The best heavy cruisers and destroyers of II WW were Japanese and their victories were remarkable, like Java, Savo, Tassafaronga, Kula and Komandorsky. Tassafaronga, in particular, has no match in Naval History.
0:29 - 0:34 , Thats Minorou Genda! the man who brought pearl harbor to fruition, a shame he never got to see his 85th birthday, he died of a heart attack one day before it.
@kamikazeboy123 Well to be honest they had the Allied powers on the run.
As they began what the japanese called and I qoute The Great East Asia war they launched an attack on the US pacific Fleet in which they damaged the fleet and sunk two of its battleships the USS.Arizona and the USS.Utah the Utah was just used for traning but was still a battleship and are still there today.
other battleships like the USS.Oklahoma Capsied but where recovered...
@kamikazeboy123 Then on the 10th of December two days after the attack on Pearl the Japanese sunk Force Z of the coast of Malaya a British task force in which was the HMS.Prince of Wales the last allied battleship in the pacific Churchill said the next day "In all the war, I never received a more direct shock... As I turned over and twisted in bed the full horror of the news sank in upon me. There were no British or American ships in the Indian Ocean or the Pacific except...
@thebritish25 .., no US ships in the Pacific is complete nonsense. The biggest threat to the IJN in the Pacific was the US aircraft carriers not US or RN battleships. Roughly six months l8tr at the Battle of Midway was a clash of opposing aircraft carrier task forces not battleships.
The Pearl Harbor attack failed to touch the US Pacific Fleets fuel bunkers, drydocks and repair facilites along with the deepest natural depth of Pearl Harbor being 39 ft. all above spelled disaster for the IJN.
@fluffy1931 You do know that at one point the Allies only had one opperation Aircraft carrier the USS.Enterprise as the Saratoga was OoA the Hornet Scuttled the rest sunk.
And at Midway the US was very lucky to discovered the Japanese carriers with there guard down and a mass of ammo fule and planes on the decks.
@thebritish25 ..,luck has very little to do with IJN failing roughly 6-mths earlier during Dec 7 1941' attack at Pearl Harbor to knockout the US Pacific Fleets, fuel bunkers, dry docks and repair facilities that would come back to haunt them,..27 May, Pearl Harbor workers made enough repairs on the heavly damaged Yorktown to enable the ship to put to sea. Instead of the IJN facing off against just 2 US aircraft carriers they actually faced off against 3. Enterprise and Hornet & Yorktown.
@fluffy1931 While the US had to face off 4 Japanese carriers remember the US intercepted the japanese and broke there code otherwise Midway whould have not had a sufficant force it would have fallen and the Japs would have gained the upper hand.
deffeat was very close for the US and the rest of the allies but do to determinaton luck and Axis mistakes/ bad planning we won.
@thebritish25 ..Yorktown being repaired in the untouched repair facilities at Pearl Harbor or the other US aircraft carriers being replenished / fuel from untouched fuel bunkers which the Japanese failed to strike on Dec.7 nothing to do with luck. On Jun 3 a US PBY 6-V-55 spotted IJN Kondo's Main Body, Tanaka's Invasion Force, Kurita's Close Support Force and Fujita's Seaplane Tender Group.
Both Nimitz and Fletcher repositioned US forces based on Jun3 reports not anything to do with codes.
@kamikazeboy123 the American survivors of Pearl Harbor, who were hastening back to California. Over all this vast expanse of waters Japan was supreme, and we everywhere were weak and naked"
At which point the allied forces where so weak there fleets had to bind together under ABDACOM ( Australia British Dutch America Comand im not sure what the OM stands for) in which they had one major battle to stop the japanese invasion of Java called the battle of the Java sea..
Imagine how bad the situation for the allies would have been if those few ships had not survived Pearl Habour. Japan was clearly the king of the sea until Midway at least before things started going badly.
what few ships? the few obsolete carriers and battleships absent? even if they had been sunk, Japan had completely failed to damage the Pacific fleet's refuelling, drydocking, repairing and shipbuilding capability. Look at the onslaught of Indy, Bogue and Essex class carriers that were produced.
@kamikazeboy123 in which it was a disaster when the ABDACOM flagship HNLMS.Der Ruyter was sunk.
my point is that outdated it my have been but it still had the allies on the ropes untill the battle of Laette Gulf where japan lost its carrier advantage in 1944.
@KateLicker I built more German stuff, you know, Bismarck, Tirpitz, King Tiger, Me 262 and so on. The last model I built was in the late 1990ies a German dreadnought. Nope, wait, I presented my godchild a model of Bismarck which we built last Winter.
No I haven't read those books. Thanks for the recommendation. I read "The Pacific Campaign" by Dan van der Vat which was the first English book I read, The Battle of Leyte Gulf by Kenneth Friedman and Guadalcanal by Robert Ballard.
Only Ballard book I have is "Lost Ships of Guadalcanal"
I have seen some fantastic documentaries in the last 12 months.A Japanese one about the Kamikazes, 90 mins long. One about the modern JSDF, something a little different subject you never hear of. A Canadian one about the Sakai/F4F/SBD dogfight over the Solomons, which was mentioned in "lost Ships..and a WW1 German 2-part UK one called "hunt the Kaiser's cruisers"..WW1 German navy re Dresden/Emden/Konigsberg.
@KateLicker I have a few Ballard books. My favourite are "The Discovery of the Bismarck" followed by his Guadalcanal book.
I know the latter documentaries. When you've read some good books to a subject then a docu can't be satisfying. To the German East Asia squadron I can recomment the book "The Battles of Coronel and Falkland" by Geoffrey Bennett. A good documentary I once saw was "The Fog of War" with Robert McNamarra. The first 30 min are about his role in the air war against Japan.
Tanks...many kits of Tiger I, King Tiger,Jagd Panther or Jagd tiger, and even a Mk III..
Russian T34s and Su85s..
always motorized ones..great until the little plastic drive gears wore out.
then you had a genuine unreliable 50-tonne Tiger having teething troubles at Kursk/ Tunisia..Isnt it odd the way that German AFVs are always assumed to be diesels,,this was mentioned in Patton the movie, but they all run on gasoline. Ironically, the little tin can Japanese tanks were often diesels.
@KateLicker I had no motorized ones. I used them as dust catchers. I had some tanks by Matchbox and Tamiya. Tiger, King Tiger, Jagdpanther, Puma, M7 Priest, Sherman Firefly, Stuart, Bishop, M3 Grant and so on. I even had a Mörser Karl, a 60cm mortar. The Matchbox line was later sold to Revell hence the identical dioramas and casting frames.
I presume a gasoline engine had more power than a diesel. I also read they used gasoline engines to spare weight.
I-boat Captain is fairly readily available on Amazon and ebay..
He co-authors with an American from Annopis but tells a fantastic account of his and others exploits in the Japanese subs.
"Battle surface'" is actually an Australian book,in lesser supply, is quite large heavy hardcover , more expensive and costs more to post international due to its weight, but its quality in both text and diagrams is amazing.
@KateLicker If you want some good informations about the second Sino-Japanese War which blend into WWII read "Mao: The unknown Story" by Jung Chang. A good book about WWII in general would be the book by Polish military historian Janusz Piekałkiewicz. He also wrote a standart work about WWI. To the Russo-Japanese War I can recomment books by Geoffry Jukes and A.E. Almedingen.
Yes, the familiar Luftwaffe planes...noone didnt love those.
the Commando comics with the beautiful cover artwork which would feature a 'story" revolving around one of the less usual Luftwaffe planes such as Hs129, Me323, Dornier "Pfeil" , FW189, Ju188,Heinkel Zwilling and perhaps even the Blohm and Voss asymetric aircraft.
the fantastic yarn where 2 British desert prisoners escape in a Fiesler "Storch"...and a Stuka pursues them.They must "dogfight" the Stuka.
@KateLicker Ha! I had the first three planes as models. Me 323 was ugly as shit but easy to built and also very dominating at my ceiling. I realy liked the FW TA 152. She had handsome, sleek lines.
Commando Comics aren't availale in Germany or at least hard to get. But there are a lot of French and Belgian comics about WWII. I have two beautiful comics by French artist Dimitri about Tsushima and a German WWII submarine. Beautiful drawn in watercolor and bound as hardcover.
the 60s/70s Commando comics? Worth it for the cover-art.
At the back would be a preview of the next months issues, with a caption like "The Race is on.!..for Junes New Commandos! "...and the drawing would be a huge desert dust-cloud with an 8-Tonne Halftrack,a Kubelwagen or SchwimWagen, and a Zundapp or BMW sidecar with goggles-down DAKS riders racing furiously ahead of the cloud, for the new comics.
Yes, TA152 was a beautiful machine..an airfix Dora 9 was in fact the second
@KateLicker I don't know if my FW-190 was an Airfix model or perhaps Revell. That is too long ago but I recall owning a HMS Ark Royal and a Fairey Swordfish by Airfix. The later one was a present from my dad to my enrollment. The most beautiful model I had was a Tirpitz by AMT. My dad helped me and we painted it with the white, green and blue camouflage she had in 1944. Truely magnificent.
