Lol, these guys learn this in SIX weeks?? Here the official 'horseshoeing' school takes YEARS. You have to start learning how a horse moves, how the muscles work, they don't immediately start working on life animals (imagine all those students hammering away...) and they learn how to make horse shoes themselves. Six weeks is a joke.
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@Pro3110 There is a good reason for that. No one can trim correctly! You open your mind that maybe a trim exists that you are unaware. Stupid book too.
@hoofrise I don't want them to follow me, silly! I DO however, want them to follow proper and recognized practices that have kept horses sound for hundreds of years.
@Pro3110 The barefoot you know of ain't the way. Those guys are idiots. They can't make a horse move unless they pinch off the digital arteries and destroy coffin bones. Those horses aren't sound, they are numb.
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@Pro3110 They are both super destructive. Working a horse barefoot is better for the health of the coffin bone. Incorrect trimming goes hand in hand with shoeing.
Sleeping sheep are cute to watch, and probably to keep, but what's that got to do with anything here? You have fallen into the fad of the barefoot horse, it comes and goes, but unfortunately for the horses, it won't stay gone.
Oh well, good thing there's a demand for horsemeat in some countries. With people like you who hate shoes, there will always be a plentiful supply.
@Pro3110 Does it ever occur to you that the books you are given access to are actually selected for you and contain endless half truths and misnomers?
Are you serious? Do they keep books locked up in your country? I have access to ALL of them! This is why I am so contemptuous of the barefoot ideology!!!!!!
Every time my husband trims one up, it is perfectly balanced on the X,Y, and Z axis. Absolutely perfect. After many years of english equitation training, and years of a having a racing commission license, I've seen many perfectly trimmed hooves. They are kept that way by shoes.
They are dog-food without them. When was the last time a barefoot horse competed in the Olympics? Never, they can't take it.
Whatever, dude. I've seen thousands of perfectly trimmed hooves over the years. Your problem is that you think that you know more than hundreds of farriers with thousands of years more experience than you have.
I bet it pisses you off that their horses don't go lame like yours do.
BTW, the digital arteries are suspended anterior to the bulbar and coronal arteries at P2. There is no way in hell that trimming or shoeing interferes with these arteries. Hell, they aren't even in the hoof. The arteries in the hoof are the circumflex, the terminal arch, the dorsal, the paracuneal, and the bulbar arteries.
It's kind of hard to give someone credence when they claim that the digital arteries get pinched by shoeing when they aren't even in the hoof!
Wrong!!! Someone who has dissected a variety of critters, not just for animal science, but for human A&P, as well. Made the Dean's list, so I'm getting it. Will have more initials behind my name, too, someday, which will mean that, at that point, I will be worth listening to.
You know, like all of the people you put down, yet you don't have squat to back it up with. Like empirical evidence, experience, the approval of ALL serious equestrian veterinarian organizations, etc...
Great school
tippinpine5 2 weeks ago
Lol, these guys learn this in SIX weeks?? Here the official 'horseshoeing' school takes YEARS. You have to start learning how a horse moves, how the muscles work, they don't immediately start working on life animals (imagine all those students hammering away...) and they learn how to make horse shoes themselves. Six weeks is a joke.
Saartje05 4 months ago
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If conventional farrier science is so great. Why is lameness a multi-million dollar racquet? And don't say barefoot.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
Simple.
Owners.
Pro3110 1 year ago 7
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Almost all horse shoers know nothing about trimming a hoof. If you can't keep a horse working barefoot, you can't keep horses feet and should resign!
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
Spamming up all of the farrier vids, are you? Just to push the BS no shoe ideology?
Try opening your mind instead of pushing crap that lames horses!
Read, "The Mirage of of the Natural Foot", by Micheal Miller, MD, CJF, FWCF. It completely debunks the myths you perpetuate.
When you get THAT many initials after YOUR name, you will be worth listening to.
Pro3110 1 year ago 7
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@Pro3110 There is a good reason for that. No one can trim correctly! You open your mind that maybe a trim exists that you are unaware. Stupid book too.
hoofrise 1 year ago
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@Pro3110 The author of that book has no clue how to trim a hard working bare foot, neither do the supporters.
hoofrise 1 year ago
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hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
I prefer reading books. Unlike you. Get as many initials behind your name as the people you put down before asking for any respect from anyone!
Pro3110 1 year ago 6
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@Pro3110 The masses are ignorant in case you didn't know. So getting them to follow you is no challenge.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise I don't want them to follow me, silly! I DO however, want them to follow proper and recognized practices that have kept horses sound for hundreds of years.
Barefoot ain't the way.
