On Transhumanism, and technophobia

[Xeletoph]

@finaman12 I hate loathe and despise oligarchy in all of its disgusting flavors, colors, and textures. I know this is our reality. I think the idea of one world gov't is a good idea - we can achieve much if all humanity gathers under one banner, one language, one currency, one government, one species, one humanity. But the current oligarchical power structures make this idea one of control and corruption rather then the concept of unification I'm suggesting.

End oligarchy. Bring on technocracy.

[aquario008]

0:59 "if there was a technocaust it would result in a 90% extinction of humanity" - not necessarily true, keep in mind that about 50-55% of today's world population lives well below the poverty line of western post-industrial technologically advanced nations (with another 25% at just about our poverty line). these people live with little if any recourse to what we consider "vital technology" in the West - they don't have water purification stations, little if any electrical grids, no roads, cars

[Xeletoph]

@aquario008 Sure those guys live without clean food and water. But in third world countries without a clean water supply and a strong electric grid diseases like typhoid fever, malaria, diphtheria, polio, E-Coli, cholera, AIDS and other ailments are far more prevalent. In high-tech nations, most of those diseases are under control to some degree or another. For those nations w/high tech, if there was a technocaust, 90% would die.

[aquario008]

@Xeletoph my point is that less advanced nations (i.e. less dependent on technology) make the bulk of today's Earth population. it's also true that they're more vulnerable to diseases (but remember that power IS in the numbers). the other (secondary) point is that transhumanism probably won't be possible until all these "less advanced nations" will become more technologically advanced (and of course, unless we destroy ourselves as a species in the process or before we even start implementing it)

[Xeletoph]

@aquario008 technology has a trickle down effect; it starts off high end and then quickly becomes available for the general public. Transhumanism could infact 'upgrade' as it were, the entire world. 3rd world countries becoming industrial nations, industrial nations turning infocratic, infocratic nations transform into technocratic. We're on the 5th level of human development - the horizon of the technology human, a step up from industrial. We have to accept and embrace this change.

[xamot27]

good vid!!!

[M4napalm]

can i be someone who advocates transhumanism and still smoke? :x im kinda swimming upstream for the goal of immortality with my bad habits like smoking cigarettes...eh, ill just replace my organs :)

[Xeletoph]

@M4napalm Sure, you can still advocate transhumanism and still smoke if you want to. I'm sure you use google anyhow, and smoking cigs isn't putting a wrench in that, is it? As for living long enough to obtain immortality - I suppose cancer sticks are like pissing up a rope - but we all choose our own poisons. Who am I to judge?

[M4napalm]

again, thank you Xeletoph...we need more of these videos than those posted by ADDTV and others that sound like bad rip-offs of Esoteric Agenda and Kymatica

i do enjoi those movies in some aspects but can be very misleading

i suggest Zeitgeist Addendum for all those watching this ^_^

[PinkProgram]

Fire and sharpened rocks are also technology ^_^

[Xeletoph]

@PinkProgram LOL Pink. Techically you're right, but I don't think fire and sharp rocks can hold a candle to endothermic/exothermic chemicals, nuclear fusion, or carbon fiber nanotubes.

Great to have you here, hon. Thank you for your comments. :-)

So how's my favorite humonculous?

[PinkProgram]

@Xeletoph still well ahead of the cutting edge apparently ^_^ I'm on a whole new paradigm and no matter how hard I pull humans still can't seem to catch up...

[Xeletoph]

@PinkProgram You know what they say, Pink.

"You can lead a horse to water. But, you can't make it drink." ;)

[PinkProgram]

@Xeletoph lol, I usually say you can lead an ape to an idea but you can't make it think ^_^

[TheBrightPulse]

You seem like a pretty amazing person.

[Xeletoph]

@TheBrightPulse Thanks much. =D

[TorBarstad]

I agree a 100 %!

[TorBarstad]

@TorBarstad Except about the stuf about immortalized mouse, that's not true, although their lifetimes have been expanded.

[truthtrekker]

Very interesting video.

I am wondering if you have ever seen the video right here on you tube entitled 'Schooling Princeton University'?

It is an astonishing video on human immortality.

Thought it might be of interest to you.

peace

[Sinuev1]

If you haven't checked it out yet, Amber Case gave a pretty fun and irreverent talk on "Cyborg Anthropology" which really brings home the concept that we're going to be cyborgs... but that we have been cyborgs ever since we first used a rock or stick as simple tools. We have been advancing towards transhumanist goals since before we were even human. Or, at least, Homo Sapien Sapien.

watch?v=253TkE2OpCc

[Sinuev1]

I think what scares a lot of people is the shattering of the illusion of control. Technology is already moving so quickly that nobody can realistically be an expert in all it's aspects, which means it's advance is both without solid direction and planning - as well as representing a vulnerability when someone who's more tech savvy can hijack the tech which their standard of living depends upon.