That is probably a good point re: weight, never considered that. If you have ever seen "patton", in the aftermath of Kasserine Pass, "Bradley" tells Patton a list of complaints by the soldiers where they feel that German equipment is superior, including "our tanks run on gas, theirs are diesels" in other words, less fire-risk presumably. ..but it was a misconception. But yes many of those Jpn Type 97 Type 99 tanks such as portrayed in "the Pacific" series were Mitsubishi diesels.
@KateLicker Patton's one of my favourites. Bradley says after the scene you described that the soldiers called their tanks "purple heart boxes".
I once read that the Americans made a statistic in which they calculated in a tank to tank battle a loss of five Shermans for one knocked out Panther. So I'd say the Germans had some good designs.
They started "The Pacific" two weeks ago on German TV. Well worth seeing. The Russians had diesels and solved the weight problem with aluminium engines.
I made the Kriegsmarine ships but only the airfix offerings, of course they had a Tirpitz and a Bismarck probably identical kits. They also had a Scharnhorst which was always very popular, not the probably identical Gneisenau , but the famous Graf Spee. I used to see the Revell and other unidentified brand kits of the German ships, but never had one.Someone had a large scale Prinz Eugen kit, as I recall."the Lucky ship", eh.
But when I saw the Japanese IJN kits 1/550, 1/700, 1/450 scalers
@KateLicker I also had Graf Spee and her sister Deutschland but both by Italeri. My Me 323 was also Italeri. Italeri also has a nice collection of 1/35 scale model kits. My Firefly and Tiger-Ferdinand were Italeri, too.
My Scharnhorst and Gneisenau were Revell. I presume you built this Japanese waterline series of ships. A whole fleet of these probably looks Impressive.
Have you checked out my Kriegsmarine videos? I also made one about Prinz Eugen.
they captured my imagination far more, I realized.
Far nicer to fight a naval war on warm blue water , than the bleak North Atlantic scene for example on the cover of Ludwig Kennedys "Pursuit"..one of the best older books on the "Bismarck"
Ive never seen kits of the SMS ships, Ive seen one beautiful custom-made model of maybe "Breslau" or something, but I am sure someone kits the "Imperial" ships, they would have to, obviously they were beautiful.
@KateLicker more sharks, too in warm, tropical waters. I read Pursuit, woefully after Ballard's book and another book written by a survivor. I was a bit disappointed by the size of 150 pages and the partly sensational style but this book was nevertheless the source material for the "Sink the Bismarck" movie. I found Menace. Did you know that Kennedy's father died on HMS Rawalpindi which was sunk by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau? Kennedy also dubbed some docus for BBC.
@KateLicker An Ukrainian brand named ICM produces German WWI battleships in the scale 1/350. I had "SMS Großer Kurfürst" by ICM, the last model I built and "SMS Emden" and "SMS Dresden" by Revell. I painted Emden white and yellow as she was painted during her duty in the tropics. I find those WWI ships beautiful, too. The bead of the bows, the decorations, the sum of funels - very beautiful indeed.
No, I had no idea about Kennedys father, although Ive heard of Rawalpindi, went the way of the Jarvis Bay almost the same.He guested actually as himself in the TV series "Yes Minister", I liked Pursuit even though I could see its limitations having only the most conservative possible explanations for such things as HMS Hood..nothing about the possibility of Eugen's fire indirectly blowing Hood up.Good point about the T34 engines..somehow they could even run them on wood gases
@KateLicker My father watched "Yes Minister", I was too young. I liked Menace by Kennedy. By the way, I mistook Kennedy's "Pursuit" with Forester's "Sink the Bismarck". Stupid me, I apologize.
The Germans also had cars and trucks which run on wood gas.
no, I havent seen the Eugen vids yet..I had a copy of the book on Eugen, if you have ever seen it, it actually had its own 60s/70s paperback bio book.
Funny with your TA152, FROG kits brought out a beautiful little "defence of the Reich" markings 1/72 kit of the TA152 just before they went out of business.
It took me until not many years ago to register that the point of the TA152 was not just a refined FW190D, but that it uses the DB engines for high altitude.
the sink the Bismarck" movie is an old favorite love it dearly, it especially well depicts the Swordfish attacks for a 1960 UK movie with not much budget.
But there is much fiction in it, of course. The Kenneth More Captain controlling the battle at Admiralty never existed, neither did the "HMS Solent" that becomes the last British casualty at the final battle.
yes, Ive read some little book on Bismarck which was much more simple-minded almost like it was for "junior-reader", perhaps this was the Forrester, I dont know, I know it had much more dialogue/conversations between crew members, but it was not much of a book.
Yes, they portrayed Lutjens as a hyper-ventilating Nazi..perhaps in the 'Marine this type would not have been popular.
Another innacuracy in movie is that one Swordfish was shown shot-down in each attack, but none were.
@KateLicker I read Lütjens was a reserved, incommunicative monarchist who suffered under depressions.
Yup, sunken HMS Solent and a shot down Swordfish. I recall the pilot was the son of Kenneth Moore who served on HMS Ark Royal. I presume this was all included to make Bismarck look more dangerous and the movie more dramatic.
Recent classic old navy movies we have had here is "the Key" which is about ocean-going tugs battling U-Boats...also "Gift Horse" which is based loosely on the LendLease 4-pipers "Cambelltown" and St Nazaire raid.
Those old US destroyers are portrayed at least twice in movies, the "Ward" is the same type of ship which opens fire on the midget Japanese sub in Tora Tora Tora..
Did you know there is an Italian version of "Das Boot"...was called Torpedo Bay, and is not bad movie.
@KateLicker Haven't seen none of those movies, sorry. I've seen Pursuit of the Graf Spee, The Enemy Below, The Sea Chase, several Japanese war movies and so on.
Did you know there is an Italian version of "Das Boot"...was called "Torpedo Bay" , although it has a different name in US market, , and is not bad movie.Was years before Das Boot, and is almost like Das Boot meets "the Cruel Sea" , with an Italian sub in Med. They actually did an ok job on it.
Italians did their own movie on El Alamein, as well, and is likewise not so bad.
@KateLicker Haven't seen Torpedo Bay, sorry. I recall this El Alamein movie. Robert Hossein as Rommel and Michael Rennie as Montgommery. I loved the model tanks as a kid but now I feel unintentionally amused watching this. It's like watching the tanks in a Godzilla movie. What do you think of "The Thin Red Line"?
@DrGull1888 ..Yes...one of the Swordfish was actually badly damaged by a near-miss exploding underneath it, its floor blown out and they were lightly wounded by splinters, but it staggered off and ditched far away, and they were picked up..Sorry, I hate the 90s Thin Red Line because of all the esoteric LSD-like stuff..Japanese who are praying in the middle of a hand-to-hand battle, its crazy, LOL..Lutjens monarchist, eh, I guess many of the KM were imperial-minded perhaps..
@KateLicker I meant the Bismarck movie. One Swordfish was shot down and the pilot was Kenneth Moore's movie son.
I found "The Thin Red Line" good but not outstanding. The ethnic singing was tedious.
Yes, many were monarchists. They learned their profession under Wilhelm II. and the Imperial German Navy didn't know the preference of nobility like the army did. That shapes the character.
2 of my favorite Pacific War movies, apart from the endless COMSUBPAC ones, some of which were ok of course, were the two Jeffrey Hunter movies.."From HELL to Eternity" (not to be confused Here to eternity" this one is easy to find, but also the rarer "No Man is An Island"...this is about a US land sailor who is trapped on Guam island when the Japanese invade, several escape but only he survives, and fights a one-man geurilla war for the next 2 years..is actually quite good.
@KateLicker I recall from Hell to Eternity. That's the one with the Marine who was adopted by a Japanese family. Mr Zulu also takes part in this. Haven't seen No Man is an Island. I like "Hell in the Pacific" with Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune. Mifune by the way played Yamamoto in a Japanese biopic of the admiral and in this Midway movie with Charlton Heston. I also like "Bridge on the River Kwai".
looks like this site will no accept Photobucket links, I would show you my novel photographs from Pearl Harbor last year..I took one interesting one through the ring gunsights of a USN 40mm Gun looking up into the sky past a palm tree.. it came out well.
& also the Israeli AVIA Me109G at the IAF desert museum....photographed most of the planes & they also had some tanks and halftracks APCs and SAMs at that place....a very unusual peace-time German plane called a Dornier 26 or 28
@KateLicker Sent it in a personal message to my account. You can post links there.
That's bitter irony isn't it. The first delivered weapons to Israel were Panzer IV and Me 109. I read those German weapons were sold by Czechoslowakia.
The Do 26 was a flying boat while the Do 28 was a transporter.
No Man is an Island is good, was just looking up the DVD on Amazon, they have it..yes, same main actor. George Takei was in "HellEtermity" was he? Makes sense...he was also a South Vietnamese soldier in "green Berets"..he threatens to "kill all filthy Cong" -unquote...brings to mind that very hard to get book about ex SS soldiers fighting for the French Legion in Indochina..most of the Israeli Me's are actually Czech-made Mes with junkers-jumo engines...terrible planes, apparently
Yes, Ive got a good pic of that Dornier here, must be the '28, large rectangular high wing on top of the cockpit, , two engines, fixed spatted undercarriage..
I didnt even know the Israelis had German tanks, although they have operated almost every kind of tank from every country in the world..even French Somua and AMX tanks..makes sense, both Europe and North Africa would have had junk-yards filled with German vehicles.The North Koreans in 1950 even had some IJA/IJN planes.
