Vu1 ESL™ Documentary

[urvecontratista]

Hola, Osita, como no hemos podido hablar, te mandó este video de un a nueva tecnología.

Mientras se consolida lo de la Energias Alternativas, veo lo que me dá mi día a día, y una tecnoogía emergente es esta.

He estado actualizándome en la nueva generación de formas de producir luz y como compatibilizarlas con los dimmers.

Ademas, por diversos decretos, tecnologías como la de Luz Mixta, ya están descontinuadas, y debo de ver como se están sustituyendo, y como se van a controlar.

Saludos.

[djmmcee]

There is no such thing as... "Global Warming," It is a liberal control ploy.

[conceicaod]

This company is a fraud, 2009 Vu1 said there going to ship out the bulb, March 23, 2011 they said the same thing but nothing. No video on 2 generation blub. Product doesn't exist.

[NWguy83]

Seattle rocks

[beefranks]

also why can the government make incandecent light bulbs illegal? where is our freedom of choice in the matter? we are one step away from the government regulating when we can and cant use electricity.

[NWguy83]

@beefranks Europe made incans illegal, yet you can still buy them there. How you may ask? By actually calling them heatbulbs.

[beefranks]

can someone please explain to me how light bulb efficiency causes pollution,higher energy prices,dependence on foreign oil, and contributes to global warming? (which does not even exist btw)

[ReduceYourAccentLA]

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[pigvomit757575]

I didn't say I would run away, I just said I won't argue anymore.

I can stick around and make fun of you, your obesity, your looks, your messy work station, the fact that you seem to have videos of yourself on youtube for all the world to see.

Yes, this is childish, but I am just an anonymous username, you seem to identify as some sort of scientist, yet you get down in the mud and wrestle with a pig!

[pigvomit757575]

In spite of the references to man made global warming, I do plan on trying out this product when it becomes available. But I make it very clear that I am not part of this fanatical religion of neo-environmentalism.

[pigvomit757575]

I'm not going to argue with an irrational, profane and intolerant person like you, so I will just go for the personal insults, like you already have.

Just for you I will use my electric heater a little bit more this winter. I will leave my lights on when I leave the office. I will see if I can make a few unnecessary trips to the store....and I will not feel at all guilty about it.

Merry Christmas!

[pigvomit757575]

You mean the "scientists" that add in false data in order to come to the conclusion they want, and then destroy the original data? Yes, those "scientists" do.

[ginchinchili]

It's not a flood light. It's a reflector bulb, the kind used in recessed lighting. We use reflector bulbs in our kitchen. Their bulb is now up to 700 - 800 lumens, and that is incandescent quality light, which is more difficult to produce. They are targeting mid year 2010 for their first product launch and are also working on using ESL technology in tube style bulbs, of which there are no LEDs, only florescents which contain mercury.

[BoogsterSU2]

What about flat ESL panels for flatscreen TVs and ESLs for street lights and traffic lights?

[BoogsterSU2]

CFLs: What would the world look like if there was no mercury at all?

ESLs: Will there be a released date? Are electrons safe? And, will it replace CFLs and LEDs in the future once they assemble an imporved and successful version?

[aloe683]

The ESL is just another fly by night technology that is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for the average consumer...$25-$30 a bulb...just like LED's. Bascially an LCD TV type bulb. No potential customer is going to spend that much to furnish a house.

[ginchinchili]

aloe, again you aren't being acurate. They say their spot price will be about $20. Though this is still pretty high it's important to keep in mind that these folks are just beginning. Look how the price of LEDs and CFLs have dropped over time. Vu1's just starting out and they are already cheaper than an LED and comparable to a premiem dimmable CFL, and both of those have been around for quite a while. But the clincher is, Vu1's bulb is superior to both of those bulbs. This is a winner.

[pigvomit757575]

I hope these are available on the market soon. One problem with the video though...they assume global warming is caused by humans, which has NOT been proven. Politicians say so, not most scientists.

[mrjustin5]

Another problem with CFL's besides the horrid Mercury which will no doubt cause autism (Research shows direct link between mercury and autism)

CFL's cannot be used in unventilated fixtures. CFL's get to hot and the capacitors bulge and whither out until the CFL dies prematurely, at like 1/10th or 1/6th the rated lifespan.

CFL's also give off strong and noisy electromagnetic fields which some people seem to be allergic too (search it on youtube). CFL's also give off way too much UV radiation.

[MMMisterDNA]

To: mrjustin5

WHAT ???

I have a cfl right here and i can touch the bulb AND the fixture with my bare hand, please review your facts.

VU radiation is equal to any fluorescent light used all over the states, please review your facts.

Noisy Electromagnetic fields ? What noise?

Please review your facts.

Are you working for VU1 corporationn ?

Why do you peddle such horseshit ?

[Slider68]

Although I have always assumed CFLs will be decent products in the future, I have personally experienced point 2 & 3:

1. Mercury is bad, but how much is really in a CFL? I thought I read some CFLs had none also?

2. Every CFL I have installed in a sealed enclosure has failed in roughly 1/10th the expected life span. They do not produce much heat, but they can handle even less.

