Well, what i've heard and learned, you shall not get pain in your throat. But if you do like this, you do get some pain. Lowering your adams apple and shout at the same time isn't the "right" way. But it's a hint of how it maybe feels like. As you said in a comment below there are 4 vocal registers.
So my question is. What type of growl do you think will fit in dead by april, silverstein, bfmv? = ) Cheers m8!
@IsacAdolfssonMusic all vocals clean or metal are strenuous on the throat and include some discomfort...thats why one warms up, warms down adn takes care of throat. One is naive or doing soft effortless not really vocals to think otherwise.
Anyways as for the bands u mentioned they typically almost always do fry and falsetto register vocals and just plain shouting
@XxxxTokyxxxX theres a handful of different techniques based on the 4 vocal registers...and not to sound mean im jsut being abosultely honest and logical....u wont be doing her ghost in the fog in a couple months...at least not anywhere near decent...but either way youll want either a fry and falsetto technique...1st better....dont bother with the whistle haha
@Umbvir sooo idk wtf a fry technique is. and i definitly am not going to do hgitf for a much longer time..dani filth is too amazing..i think that i bit of a better starter would be abhorrence. what do you mean by whstle.
@XxxxTokyxxxX yes startign with growls and lower stuff is easiest, but ill tell u right now, abhorrence vocals are a bad idea. though they are technically fry vocals, i put them under a sub vocals of grunts and pig squeals...and those vocals are talentless and take no skill at all so you ahieveing them would be meaningless. Whislte...as in danis filth whistle. u gotta know what that is lol. its the highest vocal register. the last line of her ghost in the fog and nemesis are both whistles
If you hadn't said "retarded" as much as you did I would've liked this video because it was actually insightful and helpful but then you contradicted yourself by saying "retard."
@AdamMikProductions and exactly how the fuck does saying retard logically contradict myself other than you having some biase because that word makes u sad or u feel its politically incorrect...o wait it cant because its an impossibility. you make less than 0 sense...
but just for arguments sake let me fix this supposed contradiction sir and express my apologies..ready.....go fuck yourself you RETARDED RETARD
The problem is not growling in and of itself, the problem is growling without totally destroying your throat, so that you can sing throughout a concert, and not have to sit quietly for the following days. People say you have to use your diaphragm, and I have no trouble doing it in regular singing or talking, but how to use it in growl I just have no idea :S Could you explain, please?
@ilGCR honestly...if ur vocals are destroying ur throat then its because of the technique itself...support isnt going to help much if at all. Also not sure how you came to think about support the way you do, but support is the same regardless of vocal type. If you know how to support clean vocals then you just need to apply it to metal vocals and merely play around with the amount of support used until its helping ur vocals :P. I made a vid as well explaining, check my profile
@Umbvir Sorry, I can't seem to find the video... Which one is it? Anyway I try more or less every day, and every day get a sore throat. I just can't seem to find an undamaging way to do it. Do you think it just isn't for me? :S
@resman4 mmmm not particularly...should be a little more careful with what u do. just make sure ur throats always near perfect shape before doing anything, give proper recov etc
I've been practicing this lately gecause it feels more natural.. I've commented before but now it seems like i get out of breath pretty quickly.. got any tips on that one?
@sybow dont matter if u smoke... once u get the technique down to its most efficient and natural way for ur own throat ull end up with a vibration point somewhere in back upper part of throat and it will hold back air. then on top of that learning support with diaphram properly will get u the other half so u can go upwards of 10-15 seconds with it most likely
@o0LAZARUS0o that is so vague only someone as genius....or retarded....as i am could even remotely have a clue on what kind of vibration and where etc.....regatdless of what exactly ur talking about...all possibilities are yes...ur only focus is sounding right which means ur doing something right...and stopping for the day when u lose any part of ur voice
I have seen about every ''how to growl'' video I've found on Youtube, still my growling hurts my throat. Now I watched you, completly started from scratch using your method, ''scream'' with the stumach using a lower voice, sure it takes more ''energy'', then my other methods but this doesn't hurt my throat. I have to say, I'm super thankful for this video! THUMPS UP! And first now I understand how I'm supposed to work with the stumach.
@XQriousX ooor, oor, OOOOORRRRR...just maybe you should go fuck yourself...i spent ALOT of time studying how it FEELS and teaching it...and how it feels you stupid fuck is completely subjective, so its absolutely pointless....vocals and singing in general is a conceptual topic...which is why I and vocal teachers do not teach vocals by feeling but by concepts such as this
sooo next time you feel to comment on something u have no clue about, you should instead shut the fuck up...mmmmmm???
Its, actually harder for girls since, they do not breath with their Thoracic diaphragm naturally, as guys do. So a girl should firs train how to breath with it. This applies to all feamale singing actually, every singing course for girls beggins with training that. Its sort of like when you yawn.
@xsuhina in the long run done properly no, though some techniques will a bit.
ull pretty much want to avoid doing both types in teh same session. the growling will tighten ur throat a bit as well as make u raspy in the higher parts. if u start with clean u wont be able to get teh proper vibration for growls
and no girls can do growls and other vocals just as easily...(Alyssa White-Gluz of the Agonist and Angela Gossow of Arch Enemy)
Hey! Im a girl and i want to learn how to growl, but when i try it hurts in my troat and i need som advise. Can u help me? Me and my friend r goin' to start a band and im goin' to be the singer and she want me to learn how to growl. I would really appreciate if u could help me :)
ok im doing this and getting kind of a growl, but it hurts i bit in my throat doing it. i was under the impression growling should never hurt. am i doing something wrong like not breathing properly or something?
