(3/16) "Touch Not God's Anointed!!!" [False prophet Brian Carn - Cindy Trimm]

[Alicenotinchains]

p.s. I'm in Maryland...if you're ever coming through...you & your family have a temp 'home' to drop by & fellowship...no hotel needed:)

[cuzhelvsmetif]

Wow, I do not even know how I got onto your page, but, I am going to pray for you, cause you have been deeply hurt and disappointed. You are out here naming names, and saying this and that about these people who have been ORDAINED with the mantle of GOD. You are tying together scriptures way out of context, and flasely clarifying them. you are wrong!!!! Everytime I tried to catch up on one thing you uttered incorrectly, you uttered another.

[EXlTCHURCHIANITY]

@cuzhelvsmetif

1. Don't waste your time praying for me, because I can tell by your comment(s) that your prayers barely hit the ceiling.

2. I'm not "hurt and disappointed." You are - because I called one of your favorite religious leaders a false prophet.

3. Jesus, the prophets, & apostles named names - so why wouldn't I?

4. People who teach false gospels, doctrines of demons, & financially exploit church folk aren't "ordained with the mantle of God."

[EXlTCHURCHIANITY]

5. I didn't take any Scriptures out of context, which is why you couldn't give ANY examples. Making an unfounded accusation & then running off without providing any evidence is ignorant & cowardly.

6. If I were TRULY "wrong!!!" in soooooo many areas, then it should have been as easy as pie for you to give ONE example, but you couldn't.

Your mind needs to be de-churched & renewed in the Word of Christ. But sadly, it appears that you're hostile to the truth.

[jspankin]

On what basis would you say Joyce Meyer is a false prophet? I have not found this to be true at all. smh I have never seen her "hostile nor paranoid' when someone questions her teaching.

[EXlTCHURCHIANITY]

1.

Joyce Meyer is a false prophet because she perverts [distorts] the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Galatians 1:6-9 says that anyone who does that is accursed.

In her 1991 booklet, "The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make" chapter 4 [titled: "What Should You Believe?"] page 35, Joyce taught a false gospel which says that Jesus paid for our sins IN HELL & became "born again."

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2.

She also taught that Jesus was "only a mere man" while He "paid for our sins in hell." Then in this same chapter, she had the nerve to say "There is no choice of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell."

In other words, she said that if you don't believe her false gospel "with all of your heart" you won't be saved.

[EXlTCHURCHIANITY]

3.

Now let's deal with the lies mixed in her false gospel.

First of all, Jesus & the apostles taught that the Lord paid for our sins on THE CROSS - period. He didn't pay for our sins in HELL. The lie that Jesus went to Hell to pay for our sins comes from a false prophet named E.W. Kenyon. He is the "godfather" of the word of faith/prosperity movement. He influenced Creflo Dollar, Kenneth Hagin, Joyce Meyers, & other prosperity-flavored leaders.

[EXlTCHURCHIANITY]

4.

The True Gospel of Jesus Christ teaches that Jesus paid for our sins on the Cross. And if anyone ADDS to or TAKES AWAY from the cross, they are teaching a false gospel & are accursed.

Second of all, Jesus was NOT "born-again" & did not NEED to be "born-again." Jesus is GOD in the flesh, & GOD doesn't need to be "born-again" - sinners do (see John 3). To imply that Jesus was born-again, is an underhanded attack on the SINLESSNESS of Jesus Christ.

[EXlTCHURCHIANITY]

5.

Joyce Meyers also attacked the Deity of Christ, by saying that "He was only a mere human when He paid for our sins in Hell." I already dealt with the lie that Jesus paid for our sins in Hell. But for Joyce to ADD to that lie by saying "He was only a mere human" is an even greater lie. Jesus is GOD in the flesh, & He never stopped being God at any point of His ministry.

1 John 4:1-3 says that anyone who denies that Jesus Christ [God] manifested in a real body is antichrist.

[jspankin]

@EXlTCHURCHIANITY Joyce Meyer is not a prophet. She is a teacher. MAYBE she is wrong in her doctrine on the Jesus going to Hell thing. I don't know where she (and many others got that from). I don't think anyone can fully understand salvation, eternity 100%. I can see why you would believe that Jesus would not need to be born again. But John the Baptizer also did not believe Jesus needed Baptism (of repentance). I think being born again is a metaphor for being filled with the holy spirit.

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@jspankin

#1) A person does not need to wear the title "prophet" in order to be considered a false prophet according to the BIBLE. #2) The BIBLE defines what a false prophet is - not you or anyone else. & #3) According to the BIBLE, Joyce Meyers is a false prophet. She claims to be SENT by God, to proclaim the Word of God - yet she teaches a false gospel, which attacks the SINLESS Divine nature of Jesus Christ. You seem not to think this is a big deal.

[EXlTCHURCHIANITY]

jspankin,

You said: "Joyce Meyer is not a prophet. She is a teacher."