@KateLicker Fixed spatted undercarriage sounds like Do 28.
I presume the Israelis couldn't be all too selective during the first Arab-Israeli-War.
When the Soviets sacked the Kwantung Army in Northern China in 1945, they captured a huge amount of material. They gave this to Mao in front of the eyes of the Americans and tipped the balance towards Mao in the Chinese Civil War. After Mao had won he gave those obsolete weapons to his allies the North Koreans.
Rcently they showed here a series "Hitler"s Bodyguard" about 7 parts, a lot of it was repetitive stuff that has been shown elsewhere many times, a Guido Knopp style show, but made by Nugus Martin..but there was one fascinating episode, dealing only with the VIP aircraft and pilots who flew Hitler around.ju52s, FW200s,& those older pre-war ones.This was original, never seen this subject b4, was fascinating.there was another on the VIP trains like "Amerika" but I missed that one.
@KateLicker You know Guido Knopp?!? His early docus were nice but after twenty years of the same shit I get very weary of him. Even good stuff isn't done by him but copied from acclaimed German publicists like Sebastian Haffner or Joachim Fest.
Yes, on our "SBS" "multicultural/Foreign" TV channel here, which is a combination of half foreign movies and TV and half English, Guido Knopp's many series seem to come up every few weeks, every single aspect of Nazi Germany and Hitlers Henchmen pulled apart, over and over.
You know what is perhaps the most popular foreign TV series here, with a cult following? Inspektor Rex and Stockinger. to a lesser extent, Derrick"
in the 80s was a show about two german truck drivers, titles translated was "truckies" .."Hans Meersdonk and Gunther Willers, und Ihre LKW Machinen..Drei Hundert und Funfzig BHP...they deliver anywhere, anytime..you can depend on them."
.my late grandmother loved that show.
Good travel logue, because they drove their trucks to other countries, even as far as Finland, Italy Egypt and Iran..
@KateLicker Truckies. The German title is "Auf Achse". I loved this series as kid. I even had the board game to this. Inspektor Rex, Stockinger and Derrick. Jesus, it's a small world after all.
They send here a lot of Australian TV series, too. They send McLeod's Daughters every day which is loyally watched by my grandma. I recall Neighbours and the Flying Doctors which I haven't watched and Farscape which I watched from time to time. I also recall Skippy the Kangaroo.
Flying Doctors and McLeods Daughters I watched casually, but I didnt like the male lead in McLeods...is made in Gawler in South Australia, I think...is apparently incredibly popular on USA cables, especially in the South.Only problem with McLeods Daughters is perhaps the same illusion as Dukes of Hazard..and that is, that in any small country town, unlike in McLeods and Hazard, most of the women are not so attractive as this, not in America, not in Australia either.
@KateLicker Indeed, McLeod's Daughters are hot. But selling unreal beau ideals was always part of the show business. I watched Dukes of Hazard as kid, too. I presume TV brought me up.
What I can recommend, if you like gritty crime shows, is the more serious True Crime dramatizations such as the various " Underbelly " series, such as "Golden Mile", which is about the Sydney red light area Kings Cross, and "tale of Two Cities" which is about 1970s/1980s organized crime...this was quite well done, and very entertaining although brutal and chilling.It can be watched online I think on channel 9 website, or it could not long ago.
I like science fiction but to be honest I'm not set on a special genre. At the moment I don't miss The Pacific, The Tudors, Battlestar Galactica and together with my GF Desperate Housewives.
the recent two-part "Kokoda" series on ABC-tv also, was quite well done including good re-enactments comments from surviving Japanese veterans, not to be confused with the 'Kokoda' movie, which was questionable. Its about the savage campaign in New Guinea 1942-44, of course.This was able to be "i-view" watched on ABC site , but im not sure if it would still be up.
ABC is Australian version of BBC, btw, nothing to do with US ABC.
@KateLicker I believe I've seen this. There was a channel here on youtube named 20thcenturywar. It had all the Guido Knopp docus, some BBC and History Channel docus and a docu about Kokoda. Perhaps this was yours, Sadly this channel was shut down this Spring.
I would have shot Blamey, too, after his Rabbit Speech.
I love Desperate Housewives, never miss it. I can take the American soaps, provided theyre well done. I guess the crime and cops shows are my final favorites, provided its top quality like Wire or Shield or Boomtown.
Currently I follow a teen soap which is actually connected with something I am not even interested in-American highschool Football team--but the show is so well acted and scripted, i love it. "Friday Night Lights" set in small-town Texas.
@KateLicker The Shield is pretty good. just watched a few episodes but the Michael Chilkis character is tuff. He also played the Thing in the failed Fantastic Four Movie.
I watched the Pacific and its good, but some people were disappointed compared to the standard of Band of Brothers...but the battle scenes were still brutal and high standard. It is made about 80kms west of here, or that was their production base. People I know are in the militaria collectors items and museum military vehicles business here, they actually provided many of the jeeps, trucks, and the AMTRAC Buffalo thing used.
Hanks and Spielbergs company tried to get the hire of all those uniforms and weapons and vehicles for free, actually almost demanded them, but these guys refused, in the end, they got 20 or 25k or something off them for hire, which was better than nothing but a pittance compared to their budget.
Ha, "Desperate Housewives"...I used to dream desperately of Terri Hatcher in the 1990s , she looked so hot even as a guest on Seinfeld..but now she is making herself too skinny.
@KateLicker Producers always try to depress the prices but demanding for free is outrageous.
Terry Hatcher was hot in this Superman series but I didn't like her in James Bond. She had terrible hair and the camera seemed to concentrate on her birth mark on her labial angle. Our favourite Desperate Housewife is Bree - Marcia Cross.
the documentary you saw on Kokoda perhaps sounds like the correct one, if they told the full story of the infamous Run Rabbit Run remarks slur by Blamey, who was a Schweinhund..Run Rabbit Run was also an old quaint record song popular in rural Australian famers back then.
Later after Blamey, a politician named Frank Forde , Minister for the Army, went up there and actually lectured them about they were dragging their feet, should make a greater effort.Then safely returned home
"Sons Of Anarchy" outlaw motorcycle gang. Made by same people who made the Shield, even Jay Karnes was a guest in it. They run a small town almost and deal illegal firearms. The female lead is "peggy" from "Married with children" Katey sagal. Entertaining and lurid.
"Mad Men " character drama set in ad agency in Kennedys era US-fabulous.
"Over*There"..Iraq war drama, slightly soapy but good.Good Photography and sets.
@KateLicker I love Katey Segal. She voiced the female lead in the science fiction satire series "Futurama". Series I've completely on DVD are Star Trek, Star Trek Next Generation, Voyager, Enterprise, Deep Space Nine, Space Center Babylon 5, Futurama. I also watch Southpark online on their homepage.
Yes, perhaps her hair was a little off in the James Bond, I was still shocked and sorry to see her die, she definitely strikes a note with me, when she was on Seinfeld melted me down almost completely. She was a a recurring guest-role as an accident-prone 'bubble-head" in "McIvor", with hideous 80s "big hair" I admit, I wouldnt have taken her so seriously if that was all i saw of her.
I didnt even know this about Blamey & Greece, although i know that the 6th Division was blamed by Churchill in a similiar way to 8th Division blamed by British for Singapore.I had his biog here twice, sold it on ebay, but didnt bother reading it myself. Have a good vid docu of Monash and Western Front , who is a much more admirable character, although not spotless.A good vhs docu of Singapore and 8 division, with fabulous commentary by pissed-off soldiers....
@KateLicker Oh, Monash. He was a victim of defamation due to his Prussian-Jewish origin. That a commander should care for his troops like Monash did and not pointlessly sacrifice them, was beyond the horizon of Monash's superiors.
The Australian war effort was always a bit deemphasized by her allies. There's also this unfair statement by George Marshall where he implyed a low will to fight after the first setbacks at Kokoda.
In a similiar way to Greece, Bennett was scapegoated for evacuating himself from singapore similiar to Macarthur in Corregidor, never given another combat command although the most aggressive general in Malaya, who achieved what little success was achieved, probably blamed also by this hypocrite Blamey.
On that tape is a good one about Indian Army Ww2, including collaborationist Bhose Indian National Army, fascinating, theres a subject you dont hear much of from Guido Knopp.
@KateLicker The same with Claude Auchinleck. He was the one who stopped Rommel at El Alamein but was replaced.
Chandra Bhose is a very interesting subject. Some day I want to make a video about him. He was married to a German, helped to build up the Free India Legion, was transported to Burma by a German sub and died in a plane crash. Today he is still treasured in India as freedom fighter.
Yes, that was a lot of the point of this docu about Indian army and Bhose, that those troops who were British loyal, were treated like shit after the war, but not only by Britain, by India. They were denied Indian pensions, whereas the Bhose men were incredibly given them.I didnt know he was married to a German, how would that have sit with the racial laws?Died on a Japanese plane. I wonder if the British would have hanged him anyway after the war. He had a Burmese equivalent
@KateLicker I was mistaken again. He was married to an Austrian who became German in 1938. They married before the "Anschluss" in 1938. I presume the Nazi's tolerated their marriage because Bose became useful for them.