@Shinganzer both...it will always be at least irritated even when done right...its vocals...especially in the beginning. and ur most likely not shouting right, most ppl hold back or are reserved and shy for some reason...which indirectly does tie into breathing as in diaphram support
Umbvir, thanks man.. the most helpful vid i've seen on youtube so far.
my growls sound good when i start off but after a while they get really bad. also my voice gets all hoarse and i cant do clean vocals. any suggestions?
umbvir ..i can growl and everything but after 3 or 4 songs my freaking throat hurts like sh*t as in litterally it hurts but my friends say that my growl is like war of ages then still why does it hurt?
@SixxHundredSixtySixx both but mostly the latter option. raspy is from lack of vibration from too much force using throat instead of pushign air with diaphram. word problems is because saying EEEEEEEE forces the throat to close instead of doing eeee liek free pronounce them like ay as in hay...so instead of free u would say fray more or less which being elongated still sounds liek free.
only frys do eee's becuase frys are very simple and take little effort
i learned how to growl like 2 years ago but with some of your vids and your guiding i got better fast. (watched them maybe a month ago?) i experimented with it and found out how to do dimmu borgir and graveworm style. Just wanted to say thanks ;)
@Mrxionz ya, ill be completely blunt as ive went over this thousands of times...only talking about mine here, this forces you to do it u dont have a choice.
So if ur not doing it ur either not even trying or you dont understand anything very well...ppl with english as a 2nd language usually fall into second category.
Literally cant go any simpler..shout like ppl far away/lower voice. in most cases ppl arent shouting properly they hold back.
@Mrxionz like i said if u really actually want to do it and take it seriously then msg me and well talk cuz im sure i already know what ur doing wrong
@ReeReTV in short yes its that easy, if u do both properly....and no being 14 isnt a problem, i wasnt doing stuff at 14, except in ur case ull be doing it right unlike me who taught myself. youll just have to relearn some things and change technique a bit as ur voice changes
what's the common name for this tech? I've been growling for about a year and a half doing the false chord technique, but I want to learn that "cookie monster" style too, which I think is the tech you are using.
@goatambush lol no im not using cookie monster its a fry and only assholes use cookie monster....cookie moneter is cool, his sound is vocal skillwise shit.
and theres only 4 actual techs based on the normal vocal register they based off of.
Fry which is stupid ass grunting and squeal shit also most low vocals
Normal are growls high growls and screams, the most versatile.
falsetto which is alot of black metal screams typically.
Whistle which most cant do like dani filth and illnath do
@goatambush I can do all 4 awesome, but I only use the latter 3 cuz i hate fry, alot of it is done as easy skill-less low shit the shouldnt be considered vocals cuz ur not doing anythign or pronouncing anything of any kind that would make it vocals...just retarded sounds.
I can go into greater detail if you wish but im not gonna do it as replies on comments
@Umbvir ok cheers ill give it a go, i regret learning the fry first but it like came along naturally and i find its really good for doing high screams but when it comes to doing lower stuff its really not my strong point but cheers for the tips :D
@Umbvir heyy dude i enjoyed watching this and im trying my best to learn from this, is growling like that like doing fry screaming?, my friend can growl like this and he said its kinda like when you have like a big sigh and you can feel the vibration in your throat and you need to use that, because im finding it so hard to do because im so used to the fry,im not getting anywhere :P any tips ?
@bodomblooddrunk1 no they are completely diff techniques...its a fry cuz its using the vocal fry register...mine is in the normal register, there is the falsetto above that and then whistle. frys vibration point is in the front of the throat, bottom to 3/4 up. normal is in mid to back and can go to bottom and top. move ur vib point to back of ur throat. ur gonna have a hard time since u did fry first
good stuff man, great explanation. there are too many "tutorials" that don't actually teach anything... thanks for posting! and btw, no offense intended or anything, but am I the only one who noticed that the combination of his appearance and his room and that bright blue color makes this whole thing look like it came out of a kids show like the wiggles or something creepy like that? lol just saying. not that its bad or anything...
@D3trl haha called bracers and order them at Mattara Design. Its an ebay shop, you can buy the stuff he makes or you can work with him to custom make something
@D3trl depends on your definition of tremendous. I buy online almost exclusively so in this case the price and shipping was more than fair...it was 100CAD per bracer and like 15 shipping. had them over 5 yrs now still great condition
You really sound like retard, when you lower your voice xD But this video actually really helps, because you explain everything in simple and easy-to-remember way xD
@pappaOfswe and what exactly are you basing this off of...what I did as an example and not an actual one or did you time the time to watch some latest vids...pretty sure its the first option
your a retarded dude your gonna teach people how to blow there fkn vocal chords. your not supost to use vocal chords while growling your you will fuck up you throat.
@DeathlyILL42 or maybe..MAYBE ur the one whos a retard and should shut the fuck up and go fuck yourself...this is obviosuly way above your negative IQ level to get...
