As for Tibetian theory of the current civilization, a separate branch left Tibet and settled in India, Persia, Armenia and from there moved to Europe. They were called Arians. Nothing to do with nazis. Also, read the book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers" written by a Jew. Maybe you will start blaming Jews for the Holocaust? Maybe, since you distort everything anyway? Suleiman, people know the truth, at times it is inconvenient to acknowledge, but they KNOW. You know it as well. Many decent Turks know.
As for the truth Angela, ever since the world's archives have been openned (except for two Armenian ones), much new information has come to light. The vast majority PROVES the lies of the Armenians for 100 years to the christian world! Dashnaks have the audacity to use Photoshop to alter historical pictures (they even used computers to turn a painting made in 1870 into a realistic looking photo depicting the "skulls of dead Armos from WWI")! They produce pics of Russian bodies from the 1930's!
As for Dashnaks...You are giving such a big credit to a handful of Armenians who barely had few weapons to protect the lives of their families going up to the mountains while you were killing everyone and stealing their properties including their homeland one more time. You used Kurds to kill us, now they apologize to us. You use the problems of Israel to make them go against their true beliefs and support you, out of their own need at this point. Tartars were just like you, barbaric nomads.
I feel so sorry for your ignorance from decades of Armenian lies! Dashnaks formed in 1890 & received money from the Armos in the US and Europe to get numerous weapons. They began their butchery w/ the help of the Czar as early as 1890 & continued until 2000 (via ASALA, etc.)! Dashnaks initially attacked the Kurds which caused retaliation. Then you came after the Turks and others, slaughtering men, women, children (my grandparents and others were survivors). You slaughtered Jews in WWI & WWII!
As for the Jews, I've already mentioned the Nazi 812th Battalion made up of >20K Armenian volunteers. They were lead by a psychotic killer named Dro. They operated in the Crimea and the Caucuses, hunting down Jews & slaughtering them(those that lived they sent to the Nazi death camps). In Berlin, from 1933-1944, there were many Armenian magazines and newspapers praising Hitler & his actions against the Jews(they wrote many vile antisemetic articles during those times). Jews still remember this!
Angela, I can go on and provide you with countless amounts of researched references from UNBIASED & neutral historical scholars (especially over the last decade after so many archives were made public) debunking your Dashnak's "evidence" & proving our position. However, I'm afraid that you may have become so brainwashed after all of these years that it will simply fall upon your "deaf ears of denial"! Therefore, I shall leave you with this one simple question...How many sides does a coin have?
The Dashnaks & Hunchaks joined to become just the Dashnaks, a blood-thirsty terrorist movement that still controls modern Armenia's government. Until a decade ago, the US State Dept labeled Armenia as a terrorist state and issued world-wide travel advisories! Armenia's major export is terrorism(ASALA, etc.)! There is no religious freedom there even now! They have one of the most corrupt governments in the world! Their people are always trying to escape! Their church has NEVER condemed terrorism!
Somehow, you are are well informed on some things and malinformed on others. I feel very sorry for azeris that were sent to die for MY land. At least my people, including my father, died for our land. Secondly, I guess you are forgetting the horrifying genocide of Sumgait committed by your tribesmen in 1989. Have you seen the cut heads of the Armenian children placed on a piano like others would place Bach or Mozart?. Civilized azeris did that. I would like to see you forgiving that.
Again, YOUR LAND?! Your people attacked Azerbaijan twice and Georgia once for land grabs post-WWI(each time you got your butts kicked and expelled)! Your people slaughtered at least a thousand Azeris in 1992 (all caught on international news videos)! Your people will do ANYTHING to get something for nothing, then blame the victims of those you massacred by fabricating, falsifying & forging "documents" that you then present as "evidence" to gulible christian nations to get them to give you aid!
First of all, you are forgetting that Kars, Erzincan, Erzrum and Van are historical Armenian towns, the last one even has been our capital at some point in the history. Your tribes came and conquer my land where Armenians lived for thousands of years, just like you did with many other people's lands. And if the true natives stand up to protect their families, children, elderly....you call it a massacre? You have such a distorted image of history and the truth.
Sorry Angela,but for a woman of 47,you are woefully misinformed! This is understandable since you've probably been brainwashed by hearing the same lies repeatedly since your childhood. Ask yourself these questions, why are the archives in Yerevan and Boston still closed to the public? Why are Armenian Dashnaks terrified of publically debating us? Why have they never sued Turkey in any civil court? Why have they pressured congress from allowing Turkish survivors of Armenian genociders to testify?