The Brits granted amnesty to the leaders of Free India Army to avoid uprisings in India. Perhaps they would have locked Bose up and he eventually would have been set free after India's independence. But that's pure speculation.
the British hanged his Burmese counterpart, no messing around. I guess the politics of psot-war pre-independence India would have been too big for the British to execute Bhose...incredible for them to respect the INA men, would be like the French respecting Vichy after the war.Didnt they know how low an opinion the Japanese had of Indians?They absolutely despised them, as they showed with the Indian prisoners from Malaya.In Burma, of course, the two Indian armies actually met.
@KateLicker Well, the French condemned the leaders of Vichy. Many were soon pardoned. The same in Germany of the 1950ies by the way. A real workup of Vichy's collaboration in the Shoa or actions against Communists and the Resistance came in the 1990ies under Chirac.
The Indians would certainly have replaced the one exploiter with the other if the Japanese and Germans prevailed.
Speaking of Nazis in Asia, our SBS I have told you so much about recently profiled this Germany diplomat fellow who did much to save the Chinese in Nanking in 1937 Massacres...such a strange story, especially how he died in obscure poverty in Germany and was completely convinced that Hitler would strongly protest to the Japanese about atrocities in China.I cant recall his name, but you most probably know who I am referring to.
@KateLicker The guy's name was John Rabe. He was an agent for Siemens in China.
Well, National China and Germany had very good relations until 1937. Germany sent military instructors like general Hans von Seeckt, former head of Reichswehr, helped to train the army and built up industry, delivered He 111, Panzer II, uniforms and rifles. Even the son of Chiang Kai-shek was trained to be a mountain rifle man (Gebirgsjäger) in Mittenwald. But since 1937 Hitler started to prefer Japan.
I forgot to mention, yes, I am familiar with this program on Robert S McNamara, in fact I have it here recorded from last time it was screened here, one very similiar has been called "the 11 (or 12 or 13, some number like that) things I learned in business and War".
Yes, it highlights the grim mathematics of Le Mays fireraids on Japan, but I actually love the later parts on Cuba missiles and Kennedys/Johnstons America..began reading "miracle at Midway" this afternoon.
@KateLicker I'd say McNamarra lived in general a very interesting live.
Miracle at Midway is by Prange. I owe At Dawn We Slept but haven't started it yet. I read at the moment both parts of Eisenhower's White House Years. But I'm not beyond the campaign.
enjoying this book by the Page 60 mark, is certainly quality examination, but he has made a couple of surprisi ng errors for a Naval historian, most notably referring to HMAS Australia as a "battlewagon" in the actual context of meaning it to be an actual battleship.It was just a Kent-style County cruiser.
You need one of those deafening oriental gong-cymbal crashes which always accompanied a Japanese periscope breaking water or other first sighting of other Japanese forces in 50s and 60s Hollywood war movies.
@KateLicker Thanks. Yes, it's the opening from Tora Tora Tora. It's from an album which also included Patton.
There are also some nice Japanese themes with Tong-drums like in Rising Sun or Pearl Harbor. I also recall a nice Japanese theme with xylophone, silent, slow but still menacing. It was in "In Harms Way" also composed by Jerry Goldsmith.
So many memories of Japanese battleship and cruiser model kits I had in the 1970s..I think I can recall most of their names..Chokai, Mogami, Hiei, Ise, Haruna,Akagi, Sendai or Yubari or one of the other light cruisers, Taiho, and of course the essential Yamato/Musashi....the enormous "Pagoda"s such as at your vid 0.29.
They really were by far the most interesting WW2 navy...the equivalent of the mesmerizing fascination of the Luftwaffe's planes.
Yes, Ive seen In Harms way a couple of times but I dont recall the score from it.
Strange movie as a kind of blend of strains of fact elements of Leyte Gulf, but somehow brought years forward so that that somehow happens soon after Pearl Harbor..the title itself "in Harms Way" was from the words of a Captain Evans who commanded the suicidal charge of the destroyer escorts Hoel, Johnston and Roberts at the action where one of the jeep carriers was sunk by Japanese surface ships.
@KateLicker Indeed, some of the actions in "In Harms Way" reminded me of second Savo Island and Surigao Strait. I didn't know where the title came from. Thanks for posting.
at the outbreak of wwii, Japan had some of the best cruisers and destroyers in the world. They fought savagely in the SW Pacific and inflicted high casualties even against radar equipped Allied ships.
but what I am not missing is your work and effort into putting this fine video together, researchers like yourself make it possible for those like us to continue to learn. good work dr. gull keep it going.
cant say much about the leadership of IJN. the crews appeared to be poorly trained and they lost 90% of their fleet as well as the war, what am I missing here ????
@TheAlliswell Poorly trained? Certainly not during the first part of the Pacific war. And to the lost of 90% of the fleet and the war, well, the best navy can't help when your enemies are all too legion.
Since this is a slide show about the Imperial Japanese Navy I dunno what you are missing.
These were the only land-based Naval airforce with any record of finding and effectively attacking heavy warships at sea....easily the most efficient carrier-borne airmen well into 1942...the most effective fleet surface ships in night gunnery and torpedo attack.
we should respect the imperial japanese navy they were really experienced too and wat was the biggest japanese battle ship i think its called otaku yamamoto correct me if im wrong
Yes, Yamato was most awesome, especially because of her size. She is only topped by super-tankers and nuclear powered aircraft carriers.
I, as a incurable romantic, prefer those WWI battleships like Nagato and Fuso. Fuso for her bizarre pagoda mast and Nagato for she marks the passage between old BB design to modern BB design.
The "tall" battleship design is called a "Pagoda Mast" and very common in just about every other Japanese WW2 ship. I can name about twenty Japanese WW2 ship clases and close to thirty or fourty individual ships. The two super dreadnaughts Fuso and her awesome and better sister Yamashiro were the best Japanese ships ever built despite how old they were. Mogami class heavy cruisers and Nagato came in second.
The Pagoda Mast is an interesting story. Everytime some new equipment was invented, they put a new platform on or to the mast, which resulted in the pagoda shape. I read that Japan wanted to replace Fuso-class in the mid 1940ies, which was prevented by the war.
A lot of those ships did have beautiful lines. And even those that were not beautiful were certainly interesting to look at. Unfortunately, I understand they were quite uncomfortable to serve in, and they usually met very grim fates.
The best heavy cruisers and destroyers of II WW were Japanese and their victories were remarkable, like Java, Savo, Tassafaronga, Kula and Komandorsky. Tassafaronga, in particular, has no match in Naval History.
CaxiasFreguesia 1 week ago
@CaxiasFreguesia Indeed. Thanks to Tanaka's leading skills and the Long Lance.
DrGull1888 1 week ago
why hosho no Bridge
crunchymix 8 months ago
@crunchymix This sort of ship without tower or island is called flush deck carrier. The bridge is at the hull.
DrGull1888 8 months ago
0:29 - 0:34 , Thats Minorou Genda! the man who brought pearl harbor to fruition, a shame he never got to see his 85th birthday, he died of a heart attack one day before it.
joboss63 10 months ago
good video Thank you a lot!
999asia999 11 months ago
長門はいいのう
nagato is cool
amdkuma 1 year ago
長門はいいのう
amdkuma 1 year ago
japs got the best navy n airforce,but their army and navy weapon sucks,too outdated
kamikazeboy123 1 year ago
@kamikazeboy123 Well to be honest they had the Allied powers on the run.
As they began what the japanese called and I qoute The Great East Asia war they launched an attack on the US pacific Fleet in which they damaged the fleet and sunk two of its battleships the USS.Arizona and the USS.Utah the Utah was just used for traning but was still a battleship and are still there today.
other battleships like the USS.Oklahoma Capsied but where recovered...
thebritish25 1 year ago
@kamikazeboy123 Then on the 10th of December two days after the attack on Pearl the Japanese sunk Force Z of the coast of Malaya a British task force in which was the HMS.Prince of Wales the last allied battleship in the pacific Churchill said the next day "In all the war, I never received a more direct shock... As I turned over and twisted in bed the full horror of the news sank in upon me. There were no British or American ships in the Indian Ocean or the Pacific except...
thebritish25 1 year ago
@thebritish25 .., no US ships in the Pacific is complete nonsense. The biggest threat to the IJN in the Pacific was the US aircraft carriers not US or RN battleships. Roughly six months l8tr at the Battle of Midway was a clash of opposing aircraft carrier task forces not battleships.
The Pearl Harbor attack failed to touch the US Pacific Fleets fuel bunkers, drydocks and repair facilites along with the deepest natural depth of Pearl Harbor being 39 ft. all above spelled disaster for the IJN.
fluffy1931 9 months ago
@fluffy1931 You do know that at one point the Allies only had one opperation Aircraft carrier the USS.Enterprise as the Saratoga was OoA the Hornet Scuttled the rest sunk.