Heres a little secret about when you do this properly..IT DOESNT USE YOUR THROAT u fucking idiot. anyways enough time wasted on you
Great man, at last i've found a video that can actually teach something. I hope to learn the basic technique before this months end at least. I'm classical schooled in singing so none of my teachers, know shit about growling.., it was the same when i asked them about belting and had to learn it on my own instead. Thx for your video! :)
@CatsHaveDreams actually I taught self vocals first and then took classical singing lessons for 6 months to clean sing better and transfer over some techniques with support and such....she was like what are your goals and what can you do now....i was like im expanding my skills in this RAAAAAAAAAAAAA....
she was like..ummmm.....wow...ir elaly cant heko you with that...i said DUHHHH u just teach me classical shit..ILL do the translating over to vocals
I dont realy aggre with you on the dont make your own video part. I say you should put yourself out there and write in comment that you are learning growl and ask for tipes how to make it better. If u dare that is :P
ppl rarely read or care that you're learning...and then youll have beginners getting tips from retards who dont know what the fuck they are talking about.
ooor you get retard beginners who after 2 hours of practice they think they are the best thing ever and get a fucken complex...
I get pissed off enough by retards...i like to keep retardation to a minimum
lol, then before your next attempt ur gonna have to think long and hard about why ur doing both parts wrong, cuz thats the only way for it to hurt that much
do it when ur alone so you can shout without any reservation...from ur stomach/diaphram....and make sure your adams apple actually lowers
well i have tried to lower my adams apple, and its not going so long down. first time i started it didnt get dry or hurt, but for this month, it have been dry or hurting and im going it wrong can u give some tips? or something please :)
well...for the most part...not sure how long ur talking about or ur technique..but i dont ever really get dry unless i stray from my mains. some techniques are alot rougher than others
if ur talking about within an hour or a few songs then no, you have to use a diff technique or try make that one more efficient
depends on which low growls ur talking about, if its the growls like I do then its just moving the vibration point to the upper back area of throat and "using neck muscles to make it tight" so to speak, with good support of course.
if ur growls are "so low I drop ur IQ and cant pronounce anything grunt like an ape" then you need to change your technique completely to one that I use or something similar than can do them
there is no chance I will practice this since I live with my parents, they will probably go mad if they here me sitting in front of the computer screaming lol xD
I had the same situation, and now living in a dorm its just if not more impossible without the risk of looking like a psycho haha! Umbvir, where did you work on learning it?
im 13, so i live with my parents too, but i like to practice growls sometimes, i do it when im alone, but i like playing guitar better, but if i ever get good growls and im not that good at guitar i will focus on growls
yea true that..except hardcore the original style.metalcore is just bull shit..hey man u should do a gojira cover their vocalist is pretty tite..u should do embrace the world or death of me..
oh, i clicked this cuz i thought Umbvir was some fancy new thing electronic device that helps you sing, and i was all "well that's fucking dumb" but its your NAME!! ahah, god im retarded...
ty dude...finnaly a vid showing you a real life case in witch you use your diaphragm ....not like all other vids that just tell you ...use the diaphragm
I was really surprised when I tried it just quickly and a small growl actually come out. I'm definitely going to work on this haha. Thanks!
cherripaint 2 months ago
Well, what i've heard and learned, you shall not get pain in your throat. But if you do like this, you do get some pain. Lowering your adams apple and shout at the same time isn't the "right" way. But it's a hint of how it maybe feels like. As you said in a comment below there are 4 vocal registers.
So my question is. What type of growl do you think will fit in dead by april, silverstein, bfmv? = ) Cheers m8!
IsacAdolfssonMusic 3 months ago
@IsacAdolfssonMusic all vocals clean or metal are strenuous on the throat and include some discomfort...thats why one warms up, warms down adn takes care of throat. One is naive or doing soft effortless not really vocals to think otherwise.
Anyways as for the bands u mentioned they typically almost always do fry and falsetto register vocals and just plain shouting
Umbvir 3 months ago
No one ever made it this simple you're awesome man freakin love ya!
tinambulle 5 months ago
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syksthemonster 6 months ago
@syksthemonster u can get deeper with this...its just up to you to play aroudn with the technique a bit after uve got it down to get it lower ;p
Umbvir 6 months ago
@Umbvir k thanx \m/ :)
syksthemonster 6 months ago
This gave me hopes lol
Necrypt 6 months ago
Um..isn't there a sort of closing of the throat too? I wanna do a vocal cover of Her Ghost in the Fog in few months..
XxxxTokyxxxX 6 months ago
@XxxxTokyxxxX theres a handful of different techniques based on the 4 vocal registers...and not to sound mean im jsut being abosultely honest and logical....u wont be doing her ghost in the fog in a couple months...at least not anywhere near decent...but either way youll want either a fry and falsetto technique...1st better....dont bother with the whistle haha
Umbvir 6 months ago
@Umbvir sooo idk wtf a fry technique is. and i definitly am not going to do hgitf for a much longer time..dani filth is too amazing..i think that i bit of a better starter would be abhorrence. what do you mean by whstle.