3. One of my cordless phones wouldn't work when used in the same room as a CFL (I replaced the phone).

[MMMisterDNA]

CFL's are by no mean a panacea.

But:

They are compact fluorescents, just like the fluorescents that have been used in the industry, in factories and in malls for decades, only smaller.

There are millions, maybe billions at stake for the lighting solution of the future.

That doesn't mean the ones offering new solutions have to lie about CFL's and LED's.

CFL's are not perfect, nor are LEDs but they are a HUGE inprovement over incandescent and don't deserve to be lied about like this.

[MMMisterDNA]

Part2

There are new CFL's that don't involve mercury.

Recent research in new materials and nanotechnology gave us OLED's to replace LED's.

OLED's (Organic Light Emitting Diode) are going to be cheaper, brighter and more efficient than any bulb, just like the microchip became more efficient than the vacuum tube.

Maybe ESL is an interesting technology, but there is no need to put everything else aside like the lesser VHS technology put aside the much better Betamax technology in the 80's.

[ginchinchili]

MMM, there will be plenty of uses for different lighting technology. This company is only focused on light bulbs. LEDs already have a multitude of uses and it's unlikely any technology will replace it in most of these. The light bulb is a different beast. When these ESL bulbs hit the market they will already be cheaper than LEDs and they're just getting started. Like LEDs, CFLs and OLEDs, there's room for ESLs to improve and to drop in price. That's why I think Vu1 will be a serious contender.

[St3aua86]

ESL??? LOL! Welcome to mass irradiation people!!!!!!

[ginchinchili]

Vu1 bulbs produce no radiation, no UV rays and contains no mercury. They will last approximately 6,000 hours and unlike CFLs Vu1's bulbs life span is not effected by how many times you turn it on and off or if you leave it on for less than 15 minutes, which adversely effects the life span of a CFL.

[jakubgt1]

They forgot to mention on how efficient LED bulbs are. They also never mentioned how long their ESL lights will last.

[n33oh]

LED heating problems? What a joke! People have been using incandescents for 100 yrs without any problems and those get FREAKIN HOT!

Ever tried touching an incandescent bulb after it's been on for an hour? LEDs operate much much cooler than incandescents.

[calvinkleinmba]

This is not as energy efficient as LED. It basically operates the same way old tube TV's worked, spraying a phosphorous surface w/electrons and making them glow, which is very inefficient.

Color quality complaints of CFL and LED? Wow, they're really reaching. Consumers are trending towards whiter looking lights, because whiter light illuminates better, which is why HID lights are preferred and a premium on automobiles.

[aloe683]

Pure Spectrum has now patented a CFL build that is fully dimmable(no flicker or dying out), instant on, cold to the touch, highest power factor(.96), and the energy usage is proportional to the dimming level, the light output is that of an incandescent and the price will be in the $4-$6 range. This is the answer to the NEW CFL!

Hopefully the bulbs will be on Home Depot and Wal Mart shelves soon.

[ginchinchili]

PureSpectrum is a scam. They're about to fold due to lack of funding. Anyone seriously thinking about investing in PureSpectrum should first go to OTC Voice, do a search on PureSpectrum, and listen to their CEO's interview from July 13, 2009. During that interview their CEO states that he's trying to decide which exchange to move his penny stock company to, the AMEX, NASDAQ or NYSE. He obviously forgot to check the criteria for moving to any of those exchanges. PureSpectrum has no revenue.

[ric0ter0]

Do you Know if this tecnology has stroboscopic effect like

the cfl's ??

[ric0ter0]

Do you Know if this tecnology has stroboscopic effect like the cfl's ??

[thingsdemystified]

I think their cons on LED's and CFL's are a bit too harsh. I actually think CFL's are an upgrade compared to incandescent's (and I'm not referring to efficiency). Color an issue? I just use a warm CFL and a daylight CFL in the same fixture and the color is wonderful! I also don't think warmup time for a CFL is an issue. In fact I like it. When I turn my lights on, I'm not immediately blasted away. And dimming? Who does that? I'm also a fan of LED's. They'll get better I'm sure. Are ESL's safe?

[donlilli4]

I can see this as something I need for in the basement where I have can recessed lighting. I use dimmers for my lightinhg down there as I have my home theater set up in my basement. CFL's do not dim, even dimmer-friendly versions, and I have already put Incandescents back into those locations.

I will use LEDs or ESL, but I have been let down by CFLs with regard to their longevity. ESL should run at half to two-thirds the power as Incandescents.

[abadeizer]

Wow... Lol

This comment wall is a virtual Stockholding battle!

People saying that they actually ENJOY the green flickering CFLs? and buy it because of that??

And "kudos to vu1"?

I mean if you guys are gonna promote your side, at least try to make it less obvious lol

[busterraymond]

What are you talking about abadeizer? I didn't think you need to hold stock in any company in order to comment here regarding the technology. Personally, I don't hold stock in any lighting company. Sounds like you're a little paranoid. Not sure why.