And at Midway the US was very lucky to discovered the Japanese carriers with there guard down and a mass of ammo fule and planes on the decks.
thebritish25 9 months ago
@thebritish25 ..,luck has very little to do with IJN failing roughly 6-mths earlier during Dec 7 1941' attack at Pearl Harbor to knockout the US Pacific Fleets, fuel bunkers, dry docks and repair facilities that would come back to haunt them,..27 May, Pearl Harbor workers made enough repairs on the heavly damaged Yorktown to enable the ship to put to sea. Instead of the IJN facing off against just 2 US aircraft carriers they actually faced off against 3. Enterprise and Hornet & Yorktown.
fluffy1931 9 months ago
@fluffy1931 While the US had to face off 4 Japanese carriers remember the US intercepted the japanese and broke there code otherwise Midway whould have not had a sufficant force it would have fallen and the Japs would have gained the upper hand.
deffeat was very close for the US and the rest of the allies but do to determinaton luck and Axis mistakes/ bad planning we won.
thebritish25 9 months ago
@thebritish25 ..Yorktown being repaired in the untouched repair facilities at Pearl Harbor or the other US aircraft carriers being replenished / fuel from untouched fuel bunkers which the Japanese failed to strike on Dec.7 nothing to do with luck. On Jun 3 a US PBY 6-V-55 spotted IJN Kondo's Main Body, Tanaka's Invasion Force, Kurita's Close Support Force and Fujita's Seaplane Tender Group.
Both Nimitz and Fletcher repositioned US forces based on Jun3 reports not anything to do with codes.
fluffy1931 9 months ago
@kamikazeboy123 the American survivors of Pearl Harbor, who were hastening back to California. Over all this vast expanse of waters Japan was supreme, and we everywhere were weak and naked"
At which point the allied forces where so weak there fleets had to bind together under ABDACOM ( Australia British Dutch America Comand im not sure what the OM stands for) in which they had one major battle to stop the japanese invasion of Java called the battle of the Java sea..
thebritish25 1 year ago
@thebritish25,The OM is part of COM for command!
TheCharlie359 1 year ago
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Imagine how bad the situation for the allies would have been if those few ships had not survived Pearl Habour. Japan was clearly the king of the sea until Midway at least before things started going badly.
ss90ss444 1 year ago
@ss90ss444
what few ships? the few obsolete carriers and battleships absent? even if they had been sunk, Japan had completely failed to damage the Pacific fleet's refuelling, drydocking, repairing and shipbuilding capability. Look at the onslaught of Indy, Bogue and Essex class carriers that were produced.
HelmutVillam 11 months ago
@kamikazeboy123 in which it was a disaster when the ABDACOM flagship HNLMS.Der Ruyter was sunk.
my point is that outdated it my have been but it still had the allies on the ropes untill the battle of Laette Gulf where japan lost its carrier advantage in 1944.
thebritish25 1 year ago
@DrGull1888
Yes, Evans said something close to
"Gentleman, I intend to go in harm's Way"
He was a native American, apparently, and I dont think he survived this battle where his little ships perhaps saved most of the "jeeps"..
I made a ton of the Jpn models, ships, tanks & planes including in an era where Jpn kits were not as well respected as now.
2 books I can recommend, "i-Boat Captain" if you have not already read this..& "Battle Surface-japans submarine war against Australia"
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I built more German stuff, you know, Bismarck, Tirpitz, King Tiger, Me 262 and so on. The last model I built was in the late 1990ies a German dreadnought. Nope, wait, I presented my godchild a model of Bismarck which we built last Winter.
No I haven't read those books. Thanks for the recommendation. I read "The Pacific Campaign" by Dan van der Vat which was the first English book I read, The Battle of Leyte Gulf by Kenneth Friedman and Guadalcanal by Robert Ballard.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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Only Ballard book I have is "Lost Ships of Guadalcanal"
I have seen some fantastic documentaries in the last 12 months.A Japanese one about the Kamikazes, 90 mins long. One about the modern JSDF, something a little different subject you never hear of. A Canadian one about the Sakai/F4F/SBD dogfight over the Solomons, which was mentioned in "lost Ships..and a WW1 German 2-part UK one called "hunt the Kaiser's cruisers"..WW1 German navy re Dresden/Emden/Konigsberg.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I have a few Ballard books. My favourite are "The Discovery of the Bismarck" followed by his Guadalcanal book.
I know the latter documentaries. When you've read some good books to a subject then a docu can't be satisfying. To the German East Asia squadron I can recomment the book "The Battles of Coronel and Falkland" by Geoffrey Bennett. A good documentary I once saw was "The Fog of War" with Robert McNamarra. The first 30 min are about his role in the air war against Japan.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
Tanks...many kits of Tiger I, King Tiger,Jagd Panther or Jagd tiger, and even a Mk III..
Russian T34s and Su85s..
always motorized ones..great until the little plastic drive gears wore out.
then you had a genuine unreliable 50-tonne Tiger having teething troubles at Kursk/ Tunisia..Isnt it odd the way that German AFVs are always assumed to be diesels,,this was mentioned in Patton the movie, but they all run on gasoline. Ironically, the little tin can Japanese tanks were often diesels.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I had no motorized ones. I used them as dust catchers. I had some tanks by Matchbox and Tamiya. Tiger, King Tiger, Jagdpanther, Puma, M7 Priest, Sherman Firefly, Stuart, Bishop, M3 Grant and so on. I even had a Mörser Karl, a 60cm mortar. The Matchbox line was later sold to Revell hence the identical dioramas and casting frames.
I presume a gasoline engine had more power than a diesel. I also read they used gasoline engines to spare weight.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
@DrGull1888
I-boat Captain is fairly readily available on Amazon and ebay..
He co-authors with an American from Annopis but tells a fantastic account of his and others exploits in the Japanese subs.
"Battle surface'" is actually an Australian book,in lesser supply, is quite large heavy hardcover , more expensive and costs more to post international due to its weight, but its quality in both text and diagrams is amazing.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker If you want some good informations about the second Sino-Japanese War which blend into WWII read "Mao: The unknown Story" by Jung Chang. A good book about WWII in general would be the book by Polish military historian Janusz Piekałkiewicz. He also wrote a standart work about WWI. To the Russo-Japanese War I can recomment books by Geoffry Jukes and A.E. Almedingen.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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Yes, the familiar Luftwaffe planes...noone didnt love those.
the Commando comics with the beautiful cover artwork which would feature a 'story" revolving around one of the less usual Luftwaffe planes such as Hs129, Me323, Dornier "Pfeil" , FW189, Ju188,Heinkel Zwilling and perhaps even the Blohm and Voss asymetric aircraft.
the fantastic yarn where 2 British desert prisoners escape in a Fiesler "Storch"...and a Stuka pursues them.They must "dogfight" the Stuka.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Ha! I had the first three planes as models. Me 323 was ugly as shit but easy to built and also very dominating at my ceiling. I realy liked the FW TA 152. She had handsome, sleek lines.
Commando Comics aren't availale in Germany or at least hard to get. But there are a lot of French and Belgian comics about WWII. I have two beautiful comics by French artist Dimitri about Tsushima and a German WWII submarine. Beautiful drawn in watercolor and bound as hardcover.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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the 60s/70s Commando comics? Worth it for the cover-art.
At the back would be a preview of the next months issues, with a caption like "The Race is on.!..for Junes New Commandos! "...and the drawing would be a huge desert dust-cloud with an 8-Tonne Halftrack,a Kubelwagen or SchwimWagen, and a Zundapp or BMW sidecar with goggles-down DAKS riders racing furiously ahead of the cloud, for the new comics.
Yes, TA152 was a beautiful machine..an airfix Dora 9 was in fact the second
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I don't know if my FW-190 was an Airfix model or perhaps Revell. That is too long ago but I recall owning a HMS Ark Royal and a Fairey Swordfish by Airfix. The later one was a present from my dad to my enrollment. The most beautiful model I had was a Tirpitz by AMT. My dad helped me and we painted it with the white, green and blue camouflage she had in 1944. Truely magnificent.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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That is probably a good point re: weight, never considered that. If you have ever seen "patton", in the aftermath of Kasserine Pass, "Bradley" tells Patton a list of complaints by the soldiers where they feel that German equipment is superior, including "our tanks run on gas, theirs are diesels" in other words, less fire-risk presumably. ..but it was a misconception. But yes many of those Jpn Type 97 Type 99 tanks such as portrayed in "the Pacific" series were Mitsubishi diesels.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Patton's one of my favourites. Bradley says after the scene you described that the soldiers called their tanks "purple heart boxes".
I once read that the Americans made a statistic in which they calculated in a tank to tank battle a loss of five Shermans for one knocked out Panther. So I'd say the Germans had some good designs.
They started "The Pacific" two weeks ago on German TV. Well worth seeing. The Russians had diesels and solved the weight problem with aluminium engines.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
I made the Kriegsmarine ships but only the airfix offerings, of course they had a Tirpitz and a Bismarck probably identical kits. They also had a Scharnhorst which was always very popular, not the probably identical Gneisenau , but the famous Graf Spee. I used to see the Revell and other unidentified brand kits of the German ships, but never had one.Someone had a large scale Prinz Eugen kit, as I recall."the Lucky ship", eh.
But when I saw the Japanese IJN kits 1/550, 1/700, 1/450 scalers
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I also had Graf Spee and her sister Deutschland but both by Italeri. My Me 323 was also Italeri. Italeri also has a nice collection of 1/35 scale model kits. My Firefly and Tiger-Ferdinand were Italeri, too.
My Scharnhorst and Gneisenau were Revell. I presume you built this Japanese waterline series of ships. A whole fleet of these probably looks Impressive.
Have you checked out my Kriegsmarine videos? I also made one about Prinz Eugen.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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they captured my imagination far more, I realized.