XxxxTokyxxxX 6 months ago
@XxxxTokyxxxX yes startign with growls and lower stuff is easiest, but ill tell u right now, abhorrence vocals are a bad idea. though they are technically fry vocals, i put them under a sub vocals of grunts and pig squeals...and those vocals are talentless and take no skill at all so you ahieveing them would be meaningless. Whislte...as in danis filth whistle. u gotta know what that is lol. its the highest vocal register. the last line of her ghost in the fog and nemesis are both whistles
Umbvir 6 months ago
Hey Umbvir huge fan of Graveworm but can i make a request for Carach Angren- The Carriage Wheel Murder? id love to hear you do it :3
TheJapslap 7 months ago
If you hadn't said "retarded" as much as you did I would've liked this video because it was actually insightful and helpful but then you contradicted yourself by saying "retard."
AdamMikProductions 8 months ago
@AdamMikProductions and exactly how the fuck does saying retard logically contradict myself other than you having some biase because that word makes u sad or u feel its politically incorrect...o wait it cant because its an impossibility. you make less than 0 sense...
but just for arguments sake let me fix this supposed contradiction sir and express my apologies..ready.....go fuck yourself you RETARDED RETARD
Umbvir 8 months ago
@AdamMikProductions he only said retarded twice
Cigaweedable 7 months ago
The problem is not growling in and of itself, the problem is growling without totally destroying your throat, so that you can sing throughout a concert, and not have to sit quietly for the following days. People say you have to use your diaphragm, and I have no trouble doing it in regular singing or talking, but how to use it in growl I just have no idea :S Could you explain, please?
ilGCR 8 months ago
@ilGCR honestly...if ur vocals are destroying ur throat then its because of the technique itself...support isnt going to help much if at all. Also not sure how you came to think about support the way you do, but support is the same regardless of vocal type. If you know how to support clean vocals then you just need to apply it to metal vocals and merely play around with the amount of support used until its helping ur vocals :P. I made a vid as well explaining, check my profile
Umbvir 8 months ago
@Umbvir Sorry, I can't seem to find the video... Which one is it? Anyway I try more or less every day, and every day get a sore throat. I just can't seem to find an undamaging way to do it. Do you think it just isn't for me? :S
ilGCR 8 months ago
DUDE 4:00 WAS FUCKING EPIC!
EMSPlayer4Life 8 months ago
i'm 15, will i fuck up my voice if i start trying to growl?
resman4 9 months ago
@resman4 mmmm not particularly...should be a little more careful with what u do. just make sure ur throats always near perfect shape before doing anything, give proper recov etc
Umbvir 9 months ago
いい部屋だな
家賃高いだろ
MRKK1996 10 months ago
I've been practicing this lately gecause it feels more natural.. I've commented before but now it seems like i get out of breath pretty quickly.. got any tips on that one?
PS: Yes, I do smoke.. for if you are wondering.
sybow 10 months ago
@sybow dont matter if u smoke... once u get the technique down to its most efficient and natural way for ur own throat ull end up with a vibration point somewhere in back upper part of throat and it will hold back air. then on top of that learning support with diaphram properly will get u the other half so u can go upwards of 10-15 seconds with it most likely
Umbvir 10 months ago
@Umbvir when i do the growl, should i feel any wierd vibration in my throat?
o0LAZARUS0o 8 months ago
@o0LAZARUS0o that is so vague only someone as genius....or retarded....as i am could even remotely have a clue on what kind of vibration and where etc.....regatdless of what exactly ur talking about...all possibilities are yes...ur only focus is sounding right which means ur doing something right...and stopping for the day when u lose any part of ur voice
Umbvir 8 months ago
hahaha hey dousch bag get ova here
Rickster126 10 months ago
i had to turn my youtube volume all the way up and my sound on my computer all the way up and still couldnt here you TURN YOUR MIC THE FUCKK UP!!!
ZachBorst17 11 months ago
@ZachBorst17 Theres something wrong then, i can hear it perfectly
shenkeey 11 months ago
please tell me what band your in? please.
theoverseerjams 11 months ago
hey douche bag get over here xD!
BakedOmlett 11 months ago
I'm drunk!!!!!!!!!!!! and I'm growling
Bobothecat15 11 months ago
I have seen about every ''how to growl'' video I've found on Youtube, still my growling hurts my throat. Now I watched you, completly started from scratch using your method, ''scream'' with the stumach using a lower voice, sure it takes more ''energy'', then my other methods but this doesn't hurt my throat. I have to say, I'm super thankful for this video! THUMPS UP! And first now I understand how I'm supposed to work with the stumach.
Tongon99 1 year ago
At least it is more shouting than growl...i think nobody can realy explain growling.
The person must explore and find the right options :)
Motorbroetchen 1 year ago
XD HEY DOUCHEBAG!
julian1021 1 year ago
haha at 4:01 I could hear someone in the background calling him (Probably to tell him not to growl) XD
FanTazTiCxD 1 year ago
This was so funny
Loved it :))
Dannysiatat 1 year ago
hahaha 'hey douchebag, get over here!' yooo shouting then lowering your voice does work, never thought of that!
Sk8er392 1 year ago
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XQriousX 1 year ago
@XQriousX ooor, oor, OOOOORRRRR...just maybe you should go fuck yourself...i spent ALOT of time studying how it FEELS and teaching it...and how it feels you stupid fuck is completely subjective, so its absolutely pointless....vocals and singing in general is a conceptual topic...which is why I and vocal teachers do not teach vocals by feeling but by concepts such as this
sooo next time you feel to comment on something u have no clue about, you should instead shut the fuck up...mmmmmm???
Umbvir 1 year ago
Cane girls growling ?
