@kbizze2fresh baahaha lets see you take that a5 out on the field with markers like this one. a5's constantly have excess gunk left inside the internals(paint, rough metal) you're entire cyclone feed would need to be upgraded to perform at a top level like a bob long, the a5 cant make 10 pods of paint let alone 14-17, and you'd have to buy a new board for it in order to participate in tournaments, plus you'd have to buy a techt blade trigger so you could walk it. you'd be better off buying a mini
@K1llachaM Not always. Plenty of very good players out there that never went pro due to their jobs, life,...other obligations.
Good players in PB, dime a dozen. Those willing to give up everything to play Pro, not too many. Thats why there's so many trashy players. Because the ones with real jobs, family, career would not commit.
The Mini is probably the best gun you can get in the $300 range. I said probably because the G3 is right there too. The only people that hate on Mini's are the people with $700+ guns that believe performance should ALWAYS come at a high price. This is the reason so many people hated on Ions. Cheap guns that do just about everything an expensive gun can do, save for a few features. I understand the hate, but play with a Mini afew weekends and dont try to compare it to a Luxe-you will be pleased
@doomie77 Agreed, I can't find a reason to replace my mini other than its flaccid trigger, and even that can be corrected with a $30 upgrade. My mini is mostly stock (except for the barrel) and shoots consistently and accurately with no chops and VERY few breaks even above 20 bps. It's reliable and damn easy to maintain. Combine the performance and reliability with the extremely low price and it's hard not to appreciate this gun. If there was ever a perfect all-around gun, it's the Mini.
@zkobosko Only issue I have w/the Mini is no on/off ASA. Not a big deal since I'm not a 90 lb weakling that can't unscrew my tank. With my LP tank it comes off pretty easy
Why a Clone dude? A Clone is a spoolie and these are closed bolt stack tube poppets, to be honest I'd shoot my Marq 7 over a Clone, and with the Victory that I shoot now theres no competition, but I like poppets, they perform almost the same, although the Victories are more consistent and they have better efficiency they perform about the same, other than packaging you get more of what you pay for with a Victory in gun performance, with Bob Long you get gun performance equal to the whole price.
Basically what I'm saying is with Bob Long you get $1175 gun performance as opposed to $1000 gun performance and a really nice box and manual, almost no difference but your paying the same and getting a little better on field performance out of the Victory, but if you can't stand poppets then definately go with the Clone, I prefer a poppet over a spoolie any day but hey thats me, theres been very few spool valve markers that I've ever really wanted very bad.
Aside from air efficiency and being a little heavier, spools have a little less kick and tend to be a little more consistent. Personal preference really, I'd run a spool over poppet.
The DM9 has a smoother shot, the victory has better efficiency. The DM requires more maintenance, and the victory doesn't. The DM is a bit heavier and the victory is lighter. The victory will have a better trigger for semi and the DM trigger is better for PSP and ramping. Hope that helps, check out TechPB for mroe info or help!
I've just testend one today and I love it ! I used to play with Dye DM series, but Victory amazing ! Accuracy much better then DM, simplicity and body - it rocks !
And even if they did copy the tool less bolt design from Luxe, who cares? It's a good innovation and it just makes the gun that much nicer. People always say "Oh well they copied so and so..."
Like it really doesn't matter. If its a good design then other companies should use it, it helps the sport grow. That's why Tom Kaye didn't patent HPA, he knew it would only hurt the sport.
uh no the victory has a different type of tooless bolt removal it doesnt have magnetics eyes that you can loose it has the 4c eye system its auto cocker threaded so it has more barrels smaller reg better board and gets wayy more shots off
Yeah but anyone could argue about prices. The vice is only 750 new and the 4c eyes are compatible with it as well. Why waste your money for no macroline? :P
k so if the victory has been in production for 3 years, why has it just starting being sold in Canada/united states when the luxe has been out for around a year?
becuz and movement of the gun translates to barrel movement. and if u move ur gn a centimeter to the left, down field ur ball will be going about a foot or more to the left
No on gives a shit about smart parts, smart parts sucks dick bob long rapes them so it doesnt matter who coppied who, bob long is a better product period.