Far nicer to fight a naval war on warm blue water , than the bleak North Atlantic scene for example on the cover of Ludwig Kennedys "Pursuit"..one of the best older books on the "Bismarck"
Ive never seen kits of the SMS ships, Ive seen one beautiful custom-made model of maybe "Breslau" or something, but I am sure someone kits the "Imperial" ships, they would have to, obviously they were beautiful.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker more sharks, too in warm, tropical waters. I read Pursuit, woefully after Ballard's book and another book written by a survivor. I was a bit disappointed by the size of 150 pages and the partly sensational style but this book was nevertheless the source material for the "Sink the Bismarck" movie. I found Menace. Did you know that Kennedy's father died on HMS Rawalpindi which was sunk by Scharnhorst and Gneisenau? Kennedy also dubbed some docus for BBC.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
@KateLicker An Ukrainian brand named ICM produces German WWI battleships in the scale 1/350. I had "SMS Großer Kurfürst" by ICM, the last model I built and "SMS Emden" and "SMS Dresden" by Revell. I painted Emden white and yellow as she was painted during her duty in the tropics. I find those WWI ships beautiful, too. The bead of the bows, the decorations, the sum of funels - very beautiful indeed.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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No, I had no idea about Kennedys father, although Ive heard of Rawalpindi, went the way of the Jarvis Bay almost the same.He guested actually as himself in the TV series "Yes Minister", I liked Pursuit even though I could see its limitations having only the most conservative possible explanations for such things as HMS Hood..nothing about the possibility of Eugen's fire indirectly blowing Hood up.Good point about the T34 engines..somehow they could even run them on wood gases
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker My father watched "Yes Minister", I was too young. I liked Menace by Kennedy. By the way, I mistook Kennedy's "Pursuit" with Forester's "Sink the Bismarck". Stupid me, I apologize.
The Germans also had cars and trucks which run on wood gas.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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no, I havent seen the Eugen vids yet..I had a copy of the book on Eugen, if you have ever seen it, it actually had its own 60s/70s paperback bio book.
Funny with your TA152, FROG kits brought out a beautiful little "defence of the Reich" markings 1/72 kit of the TA152 just before they went out of business.
It took me until not many years ago to register that the point of the TA152 was not just a refined FW190D, but that it uses the DB engines for high altitude.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I read the Prinz Eugen book by Paul Schmalenbach.
Yup, TA 152 had a water-methanol injection for high altitude.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
@DrGull1888
the sink the Bismarck" movie is an old favorite love it dearly, it especially well depicts the Swordfish attacks for a 1960 UK movie with not much budget.
But there is much fiction in it, of course. The Kenneth More Captain controlling the battle at Admiralty never existed, neither did the "HMS Solent" that becomes the last British casualty at the final battle.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker As a kid, I found the model ships awesome. I didn't like that Lütjens was portrayed as strict Nazi.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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yes, Ive read some little book on Bismarck which was much more simple-minded almost like it was for "junior-reader", perhaps this was the Forrester, I dont know, I know it had much more dialogue/conversations between crew members, but it was not much of a book.
Yes, they portrayed Lutjens as a hyper-ventilating Nazi..perhaps in the 'Marine this type would not have been popular.
Another innacuracy in movie is that one Swordfish was shown shot-down in each attack, but none were.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I read Lütjens was a reserved, incommunicative monarchist who suffered under depressions.
Yup, sunken HMS Solent and a shot down Swordfish. I recall the pilot was the son of Kenneth Moore who served on HMS Ark Royal. I presume this was all included to make Bismarck look more dangerous and the movie more dramatic.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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Recent classic old navy movies we have had here is "the Key" which is about ocean-going tugs battling U-Boats...also "Gift Horse" which is based loosely on the LendLease 4-pipers "Cambelltown" and St Nazaire raid.
Those old US destroyers are portrayed at least twice in movies, the "Ward" is the same type of ship which opens fire on the midget Japanese sub in Tora Tora Tora..
Did you know there is an Italian version of "Das Boot"...was called Torpedo Bay, and is not bad movie.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Haven't seen none of those movies, sorry. I've seen Pursuit of the Graf Spee, The Enemy Below, The Sea Chase, several Japanese war movies and so on.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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Did you know there is an Italian version of "Das Boot"...was called "Torpedo Bay" , although it has a different name in US market, , and is not bad movie.Was years before Das Boot, and is almost like Das Boot meets "the Cruel Sea" , with an Italian sub in Med. They actually did an ok job on it.
Italians did their own movie on El Alamein, as well, and is likewise not so bad.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Haven't seen Torpedo Bay, sorry. I recall this El Alamein movie. Robert Hossein as Rommel and Michael Rennie as Montgommery. I loved the model tanks as a kid but now I feel unintentionally amused watching this. It's like watching the tanks in a Godzilla movie. What do you think of "The Thin Red Line"?
DrGull1888 1 year ago
@DrGull1888 ..Yes...one of the Swordfish was actually badly damaged by a near-miss exploding underneath it, its floor blown out and they were lightly wounded by splinters, but it staggered off and ditched far away, and they were picked up..Sorry, I hate the 90s Thin Red Line because of all the esoteric LSD-like stuff..Japanese who are praying in the middle of a hand-to-hand battle, its crazy, LOL..Lutjens monarchist, eh, I guess many of the KM were imperial-minded perhaps..
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I meant the Bismarck movie. One Swordfish was shot down and the pilot was Kenneth Moore's movie son.
I found "The Thin Red Line" good but not outstanding. The ethnic singing was tedious.
Yes, many were monarchists. They learned their profession under Wilhelm II. and the Imperial German Navy didn't know the preference of nobility like the army did. That shapes the character.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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2 of my favorite Pacific War movies, apart from the endless COMSUBPAC ones, some of which were ok of course, were the two Jeffrey Hunter movies.."From HELL to Eternity" (not to be confused Here to eternity" this one is easy to find, but also the rarer "No Man is An Island"...this is about a US land sailor who is trapped on Guam island when the Japanese invade, several escape but only he survives, and fights a one-man geurilla war for the next 2 years..is actually quite good.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I recall from Hell to Eternity. That's the one with the Marine who was adopted by a Japanese family. Mr Zulu also takes part in this. Haven't seen No Man is an Island. I like "Hell in the Pacific" with Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune. Mifune by the way played Yamamoto in a Japanese biopic of the admiral and in this Midway movie with Charlton Heston. I also like "Bridge on the River Kwai".
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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looks like this site will no accept Photobucket links, I would show you my novel photographs from Pearl Harbor last year..I took one interesting one through the ring gunsights of a USN 40mm Gun looking up into the sky past a palm tree.. it came out well.
& also the Israeli AVIA Me109G at the IAF desert museum....photographed most of the planes & they also had some tanks and halftracks APCs and SAMs at that place....a very unusual peace-time German plane called a Dornier 26 or 28
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Sent it in a personal message to my account. You can post links there.
That's bitter irony isn't it. The first delivered weapons to Israel were Panzer IV and Me 109. I read those German weapons were sold by Czechoslowakia.
The Do 26 was a flying boat while the Do 28 was a transporter.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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No Man is an Island is good, was just looking up the DVD on Amazon, they have it..yes, same main actor. George Takei was in "HellEtermity" was he? Makes sense...he was also a South Vietnamese soldier in "green Berets"..he threatens to "kill all filthy Cong" -unquote...brings to mind that very hard to get book about ex SS soldiers fighting for the French Legion in Indochina..most of the Israeli Me's are actually Czech-made Mes with junkers-jumo engines...terrible planes, apparently
KateLicker 1 year ago
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Yes, Ive got a good pic of that Dornier here, must be the '28, large rectangular high wing on top of the cockpit, , two engines, fixed spatted undercarriage..
I didnt even know the Israelis had German tanks, although they have operated almost every kind of tank from every country in the world..even French Somua and AMX tanks..makes sense, both Europe and North Africa would have had junk-yards filled with German vehicles.The North Koreans in 1950 even had some IJA/IJN planes.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Fixed spatted undercarriage sounds like Do 28.
I presume the Israelis couldn't be all too selective during the first Arab-Israeli-War.
When the Soviets sacked the Kwantung Army in Northern China in 1945, they captured a huge amount of material. They gave this to Mao in front of the eyes of the Americans and tipped the balance towards Mao in the Chinese Civil War. After Mao had won he gave those obsolete weapons to his allies the North Koreans.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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Rcently they showed here a series "Hitler"s Bodyguard" about 7 parts, a lot of it was repetitive stuff that has been shown elsewhere many times, a Guido Knopp style show, but made by Nugus Martin..but there was one fascinating episode, dealing only with the VIP aircraft and pilots who flew Hitler around.ju52s, FW200s,& those older pre-war ones.This was original, never seen this subject b4, was fascinating.there was another on the VIP trains like "Amerika" but I missed that one.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker You know Guido Knopp?!? His early docus were nice but after twenty years of the same shit I get very weary of him. Even good stuff isn't done by him but copied from acclaimed German publicists like Sebastian Haffner or Joachim Fest.
I had a FW200 by Revell. A beautiful design.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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Yes, on our "SBS" "multicultural/Foreign" TV channel here, which is a combination of half foreign movies and TV and half English, Guido Knopp's many series seem to come up every few weeks, every single aspect of Nazi Germany and Hitlers Henchmen pulled apart, over and over.
