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  • Bessler couldn't do so well. The problem is we do not have an efficient energy storage method for these devices. If we had an efficient energy storage method, the solar panels and wind turbines could charge the batteries while we are at work, and then by the time we got home, we could party big time.

  • How many years still need to get your machine working?

  • @Lechoslowianin For the time being, I have stopped work on this device. I need a new

    idea to make it work. I am currently thinking about various ideas that viewers have

    suggested.

  • @OK55OK55OK

    Earth have been Circling the Sun for 6 billions years

  • wow excellent idea it works,i think i have idea to improve that to make it better,i know you know it.

  • Mr. ToemanX, If you built this contraption, I applaud you!! It is a very beautiful and well constructed machine. You are very skilled!!! Coool machine. I'm looking forward to seeing what you are working on now!! I'm subscribing! Hurry up!

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  • Why don´t you try to put in a case? To protect from the wind interfering.

  • @kikotenorio Putting a "case" or a solid fence around the device is an excellent idea.

  • @ToemanX Case around it is a terrible idea. It has been proven that this device will not work. However, if you combine wind power, solar power and other factors into one machine, maybe you will come up with something.

  • @JohnnyBrutalUSA I agree with your combination idea. If one approach does not work,

    then combinations must be tried in order to achieve success.

  • You're welcome. Good luck.

  • This is a crazy idea, but it may help... try off centering your wheel frame and have the shorter end heavier in weight. Make the weight difference either proportional to the difference in length from each end to the cam, or slightly off proportion. With this concept, you may need one end to be a stationary weight rather than swinging. Keep at it and keep us posted on your progress!

  • @hobbyland85 You have given me a lot of ideas to think about. Thanks for that. It will

    take me a while to work it all out.

  • so far so good.

    How about attaching some weight as in a granfather clock in order to regulate the energy?

    Keep going, do'nt stop.

  • @axelberry1 Thanks for the suggestion. It might work. I will give it a try.

  • i cant git how it works/.?

  • @mangkardz I would get the" wheel " (the arms) turning by hand first. Once

    turning the weights would shift outward, at the right times, to always make one side

    heavier and thus continuously cause the wheel to keep turning. Unfortunately, I could

    never get the timing right and after awhile the wheel would come to a stop.

  • Great bullshit from Texas ! WOW !

  • @mptrax Texas? Neither me or my device is from Texas.

  • @ToemanX Oh please sorry me.... It looks like a redneck's invention :D

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  • @OK55OK55OK yeAH.

  • A badly balanced flywheel.

  • I like the machine, good lumber. You did a great job but you don't get free energy out of this machine. You can see it, it gets slower and slower if it has no new input of energy. But nice machine, I never saw such a great one made of wood! Looks great!

  • Unlike a lot of others I say Kudos! One must first learn to hammer a nail before they can build a skyscraper. There is no harm in experimenting to learn. The greatest minds of our time were not scholarly engineers, but simple people who took it upon themselves to experiment and learn. Of course some good educational materials only bolsters this, but there's a lot to be said for learning by doing as opposed to just studying. I hope someday you build something really cool, don't give up!

  • Did you bother reading a physics book before trying this project?

    Taking one look at mechanical energy / systems tells you right away energy only flows in one direction. From highest potential to lowest potential. I mean it appears as though you've tried to do something no physicist or scientist has been able to do, and you've completely ignored the basics and failed.

    Did you learn a good lesson from that? Are you at least reading physics and engineering books now? I applaud the attempt, but ...

  • @QuantumChance Your criticism of me is valid. When I began I was ignorant of a lot of physics. However, you

    must realize one learns not just from reading textbooks. Just as valuable is the learning experience of actually making real machines. Even if they fail you still learn alot. This is knowledge that can be used in building one's

    next device.