Anthony stop acting like an annoying fanboy. I personally don't like what Smartparts does too the industry, but the Luxe is a nice gun. If you ever shot or held one you would know. I do disagree on the price of course but hey, what are you gonna do. I do like the fact that Bob Long took the idea from Smartparts's LUXE for the tooless backout bolt and no macroline but also added more too the design. So in other words it is a suped up Luxe that a inline poppet. =]
lol atleast hes honest "dealers gonna make a good mark up on it" doubt its up there in the mark up of dye products as far as mark up... doubt this will make me switch from my ego but looks solid
@wesman427 exact same thing I thought when I watched this
OsamaIsDead123456789 2 months ago
Douchebags killed the sport
wesman427 2 months ago
2 pounds 2 pounds
lazysn1per 5 months ago
at the beginning. they fuckin wannabe niggers
Bobby15ish1 7 months ago
Are U kidding you actually thought co2 would work what the f?@# are u smoking no offence but really?
BeastAndTheHarlot100 8 months ago
@newzelandroxs you can't and if you have to use co2 you probably won't be affording this anytime soon
tmoney818 11 months ago 3
can u run co2 through this marker ?
plaease get back 2 me asap
thanks
newzelandroxs 11 months ago
@newzelandroxs no
junits15 5 months ago
This gun is so expensive and the a5 is better for $200
kbizze2fresh 1 year ago
@kbizze2fresh Wow. Scrub
SaTiionMoDz8 1 year ago
@kbizze2fresh The A5... better... BAHAHAHAHA
JonHT96 1 year ago 4
@kbizze2fresh baahaha lets see you take that a5 out on the field with markers like this one. a5's constantly have excess gunk left inside the internals(paint, rough metal) you're entire cyclone feed would need to be upgraded to perform at a top level like a bob long, the a5 cant make 10 pods of paint let alone 14-17, and you'd have to buy a new board for it in order to participate in tournaments, plus you'd have to buy a techt blade trigger so you could walk it. you'd be better off buying a mini
crucifytheinnocent1 8 months ago
0:25 haha what a douche "numero uno, numero two"
MyTrixxE 1 year ago
numero two.. fail.
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jorge554 1 year ago
there's so many white trash people in pro paintball its ridiculous
CBH621 1 year ago
@CBH621 yeah but they got there because there good at paintball, thats some respect right there....
K1llachaM 1 year ago
@K1llachaM Not always. Plenty of very good players out there that never went pro due to their jobs, life,...other obligations.
Good players in PB, dime a dozen. Those willing to give up everything to play Pro, not too many. Thats why there's so many trashy players. Because the ones with real jobs, family, career would not commit.
CBH621 1 year ago
@CBH621 wow ur a dueche
RandomFlipperz 1 year ago
14-17 pods? Holy cow, how is the efficiency compared to the Vice? (How many pods does the Vice shoot?)
tylerrichey 1 year ago
@tylerrichey vice can shoot a shit load
TheVelocityPaintball 1 year ago
@TheVelocityPaintball Aha but how much...
tylerrichey 1 year ago
@tylerrichey 14
TheVelocityPaintball 1 year ago
How come shitty wiggers are so common in paintball?
krimsanavenger 1 year ago 10
The Mini is probably the best gun you can get in the $300 range. I said probably because the G3 is right there too. The only people that hate on Mini's are the people with $700+ guns that believe performance should ALWAYS come at a high price. This is the reason so many people hated on Ions. Cheap guns that do just about everything an expensive gun can do, save for a few features. I understand the hate, but play with a Mini afew weekends and dont try to compare it to a Luxe-you will be pleased
doomie77 1 year ago 2
@doomie77 Agreed, I can't find a reason to replace my mini other than its flaccid trigger, and even that can be corrected with a $30 upgrade. My mini is mostly stock (except for the barrel) and shoots consistently and accurately with no chops and VERY few breaks even above 20 bps. It's reliable and damn easy to maintain. Combine the performance and reliability with the extremely low price and it's hard not to appreciate this gun. If there was ever a perfect all-around gun, it's the Mini.
zkobosko 1 year ago
@zkobosko Only issue I have w/the Mini is no on/off ASA. Not a big deal since I'm not a 90 lb weakling that can't unscrew my tank. With my LP tank it comes off pretty easy
doomie77 1 year ago
Anybody know how this compares to the generation 1 Marqs, 6,7,rapper,closer etc...?
krimsanavenger 1 year ago
Ive got one of the 8 oakland blast team marq 6's :)
pvandpb 1 year ago
1:14 guy says
"mini probably shoots better"
katsika7 1 year ago
@katsika7 reallly??? I want to buy a mini but everybody tells me that I should spend my money in anything else...
ZaiferOne 1 year ago
wow blud they made Oakland look hela weak
rodrigo415 1 year ago
Hey Jason Bornstein. Take a look in the mirror and stop acting like a nigger.
mckockiner 1 year ago
@mckockiner AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA yup!