You know what is perhaps the most popular foreign TV series here, with a cult following? Inspektor Rex and Stockinger. to a lesser extent, Derrick"
KateLicker 1 year ago
@DrGull1888
in the 80s was a show about two german truck drivers, titles translated was "truckies" .."Hans Meersdonk and Gunther Willers, und Ihre LKW Machinen..Drei Hundert und Funfzig BHP...they deliver anywhere, anytime..you can depend on them."
.my late grandmother loved that show.
Good travel logue, because they drove their trucks to other countries, even as far as Finland, Italy Egypt and Iran..
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Truckies. The German title is "Auf Achse". I loved this series as kid. I even had the board game to this. Inspektor Rex, Stockinger and Derrick. Jesus, it's a small world after all.
They send here a lot of Australian TV series, too. They send McLeod's Daughters every day which is loyally watched by my grandma. I recall Neighbours and the Flying Doctors which I haven't watched and Farscape which I watched from time to time. I also recall Skippy the Kangaroo.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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Flying Doctors and McLeods Daughters I watched casually, but I didnt like the male lead in McLeods...is made in Gawler in South Australia, I think...is apparently incredibly popular on USA cables, especially in the South.Only problem with McLeods Daughters is perhaps the same illusion as Dukes of Hazard..and that is, that in any small country town, unlike in McLeods and Hazard, most of the women are not so attractive as this, not in America, not in Australia either.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Indeed, McLeod's Daughters are hot. But selling unreal beau ideals was always part of the show business. I watched Dukes of Hazard as kid, too. I presume TV brought me up.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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What I can recommend, if you like gritty crime shows, is the more serious True Crime dramatizations such as the various " Underbelly " series, such as "Golden Mile", which is about the Sydney red light area Kings Cross, and "tale of Two Cities" which is about 1970s/1980s organized crime...this was quite well done, and very entertaining although brutal and chilling.It can be watched online I think on channel 9 website, or it could not long ago.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Hey thanks. Gonna check it out.
I like science fiction but to be honest I'm not set on a special genre. At the moment I don't miss The Pacific, The Tudors, Battlestar Galactica and together with my GF Desperate Housewives.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
@DrGull1888
the recent two-part "Kokoda" series on ABC-tv also, was quite well done including good re-enactments comments from surviving Japanese veterans, not to be confused with the 'Kokoda' movie, which was questionable. Its about the savage campaign in New Guinea 1942-44, of course.This was able to be "i-view" watched on ABC site , but im not sure if it would still be up.
ABC is Australian version of BBC, btw, nothing to do with US ABC.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I believe I've seen this. There was a channel here on youtube named 20thcenturywar. It had all the Guido Knopp docus, some BBC and History Channel docus and a docu about Kokoda. Perhaps this was yours, Sadly this channel was shut down this Spring.
I would have shot Blamey, too, after his Rabbit Speech.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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I love Desperate Housewives, never miss it. I can take the American soaps, provided theyre well done. I guess the crime and cops shows are my final favorites, provided its top quality like Wire or Shield or Boomtown.
Currently I follow a teen soap which is actually connected with something I am not even interested in-American highschool Football team--but the show is so well acted and scripted, i love it. "Friday Night Lights" set in small-town Texas.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker The Shield is pretty good. just watched a few episodes but the Michael Chilkis character is tuff. He also played the Thing in the failed Fantastic Four Movie.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
@DrGull1888
I watched the Pacific and its good, but some people were disappointed compared to the standard of Band of Brothers...but the battle scenes were still brutal and high standard. It is made about 80kms west of here, or that was their production base. People I know are in the militaria collectors items and museum military vehicles business here, they actually provided many of the jeeps, trucks, and the AMTRAC Buffalo thing used.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@DrGull1888
Hanks and Spielbergs company tried to get the hire of all those uniforms and weapons and vehicles for free, actually almost demanded them, but these guys refused, in the end, they got 20 or 25k or something off them for hire, which was better than nothing but a pittance compared to their budget.
Ha, "Desperate Housewives"...I used to dream desperately of Terri Hatcher in the 1990s , she looked so hot even as a guest on Seinfeld..but now she is making herself too skinny.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Producers always try to depress the prices but demanding for free is outrageous.
Terry Hatcher was hot in this Superman series but I didn't like her in James Bond. She had terrible hair and the camera seemed to concentrate on her birth mark on her labial angle. Our favourite Desperate Housewife is Bree - Marcia Cross.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
@DrGull1888
the documentary you saw on Kokoda perhaps sounds like the correct one, if they told the full story of the infamous Run Rabbit Run remarks slur by Blamey, who was a Schweinhund..Run Rabbit Run was also an old quaint record song popular in rural Australian famers back then.
Later after Blamey, a politician named Frank Forde , Minister for the Army, went up there and actually lectured them about they were dragging their feet, should make a greater effort.Then safely returned home
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker It was also nice from Blamey to evacuate his son from Greece with the last plane.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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What other US shows I buy or download recently.
"Sons Of Anarchy" outlaw motorcycle gang. Made by same people who made the Shield, even Jay Karnes was a guest in it. They run a small town almost and deal illegal firearms. The female lead is "peggy" from "Married with children" Katey sagal. Entertaining and lurid.
"Mad Men " character drama set in ad agency in Kennedys era US-fabulous.
"Over*There"..Iraq war drama, slightly soapy but good.Good Photography and sets.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I love Katey Segal. She voiced the female lead in the science fiction satire series "Futurama". Series I've completely on DVD are Star Trek, Star Trek Next Generation, Voyager, Enterprise, Deep Space Nine, Space Center Babylon 5, Futurama. I also watch Southpark online on their homepage.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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Yes, perhaps her hair was a little off in the James Bond, I was still shocked and sorry to see her die, she definitely strikes a note with me, when she was on Seinfeld melted me down almost completely. She was a a recurring guest-role as an accident-prone 'bubble-head" in "McIvor", with hideous 80s "big hair" I admit, I wouldnt have taken her so seriously if that was all i saw of her.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@DrGull1888
I didnt even know this about Blamey & Greece, although i know that the 6th Division was blamed by Churchill in a similiar way to 8th Division blamed by British for Singapore.I had his biog here twice, sold it on ebay, but didnt bother reading it myself. Have a good vid docu of Monash and Western Front , who is a much more admirable character, although not spotless.A good vhs docu of Singapore and 8 division, with fabulous commentary by pissed-off soldiers....
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Oh, Monash. He was a victim of defamation due to his Prussian-Jewish origin. That a commander should care for his troops like Monash did and not pointlessly sacrifice them, was beyond the horizon of Monash's superiors.
The Australian war effort was always a bit deemphasized by her allies. There's also this unfair statement by George Marshall where he implyed a low will to fight after the first setbacks at Kokoda.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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In a similiar way to Greece, Bennett was scapegoated for evacuating himself from singapore similiar to Macarthur in Corregidor, never given another combat command although the most aggressive general in Malaya, who achieved what little success was achieved, probably blamed also by this hypocrite Blamey.
On that tape is a good one about Indian Army Ww2, including collaborationist Bhose Indian National Army, fascinating, theres a subject you dont hear much of from Guido Knopp.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker The same with Claude Auchinleck. He was the one who stopped Rommel at El Alamein but was replaced.
Chandra Bhose is a very interesting subject. Some day I want to make a video about him. He was married to a German, helped to build up the Free India Legion, was transported to Burma by a German sub and died in a plane crash. Today he is still treasured in India as freedom fighter.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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Yes, that was a lot of the point of this docu about Indian army and Bhose, that those troops who were British loyal, were treated like shit after the war, but not only by Britain, by India. They were denied Indian pensions, whereas the Bhose men were incredibly given them.I didnt know he was married to a German, how would that have sit with the racial laws?Died on a Japanese plane. I wonder if the British would have hanged him anyway after the war. He had a Burmese equivalent
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I was mistaken again. He was married to an Austrian who became German in 1938. They married before the "Anschluss" in 1938. I presume the Nazi's tolerated their marriage because Bose became useful for them.
The Brits granted amnesty to the leaders of Free India Army to avoid uprisings in India. Perhaps they would have locked Bose up and he eventually would have been set free after India's independence. But that's pure speculation.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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the British hanged his Burmese counterpart, no messing around. I guess the politics of psot-war pre-independence India would have been too big for the British to execute Bhose...incredible for them to respect the INA men, would be like the French respecting Vichy after the war.Didnt they know how low an opinion the Japanese had of Indians?They absolutely despised them, as they showed with the Indian prisoners from Malaya.In Burma, of course, the two Indian armies actually met.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Well, the French condemned the leaders of Vichy. Many were soon pardoned. The same in Germany of the 1950ies by the way. A real workup of Vichy's collaboration in the Shoa or actions against Communists and the Resistance came in the 1990ies under Chirac.
The Indians would certainly have replaced the one exploiter with the other if the Japanese and Germans prevailed.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
@DrGull1888
Speaking of Nazis in Asia, our SBS I have told you so much about recently profiled this Germany diplomat fellow who did much to save the Chinese in Nanking in 1937 Massacres...such a strange story, especially how he died in obscure poverty in Germany and was completely convinced that Hitler would strongly protest to the Japanese about atrocities in China.I cant recall his name, but you most probably know who I am referring to.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker The guy's name was John Rabe. He was an agent for Siemens in China.
