@yumekuimerry22 the motor, esc, battery, and bec are from HobbyKing. The equipment on the plane is a Turnigy 3648-1450kv brushless motor, SS90/100A brushless esc, Turnigy 3300mAh 30c 4s1p LiPo battery, and a Turnigy 5a UBEC. You can find all these on HobbyKing online store.
propyropower most of our planes ore scratch built and our own designs. If you thought this was fast you should check out the latest video on my new SkyFighter v3 , it makes this one look slow.
DANG! That beast sure was moving the second day! Before it met its untimely demise of course. I was so excited to see the radar gun! HAHA! Oh well. I can't WAIT for the swing wing! I have always had a fascination with them for some reason. Just too cool. Good luck boss and sorry to see the Monster die! Take it easy.
SEBratt the plane was flying a lot faster the second day out after I got the motor timing right. I just wish I could have got one clean pass at the radar gun. I think it would have been good!!!
Thanks for tthe 5* Barb!! After that hit the Monster is pretty much toast,lol!!! But hey sometimes it happens. I'll have some video on how the new plane is coming along soon. It won't have that crazy power setup from the monster but should still be pretty fast.
vidsman77 I don't thing I lost a servo. I used Hitec HS-82MG servos on this plane which are very heavy duty they weigh about 20g each. After watching the video in slow motion I realized it was pilot error. As I approached the plane was nosing down so I pulled up but the plane rolled over and I lost orientation. Then I pulled up when the plane was inverted and low to the ground. It all just happened so fast.
Yeah youtwoba it was a bummer seeing it destroyed like that. Just wish I could have got one clean pass at the radar gun first,lol!! looked like it was moving pretty fast!
"Sorry for your loss," as they say at the city morgue. No amount of bracing or fiberglass weave will accommodate a crash of that rude and lewd magnitude, dude.
And don't forget to static test your motor for current draw on the bench next time! I do that for everything I think might draw anywhere near the motor max rating. Matching the prop to the max motor current is a vital step in making sure the plane doesn't burst into flame in midair, eh? Not that I've ever done that. [cough]
Dang SomeUselessGeek You are a poet and I didn't Know it!!!! As for static testing I usually test every set-up before flying with it. I did test this one with a smaller battery and esc with the 7x8 and a 7x9 prop and was still way under the 1600watt rating of the motor. I would have tested the new set-up but didn't have any adaptors to connect the watt meter up. I will test it soon, Just seems like all these batteries have different plugs.
Yeah, you can test that stuff statically on the bench by measuring the current and the battery voltage with two meters at the same time or by switching one meter to make both measurements. I use a 10 milliohm shunt that's rated at 50A to make my current measurements. My shunt could prolly do 200A in a pinch, but I'd rather go out and score a bigger shunt if it came down to that.
SomeUselessGeek we usually use a Wattsup meter which just plugs inline between the battery and esc. It gives you the volts, voltage drop, Amp draw, and watt draw all in real time as it happens. Then it scrolls through all of these giving you the maximum readings of each after you shut the motor down. I would have tested this setup with it but didn't have the adapters to plug it into the battery and esc I was using. I like the Wattsup meter because its completely hands free after you plug it in.
Thanks startazz. I think this power system has some real potential! Especially if I put it in a plane that has less restriction to the prop than the Monster had. I'll probably build something specifically for this set up next time.
daveyedgar "not winding up right " means the motor is not revving up correctly to its full potential. "changing the timing" has to do with the timing of the electronic pulses the esc puts out to turn the motor by creating magnetic pulses which push the magnets on the motor to make it turn. Changing the timing changes when these pulses occur which determines how well the motor runs. There is more but that's how it works in simple terms. If the timing isn't right the motor won't run correctly.
It's all a part of the hobby jacquesone100. Besides it gives me a reason to build a new plane. I would like to recommend setting your rates down low when you go to fly yours. That thing is going to be crazy fast and the control surfaces are over sized on this plane. One other thing the plane is a little squirrely on the landings without the rear stabilizers on it so be ready for it when it comes in to land. Can't wait to see it fly!!!
Dang Humphrey! Too bad about the crash. That was a cool plane. Hope the next one comes out better. But hey, It's been a while since the last destroyed plane. I think it was the original Banana plane, I mean the original bullet plane heh heh heh :) Anyway, nice video, keep up the good work bro's.