HotChowder123 1 year ago
That could probably be 50 sec shorter...
Have a look at the MacDev clone before you consider one of these. In the end it will probably just come down to what feels more comfortable.
DanglyParts253 1 year ago
Why a Clone dude? A Clone is a spoolie and these are closed bolt stack tube poppets, to be honest I'd shoot my Marq 7 over a Clone, and with the Victory that I shoot now theres no competition, but I like poppets, they perform almost the same, although the Victories are more consistent and they have better efficiency they perform about the same, other than packaging you get more of what you pay for with a Victory in gun performance, with Bob Long you get gun performance equal to the whole price.
wiilikepie 1 year ago
Basically what I'm saying is with Bob Long you get $1175 gun performance as opposed to $1000 gun performance and a really nice box and manual, almost no difference but your paying the same and getting a little better on field performance out of the Victory, but if you can't stand poppets then definately go with the Clone, I prefer a poppet over a spoolie any day but hey thats me, theres been very few spool valve markers that I've ever really wanted very bad.
wiilikepie 1 year ago
Aside from air efficiency and being a little heavier, spools have a little less kick and tend to be a little more consistent. Personal preference really, I'd run a spool over poppet.
DanglyParts253 1 year ago
@wiilikepie he is right, I have an nt and if I had to sell it this would be the first gun I'd get
DrSqueakers 1 year ago
this or dm9
akc9897 2 years ago
The DM9 has a smoother shot, the victory has better efficiency. The DM requires more maintenance, and the victory doesn't. The DM is a bit heavier and the victory is lighter. The victory will have a better trigger for semi and the DM trigger is better for PSP and ramping. Hope that helps, check out TechPB for mroe info or help!
littlekidwithdahat 2 years ago
The beginning is lamer than FDR's legs
pvandpb 2 years ago
hahahahaha
brawliver 1 year ago
cool gun, gay intro :)
intruder2600 2 years ago
Lol oakland is still around? they are chodes.
weenersNbeans 2 years ago
the the two guys at begining gay
dbpaintball45 2 years ago
he was either tired or pissed lol
endgiver 2 years ago
You'll only have a problem if you custom annodize it.
Shoya456 2 years ago
Any Problem with these gun so far ? Leaks ? TroubleShooting ? let me know :)
TheJamieTurpin 2 years ago
I've just testend one today and I love it ! I used to play with Dye DM series, but Victory amazing ! Accuracy much better then DM, simplicity and body - it rocks !
intruder2600 2 years ago
whoa!! i just jizzed my pants!
XD super sexy, i gotta get 1
dyekiddye 2 years ago
ninja tank vs cp tank?
ctsfinestjon 2 years ago
i prefer the CPs but ninja is an upcoming popular
pvbmisfit12193 2 years ago
yea but wut makes cp better?
ctsfinestjon 2 years ago
nothing in particular, however, the ninja tanks regs are completely rebuildable out of the box. so just check em both out
pvbmisfit12193 2 years ago
i heard the ninja tanks have the best recharge rate as well.But everybody seems to b buyin cp instead.I dont know,thank u for ur reply
ctsfinestjon 2 years ago
these guys look gay
Sdawg145 2 years ago 3
Somebody tell the two in the very start of this video that they are white.
MvGogh 2 years ago 133
@MvGogh they tried to.. and were promply told the "shut up foo, for we cap yo cracka ass"
WesDesto 1 year ago
@MvGogh
+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
funnyyetdumb1 1 year ago
@MvGogh Seemed like average guys to me
rybobuno 1 year ago
Bob looks like hes about to sneeze through that whole thing lol
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pichichi224 2 years ago
Does Bob Long Victory work exactly like Invert Mini ? I mean poppet etc ?
intruder2600 2 years ago
yes :) which makes it a bit more reliable than spoolies :D
sillychink3293 2 years ago
Bob did not copy the luxe,he made it better, they are totally different guns. This is a poppet, the luxe is a spoolie.
jiffyboy101 2 years ago
Wow, the Luxe is so good, bob is copying it now!
ColdHam1 2 years ago
The victory was already being built before the luxe or dlx was even thought of...
PBronaldo 2 years ago
ummm....not really. it is a Marq engine different reg and the gas chamber inside the gun are different. how is it a Luxe?
AXPshaggy 2 years ago
If you would want to play that game then I guess luxe copied the mini
M40kc 2 years ago 35
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bob long totally copied the luxe bolt design
rejectyourreality10 2 years ago
Your so right, because when you put the bolts side by side they look the same....