Pro3110 1 year ago 6
@Pro3110 The barefoot you know of ain't the way. Those guys are idiots. They can't make a horse move unless they pinch off the digital arteries and destroy coffin bones. Those horses aren't sound, they are numb.
What do you know with your teenager web channel?
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
Apparently I know just a bit more than you, and I'm far from being an expert.
Pro3110 1 year ago 3
@Pro3110 I am talking about the book about barefoot. The author gets signatures from an uneducated public.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@Pro3110 You want them to follow blindly. Shoeing and incorrect trimming destroy coffin bones. Correct trimming is virtually unknown.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
Revise that a bit, and I'll go along with you. Try, "Incorrect trimming may be detrimental to the coffin bone." and I'll agree.
Shoeing does NOT, but working a horse barefoot is a good way to turn it into dog-food.
Pro3110 1 year ago 3
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@Pro3110 They are both super destructive. Working a horse barefoot is better for the health of the coffin bone. Incorrect trimming goes hand in hand with shoeing.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
No. Super destructive is the myth of the healthy barefoot horse.
If I took one of your horses out, it probably wouldn't make it back. Thank God for sidearms, they are very handy for mistreated horses like that.
Pro3110 1 year ago 15
@Pro3110 Oh, and ignorant people are not allowed to take my horses out.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise Terrified they might come back better for it, aren't you? After all, they would be shod, and this would blow your myths away.
Pro3110 1 year ago 4
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@Pro3110 You are under mind control if you think horses can't work barefoot. Shoeing is a 'dark art'. Walking founder.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
BTW, most people who know anything about horses know that they founder from diet, not trimming. Duh.
Pro3110 1 year ago 2
@Pro3110 Haha. Keep sleeping sheep.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
Sleeping sheep are cute to watch, and probably to keep, but what's that got to do with anything here? You have fallen into the fad of the barefoot horse, it comes and goes, but unfortunately for the horses, it won't stay gone.
Oh well, good thing there's a demand for horsemeat in some countries. With people like you who hate shoes, there will always be a plentiful supply.
Pro3110 1 year ago 13
@Pro3110 Most people are wrong. Idiots rule. Where have you been?
hoofrise 1 year ago
@Pro3110 Incorrect form is founder.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
Okay, basics are needed here.
Founder: To become ill from overeating. Used of livestock. To be afflicted with laminitis. Used of horses.
Obviously founder is not merely incorrect form.
Pro3110 1 year ago 2
@Pro3110 Does it ever occur to you that the books you are given access to are actually selected for you and contain endless half truths and misnomers?
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
"That I am given access to"
Are you serious? Do they keep books locked up in your country? I have access to ALL of them! This is why I am so contemptuous of the barefoot ideology!!!!!!
It simply destroys horses.
Pro3110 1 year ago 7
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@Pro3110 Yes trimming. I assume you have never seen a correct trim?
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
Every time my husband trims one up, it is perfectly balanced on the X,Y, and Z axis. Absolutely perfect. After many years of english equitation training, and years of a having a racing commission license, I've seen many perfectly trimmed hooves. They are kept that way by shoes.
They are dog-food without them. When was the last time a barefoot horse competed in the Olympics? Never, they can't take it.
Pro3110 1 year ago 2
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@Pro3110 That's what I thought. You have never seen a correctly trimmed hoof. There is your problem.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
Whatever, dude. I've seen thousands of perfectly trimmed hooves over the years. Your problem is that you think that you know more than hundreds of farriers with thousands of years more experience than you have.
I bet it pisses you off that their horses don't go lame like yours do.
Pro3110 1 year ago 7
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@Pro3110 I can't keep up with you. I'm done.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
Goody!
BTW, the digital arteries are suspended anterior to the bulbar and coronal arteries at P2. There is no way in hell that trimming or shoeing interferes with these arteries. Hell, they aren't even in the hoof. The arteries in the hoof are the circumflex, the terminal arch, the dorsal, the paracuneal, and the bulbar arteries.
It's kind of hard to give someone credence when they claim that the digital arteries get pinched by shoeing when they aren't even in the hoof!
Pro3110 1 year ago 8
@Pro3110 Someone has never seen a coffin bone.
hoofrise 1 year ago
@hoofrise
Wrong!!! Someone who has dissected a variety of critters, not just for animal science, but for human A&P, as well. Made the Dean's list, so I'm getting it. Will have more initials behind my name, too, someday, which will mean that, at that point, I will be worth listening to.
You know, like all of the people you put down, yet you don't have squat to back it up with. Like empirical evidence, experience, the approval of ALL serious equestrian veterinarian organizations, etc...
Pro3110 1 year ago 7