I think your right Mike. I haven't had that bad a crash since the original Bullet Plane. But oh well #$@^ happens at least most of the electronics survived.
Thanks insAneTunA!! If I can save the motor it will be going on something else. I don't think it will be my swing wing plane because I will have too much trouble getting the CG set up right. I will put it on something built for speed but it will be a little later.
Yeah Skydive4ever the plane definitely felt fast especially after I got the motor esc timing right. I wasn't even close to this motors rated watts I think I could have easily propped up and got some real speed out of it.
That thing looked fast! do you think you had control surface flutter? When it rolled it rolled so quick that I didn't think it was the wind. If it makes you feel better I plowed my .60 ultimate bipe in this weekend... it happens. I lost rx power and had to watch it crash as I had no control.
AnyAirRc sorry to here about your .60 ultimate bipe going down. my crash was completely pilot error. After watching the video in slow motion I realized I pulled up when the plane was inverted and that was what caused the crash. It just happened so fast at the time I didn't realize what I did.
Well bud Nice to see others get thouse Black cloud planes that just dont work out for them.. Sorry you had to have one but makes me feel better about the ones I get from time to time.
ajboomboom5 The crash was 100% pilot error. I lost orientation and pulled up when the plane was inverted. This time it wound up not being so pretty,lol!!!
Sorry RCFLIGHTHELP!! Tim at Herman Airport already staked a claim on this one otherwise it would be yours. I'm thinking the extra weight of this plane was just too much for it to hold up.
Thanks RCFLIGHTHELP!! Paul is working on the Jupiter as I write this. It's coming along pretty well!! That plane is going to bee crazy big and over powered rcFoamFighters style, lol!!!
I think the term is Wing-Loading. I am not sure, but its basically the load of the weight the wings taking , so when you have a lot of weight and small wings , the wing loading is high , and it normally makes the plane unstable or prone to tip stalls ..... I think.
RCFLIGHTHELP yes wing-loading is the correct term. This plane has a wing loading of about 15-16 ounces per square foot which is well below the 25 ounces recommended for fast planes. This might affect the plane at slower speeds but not when it is moving fast. The plane was flying fine I just made a mistake and it cost me the plane. It happens, more to some of us than others, lol!!!
sounds like the prop isnt thick enough cool video nice crash btw and also r u using another camera wooohooo im ur first veiwer five stars good video u guys are geting better and better
Congrats on being the first to post a comment!! We are still using the same camera but want to get a better one. I found out that the motor esc timing was off the first day out. I finally got the timing right the second day and the power came on!!! It's too bad I didn't have a chance to get a clean radar clock with the 7 x 8 prop on the plane before I crashed it. I think It would have beat my current speed record of 119mph!!
great plane!
johnstarnes 4 months ago
i have a question can you pls tell me what is the equipments for this coolestastic planes
yumekuimerry22 6 months ago
@yumekuimerry22 the motor, esc, battery, and bec are from HobbyKing. The equipment on the plane is a Turnigy 3648-1450kv brushless motor, SS90/100A brushless esc, Turnigy 3300mAh 30c 4s1p LiPo battery, and a Turnigy 5a UBEC. You can find all these on HobbyKing online store.
rcFoamFighters 6 months ago
damn, thats a fast plane,was it homemade ? its awesome
+5 from me ;)
propyropower 2 years ago 2
propyropower most of our planes ore scratch built and our own designs. If you thought this was fast you should check out the latest video on my new SkyFighter v3 , it makes this one look slow.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
alright, il do :)
propyropower 2 years ago
DANG! That beast sure was moving the second day! Before it met its untimely demise of course. I was so excited to see the radar gun! HAHA! Oh well. I can't WAIT for the swing wing! I have always had a fascination with them for some reason. Just too cool. Good luck boss and sorry to see the Monster die! Take it easy.
Sol
SEBratt 2 years ago
SEBratt the plane was flying a lot faster the second day out after I got the motor timing right. I just wish I could have got one clean pass at the radar gun. I think it would have been good!!!
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Ohhhhh!!!!... Your poooorrr Monster!!!.. That was a really hard hit.. =(
Can't wait to see your new plane!!..