The designs are totally different, if you mean a tooless bolt design then ya he did.
M40kc 2 years ago
ya and the quick release bolt
rejectyourreality10 2 years ago
And even if they did copy the tool less bolt design from Luxe, who cares? It's a good innovation and it just makes the gun that much nicer. People always say "Oh well they copied so and so..."
Like it really doesn't matter. If its a good design then other companies should use it, it helps the sport grow. That's why Tom Kaye didn't patent HPA, he knew it would only hurt the sport.
fattommy16 2 years ago
@M40kc well then mini copided tippmann because they were the first
bloodgard 1 year ago
@bloodgard ok buddy
M40kc 1 year ago
dude tippmann sucks
NBKxXN1GHTMARE 1 year ago 4
Lol a bob long luxe they like exactly the same
mrwaffle06 2 years ago
uh no the victory has a different type of tooless bolt removal it doesnt have magnetics eyes that you can loose it has the 4c eye system its auto cocker threaded so it has more barrels smaller reg better board and gets wayy more shots off
bigranger16 2 years ago
Actually it doesn't have the 4c eye system
cjman7 2 years ago
is it upgradable to the 4c eye system?
bigranger16 2 years ago
yes
uberscarbs 2 years ago
ty sir
bigranger16 2 years ago
Yep. It's mostly for those using semi or full auto though. Shame it doesn't come stock on a 1000+ gun.
cjman7 2 years ago
its only like 40 bucks to upgrade and since its cheaper than a geo you can afford it too
bigranger16 2 years ago
Yeah but anyone could argue about prices. The vice is only 750 new and the 4c eyes are compatible with it as well. Why waste your money for no macroline? :P
cjman7 2 years ago
but its gets moar pawdz to ayer tenk
bigranger16 2 years ago
yup
DFGpb23 2 years ago
how much will this gun be going for?
ryanmofoinpatten 2 years ago
he said 1175.......
hardcoreXdeathblow 2 years ago
i know those guys would beat my ass.... but they would be sooo much cooler if they didnt sound like little rappers.
lol o.o
crysis116 2 years ago 5
Bob long Marq is Fresh!!!!
I got to get on.
flag6575 2 years ago
and besides luxes are fucking trash. i would shoot a bob long over a talking shocker any day. rather just buy a mini if i want a luxe
GRRGpickle 2 years ago 2
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luxe copy
PaintballerKiiD 2 years ago
its not a fucking luxe copy!!!!! just because the bolt comes out back tooles and has no macro line, there not copyed! they shoot WAY diffrently
monkeysepouro 2 years ago
its similar in the bolt but different in other ways
satanthing 2 years ago
im pretty sure the bolt mechanism is completely different, seeing as how this is a poppet valve marker, and the luxe is a spool.
Dooooood6 2 years ago
Yea because we all know The Luxe is the first ever gun to have no macro lines *sarcasm*
GUYWITDAMINI 2 years ago
yea but the bolt is like the same to
PaintballerKiiD 2 years ago
dude..
*points towards door*
duhstinak 2 years ago
The Victory has been in production for 3 years, while the Luxe has only been in production for a few months/Years
Halomaster2437 2 years ago
k so if the victory has been in production for 3 years, why has it just starting being sold in Canada/united states when the luxe has been out for around a year?
applemitch12 2 years ago
I agree, I herd aboout the testing about a year beofre its release!
ColdHam1 2 years ago
I hit the wrong button AppleMitch12, and accidentally marked your post as spam.
It's just being sold because it's been in testing, and development for 3 years. I'm sorry I typed the wrong word.
Halomaster2437 2 years ago
i'm gonna get me one O_O
sillychink3293 2 years ago
wow ur the dumb ass i let my brother do the review. he begged me to do it. fag
teammassinfection 2 years ago
dumb ass says this, jk ya but its better in the hands and it gets more shots
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xkempx 2 years ago
The luxe is a hype gun. they dont have the preformance the victory does, and it costs $400 less.
usaidiot22 2 years ago
They play for Oakland BLAST, Bob Long's factory team......
choiboydaman517 2 years ago
Shit I think SMARTPARTS might sue :/
the way you take out the bolt is the same as
the luxe way of taking it out.
Ltwolf27 2 years ago
its 1175
mustangplaya101 2 years ago
i think 1250 - 1500 im not sure
bigBtheBANGIE 2 years ago
there fooling around you dolt
sk8erandp8er 2 years ago
lol that is what i was thinking
WoWbob396 2 years ago
but does it talk to you?
lol this gun looks sick
paintballer7449 2 years ago
whattttttttttt 14-17 pods thats rediculous.