Since when has this area been soley Armenian? Tell me Angela, how many Empires have conquered & settled this area? How about we give America back to the Indians and the Mexicans because they cried that it was their historical lands? Come on ANGELA, GROW UP, GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON! The traitorous Dashnaks sided with the Czar to form a 5th column to start the slaughter of Turks and other groups, then when the Russians retreated, the cowardly Dashnaks left too before the Turks counterattacked!
SuliemanTheGreat, are you joking or you really believe that dumping your people's crimes on others may fool people all the time. It is s great turkish diplomacy to start with something positive, trying to make people believe that you are impartial, and then drop one of your biggest lies. Your nation has been a nation of murderers and stays as such as long as denies the Genocides and continues carrying out crimes under other names. Wake up, the world is not the same. People get wiser.
No, I am NOT joking! My grandparents & some of their relatives were the sole survivors (& documented well the carnage that they witnessed) of the massacres (GENOCIDE) committed by the Armenians in towns like Kars, Van (they killed >20K Turks w/in 2 days), Erzincan, Erzurum, etc. Why haven't Turkish survivors been allowed to testify before congress? Why do Armenians refuse to debate us in an open public forum w/full media coverage? Why have they never sued Turkey (they've had 93 years)? COWARDS!
What about the many lies(100 years worth)Dashnaks have told the christian world? What about the Genocide Armenians committed in 1992 in Kohajly, Azerbaijan against the Azeris? What about Armenians stating that they're true Arryians & Hitler proclaiming them so in 1939? What about the Nazi 812th Battalion (comprised of >20K Armenian volunteers) that operated in the Crimea and the Caucus's & hunted down Jews, slaughtering them on sight & then sending the rest to the death camps? There's much more!
A great project! However, you must be just and fair if you are truly to represent the true essence of mass murders! As a Turkish-American, I take offense that there is no mention of the 518,000 Turks massacred by the Russian-backed Dashnak Armenians during World War I (Armenians were responsible for the total deaths of 2.5 million Tartars, Greeks, Georgians, Turks, Persians, Kurds, Arabs, Azeris, Jews)! Armenians refuse to let the truth be told or to debate us! WHO MOURNS FOR ALL THOSE KILLED?
what the fuck?, this a holocaust memorial docu
Flowarneym 3 years ago
As for Tibetian theory of the current civilization, a separate branch left Tibet and settled in India, Persia, Armenia and from there moved to Europe. They were called Arians. Nothing to do with nazis. Also, read the book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers" written by a Jew. Maybe you will start blaming Jews for the Holocaust? Maybe, since you distort everything anyway? Suleiman, people know the truth, at times it is inconvenient to acknowledge, but they KNOW. You know it as well. Many decent Turks know.
AngelaHye 3 years ago
As for the truth Angela, ever since the world's archives have been openned (except for two Armenian ones), much new information has come to light. The vast majority PROVES the lies of the Armenians for 100 years to the christian world! Dashnaks have the audacity to use Photoshop to alter historical pictures (they even used computers to turn a painting made in 1870 into a realistic looking photo depicting the "skulls of dead Armos from WWI")! They produce pics of Russian bodies from the 1930's!
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
As for Dashnaks...You are giving such a big credit to a handful of Armenians who barely had few weapons to protect the lives of their families going up to the mountains while you were killing everyone and stealing their properties including their homeland one more time. You used Kurds to kill us, now they apologize to us. You use the problems of Israel to make them go against their true beliefs and support you, out of their own need at this point. Tartars were just like you, barbaric nomads.
AngelaHye 3 years ago
I feel so sorry for your ignorance from decades of Armenian lies! Dashnaks formed in 1890 & received money from the Armos in the US and Europe to get numerous weapons. They began their butchery w/ the help of the Czar as early as 1890 & continued until 2000 (via ASALA, etc.)! Dashnaks initially attacked the Kurds which caused retaliation. Then you came after the Turks and others, slaughtering men, women, children (my grandparents and others were survivors). You slaughtered Jews in WWI & WWII!
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
As for the Jews, I've already mentioned the Nazi 812th Battalion made up of >20K Armenian volunteers. They were lead by a psychotic killer named Dro. They operated in the Crimea and the Caucuses, hunting down Jews & slaughtering them(those that lived they sent to the Nazi death camps). In Berlin, from 1933-1944, there were many Armenian magazines and newspapers praising Hitler & his actions against the Jews(they wrote many vile antisemetic articles during those times). Jews still remember this!
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
Angela, I can go on and provide you with countless amounts of researched references from UNBIASED & neutral historical scholars (especially over the last decade after so many archives were made public) debunking your Dashnak's "evidence" & proving our position. However, I'm afraid that you may have become so brainwashed after all of these years that it will simply fall upon your "deaf ears of denial"! Therefore, I shall leave you with this one simple question...How many sides does a coin have?