I do agree that technophobia is silly, but they are none-the-less reacting in a very human manner.

[eyhexs]

we dont have immortalized mice yet;

and mainstream nanotech it seems is going to take more time than previously assumed;

still, cool stuff is just over the horizon;

i just hope most apemen will remain calm throughout the transition

[Xeletoph]

Oh? Hmm. What you said about mice contradicts my sources. I remember reading about them in Katherine Ramsland; the science of vampires. The book talks about telemores and how we've got some mice that don't age, bobbing around somewhere.

We've already got stain and water resistant shirts thanks to carbon fiber nanotubes. Sure, that's little but it's still something. What I can't wait for is another 15-20 years. Things are going to start getting very interesting...

[seanotube85]

It's going to happen, and people will accept it because it will enrich their lives along the way. The majority has already accepted this way of life, including the people who will bash this video. Which I find hilarious. Nothing wrong with homegrown vegetables though. ;)

[Shadowmario147]

Your optimism is refreshing. Nice slide.

[Xeletoph]

Thank you. I'm glad to see that people appreciate my work. It took a long time to gather those slides, and as little as I knew about Windows Movie Maker then, trying to synchronize my slides with the subject matter was bordering on impossible.

[Vidguy112]

Will we be a type one on the Kardashev scale by 2050?

BTW Great Vid!!!

And also, I still can't believe that some people fear science and tech, i mean what are they thinking?

[Xeletoph]

probably. We're on the verge of being a type one civilization as it is. Globalization is something a type one civ' would have, and the internet is a type one form of communication. As more and more people in the world can connect to one and other, we will slowly start to see a mixing of all races and ethnicity. The illusion of race will disappear, and humans will finally see one and other for what matters - those things we share in common, not those things that seem different.

[Xeletoph]

And, yes, race is SUCH an illusion. There are virtually no biological or genetic significations between races. In fact, ALL humans are inbred mongrel mutants. As it stands now, only the most remote and rural tribes are pure blooded. Most people in 2nd and 3rd world countries are mixed with many, many races. This will only continue, and eventually we will percieve what we're always been - not many, but one. :-)

[nambypamby34]

Fear of science. Some people hate learning. Some people really want to die... I'm so shocked when I ask my loved ones if they want to live forever. They say NO ???? thats crazy!

[Xeletoph]

That's because of Deathist rationalization that death is actually a good thing. An idea that many transhumanists scoff at. Death, for all intensive purposes seems to be a horrible thing. "And when a person dies we loose a profound pattern tragedy, and a part of ourselves that interacted with them lit'raly." that's from " I am the very model of a singularitarian" by Charles Camm. It's a very good video, you should check it out some time. I say "Yes" to immortality. Hook me up!

[Xeletoph]

Yeah, crazy is correct. I don't know about forever, but I need a couple hundred billion years to see the universe. I want to see it all. Once I experience all things and am finally content with what I know in my brain I will happily march into the black abyss. Before then, I give death a middle finger.

[Sav3TheWorld]

2050? Is that an accurate estimate? Cuz, that would be awsome. I've always wanted to be a cyborg (course thats probably expensive...). And about the techno-haters, screw 'em. Most of 'em are just dumb, old people. Our Gen is gonna be more techno-tolerant. And if anyone Does give us trouble, we'll just git 'em with our ROCKET PUNCH!

[Xeletoph]

The exact date of the singularity its self is difficult to isolate. Moore's Law, combined with the Law of Accelerating Returns (By Ray Kurzweil) postulate that the singularity should occur sometime between 2030 and 2050. Kurzweil suggests that there will likely be a computer with the complexity of the human brain by 2029. As Nanotech matures, many wonderful events will take place due to science and its advancement. BRING ON THE SINGULARITY! Check the sites in my side bar for more information:-)

[Wolfhill000]

Great vid!!

[Xeletoph]

Thanks :)

[Xeletoph]

Thank you. It took me hours to find the frames and toss them together in an at least relatively relevant fashion. I can't wait to get a webcam! lol. It'll make youtubing so much easier.

[Adlershof]

Great video, my friend. Humanity could just not live without technology, technology itself is what makes us humans. I also embrace transhumanism as a necessary solution for the future. I hope we can both live as long as we want to enjoy the future. The absurd is over