Lilly0kiss 1 year ago
@Lilly0kiss yeees girls can growl
Umbvir 1 year ago
@Lilly0kiss Arch Enemy
herdziojr 1 year ago
@Lilly0kiss flyleaf-so sick thats a girl who growls/sings
Clyro1337Editer 1 year ago
@Lilly0kiss
just look up Arch Enemy and listen and watch the vid for We will rise. its a female and she growls and screams all the time
Xxdarkarchangel34xX 1 year ago
Its, actually harder for girls since, they do not breath with their Thoracic diaphragm naturally, as guys do. So a girl should firs train how to breath with it. This applies to all feamale singing actually, every singing course for girls beggins with training that. Its sort of like when you yawn.
koronkie 11 months ago
@koronkie not all guys breath with their diaphragm either though :)
shenkeey 11 months ago
@Lilly0kiss search for arch enemy or angela gossow ^^
CptCottonfield 11 months ago
@Lilly0kiss
yeah, listen to Arch Enemy, they have a female growler, she's amazing!
GaaGerzGuitar 10 months ago
@GaaGerzGuitar & The Agonist
shenkeey 10 months ago
@Lilly0kiss Yes girls and women. Women like Lori Bravo, Angela Gossow, Vivian Slaughter and others.
Horzagiar 9 months ago
@Lilly0kiss Yes girls and women can growl. Women like Lori Bravo, Angela Gossow, Vivian Slaughter and others.
Horzagiar 9 months ago
you are fuking stupid infidel beter
gilfriedman123 1 year ago
cannot girls growls? =s
HuUAe 1 year ago
"HEY, DOUCHE BAG, GET OVER HERE!"
shunburke 1 year ago
Hi.
I tend to sing alot, and I'm wondering if growling is going to ruine my cleen high tones ?
I also wonder, is it harder to growl fur us girls than it is for guys ?
xsuhina 1 year ago
@xsuhina in the long run done properly no, though some techniques will a bit.
ull pretty much want to avoid doing both types in teh same session. the growling will tighten ur throat a bit as well as make u raspy in the higher parts. if u start with clean u wont be able to get teh proper vibration for growls
and no girls can do growls and other vocals just as easily...(Alyssa White-Gluz of the Agonist and Angela Gossow of Arch Enemy)
Umbvir 1 year ago
@xsuhina it is not difficult to growl for us girls... Its much cleaner to hear a girl growl.. this vid really helped me a lot... JUST PRACTICE..
momoleanda 1 year ago
Thank you so much!! This four minute video has been more helpful to me than the countless other videos and tips I've found on how to growl.
corpsegrinder1988 1 year ago
my neighbor is constantly saying me to shut the fuck up lol!
sothgunfil 1 year ago
*it's not goin' to be a great growl like i'm doin'*
lol)) your so "shy" hahaha
CrawlerSoul 1 year ago
holy crap u_u
TheMarcostaylor 1 year ago
Hey! Im a girl and i want to learn how to growl, but when i try it hurts in my troat and i need som advise. Can u help me? Me and my friend r goin' to start a band and im goin' to be the singer and she want me to learn how to growl. I would really appreciate if u could help me :)
Reitailoveu 1 year ago
i was laughing when he said hey douchebag get over here
hello4563217 1 year ago
Works, tough it sounds bad when i do it xD
Thx :p
DesertedButter 1 year ago
Thumbs up if you believe that @Umbvir looks like Matt Tuck.
gaikwadakshay 1 year ago
i tried this but it wont just sound like growls it sounds more like deep shouts
jildestad 1 year ago
rofl =)) hey douchebag im ovehere =))
bajeatu11 1 year ago
ok im doing this and getting kind of a growl, but it hurts i bit in my throat doing it. i was under the impression growling should never hurt. am i doing something wrong like not breathing properly or something?
Shinganzer 1 year ago
@Shinganzer both...it will always be at least irritated even when done right...its vocals...especially in the beginning. and ur most likely not shouting right, most ppl hold back or are reserved and shy for some reason...which indirectly does tie into breathing as in diaphram support
Umbvir 1 year ago
this is good, most of the stuff is variations on melissa cross shit and pathetic puppy growls
Huzzawful 1 year ago
HEY DOUCHEBAG COME OVER HERE! XD NICE VIDEO MAN I DIDNT KNEW HOW TO GROWL only knew to scream, lows, and pigsqueal :D thx a lot
Franzlimones 1 year ago
pretty usefull thnx for these advices i'm begginer of gutural and I'd like to know more
btw I saw your cover from dolls and I say keep going man you got my respect
TheLaner0222 1 year ago
thhhhaaaaaaaaaaaankkkk you so much (i'll not telling you that enough i think) because it helped me a lot to start growling.
so well, thank's thank's thank's thank's... etc^^
ThePookyinmurderland 1 year ago
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Thanks Alot Man! :D Great Tutrial! :D
ManfredsGreatPage 1 year ago
Thaks alot man! :D Great tutrial! :D :D :D
ManfredsGreatPage 1 year ago
How to make the chewbacca noise is in the suggestions? O.o
ArtificialFlavaFTB2 1 year ago 13
Umbvir, thanks man.. the most helpful vid i've seen on youtube so far.
my growls sound good when i start off but after a while they get really bad. also my voice gets all hoarse and i cant do clean vocals. any suggestions?
dumbdogsdontbark 1 year ago
Im a growler/singer in a Avant Garde band, and i like to thank you.