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
The Dashnaks & Hunchaks joined to become just the Dashnaks, a blood-thirsty terrorist movement that still controls modern Armenia's government. Until a decade ago, the US State Dept labeled Armenia as a terrorist state and issued world-wide travel advisories! Armenia's major export is terrorism(ASALA, etc.)! There is no religious freedom there even now! They have one of the most corrupt governments in the world! Their people are always trying to escape! Their church has NEVER condemed terrorism!
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
Somehow, you are are well informed on some things and malinformed on others. I feel very sorry for azeris that were sent to die for MY land. At least my people, including my father, died for our land. Secondly, I guess you are forgetting the horrifying genocide of Sumgait committed by your tribesmen in 1989. Have you seen the cut heads of the Armenian children placed on a piano like others would place Bach or Mozart?. Civilized azeris did that. I would like to see you forgiving that.
AngelaHye 3 years ago
Again, YOUR LAND?! Your people attacked Azerbaijan twice and Georgia once for land grabs post-WWI(each time you got your butts kicked and expelled)! Your people slaughtered at least a thousand Azeris in 1992 (all caught on international news videos)! Your people will do ANYTHING to get something for nothing, then blame the victims of those you massacred by fabricating, falsifying & forging "documents" that you then present as "evidence" to gulible christian nations to get them to give you aid!
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
You are such a confused person!
First of all, you are forgetting that Kars, Erzincan, Erzrum and Van are historical Armenian towns, the last one even has been our capital at some point in the history. Your tribes came and conquer my land where Armenians lived for thousands of years, just like you did with many other people's lands. And if the true natives stand up to protect their families, children, elderly....you call it a massacre? You have such a distorted image of history and the truth.
AngelaHye 3 years ago
Sorry Angela,but for a woman of 47,you are woefully misinformed! This is understandable since you've probably been brainwashed by hearing the same lies repeatedly since your childhood. Ask yourself these questions, why are the archives in Yerevan and Boston still closed to the public? Why are Armenian Dashnaks terrified of publically debating us? Why have they never sued Turkey in any civil court? Why have they pressured congress from allowing Turkish survivors of Armenian genociders to testify?
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
Since when has this area been soley Armenian? Tell me Angela, how many Empires have conquered & settled this area? How about we give America back to the Indians and the Mexicans because they cried that it was their historical lands? Come on ANGELA, GROW UP, GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON! The traitorous Dashnaks sided with the Czar to form a 5th column to start the slaughter of Turks and other groups, then when the Russians retreated, the cowardly Dashnaks left too before the Turks counterattacked!
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
SuliemanTheGreat, are you joking or you really believe that dumping your people's crimes on others may fool people all the time. It is s great turkish diplomacy to start with something positive, trying to make people believe that you are impartial, and then drop one of your biggest lies. Your nation has been a nation of murderers and stays as such as long as denies the Genocides and continues carrying out crimes under other names. Wake up, the world is not the same. People get wiser.
AngelaHye 3 years ago
No, I am NOT joking! My grandparents & some of their relatives were the sole survivors (& documented well the carnage that they witnessed) of the massacres (GENOCIDE) committed by the Armenians in towns like Kars, Van (they killed >20K Turks w/in 2 days), Erzincan, Erzurum, etc. Why haven't Turkish survivors been allowed to testify before congress? Why do Armenians refuse to debate us in an open public forum w/full media coverage? Why have they never sued Turkey (they've had 93 years)? COWARDS!
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
What about the many lies(100 years worth)Dashnaks have told the christian world? What about the Genocide Armenians committed in 1992 in Kohajly, Azerbaijan against the Azeris? What about Armenians stating that they're true Arryians & Hitler proclaiming them so in 1939? What about the Nazi 812th Battalion (comprised of >20K Armenian volunteers) that operated in the Crimea and the Caucus's & hunted down Jews, slaughtering them on sight & then sending the rest to the death camps? There's much more!
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
A great project! However, you must be just and fair if you are truly to represent the true essence of mass murders! As a Turkish-American, I take offense that there is no mention of the 518,000 Turks massacred by the Russian-backed Dashnak Armenians during World War I (Armenians were responsible for the total deaths of 2.5 million Tartars, Greeks, Georgians, Turks, Persians, Kurds, Arabs, Azeris, Jews)! Armenians refuse to let the truth be told or to debate us! WHO MOURNS FOR ALL THOSE KILLED?
SuliemanTheGreat 3 years ago
Is this Memorial Grove opening soon?
How do we get information?
Thank you
lisagarden 3 years ago
What is the status on the opening of this memorial?
lisagarden 3 years ago