The purpose of a baffle plate is to direct secondary air admitted from the firehole doors, onto the fire to aid in correct combustion and to keep the direct cold air off the tube plate. So no, it won't do any damage!!!!!!!
@BBVCorvettec62005 Not an expert but British kettles are classed from 1 to 9 and P (passenger), F (frieght) or MT (mixed traffic- all-rounders) indicating the weight and type of train they'd usually haul. This is an 8F.
The Black 5 is a Stanier designed, like this, 5MT all of which were painted black (no imagination). They are capable, much loved by crews and buffs and a great many were built (>800 IIRC) with several in preservation.
Way to shock the fire tubes. If you are under load, the door should be closed after every shovel full of coal or else you run the risk of shocking the tubes and creating a crack because of the cold air being sucked in through the door.
@Dragon150043 If you are opening & closing the fire doors after every shovel full, you would be subjecting the tubes & back plate to fluctuating temperatures, which is more likely to cause stresses. Also, top air is necessary to burn off the gasses released from the burning coal to complete combustion & reduced smoke.
I know plenty of EX-BR firemen and drivers who are still very active on preserved lines, no dis-respect to any of them, but only a few would be capable of lasting a railtour
It is a young mans game to fire for several hundred miles non-stop and if it werent for these 'imposters', steam on the mainline would not exist in this day in age
The old experienced people are getting less and less and it is time for a new generation of steam men to take over, whatever their background
It always blows my mind the sheer work of stoking the damn thing - but the work was all worthwhile when you became a driver and were worthy to occupy the Seat of the Wise One
I like how he gives her more gear going through settle station to give the punters a bit of noise, then pulls her back again once they are past! Poser! Nice touch!
great video! forget being a fireman, I know what the best job in the world is! Seening a trackbed killed off by Dr Beeching, then with weekend time, gradually bringing it back to life, so locos like this can run again on forgot routes
I can't believe how long they leave the firebox door open! My word, there's so much draft being wasted! These engines aren't designed to run with it open are they? I know the US engines aren't.
The flap is up, LMS engines were designed to run with the doors open and the flap up when heavy working and consequently continuous firing was required. GWR engines are similar, although the flap is larger and requires opening and shutting with a chain between shovelfuls - the LMS one is dimensioned so you can fire over it and still get the coal down the front end (the blast helps tremendously :D) Although it does take a bit of practice...
Great action shots, as has been said most LMS locos were designed to run with the firebox door open or part open, it allows top air to complete the combustion of any unburnt gasses coming off the fire. It also therefore helps to reduce smoke that would otherwise be produced, as smoke is mainly unburnt gaseous carbon.
What a small world, my Dad who has worked on this engine for over 25 years thinks your film of 48151 coming up Ais Gill is fantastic. I wonder if you could send me the high quality version of it?
My mate and 40 year Longsight footplateman Mick Kelly on the shovel there. Veteran Carlisle Driver Gordion Hodgson on the regulator.
ML66B 6 months ago
The purpose of a baffle plate is to direct secondary air admitted from the firehole doors, onto the fire to aid in correct combustion and to keep the direct cold air off the tube plate. So no, it won't do any damage!!!!!!!
nineteenseventyseven 8 months ago
what is this a black 5 or flying scotsman lol don't know my Britian locomotives....
BBVCorvettec62005 1 year ago
@BBVCorvettec62005 Not an expert but British kettles are classed from 1 to 9 and P (passenger), F (frieght) or MT (mixed traffic- all-rounders) indicating the weight and type of train they'd usually haul. This is an 8F.
The Black 5 is a Stanier designed, like this, 5MT all of which were painted black (no imagination). They are capable, much loved by crews and buffs and a great many were built (>800 IIRC) with several in preservation.
As for Flying Scotsman- you're kidding right?
TimRuffle 1 year ago
Way to shock the fire tubes. If you are under load, the door should be closed after every shovel full of coal or else you run the risk of shocking the tubes and creating a crack because of the cold air being sucked in through the door.
