

[BoudiccaBlanc]

After the US/NATO leave someone will have to

1. Renegotiate a deal with the Afghan government (i.e. the Taliban) for th T.A.P.I. pipeline The Pashtun tribe controls the ground that the pipeline needs to transverse

2. If the deal is rejected ... Begin the killing of the Pastuns & tribal leaders again to insure that the pipline is built China and a faction of the leaders in Pakistan want this pipeline built, as do people of the international oil businesses

China will step in....

[Thegrayrage]

It is only a victory if they are able to regain power. If, on the other hand, they continue to loiter in the shadows, making appearances only in an unorganized, lose knit fashion, then...IMHO, they lost. But win or lose...it's always subjective in these modern "wars" that resemble police actions more than anything else.

[dboy11368]

There was no chance of any kind of success. You can kill the people but "ideas are bulletproof."

[takebackkean]

i know many on this channel will disagree but it was the right move to to invade. alkida was a real threat, now they are not. the Taliban has been forced to change and its self a much weaker force. mean while we have dramatically increaced the lively hood of people of Afghanistan. they have a the right to vote, there infant mortality has dramatically decreased, there life expectancy has dramatically increased. these are the facts and they are good. if u look at the entire picture it is good.

[SurvivorVeteran1]

@takebackkean Stay ignorant.

[takebackkean]

@SurvivorVeteran1 well i have a degree in poli sci and i am an expert in the matters of data and stats, but hay u know more right u read a wiki.

[Awwehness]

@takebackkean just what the world needs,, Another expert,,

[SurvivorVeteran1]

@takebackkean Sure you do....

[skottidogg10]

RT is weak! Just tell people that we've come to the point we're comfortable with the amount of 'homeland' terrorism practice needed to infiltrate our own country, and we can stop lying to people that there's been a war worth fighting at all! Thanks for your time RT

[MrViTopol]

@skottidogg10 rednecks can do make both homegrown terrorism and homegrown videos...

[jonahfox]

TALIBAN > AMERICA!!!

[BoudiccaBlanc]

@jonahfox Wrong.......

al-Qaeda = CIA.

The Taliban are the locals in Afghanistan.

[thenewmike2012]

I think President Obama has proven, with the killing of Bin Laden by a handful of SEALS, that we dont always need a HUGE military presence to get the job done. Afghan has had 10 yrs of sitting on their hands, raking in MILLIONS of US financial aid. If they dont have their government and military together by now, its their own fault.

[hhhaaa68]

I should correct myself. US has never won any wars since WII.

[hhhaaa68]

Looking back on the history, US has never won any of the wars such as Korean, Vietnam, Golf, Iraq, Afghanistan, and many others whether they admit it or not. Why do Americans think that they can win this time? Albert Einstein Quotes Insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

[BoudiccaBlanc]

@hhhaaa68 You said: "Why do Americans think that they can win this time?"

It's not about "wining!" For people like the Bushies & Cheney; it is about military contracts to enrich themselves. It's about pipeline contracts to enrich themselves.

T.A.P.I. pipeline

h t t p: / /i wpr. net/ report-news/ afghan-pipeline-dream-one-step­-closer

I.P.I. pipeline

h t t p: / / en. wikipedia. org/ wiki/Iran–Pakistan–India_gas_p­ipeline

(China is involved in both of these pipelines)

[Squallleonheartfan]

US troops died in vain.

[wtf0804]

‘The Taliban, Per Se, Is Not Our Enemy’

Joe Biden

So they are not our enemy but our enemy?

[BoudiccaBlanc]

@wtf0804

We're in their country; killing their people. That makes US/NATO (and the Pakistanis) as bad as the Russians in "Charlie Wislon's War" and the real event of: "Operation Cyclone"

h t t p: / / en. wikipedia. org/ wiki/ Operation_Cyclone

The Taliban didn't bomb the WTC. The Taliban gave shelter to bin-Laden because he was an old ally...That's their tribal code.

al-Qaeda = bin Laden (and now with Libya -- al-Qaeda/CIA connection)

Was CIA connected to 9/11 ?