Well, National China and Germany had very good relations until 1937. Germany sent military instructors like general Hans von Seeckt, former head of Reichswehr, helped to train the army and built up industry, delivered He 111, Panzer II, uniforms and rifles. Even the son of Chiang Kai-shek was trained to be a mountain rifle man (Gebirgsjäger) in Mittenwald. But since 1937 Hitler started to prefer Japan.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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I forgot to mention, yes, I am familiar with this program on Robert S McNamara, in fact I have it here recorded from last time it was screened here, one very similiar has been called "the 11 (or 12 or 13, some number like that) things I learned in business and War".
Yes, it highlights the grim mathematics of Le Mays fireraids on Japan, but I actually love the later parts on Cuba missiles and Kennedys/Johnstons America..began reading "miracle at Midway" this afternoon.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I'd say McNamarra lived in general a very interesting live.
Miracle at Midway is by Prange. I owe At Dawn We Slept but haven't started it yet. I read at the moment both parts of Eisenhower's White House Years. But I'm not beyond the campaign.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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enjoying this book by the Page 60 mark, is certainly quality examination, but he has made a couple of surprisi ng errors for a Naval historian, most notably referring to HMAS Australia as a "battlewagon" in the actual context of meaning it to be an actual battleship.It was just a Kent-style County cruiser.
KateLicker 1 year ago
Great choice of music.
is it from Tora Tora Tora?
You need one of those deafening oriental gong-cymbal crashes which always accompanied a Japanese periscope breaking water or other first sighting of other Japanese forces in 50s and 60s Hollywood war movies.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Thanks. Yes, it's the opening from Tora Tora Tora. It's from an album which also included Patton.
There are also some nice Japanese themes with Tong-drums like in Rising Sun or Pearl Harbor. I also recall a nice Japanese theme with xylophone, silent, slow but still menacing. It was in "In Harms Way" also composed by Jerry Goldsmith.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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So many memories of Japanese battleship and cruiser model kits I had in the 1970s..I think I can recall most of their names..Chokai, Mogami, Hiei, Ise, Haruna,Akagi, Sendai or Yubari or one of the other light cruisers, Taiho, and of course the essential Yamato/Musashi....the enormous "Pagoda"s such as at your vid 0.29.
They really were by far the most interesting WW2 navy...the equivalent of the mesmerizing fascination of the Luftwaffe's planes.
the huge seaplane hangar subs.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker I also built model kits as a young lad. But I hadn't had that much Japanese ones. Only the Akagi and Kongo and some planes and two tanks.
Yup, the Japanese Navy had unique designs. The I-400 class of subs is no exception.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
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Yes, Ive seen In Harms way a couple of times but I dont recall the score from it.
Strange movie as a kind of blend of strains of fact elements of Leyte Gulf, but somehow brought years forward so that that somehow happens soon after Pearl Harbor..the title itself "in Harms Way" was from the words of a Captain Evans who commanded the suicidal charge of the destroyer escorts Hoel, Johnston and Roberts at the action where one of the jeep carriers was sunk by Japanese surface ships.
KateLicker 1 year ago
@KateLicker Indeed, some of the actions in "In Harms Way" reminded me of second Savo Island and Surigao Strait. I didn't know where the title came from. Thanks for posting.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
at the outbreak of wwii, Japan had some of the best cruisers and destroyers in the world. They fought savagely in the SW Pacific and inflicted high casualties even against radar equipped Allied ships.
jamessavik 1 year ago
@jamessavik Amen.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
but what I am not missing is your work and effort into putting this fine video together, researchers like yourself make it possible for those like us to continue to learn. good work dr. gull keep it going.
TheAlliswell 1 year ago
@TheAlliswell Thanks a lot. But I can only give a limited insight with my vids. The best sources are still books.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
cant say much about the leadership of IJN. the crews appeared to be poorly trained and they lost 90% of their fleet as well as the war, what am I missing here ????
TheAlliswell 1 year ago
@TheAlliswell Poorly trained? Certainly not during the first part of the Pacific war. And to the lost of 90% of the fleet and the war, well, the best navy can't help when your enemies are all too legion.
Since this is a slide show about the Imperial Japanese Navy I dunno what you are missing.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
@TheAlliswell
Poorly trained???
Compared to who?
Youre missing a lot, apparently.
These were the only land-based Naval airforce with any record of finding and effectively attacking heavy warships at sea....easily the most efficient carrier-borne airmen well into 1942...the most effective fleet surface ships in night gunnery and torpedo attack.
KateLicker 1 year ago
gr gull, where do you come from?:)
sentagorian 1 year ago
@sentagorian Nuremberg, Germany.
DrGull1888 1 year ago
we should respect the imperial japanese navy they were really experienced too and wat was the biggest japanese battle ship i think its called otaku yamamoto correct me if im wrong
8000jk 1 year ago
0:28 Woah that is one high conning tower on that battleship!
dogfight001 2 years ago
The Japanese had some fantastic naval designs, definately the most advanced WW2 navy. Shame that it was poorly led. Thanks for the video.
HelmutVillam 2 years ago
It depends who was leading. Ozawa Jisaburo and Tanaka Raizo were brilliant tacticians while Nagumo Chuichi was a failure.
DrGull1888 2 years ago
IJN had very creative ships, thanks for the video, good music.
ClaudeFrollon 2 years ago 3
Nippon Banzai!
One of the best battleships of WWII I've ever seen is the Musashi!
Nice Vid
KunameSenpai 2 years ago 4
Magnificent Ships True. You have a good eye for design. Thanks for the post
3shacks1house 2 years ago
Kumano
Kirishima
Hyuga
Kaga
TheZuikaku 2 years ago
Yes, Kaga with casemates in 1935.
DrGull1888 2 years ago
We definately have the best looking navy. IJN
TheZuikaku 2 years ago
Cool video, thanks for sharing with us.
davidlopez09 2 years ago
The Japaneses battleships were really awesome. Yamato was the most awesome of them all and my favorite.
RMSTitanic87 2 years ago
Yes, Yamato was most awesome, especially because of her size. She is only topped by super-tankers and nuclear powered aircraft carriers.
I, as a incurable romantic, prefer those WWI battleships like Nagato and Fuso. Fuso for her bizarre pagoda mast and Nagato for she marks the passage between old BB design to modern BB design.
DrGull1888 2 years ago
yes Nagato and Fuso were also great. In Fact i Just got a model of Fuso and still working on it.
RMSTitanic87 2 years ago
By Hasagawa?
DrGull1888 2 years ago
no it is a 1/700 aoshima model i may have spelled it wrong. But i hope to get my hands on a 1/350 Hasagawa Nagato and the new 1/500 Yamato by Fujimi.
RMSTitanic87 2 years ago
Haven't heard of Aoshima yet. But I know Hasagawa and Fujimi. Very detailed kits and pricy. At least they are pricy in Germany.
DrGull1888 2 years ago
I've got a Nagato, Kongo, Zuikaku, Junyo, and Suzuya in 1/700
TheZuikaku 2 years ago
I bet waterline.
DrGull1888 2 years ago
Fuso should have been called Marge Simpson - LOL.
But Its so damned hard to find video footage of IJNS ships
ToonandBBfan 2 years ago
Ha,ha, yes. Then Shinano should have been called Homer. lol.
There is some video footage here on youtube, but most of it is from old newsreel and I bet you already know it.
DrGull1888 2 years ago
The "tall" battleship design is called a "Pagoda Mast" and very common in just about every other Japanese WW2 ship. I can name about twenty Japanese WW2 ship clases and close to thirty or fourty individual ships. The two super dreadnaughts Fuso and her awesome and better sister Yamashiro were the best Japanese ships ever built despite how old they were. Mogami class heavy cruisers and Nagato came in second.
Airbusa319thehornet 2 years ago
The Pagoda Mast is an interesting story. Everytime some new equipment was invented, they put a new platform on or to the mast, which resulted in the pagoda shape. I read that Japan wanted to replace Fuso-class in the mid 1940ies, which was prevented by the war.
DrGull1888 2 years ago
A lot of those ships did have beautiful lines. And even those that were not beautiful were certainly interesting to look at. Unfortunately, I understand they were quite uncomfortable to serve in, and they usually met very grim fates.
BruceK10032 2 years ago
I agree. The Japanese ships were unique in their design. They share their grim fate with every soldier or civilian killed in every war ever happened.
DrGull1888 2 years ago
The tall battleships like Fuso are soo cool looking!
John0619 2 years ago
Yeah.
DrGull1888 2 years ago
i think japanese enginering is the best in the world i am very interested in ww2 ships ov all nations thanks for the video
paddyboybrummie 3 years ago
nice video!respect!
BTW,where i can get the background music?sounds like jerry goldsmith`s OST,toratoratora.would you please tell me about it?
hellMode 3 years ago
Nice work for your first video.:)
Smogger911 3 years ago
Thank you. That's very kind.
DrGull1888 3 years ago
excellent ! u should include shokaku,zuikaku,zuiho and taiho carriers too =) i love the IJN, pls check out my video on ww2 japanese planes!
tool619 3 years ago