I love watching you guys fly.. 5*
BarbA31 2 years ago
Thanks for tthe 5* Barb!! After that hit the Monster is pretty much toast,lol!!! But hey sometimes it happens. I'll have some video on how the new plane is coming along soon. It won't have that crazy power setup from the monster but should still be pretty fast.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
From my viewpoint it looked like you lost a servo before the crash?
vidsman77 2 years ago
vidsman77 I don't thing I lost a servo. I used Hitec HS-82MG servos on this plane which are very heavy duty they weigh about 20g each. After watching the video in slow motion I realized it was pilot error. As I approached the plane was nosing down so I pulled up but the plane rolled over and I lost orientation. Then I pulled up when the plane was inverted and low to the ground. It all just happened so fast.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Oh wow! good thing you fixed the battery! Soon you'll have to start making bullet-proof batteries :P or not crash lol 5*
GrahamCracker8 2 years ago
Thanks GrahamCracker8!! I think don't crash is the way to go. Now if I can just do it, lol!!!
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Yeah youtwoba it was a bummer seeing it destroyed like that. Just wish I could have got one clean pass at the radar gun first,lol!! looked like it was moving pretty fast!
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
ouch ooooh ahhhh, bummer dude!
youtwoba 2 years ago
"Sorry for your loss," as they say at the city morgue. No amount of bracing or fiberglass weave will accommodate a crash of that rude and lewd magnitude, dude.
And don't forget to static test your motor for current draw on the bench next time! I do that for everything I think might draw anywhere near the motor max rating. Matching the prop to the max motor current is a vital step in making sure the plane doesn't burst into flame in midair, eh? Not that I've ever done that. [cough]
SomeUselessGeek 2 years ago
Dang SomeUselessGeek You are a poet and I didn't Know it!!!! As for static testing I usually test every set-up before flying with it. I did test this one with a smaller battery and esc with the 7x8 and a 7x9 prop and was still way under the 1600watt rating of the motor. I would have tested the new set-up but didn't have any adaptors to connect the watt meter up. I will test it soon, Just seems like all these batteries have different plugs.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Yeah, you can test that stuff statically on the bench by measuring the current and the battery voltage with two meters at the same time or by switching one meter to make both measurements. I use a 10 milliohm shunt that's rated at 50A to make my current measurements. My shunt could prolly do 200A in a pinch, but I'd rather go out and score a bigger shunt if it came down to that.
SomeUselessGeek 2 years ago
SomeUselessGeek we usually use a Wattsup meter which just plugs inline between the battery and esc. It gives you the volts, voltage drop, Amp draw, and watt draw all in real time as it happens. Then it scrolls through all of these giving you the maximum readings of each after you shut the motor down. I would have tested this setup with it but didn't have the adapters to plug it into the battery and esc I was using. I like the Wattsup meter because its completely hands free after you plug it in.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Man i feel your pain as that was looking to be one hell of a fast Monster,well at least you have all the electrics to put into the new build ;-) 5*
startazz 2 years ago
Thanks startazz. I think this power system has some real potential! Especially if I put it in a plane that has less restriction to the prop than the Monster had. I'll probably build something specifically for this set up next time.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Nice vid! so tell me what you mean by "not winding up right" and changing the "timing"...
daveyedgar 2 years ago
daveyedgar "not winding up right " means the motor is not revving up correctly to its full potential. "changing the timing" has to do with the timing of the electronic pulses the esc puts out to turn the motor by creating magnetic pulses which push the magnets on the motor to make it turn. Changing the timing changes when these pulses occur which determines how well the motor runs. There is more but that's how it works in simple terms. If the timing isn't right the motor won't run correctly.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
awesome thanks for the reply, you wouldn't happen to know of any links online that goes into detail about tuning motors would you?
daveyedgar 2 years ago
Dave I'll send you a link cause I cant post it here.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Dave I tryed to send you the info but I was blocked be cause rcFoameFighters is not on your friends list. So check out "gobrushless" in the internet.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Oh dude!...u wrecked it!! :((( feel so bad ....Good luck on next build man!
Cheerz,
Jacques
jacquesone100 2 years ago
It's all a part of the hobby jacquesone100. Besides it gives me a reason to build a new plane. I would like to recommend setting your rates down low when you go to fly yours. That thing is going to be crazy fast and the control surfaces are over sized on this plane. One other thing the plane is a little squirrely on the landings without the rear stabilizers on it so be ready for it when it comes in to land. Can't wait to see it fly!!!