[Slapchop21]

I lost a good friend over there, he was in the Canadian army helping young school girls get to school in the mornings as it was deemed illegal for them, they would do things like throw battery acid on them and other cruel acts. I know the reason for going into Afghanistan wasn't clear at first but from he told me he knew what he as there after helping those young children just go to school and feel safe. I know deep down there are others who are like him, over there actually trying to help

[tomaurora1]

OGNI GUERRA NON HA "VINCITORI" SIAMO TUTTI SCONFITTI !!!!!!!!!!

[seanmbrosnan]

Well since the american people were quite happy to let this illegal war commence, fuck it. if you're stupid enough to let people like Fox news brainwash you then you're only getting what you deserve for your ignorence. Can't you people think for yourselves? oh yeah Barack Obama is black and he can walk on water, do you need anymore convincing? please...

[TheWolfmoon21]

@jamesappleridge oh you are all so superior lmao another vietnam for you yankee dogs..now go kneel to your masters the chinese and russians and see what they will allow you corporate fascists to do.....run along now boy

[Taidgh17]

This where rt just resorts to American level journalism..the war wasn't meant to be won it was meant to make money...c'mon rt 90percent of the time you guys are spoon

[nectarine36]

what will the CIA do without the record opium crops fron Afghanistan?

Think afghanistan supplies upwatds of 90% of the world's supply.

[helmethead72]

@jamesappleridge Ok chum,why didn't Nato bomb Bahrain and Saudi Arabia for their murderous treatment of anti government protestors,their admission of beatings and torture of suspects? Oh right,they pay the Military Industrial Complex billions of dollars,so that's ok. And the US Marine Corps has ruined its reputation with the murders of Iraqi civilians, Abu Graib and the video of pissing on dead fighters. USA name is SHIT now globally,as Obama carries out Bush policies. Sick.

[Thegrayrage]

@helmethead72 I don't think most folks believe the "good vs evil" propaganda that floods us daily. Everyone knows US involvement most of the time reflects US interests at stake.

[WTFjustNEWS]

The war isnt meant to be won.

Its meant to be continuous.

[espinosaw80602]

None of this was ever any of our buisness. Now that bin laden is gone. the Taliban is growing. After 10 years our economy is on the verge of collapse and we look like war mongoring idiots in the international spot light. TOLD U SO!! RON PAUL 2012. lets stop digging before we can't climb out

[ObamaBiden2012]

This is a "Political withdrawal" in order for a second Obama term. America will do covert Operations to keep hold of the poppy fields. Ron Paul 2012

[Thegrayrage]

@ObamaBiden2012 Are you sure it's the poppy fields that are a reason for any intrusion in Afganistan? It's my understanding the Lithium deposits are worth quite a bit.

[stinkystu1]

No, US troops deploying to Afghanistan in the first place was a Taliban victory.

[moviematcanada]

@jamesappleridge

That's the problem idiot the Taliban are the innocent, it's was fucking Al-Qaeda that are the fucking problem, which by the way your fucking Government (CIA) paid and trained them to kill, your own fucking people.

I can only hope if my country ever gets invaded by illegal forces that I have the courage and conviction to be just like the Taliban.

[SovereignTexan]

So.. who is going to guard all the poppy fields???

[DaRaginAUSSIE]

Bring the troops back to fight our domestic enemies: drug cartels, militant cults, capture illegal immigrants, gang members, etc..

[stinkystu1]

@DaRaginAUSSIE We need a civil war so we can purge our country of freedom hating pricks like you.

[TheWolfmoon21]

yep another vietnam for the united states of bloated ego's....they may as well go home and continue enforcing there fascist state on the dumb yank sheep...because they aint ever gonna attack iran or anywere else cause russia and china say no and the yanks say ok master

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

They call it the graveyard of empires for a reason. If we are lucky, we will survive without a total collapse.