Dragon150043 1 year ago
@Dragon150043 If you are opening & closing the fire doors after every shovel full, you would be subjecting the tubes & back plate to fluctuating temperatures, which is more likely to cause stresses. Also, top air is necessary to burn off the gasses released from the burning coal to complete combustion & reduced smoke.
hiyadroogs 1 year ago
I know plenty of EX-BR firemen and drivers who are still very active on preserved lines, no dis-respect to any of them, but only a few would be capable of lasting a railtour
It is a young mans game to fire for several hundred miles non-stop and if it werent for these 'imposters', steam on the mainline would not exist in this day in age
The old experienced people are getting less and less and it is time for a new generation of steam men to take over, whatever their background
nineteenseventyseven 1 year ago
Bloody Americans with their automatic stokers
gamisbion 1 year ago
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It always blows my mind the sheer work of stoking the damn thing - but the work was all worthwhile when you became a driver and were worthy to occupy the Seat of the Wise One
gamisbion 1 year ago
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gamisbion 1 year ago
Gordon hodgeson = legend!!!!
7607987600 2 years ago 2
I like how he gives her more gear going through settle station to give the punters a bit of noise, then pulls her back again once they are past! Poser! Nice touch!
vaughan84512 2 years ago
Nice to see a proper footplateman with 40 years experience on the shovel instead of one of these imposters!!
;-)
JAT74L 2 years ago
Like who exactly.........?
13cheese999 2 years ago
I think he means the likes of Ian Riley, Chris Birmingham, Craig Stinchcombe and young Meaney.
ralph5407 1 year ago
imposters ? such as who please explain
7607987600 2 years ago
If it weren't for those 'imposters' there would be very little steam on the main line these days. Which would you prefer.
ralph5407 1 year ago
Memories are made of this,could i still do it,that i doubt,but would love to have a go,brilliant video thanks
firemanvic36c 3 years ago
full regulator aswell that must be pelting
trainkid1 3 years ago
stupendously excellent!
fordlandau 3 years ago
Thats Got to be the best job in the world hands down ^_^
WhyAyeMann 3 years ago
great video! forget being a fireman, I know what the best job in the world is! Seening a trackbed killed off by Dr Beeching, then with weekend time, gradually bringing it back to life, so locos like this can run again on forgot routes
cleckheatoncentral 3 years ago
I can't believe how long they leave the firebox door open! My word, there's so much draft being wasted! These engines aren't designed to run with it open are they? I know the US engines aren't.
Good video none the less.
kleetus92 4 years ago
The flap is up, LMS engines were designed to run with the doors open and the flap up when heavy working and consequently continuous firing was required. GWR engines are similar, although the flap is larger and requires opening and shutting with a chain between shovelfuls - the LMS one is dimensioned so you can fire over it and still get the coal down the front end (the blast helps tremendously :D) Although it does take a bit of practice...
limeyfox 3 years ago
Wow, that's pretty impressive. I can see places where that would be useful, and save on fuel.
Good information, thanks!
kleetus92 3 years ago
No worries, not trying to sound like an expert but I've done a couple of years of firing myself :D
limeyfox 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing!
kleetus92 3 years ago
Great action shots, as has been said most LMS locos were designed to run with the firebox door open or part open, it allows top air to complete the combustion of any unburnt gasses coming off the fire. It also therefore helps to reduce smoke that would otherwise be produced, as smoke is mainly unburnt gaseous carbon.
ralph5407 3 years ago
If there is a better job on Earth than being a steam locomotive driver, I don't know what it is!
Thank you for a great over-the-shoulder view of the road ahead.
SteffanLlwyd 4 years ago
there is, bein the fireman :D
lmsfireman 4 years ago
Footplate hey that is great..
cambrian55 4 years ago
Excellent video, well done! Must be a Rose Grove Fireman!
Martyn Richy
noodlemagic 4 years ago
I can't be sure but it does look like Mick Kelly on the shovel.
percythe 4 years ago
Yes it is Mick Kelly firing on the s and c
33207craig 4 years ago
Very impressive - what a privileged view! Thanks for sharing.
Linesider1 4 years ago
What a small world, my Dad who has worked on this engine for over 25 years thinks your film of 48151 coming up Ais Gill is fantastic. I wonder if you could send me the high quality version of it?
Craig
33207craig 4 years ago