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Dang Humphrey! Too bad about the crash. That was a cool plane. Hope the next one comes out better. But hey, It's been a while since the last destroyed plane. I think it was the original Banana plane, I mean the original bullet plane heh heh heh :) Anyway, nice video, keep up the good work bro's.
mpetty0226 2 years ago
I think your right Mike. I haven't had that bad a crash since the original Bullet Plane. But oh well #$@^ happens at least most of the electronics survived.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Still an awesome job man !!!
I think that if you want to go for speed, then build it long and slick or a combination like you have planned, retractable wings would be awesome.
Greets from the Netherlands, iT
insAneTunA 2 years ago
Thanks insAneTunA!! If I can save the motor it will be going on something else. I don't think it will be my swing wing plane because I will have too much trouble getting the CG set up right. I will put it on something built for speed but it will be a little later.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Too bad about this one, it looked like it was going to be a fast one :-(
Skydive4ever 2 years ago
Yeah Skydive4ever the plane definitely felt fast especially after I got the motor esc timing right. I wasn't even close to this motors rated watts I think I could have easily propped up and got some real speed out of it.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
That thing looked fast! do you think you had control surface flutter? When it rolled it rolled so quick that I didn't think it was the wind. If it makes you feel better I plowed my .60 ultimate bipe in this weekend... it happens. I lost rx power and had to watch it crash as I had no control.
AnyAirRc 2 years ago
AnyAirRc sorry to here about your .60 ultimate bipe going down. my crash was completely pilot error. After watching the video in slow motion I realized I pulled up when the plane was inverted and that was what caused the crash. It just happened so fast at the time I didn't realize what I did.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Well bud Nice to see others get thouse Black cloud planes that just dont work out for them.. Sorry you had to have one but makes me feel better about the ones I get from time to time.
GET OUT and FLY!!
BruceM (BFOAMY) 5 stars on video
BMFoamy 2 years ago
BMFoamy it happens to all of us sooner or later if you build enough planes!! Just got to move on and keep on building,lol!!!
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
why didnt my plane fly >:( no fair
ajboomboom5 2 years ago
ajboomboom5 The crash was 100% pilot error. I lost orientation and pulled up when the plane was inverted. This time it wound up not being so pretty,lol!!!
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
yea it happens, and win it does its a big pain in the but lol
ajboomboom5 2 years ago
.... You broke an Epp plane ! ... I want the airframe !
RCFLIGHTHELP 2 years ago
Sorry RCFLIGHTHELP!! Tim at Herman Airport already staked a claim on this one otherwise it would be yours. I'm thinking the extra weight of this plane was just too much for it to hold up.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Haha , looked like for the small wing area there was alot of weight , Next destroyed airframe I get dibs ... haha
RCFLIGHTHELP 2 years ago
Awesome video , I can't wait for Jupiter !
RCFLIGHTHELP 2 years ago
Thanks RCFLIGHTHELP!! Paul is working on the Jupiter as I write this. It's coming along pretty well!! That plane is going to bee crazy big and over powered rcFoamFighters style, lol!!!
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
Shouldn't all planes should be big and overpowered !
RCFLIGHTHELP 2 years ago
Good point there RCFLIGHTHELP!! I like the way you are thinking.
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
I think the term is Wing-Loading. I am not sure, but its basically the load of the weight the wings taking , so when you have a lot of weight and small wings , the wing loading is high , and it normally makes the plane unstable or prone to tip stalls ..... I think.
RCFLIGHTHELP 2 years ago
RCFLIGHTHELP yes wing-loading is the correct term. This plane has a wing loading of about 15-16 ounces per square foot which is well below the 25 ounces recommended for fast planes. This might affect the plane at slower speeds but not when it is moving fast. The plane was flying fine I just made a mistake and it cost me the plane. It happens, more to some of us than others, lol!!!
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago
sounds like the prop isnt thick enough cool video nice crash btw and also r u using another camera wooohooo im ur first veiwer five stars good video u guys are geting better and better
synman95 2 years ago
Congrats on being the first to post a comment!! We are still using the same camera but want to get a better one. I found out that the motor esc timing was off the first day out. I finally got the timing right the second day and the power came on!!! It's too bad I didn't have a chance to get a clean radar clock with the 7 x 8 prop on the plane before I crashed it. I think It would have beat my current speed record of 119mph!!
rcFoamFighters 2 years ago