[ItsAboutWhatUDo]

@bamboo4tameshigiri it will be a miracle if we survive without a total collapse lol.

[ChemtrailsBelgium]

they just want to show that obama can pull troops back home just like Ron Paul..

[ReunitePeace777]

AMERICA HAS NOT BEEN TRYING TO GET AN ALLIANCE WITH PAKISTAN RT!!! THAT IS A LIE I WOULD EXPECT FROM FOX NEWS!!

4:50

BOMBING WITH DRONES IS NOT AN ALLIANCE IT IS AN ACT OF TERROR!

[Judeschwein88]

@ReunitePeace777

Stupid cunt. Pakistan, Israel and Saudi Arabia is nr 1 allied of USA.

It is about ethnicity as well. There is a lot of other ethnicity in Pakistan. Western soil has a majority of so called Pasthuns = Afghans. They don't recognize Pakistanis border line. and in the south west there is balochs I think they don't want a independent country. So they bomb those people. Germans wants 100 % freedom and independent again. Germans occupied since 1945 by Zionist USA/EU

[Judeschwein88]

@Judeschwein88

balochs I think they want a independent country. **

[ibullpitt]

The Taliban? The US created them, and, unfortunately, they create new enemies at almost every opportunity. When will the US stop trying to have it's way with the bullet from a gun?

[Jazziggady]

No, it means the Asians are not funding the elite anymore with their fiat bubble money and only want to trade in something of value, ie GOLD. The Elite have no more money and thus have to withdraw the troops. The Rothschilds are not happy their emperium is falling apart so keep an eye out on the olympics, big false flag on the way peeps, this will kickstart WWIII, spread the word. When Rothschilds plans are distorted, the force a war so they can lend money and make countries bankrupt, wake up

[liderlider]

@Jazziggady ¿are you listening? WW3 knocking the door .In Europe everyday is worse and a complete chaos is coming . The empire "U.s.a" need a new war in order to settle the unpayable debt. Brilliant

[Thegrayrage]

@liderlider WW3? Who in the heck will be in WW3? Not the US...China won't be involved...and sure as heck not Russia...so who the hell is gonna fight in WW3? If you think any of these three countries will risk giving up their position in the world today by getting involved in something like a WW3, you are naive :(

[SurvivorVeteran1]

@Thegrayrage I dont think you know what naive means.

[zlyable]

How does a COUNTRY even declare war on a gang? The United Snake of Assholes was just there to murder people & quench its blood thirst.. well seems like its running outta venom.

[liderlider]

@zlyable Real prophecy: "Wars shall increase, and the great World War, the greatest of all, shall befall mankind, and shall make extinct three-quarters of the world's population. Is this what you want?" -Virgin Mary

[Thegrayrage]

@zlyable What are you in kindergarden? Is the silly name calling really necessary?

[TheAlexagius]

No it means the usa has seen sence and stoped wasting cash on a pointless war, and to be honest both russia nad the usa "lost" agaist the taliban both great military nations, but a pointless war ended is not a loss

[MrThefearlessone]

israel now you no truth you cant deny destiny afghan will never be defeated but its people afghani pakistan kashmiri chechan the world over will join them and israel will be no more your one eyed messiah will be defeated all you zionists have done is kill kids poison the future kids with depleted uranium yourtime is coming

[ThelmaMaude2]

A resounding YES



[ibullpitt]

If it's to be a fair democracy, then the US and Israel has to stay away. Including CIA, MOSSAD, etc.

[98bigbutt]

The biggest nothing in history since Vietnam and a waste of $ too because the $ that was used in this war,could have been used for things the American people really needs.

[AdebillYuden]

@98bigbutt well said . so much military spending could have instead been spent on education, health , job creation, industry increase, investments in small business , investments in medium enterprise. instead of this stupid war...

[Thegrayrage]

@AdebillYuden Ahh, but the folks who made FORTUNES on all that military spending would not have made their money had that cash been spent elsewhere. And there it is......