So far I've been using more throat than stomach power, and the information about not "pushing" air out is also helping my throat :)
I lift my hat for you mate!
Hangnail87 1 year ago
you talk too much !
losiento22 1 year ago
umbvir ..i can growl and everything but after 3 or 4 songs my freaking throat hurts like sh*t as in litterally it hurts but my friends say that my growl is like war of ages then still why does it hurt?
dengvampira 1 year ago
Your video is the most helpful "how to growl" video on youtube, hi5.
stratomanny 1 year ago
thanks. I will practice with this.
Daewen89 1 year ago
THANKS SO FUCKING MUCH :D
epicKiipa 1 year ago
ok im doing this, but my growl comes out very raspy and im having problems to form some words, will a train this away or am i doing something wrong?
SixxHundredSixtySixx 1 year ago
@SixxHundredSixtySixx both but mostly the latter option. raspy is from lack of vibration from too much force using throat instead of pushign air with diaphram. word problems is because saying EEEEEEEE forces the throat to close instead of doing eeee liek free pronounce them like ay as in hay...so instead of free u would say fray more or less which being elongated still sounds liek free.
only frys do eee's becuase frys are very simple and take little effort
Umbvir 1 year ago
i learned how to growl like 2 years ago but with some of your vids and your guiding i got better fast. (watched them maybe a month ago?) i experimented with it and found out how to do dimmu borgir and graveworm style. Just wanted to say thanks ;)
Shade406 1 year ago
how much time does it take to make a basic growl sound?
omuldincer 1 year ago
nvm looks like Im not really growling at all >< /sigh i just cant do it.
and no im not too young, im 18.
runemaster123654 1 year ago
haha Im able to growl, but its always low pitch, how can I do a higher pitch one like shagrath from dimmu borgir?
runemaster123654 1 year ago
Idk . Everything i try doesnt seem to work. I cant even get the "any kind of screamo sound" out of my throat.... Any help?
Mrxionz 1 year ago
@Mrxionz ya, ill be completely blunt as ive went over this thousands of times...only talking about mine here, this forces you to do it u dont have a choice.
So if ur not doing it ur either not even trying or you dont understand anything very well...ppl with english as a 2nd language usually fall into second category.
Literally cant go any simpler..shout like ppl far away/lower voice. in most cases ppl arent shouting properly they hold back.
msg me i guess if really want help
Umbvir 1 year ago
@Umbvir Yeah english is my first language im not like mexican or anything. I just guess i need more practice cuz at the moment i blow cock.
Mrxionz 1 year ago
@Mrxionz like i said if u really actually want to do it and take it seriously then msg me and well talk cuz im sure i already know what ur doing wrong
Umbvir 1 year ago
dude u sound like david spade but ur growls r amazing. lol thanks alot :3
ch3y3nn3m3l3nd3z123 1 year ago
i think he was talking to justing beiber when he said hey douche bag!!!
360DOT 1 year ago 28
@360DOT haha, dude 100 per fucking cent!!! I despise him so damn much
Umbvir 1 year ago
@ReeReTV in short yes its that easy, if u do both properly....and no being 14 isnt a problem, i wasnt doing stuff at 14, except in ur case ull be doing it right unlike me who taught myself. youll just have to relearn some things and change technique a bit as ur voice changes
Umbvir 1 year ago
omg omg 2.59-3.03 is so funny lmao
but very helpfull TOP
982550 1 year ago
thanks umbvir! I find this very helpful! I will keep practicing till i get a great growl :D
metalmaniac544 1 year ago
HEY DOUCHEBAG GET OVER HERE XDD
jesuislepluscool 1 year ago
Thanks for this!!!
vruchtegebak 1 year ago
is slipknot soft for you..or just you dont like it..o and LUV this vid thx!!
nikkyniks9987 1 year ago
Gave it a try 4 times.
It worked 3 times.
MOST EFFICIENT METHOD WHICH I TRIED!!!
Skakhti 1 year ago
what's the common name for this tech? I've been growling for about a year and a half doing the false chord technique, but I want to learn that "cookie monster" style too, which I think is the tech you are using.
goatambush 1 year ago
@goatambush lol no im not using cookie monster its a fry and only assholes use cookie monster....cookie moneter is cool, his sound is vocal skillwise shit.
and theres only 4 actual techs based on the normal vocal register they based off of.
Fry which is stupid ass grunting and squeal shit also most low vocals
Normal are growls high growls and screams, the most versatile.
falsetto which is alot of black metal screams typically.
Whistle which most cant do like dani filth and illnath do
Umbvir 1 year ago
@goatambush I can do all 4 awesome, but I only use the latter 3 cuz i hate fry, alot of it is done as easy skill-less low shit the shouldnt be considered vocals cuz ur not doing anythign or pronouncing anything of any kind that would make it vocals...just retarded sounds.