Vu1 is uses fearmongering in their video ...they bring up CFLs and Incandescents, and you attack posters for saying ..."uh, CFLs aren't nearly as bad that video makes them out to be."

Do you work for Vu1? You seem heavily biased?

[tacoshell14]

looks cool id buy a couple

[busterraymond]

This is technology has tons of problems. If it has a chance, it won't be with this company. They have no patents on the technology and per their last filing they have 0 money and will be shutting down operations come October.

[SoCalFreelance]

Their major selling points were that it's fully dimmable & color quality....what about power efficiency? Cost savings? Isn't that the same method our old tube TV's worked!? Do x-rays shoot out of these?!?!

[josiahsuarez]

this "documentary" is more like an infomercial. they're just trying to sell their product, it's a sales pitch.

[smws3]

Are they radioactive? When luminophore is gone, the clear electron beam will fall down our heads?

[ZequeZ1]

I think the same xD. But, hey! Them don't have mercury! =D

[MMMisterDNA]

Compact fluorescents are not as bad as described in this video, i have them all over the house, they last long and when they are dead, i put them in a box and dispose of them in an appropriate place nearby.

I like the light color.

Leds are okay too, they last even longer than CFL's and are now going down in price.

I would love ESL but there is no need to put down CFL and leds as they do in the video.

Incandescent are yellow, wasteful and simply ugly.

[dmix09]

What about heat? It wasn't mentioned how much energy is lost as heat, if any.

Also, it doesn't seem there is a way for these bulbs to burn out, at least not in the normal way. I doubt they last forever, lol that would be very bad for business.

[soylentgreenb]

I switched to fluorescent lights to avoid the unnatural looking ugly yellow light of incandescent bulbs. The only reason I'd be interested is if they eventually made them with 5000 K colour temperature and better CRI than a good fluorescent tube.

[New2TubinAway]

Yeah, this is neat. But, informative? Not! How about bulb lifetime? What is the CRI? How many watts is their 60W equivalent. In my experience, info is typically left out when there is something negative to hide. On the other hand, maybe they were just making the video general for the youtube audience. Don't know, but would like some more details.

[ginchinchili]

New2, there's a lot more info on their website. The lifespan is about 60,000, roughly the equivalent of a CFL, that is if you're not turning the CFL on and off or you don't wait 15 minutes after turning it on in order to turn it off. Both greatly reduce the lifespan of a CFL bulb. I've been following this company for a while and they're very open with information.

[New2TubinAway]

ginch, I'm not trying to be negative, as I am excited by all new lighting technology, and agree each has its pros and cons. However, I have been to their website and it is more of a teaser than informative. OK, I admit, the CRI is given as 95+, but no firm data shown. Their power efficiency range is vague as well. While I am hopeful for ESL tech, this looks more like a marketing pitch to investors, given the stock started trading this week, and has doubled since this press release.

[New2TubinAway]

Oh, and to clarify, the lifetime is given as 6000 hours on their website, not 60,000.

[ginchinchili]

You're right. My bad.

[LAAV8R]

Excellent and informative! We need much better technology and it appears as though Vu1's new ESL products are pointing to the future. Well done.

[damich]

Wow, where did this thing come from? All I have been hearing about is CFLs and LEDs. Does anyone know anything about this company/product?

[ginchinchili]

Lighting companies that produce CFLs are not going to like this, nor are investors in those companies. Just goes to show you what a potential game changer this technology is. Pretty exciting stuff. I believe in 3 years' time the term ESL will replace CFL, and I've put my money where my mouth is with a sizable investment in Vu1 (VUOC). This technology is not only a good idea, it's the right idea.

[rgtsc01]

It appears these bulbs use conventional materials ( I noticed a lamp stem in the video). The major lamp manufacturers (GE, OSRAM, Philips) already make a range of bulbs and have tooling to handle the job. They also have the capital to develop parallel technologies and I wouldn't be surprised if down the road Vu1 is bought out by one of the lighting giants.

[ginchinchili]

Certainly a possibility, rgtsc01. I would imagine it depends on how smooth or how bumpy the ride is for upper management of Vu1 for the next year. If building this company into a major international business is feasible, they could very well stick with it. But if the odds seem insurmountable and they're given a good offer, I'm sure they'll sell. It will be interesting to watch this company.

[rgtsc01]

I was directed to this company yesterday by an OSRAM manager. Believe me, they are looking at this. It's the technology they want, I'm sure. Not the Vu1 company.

[ginchinchili]

That won't necessarily be a choice. One way or another Sylvania would still have to pay for the company.

[Sivfpidrn]

Wow! All the advantages of CFLs (note the power factor) and none of the disadvantages! If these bulbs can do what they say they can do and they can mass produce them, this could be huge. I hope governments and investors take note.

[ginchinchili]

I must say, this is the single most impressive piece of technology I've seen in a long time. I understand that they are just a few months away from having the bulb market ready. It's clear that the folks at Vu1 mean business and that we will be seeing a lot from ESL technology for years to come. This company has solved all of the problems associated with the world's current lighting technology. Kudos to you, Vu1!