  • @ToemanX It was a big project, and its just strange (to be quite honest) that someone would be that interested in something and go to that length, and spend that much in materials and labor ~ when you weren't even looking at the basics. I'm not trying to shame you, but perhaps in a way I am - because you see doing such foolish things and wasting one's time is exactly what someone with your apparent interests and intelligence should be doing. In other words, go to engineering school!

  • @QuantumChance I meant *shouldn't be doing.

  • Wow! you've made a wooden flywheel,.. AND wasted $65 worth of lumber, your ingenuity amazes me.

    Pretty poor cutaway between restarts though.

  • @ozzirt Yes, it is now basically a flywheel. However, this was an honest attempt to build a free energy device.

    I'm sorry if you learned nothing from my experience.

  • @ozzirt Had you have listened to anyone with more than a primary school education you would have learned far more, and not wasted your time and money,... not to mention the time of those who stop to look at this.

    If you want to learn carpentry, try making something of some use.

    At least I give you full marks for honesty, unlike so many scammers who inhabit YouTube and state that their devices work.

  • If you haven't torn it apart yet, try changing your hanging weights on a triangle with the top point as your pivot, spread the weight shift and get a swing momentum during rotation...

  • @Rubberband54 You have a good idea. Unfortunately, I dismantled this device some time ago. If I ever rebuild

    it I will keep your idea in mind. I am currently working on another kind of device.

  • I see you device spinning, then when it gets slower, you edit the part where you are likely spinning it again, and take another shot.

    Friction is the problem..

  • What a waste of good lumber. Oh, well -- it can always be cut up and burned for (free) heat in the winter.

    Don't people know the first and second laws of thermodynamics?

  • @oneupagain (1) I am very familiar with the laws of thermodynamics. (2) Nothing is wasted when one tries

    an experiment whether it succeeds or fails. There is always a lot to be learned. What one learns in making

    one device can often be useful in building a completely different device.

  • why does it get slower?

  • u got to unite the weights in such a matter on one side the weigth to be further from the center on the other closer to get a lever

  • @cris23dumi I was trying to achieve this by the way the arm-weights swung in and out. I should have connected the two arms with a rod.

  • @ToemanX one way would be to put a gearwheel in the middle connecting the 2 other wheels they have to be quite sincronized but ull see if it works or not and if created this wheel must not be placed forced cause it will put unnecessary pressure good luck man anyway

  • @ToemanX i would not try to use the swing i see that too hard i would try to make the weights and theyr arms to stay put, horizontally for example while the whole system is trying to get equilibrum

  • @cris23dumi You have a lot of good ideas. I encourage you to build your own small device and try out your ideas

    on it. Right now I am concentrating on a device that uses magnetism as its' source of energy.

  • @ToemanX the centrifugal force can overide the weight on the upswing. You ever tried the kostoff design yet?

  • @rblackwell2771 (1)The centrifugal force is not strong enough, in this speed range, to do that. (2) I have

    studied the Kostoff design but have not attempted to make it. The device needs to be tested more by its'

    inventor.

  • @ToemanX i agree with ya on your setup that the centrifugal force isn't strong enough. The kostoff design is worth looking into if you have the time. they aren't hard to build.

  • @rblackwell2771 Thanks for the suggestion about pursuing the kostoff design but my interests go in a

    different direction. Right now I am working on a buoyancy device that looks promising.

  • @ToemanX fair enough. Maybe you can message me and let me know how it goes. thanks

  • I had a similar idea to this one. Sadly, i wont be putting it on youtube if it works until i have a patent. :[

    But i admire your ingenuity and dedication. Because this big SOB had to take a while to make.

  • Oh mate you just don't get symmetry. In order to spin it needs to be perfectly symmetrical either side of the axis. Because it is symmetrical it will balance and stop.

  • @penaltyref Hey dude, I understand the concept of symmetry. However, this is not always possible to achieve in a eral world device. In my device both sides weigh the same and this is the most important thing.

  • @ToemanX

    Both sides weight the same i.e it's symmetrical. Don't take symmetry as meaning shape only in this instance and if it balances it will eventually stop I'm afraid. Have you tried enlarging a quartz mechanism and treating it like a timepiece? But hey, have fun.