I can go into greater detail if you wish but im not gonna do it as replies on comments
Umbvir 1 year ago
Extremely helpful
nromando 1 year ago
dude i can hear your mum in the background xD
davidhaab 1 year ago
cool blue room :D
Slipnotes 1 year ago
you kinda funny :)
foreverhisgirlify 1 year ago
@Umbvir ok cheers ill give it a go, i regret learning the fry first but it like came along naturally and i find its really good for doing high screams but when it comes to doing lower stuff its really not my strong point but cheers for the tips :D
bodomblooddrunk1 1 year ago
@Umbvir heyy dude i enjoyed watching this and im trying my best to learn from this, is growling like that like doing fry screaming?, my friend can growl like this and he said its kinda like when you have like a big sigh and you can feel the vibration in your throat and you need to use that, because im finding it so hard to do because im so used to the fry,im not getting anywhere :P any tips ?
bodomblooddrunk1 1 year ago
@bodomblooddrunk1 no they are completely diff techniques...its a fry cuz its using the vocal fry register...mine is in the normal register, there is the falsetto above that and then whistle. frys vibration point is in the front of the throat, bottom to 3/4 up. normal is in mid to back and can go to bottom and top. move ur vib point to back of ur throat. ur gonna have a hard time since u did fry first
Umbvir 1 year ago
Hahahha duuude you helped me alot ^^ it actually works great :D Thanks! and by the way it sounds awesome when ur growling :D
Noztroe 1 year ago
And yeah by the way.. after i've "growled" my voice gets hoarse. Do you know how i can do to make my voice less hoarse after?
Noztroe 1 year ago
good stuff man, great explanation. there are too many "tutorials" that don't actually teach anything... thanks for posting! and btw, no offense intended or anything, but am I the only one who noticed that the combination of his appearance and his room and that bright blue color makes this whole thing look like it came out of a kids show like the wiggles or something creepy like that? lol just saying. not that its bad or anything...
lurxtlifeson 1 year ago
did your neighbor said after 4:00
stop it, shut up?
lol :P nice vid thnx for the tips!
Traiannnn 1 year ago
does anyone know where i could get those things, (i don't know how they're called) he has on his hands?
D3trl 1 year ago
@D3trl haha called bracers and order them at Mattara Design. Its an ebay shop, you can buy the stuff he makes or you can work with him to custom make something
Umbvir 1 year ago
@Umbvir thanks man. but what about the shipment costs? i hope it wont be tremendous cost.
D3trl 1 year ago
@D3trl depends on your definition of tremendous. I buy online almost exclusively so in this case the price and shipping was more than fair...it was 100CAD per bracer and like 15 shipping. had them over 5 yrs now still great condition
Umbvir 1 year ago
after 4:00 you can hear the neighbor complain :P
sibzter 1 year ago
Would be great if someone looked at my channel to give me opinions and feedback about my growl.
Iv'e just uploaded one short bastard so far, but more will come.
stiffyMetal 1 year ago
hey i heard someone say hey shut up when you were saying hey
EVILBUNNIE100 1 year ago
4:03 Is there someone in the background saying something? :3
TorressssssME 1 year ago
You really sound like retard, when you lower your voice xD But this video actually really helps, because you explain everything in simple and easy-to-remember way xD
tudensky 1 year ago
Thx for this :) but i dont think your so good at growling. but thx for vid :D
pappaOfswe 1 year ago
@pappaOfswe and what exactly are you basing this off of...what I did as an example and not an actual one or did you time the time to watch some latest vids...pretty sure its the first option
Umbvir 1 year ago
@Umbvir first option was the right one. sry.
pappaOfswe 1 year ago
@Umbvir papaOfSwe just got completely owned :D
Enraged10 1 year ago
can you make a vido on how to do higher pitch vocals?
like the ones form illnath or the ones stefan does in graveworm
this helped me out a lot by the way
noncomputergeek2 1 year ago
"you also sound like retard" :D
inphrased 1 year ago
I think you look better with shorter hair. xP
LoveThatDeathMetal 1 year ago
your a retarded dude your gonna teach people how to blow there fkn vocal chords. your not supost to use vocal chords while growling your you will fuck up you throat.
DeathlyILL42 1 year ago
@DeathlyILL42 or maybe..MAYBE ur the one whos a retard and should shut the fuck up and go fuck yourself...this is obviosuly way above your negative IQ level to get...
Heres a little secret about when you do this properly..IT DOESNT USE YOUR THROAT u fucking idiot. anyways enough time wasted on you
Umbvir 1 year ago
Can I do this when Im in puberty?
klitmajakka 1 year ago
@klitmajakka sure, just dont expect to keep anything you end up getting if you can even get there...still very beneficial to start now though
Umbvir 1 year ago
@klitmajakka Haha, wellcome to the club ;)
Hence95 1 year ago
I can growl very good... And im not just saying that.
Ive been training for 2 years now.
Its awesome and i feel proud over it :)
snuffisx9 1 year ago
hey man i need help i sent you my video i need tips and pointers please give me tips and shit look at my page please need help
dylanmikeproductions 1 year ago
great vid. good way of teaching too ^^
toytheninja 1 year ago
Great man, at last i've found a video that can actually teach something. I hope to learn the basic technique before this months end at least. I'm classical schooled in singing so none of my teachers, know shit about growling.., it was the same when i asked them about belting and had to learn it on my own instead. Thx for your video! :)
CatsHaveDreams 1 year ago
@CatsHaveDreams actually I taught self vocals first and then took classical singing lessons for 6 months to clean sing better and transfer over some techniques with support and such....she was like what are your goals and what can you do now....i was like im expanding my skills in this RAAAAAAAAAAAAA....
she was like..ummmm.....wow...ir elaly cant heko you with that...i said DUHHHH u just teach me classical shit..ILL do the translating over to vocals
Umbvir 1 year ago
I dont realy aggre with you on the dont make your own video part. I say you should put yourself out there and write in comment that you are learning growl and ask for tipes how to make it better. If u dare that is :P
xdion 1 year ago
ppl rarely read or care that you're learning...and then youll have beginners getting tips from retards who dont know what the fuck they are talking about.
ooor you get retard beginners who after 2 hours of practice they think they are the best thing ever and get a fucken complex...