You don't care about Galatians 1:6-9 which warns us about accursed teachers who bring false gospels?

Do you realize that when ppl believe a false gospel they will perish in their sins? How can you say that the leader who taught them that false gospel is a "true teacher"? Do you realize that when people say "thus saith the LORD" & proclaim lies that makes them a false prophet according to Deuteronomy 18?

[jspankin]

@EXlTCHURCHIANITY 2. Being born "AGAIN" can not apply to Jesus because he was filled with the Holy Spirit as a child. The person (Nicodemus) who Jesus was speaking to about being born again was not filled with the Spirit, so he had to be filled and that is what Jesus called being born again.

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@jspankin

I understand what it means to be "born from above" or "born anew." I also understand the sinless Divine nature of Jesus. So when I hear Joyce Meyers saying that 1) Jesus paid for our sins in HELL. 2) that He was "only a mere man" while in hell. & that 3) He was "born-again" - my false prophet detector goes off.

When Muslim leaders lie on Jesus, they're false prophets. But when Joyce Meyers lies on Jesus & promotes a false gospel, she's still a true teacher?

[jspankin]

@EXlTCHURCHIANITY Muslims are false prophets because they are not of Christ even though they claim to believe in an individual named Jesus who was born of virgin Mary. However in Islam Christ's TEACHINGS are subordinate to and abrogatable by Mohammed's. I believe Mohammed was satanically influence and the Qu'ran is demonic. Allah is not Jehovah of the Bible. Allah is an Arabian pagan deity given the attributes of God by Mohammed. JC and Mohammed did not preach the same message.

[jspankin]

@EXlTCHURCHIANITY I agree with you on the touch not my anointed point BUT accusing a "christian" as being a false prophet means they are influenced by a demonic entity. However if you falsely accused someone of being demonically influenced when they were in fact lead by the Holy Spirit then you are guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Which is an unforgivable sin. You can only truly know if a "christian" is false if you have a gift called the "discerning of spirits".

[EXlTCHURCHIANITY]

jspankin,

You said: "accusing a "christian" as being a false prophet means they are influenced by a demonic entity."

Indeed, anyone [including Joyce Meyers] who teaches ANOTHER "gospel" is influenced by a DEMON. You have to be under Satan's influence to say that 1) Jesus paid for our sins in HELL. 2) Jesus was merely a human 3) Jesus needed to be born-again.

The Bible doesn't say any of those things. She ADDED to the gospel, which makes her accursed according to Galatians 1.

[EXlTCHURCHIANITY]

jspankin,

You said: "You can only truly know if a "christian" is false if you have a gift called the "discerning of spirits."

No, the Bible doesn't say that. You're getting your ideas from somewhere other than Scripture.

I can also tell that you didn't listen to the entire video series, because I read a list of Scriptures that command Believers to discern between those who are true & those who are false. Discernment isn't OPTIONAL. It's imperative for ALL Believers.

[EXlTCHURCHIANITY]

jspankin,

“TEST [scrutinize, discern] all things, hold onto the good & avoid every kind of evil.” (1 Thessalonians 5:21-22)

“do not believe every spirit, but TEST the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” (1 John 4:1)

"Then [when Jesus comes] you will again DISCERN the difference between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not." (Malachi 3:18)

[SPIRITNDLIFE]

Blessings Evelyn! So they use the do not rebuke an elder harshly scripture I Timothy 5:1. Can you elaborate a little? I'm not sure if Paul said this because Timothy was so young...but what are your thoughts on this?

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@SPIRITNDLIFE

Hello there = ) "Rebuke not an elder" in the Greek means "Do not speak harshly [use abusive or disrespectful language] to an older man." It doesn't forbid us from correcting the older saints who are in error. It teaches that there is a respectful way to do it. And, that way is not through abusive language, but "as fathers and mothers," that is, with genuine concern and kindness, attempting to restore them.

[SPIRITNDLIFE]

@EXlTCHURCHIANITY You know I always wondered why they use to say this at the Church I used to go to. One day I thought to myself this doesn't make any sense! There were Prophets who rebuked people in the Bible I'm sure not all the people they rebuked were younger than they and likewise shared the same faith...I wonder of how can it be possible that you see unjustice in the Church and have to saty with your mouth closed because they were older...This makes sense thanks!

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@SPIRITNDLIFE

No problem!~ God bless you = )

[eveharris30]

These people clearly love these men more than Christ. They give them an excuse for sin. People love to be lied to.

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@eveharris30

So sad, but true. I've even seen Mary Mary applaud & encourage their fans for "defending" them online. All they have to do is sit back while their fans go into attack mode & bark at anyone who speaks against them.

[ChippiSweet]

YES! God used a donkey! A DONEY! How much MORE a regular human being to give WORD to ANYONE!

1 Corinthians 1:27

King James Version (KJV) 27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

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@ChippiSweet

Amen. I don't know where this mentality comes from that God doesn't/won't use Believers to speak out about corrupt leadership. Someone hasn't been reading their Bible.