  • @penaltyref (1) If my device remains balanced it will come to a stop. The key to success is learning how to repeatedly

    balance and unbalance the device to keep it spinning. (2) I have thought of using a timing mechanism on

    my device but not one as fine tuned as a quartz crystal.

  • You could 100% get away with needing a Cam by extending a horizontal rod off the non-moving frame, and the alloy rod take & curve it at the end so it drags across that rod, which would release the latch holding the weight. haha It's a bit like designing a SWISS CLOCK OF OLD. You can do it man. You've got it across the hood and bagged for driving home now!!! You have done A MAGNIFICENT JOB. All I did this week was design a new engine that gets 6,000 miles off 15 gallons of gas (wheel in a wheel).

  • When your weights swing AWAY (to the outside) all your system lacks for is a latch that catches it in the full swing position and holds it until the correct release position is reached. It is there you could put a cam~rod release that would TRIGGER IT LOOSE. Instead of trying to use a belt-based system. Because belts are HEAVY & change the overall equation. Rods on the other hand can be a very lightweight alloy & small diameter, v/little weight change. The Cam being near the axle changes LITTLE.

  • Another way to think of it is you have duplicated the swinging force observed in a County Fair Ferris Wheel ride. When the ferris wheel operator stops to take on or leave off a passenger, the empty seats at the top will swing back & forth. You've succeeded in duplicating those empty seat's motion. This is nothing short of AMAZING. You have found an equation that works. I strongly advise you not disassemble it. Start another instead.

  • I think I see what you've done. It appears you stumbled on the exact correct amount of Pendulum Weights versus the Overall Weight (of the swinging units) to where the speed is holding the weights further out til it reaches just the correct spot to "release" (as in => release from the grip of centrifugal force) to swing forward, where the weight swing is ADDED TO BY THE CENTRIFUGAL AGAIN. This is correct because I've seen another Gravity Wheel also work & it also did so by using the centrifugal

  • "Out of Balance" = "Constant State of Imbalance" = "Always Becoming". haha Gravity wheels always need to be "looking ahead" to what they need to be, never satisfied over what they just did.

  • I see what you did because I had also tried to do it => harness the motion of a County Fair Tilt-A-Whirl movement. You've made it do its thing in a vertical setting. Good Work!!! Upon looking it over again I see there isn't a cam~rod release so you must've done it some other way. Very good.

  • It looks like you have put together the right combination of variables. I have a few designs on my website newpath4 dot com that might give you some ideas but from here it looks like you nailed it. By extending the arms out beyond the working pendulums you've added Momentum Constancy. However you managed to get the pendulum weights to hold back from swinging til the proper release point must be a Neat Trick. Did you use a cam~rod release off the main axle? If so it was a great idea!

  • I'd need to see uncut footage of the whole thing (including beyond the right side) to believe this.

  • Let a neighbor spot that clusterfuck and you'll have the feds swarming the place.

  • remember ..the key thing to a gravity wheel is to never let it

    self balance..simplified

    just a though..add a pulley to each with a belt that will turn each side out of sync to off set the chance of it balancing out...using the natural rotation of course but find the balance point of it and use the belt to advance the leverage once it is at the top position.

    Have not tried this on a system like yours but seems logical.

  • @AceThee I can see your key point about never letting the device self-balance.

    However, the trouble is if one belt connects both pendulums then whatever direction the belt moves both pendulums move in the same direction. Don't they? I need a system that moves the pendulums in different directions.

  • @ToemanX

    they both move the same way at the same time as it is...it is just setting it so it would not be able to balance.

    right now from what I see is... the reason they do not move exactly the same way at the same times is do to friction binding each pendulums making it jerk a little.