I get pissed off enough by retards...i like to keep retardation to a minimum
Umbvir 1 year ago
wtf it hurts my throat when i do it :( im gonna cry
OneElmgren 1 year ago
lol, then before your next attempt ur gonna have to think long and hard about why ur doing both parts wrong, cuz thats the only way for it to hurt that much
do it when ur alone so you can shout without any reservation...from ur stomach/diaphram....and make sure your adams apple actually lowers
Umbvir 1 year ago
well i have tried to lower my adams apple, and its not going so long down. first time i started it didnt get dry or hurt, but for this month, it have been dry or hurting and im going it wrong can u give some tips? or something please :)
TheLastZombieFreak 1 year ago
well honestly no haha, I have no information to go on.
lets just save both of us...especially me alot of trouble and just msg me so I can give you my msn...then we can talk that way.
Umbvir 1 year ago
hey douchebag, get over here:L:L:L
TheUnforgivenTU 1 year ago
please answer quick :)
TheLastZombieFreak 1 year ago
well...for the most part...not sure how long ur talking about or ur technique..but i dont ever really get dry unless i stray from my mains. some techniques are alot rougher than others
if ur talking about within an hour or a few songs then no, you have to use a diff technique or try make that one more efficient
Umbvir 1 year ago
Hey man u helped me a lot and i have practice in soon a year but, then i growl to much or to long my trout is getting dry is that normal?
TheLastZombieFreak 1 year ago
i can do low growls, but i dont understand how to do the high pitch growl. any tips??
aaandreas2 1 year ago
depends on which low growls ur talking about, if its the growls like I do then its just moving the vibration point to the upper back area of throat and "using neck muscles to make it tight" so to speak, with good support of course.
if ur growls are "so low I drop ur IQ and cant pronounce anything grunt like an ape" then you need to change your technique completely to one that I use or something similar than can do them
Umbvir 1 year ago
My adam's apple goes UP when I lower my voice. Is that normal?
Jotto999 1 year ago
no if ur voice does sound to you like its going lower..then you are usign that sound like a retard way :p.
u should be able to move ur adams appale without even making sound then ull know how ur throat shoudl be
Umbvir 1 year ago
there is no chance I will practice this since I live with my parents, they will probably go mad if they here me sitting in front of the computer screaming lol xD
zamton 1 year ago 37
@zamton
I had the same situation, and now living in a dorm its just if not more impossible without the risk of looking like a psycho haha! Umbvir, where did you work on learning it?
CapnKeys 1 year ago
@zamton
im 13, so i live with my parents too, but i like to practice growls sometimes, i do it when im alone, but i like playing guitar better, but if i ever get good growls and im not that good at guitar i will focus on growls
MetalHeadFilipeG96 1 year ago
got the same problem :(
GizRockWarlock 1 year ago
That actaully works to a certain extent :D
Enraged10 1 year ago
u dont use flem right?i checked ur other vids and it doesnt sound like it..
-im not a vocalist
tanvo93 1 year ago
lol nono, u cant do vocals using flem at all :P
Umbvir 1 year ago
i hear alot of deathcore bands using it..doesnt soundgood i dont listen to deathcore tho
tanvo93 1 year ago
well any thing associated with core in any way isnt even music so ya thats a good thing haha
Umbvir 1 year ago
yea true that..except hardcore the original style.metalcore is just bull shit..hey man u should do a gojira cover their vocalist is pretty tite..u should do embrace the world or death of me..
tanvo93 1 year ago
grindcore is fucking amazing :] rest of cores just suck ;]
Mightykubson 1 year ago
may it help to develope a deeper voice when i smoke? just wondering cause i started smoke for about 2 months ago
tysken94 1 year ago
dont really think it will help with deeper voice...though it will change how ur throat responds
Umbvir 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hi
I just can't growl using my diaphragm
Can you help me?
gongasgr33n 1 year ago
watch my vocal tips vid it explains support properly and it will take alot of practice afterwards to use it properly with growling
Umbvir 1 year ago
hey douche bag get over here.. hahahahah :P
luciferAir 2 years ago 3
hey man
thnx ALOT!
i was a rooky for grunting and now i'm startin to get the hang of it:D
greetz
RayRobins 2 years ago
oh, i clicked this cuz i thought Umbvir was some fancy new thing electronic device that helps you sing, and i was all "well that's fucking dumb" but its your NAME!! ahah, god im retarded...
markacola 2 years ago
Awesome tutorial, im not a singer, but i can growl without learning it. I use 100% the same technique ^^
Pagansy 2 years ago
ty dude...finnaly a vid showing you a real life case in witch you use your diaphragm ....not like all other vids that just tell you ...use the diaphragm
PogoDude 2 years ago