Russownsyou1 2 years ago
sooo much like the luxe...HELLA WET!!!!!
SiD3sH0w510 2 years ago
not like the luxe at all! the victory is a poppet, luxe is a spool, completely different principle
3migo 2 years ago
i think he means that there is no macroline.
HeyImChinese 2 years ago
sweet
frankyddd 2 years ago
numero uno and numero two? Dumb fucking whiggers.
nathan2904366 2 years ago
the bolt comes out like the bolt on the luxe
mariolikesslong 2 years ago
hey, does this gun kick?
cyclone009000 2 years ago
no guns kick
3migo 2 years ago
ya, why worry about paintball gun kick
joshuas12324 2 years ago
becuz and movement of the gun translates to barrel movement. and if u move ur gn a centimeter to the left, down field ur ball will be going about a foot or more to the left
halokidd09 2 years ago
DC Arsenal seemed to stop Blast well enough :P Cause they had The Pax.
PyrateCaptain 2 years ago
LOVE IT
USDuNkIN76 2 years ago
looks amazing
cant wait to get my hands on one
atrocityPaintball 2 years ago
looks likes a fucking luxe rip off god bob long you were going good for a long time now this
erikdude666 2 years ago
luxe coppied alot of dies like the hoseless idea they copped that and a quickdissasembe bolt... and alot other its a smart parts thing
HIYA67 2 years ago
speaking teh engrish?
BadnessPB 2 years ago
No on gives a shit about smart parts, smart parts sucks dick bob long rapes them so it doesnt matter who coppied who, bob long is a better product period.
apSafety 2 years ago
i never said smartparts is good. read carefully
HIYA67 2 years ago
im pretty sure a lot of people "give a shit about smart parts". although i hate their company, they have made some pretty solid guns.
marq series>all, though
milbil 2 years ago
Anthony stop acting like an annoying fanboy. I personally don't like what Smartparts does too the industry, but the Luxe is a nice gun. If you ever shot or held one you would know. I do disagree on the price of course but hey, what are you gonna do. I do like the fact that Bob Long took the idea from Smartparts's LUXE for the tooless backout bolt and no macroline but also added more too the design. So in other words it is a suped up Luxe that a inline poppet. =]
DARQMX 2 years ago
He he :)
apSafety 2 years ago
luxe=crazy fucking price
milbil 2 years ago
ugh... gangsters
endgiver 2 years ago
lol. their not gangster at all in person..
craziazn1469 2 years ago
i like the hoseless design and how small the reg is but everything else is really ugly
hiphophippo8 2 years ago
i like the hoseless design and how small the reg is but everything else is really ugly
-true
abunjahal 2 years ago
No.
AirplaneEatsSky23 2 years ago
i think its ultra sexy
3migo 2 years ago
the only thing i like about this gun is no macroline and tooless bolt removal
lonewolf1405 2 years ago
i love my bob
minidianke 2 years ago
lol atleast hes honest "dealers gonna make a good mark up on it" doubt its up there in the mark up of dye products as far as mark up... doubt this will make me switch from my ego but looks solid
fdpain 2 years ago
i know how much it is, its pretty good.
cleanguns66 2 years ago
i heard impact spanked blast.... i was no fluke
RageCage1792 2 years ago
so this is a poppet?
BillySurprenant 2 years ago
yup its an inline poppet, instead of the bolt being above the rammer, its all together in one.
lonewolf1405 2 years ago
luxe ripoff motherfuckers!!!!!!!!!
doktoroverdose 2 years ago
not really luxe is spool marq is a poppet and the marq is $325 than the luxe
pooppan74 2 years ago
i wish i had the money for it i guess ill stick with my rapper
armyqpzm 2 years ago
dude that gun looks like a luxe fucked a marq, i personally had a marq and i hated it, lets see if bob long can redeem himself
vsb4ever 2 years ago
Siickkkkkkkk gun!!
BrucesReptiles 2 years ago
nvm i think he said 1175
ericdynamic 2 years ago
how much is going to be?
ericdynamic 2 years ago
This is the new victory marq.....completely redesigned -- LOL
JTp8ntball 2 years ago
looks great, shame about sound quality... good vid though
PaintballKitty 2 years ago
Looks good. I want one
kingof4string 2 years ago
jason is a prime example of why the rest of the world hates america.
gregory1122 2 years ago 2