  • @AceThee

    to continue ..think about it this way ..think of the pendulums moving ...with out the outer structure...2 wheels basically moving the same way...just make it so the weights can never be exactly in the same spot ..ever

    The belt with a, trial and error ,pulley size to off set this balance would make this work. Or go way more advanced with a gear system...

  • Why all the camera stops? It looks like the device is being pushed every now and then because it slows down, then a camera stop and its faster again...

  • @alexioco The spinning arm was being pushed by me. I have decided this is a

    failed design. I put it on Youtube so others might get ideas for their own devices,

    and learn from my mistakes.

  • @ToemanX

    I wouldnt consider it failed just yet.......have you thought of using rare earth magnets to assist in the pendulum counter weights?

  • @epropertytour I had not thought of using permanent magnets. Where exactly

    would I place the magnets in relation to the counter weights.

  • @ToemanX

    Syncronized timed electromagnets may work.

  • @astrosynergy Electromagnets might work. I will have to test the idea when I rebuild the device. Thanks for the advice.

  • @ToemanX

    Toeman, I "rough drafted" a few ideas for your gravity wheel. Is it okay to put this in a post on my site (+ embed your video in the post)?

  • @astrosynergy Go ahead and use my video on your site. It is always a good thing

    to spread ideas around.

  • you need to connect a chain to them

  • @TheDavidshanker I never thought of that before. I will give it some consideration.

  • I wonder what you could have accomplished if you put all this time and energy into something worth while.

  • @jib1000 I believe you have a sincere interest in finding alternative energy devices.

    Why else would you watch my video? You and me both seek this same goal. How else

    can we reach it but to try different approaches. Maybe we will discover something new.

    Let's wish each other luck.

  • @ToemanX Um, good luck on putting your time and energy into something possible?

  • That's a good start! but when you look at the centrifical force needed to keep it going you have to think about it as 2 circles one center and one slightly to the left of the first one and the weight has to be at the outer part of the circle from 1 o'clock till 7 o'clock . so you have to pull the weight to the left when it reaches 7 o'clock and push the other weight outward when it reaches 1 o'clock like a radial piston engine . That is the concept i used! there are some great vids here about it

  • @1100tech Thanks for the insight. I will keep in mind your advice while I continue

    to work on my gravity wheel.

  • i dont think that this will last long. i mean this wheel is started with physical force however if you could run it without it youwill succeed.

    my research is almost the same almost perpetual motion but can last long enough depending on its size. if someone out there is interested feel free to contact me. my research on gravity energy is not perpetual its kinda like a n electric generator without using a fuel just pure mass and gravity.

    heres my contact email hotdrixzz@gmail.com

  • @hotdrixz Basic physics states it is not possible to get a physical object in motion

    without using a physical force. A physical force (gravity) it also needed to keep

    my device in rotation. This force is neccessary to overcome the resistence of

    mechanical and air friction.

  • @ToemanX there is other option like using the elements and not the physical.

    -why dont you try to enclose your machine for lesser air friction..

  • @hotdrixz My device rotates slowly so air resistence is a minor problem. The major

    problem is mechanical friction at the main axle. My device could operate in a perfect

    vacuum and mechanical friction would still stop it. I do not understand your reference

    to "the elements" in regards to my device.

  • @ToemanX i cant explain it further, however in my project i also used gravity as one factor for rotation but with addition of an element, its rotation is faster than your machine but not perpetual motion.

  • 1.You say gravity is not an energy source. I think you mean, in the past, it has never

    provided energy for a mechanical device.

    2. I will be vey sad if I fail because I have put a lot of time, sweat and money into this project.

    3. I am very familiar with the history of gravity wheels. I have studied it extensively.

    I believe I have found a new approach. My wheel is not finished.

  • The gravitational field is a conservative field of force and is never a source of energy. Don't feel bad. Even Davinci envisioned similar gravity powered machines. Ignoring frictional losses, no matter how clever the arrangement of swinging weights, it takes as much energy to lift them as you get back when they fall. Eventually equilibrium is reached and all motion stops.

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