Why are all you fucks wasting your time talking about this fuck hole of a president. He has ruined the country for ever and ever. It will be hard for any single president to fix all the problems he has done.
@PimpCoop You gotta be talking about G.W, right? That is, if you're talking about the deficit, endless wars, Wall St. abuse via business deregulation, acceptance of corporate rule, international distrust, lack of government transparency, tax-free wealth, right-wing Supreme Court activism, lack of cooperation between political parties, undermining of the UN,, etc.
If you're talking about Obama, you're not only drinking the Kool-aid, you seem to have your head stuck in the pitcher.
@altosame The way OBAMA is killing America I would rather have George Bush in office again over this guy. He has not done one good thing for the American people at all. All he does is find ways every day to screw people. Example where the hell did all the 700 billion go? Where are all the new jobs at. We still have some of the highest unemployment rates this country ever had. He has not done one right thing for this country. Also wants to pass communist in this country.
@altosame He never puts his hand over his heart when they sing the National anthem. He refuses to wear an American flag pin. He gives big corporations money they do not deserve. He spends more money then he has. He is also trying to pass all this bullshit about global warming crap and trying to make people get solar panels. Every program has had made from the Cash for clunkers to the Health care reform take money from hard working people and give it to people who do not deserve it.
@altosame He also appointed a ton of communist people in the office to work around him. He got so much money for his campaign when he was running for office. He had a good 30min segment during the World Series. How could he pay for that? You tell me how. Well for one people from other countries give him millions so that he could get into office. Therefor they would get privileges in this country. When the BP oil spill happened Obama knew they where not up to code.
@altosame They gave Obama millions for his campaign so he did not care about them not being up to code. Then When other countries tried to help out he said sorry you are not allowed to come in. We do not allow foreign ship into are waters. Even those they would help out and not do anything wrong he said sorry no can do. Well Bush allowed for foreign ships into are waters for help for some problems we had. I can keep on going, but I think I made my point. If you still are blind your just another
@altosame Left wing Demarcate who will not admit your party really fucked up and will not get a candidate elected into office for a vary vary long time!!!
@PimpCoop Wrong again. Obama is doing everything right. He's bringing back the type of federal government we had back in the 60s when the middle class was prosperous. It's amazing that President Obama is judged for his first year or two by the same failures that were ignored by the same critics during the 8 years of Bush. These failures -- namely the booming deficit and the recession (now said by ecnomists to be ended) -- were caused by Bush.
@altosame First off Bush did screw us. I did not like most of the stuff he did, but what your forgetting is that all the bad stuff Bush did he is doing twice as bad. He is spending money like crazy. Open your eyes and look at what he spent it on. You do not need a degree to see what he is doing. He is spending are money like we have so much of it. He is trying to spread communism through out America. Now it has been over 2 years now and you got to stop blaming Bush for this crap.
@PimpCoop What Obama does that the dimwitted call "socialism" is basically try to level the playing field away from the greatest economic disparity in this country since the days of the Carnegies and J.P. Morgan. This great disparity was caused by Republican policies....
Perhaps you would know better if you weren't one of the lower 50 percent of wage earners....
@altosame First off I am 21 so I do not think I am expected to earn a boat load of money. Second if your right (witch I feel your not) Then why should it be right for my tax dollars go to someone who wants to buy a new car from the Cash for Clunkers program??? Where did all the money go when Obama made the 700 BILLION DOLLAR Bailout Plan??? Why should we save big businesses when they spend there money frivolously???
@PimpCoop If you recall, Enron and the Wall Street debacle occurred under G.W.'s watch. G.W. began the bailouts -- distiling fear that if Wall Street wasn't bailed-out, the entire economy would collapse. True, Obama was criticized for buying into the auto industry. However,, as it turned out, GM made a profit. This turned out to be one of clearest examples over the past decade of an adminstratiive decision profitting the country.
@PimpCoop The fact that you're not in the top 50 percent of income earners is hardly surprising -- and likely has nothing to do with age. The truth is: As reported last week, only 5 percent of Americans fall into the top 50 percent of wage earners. This is the disparity I was talking about. With the middle class becoming poorer, such disparity also limits social mobility: So if you're not already in a wealthy family, then the likelihood is at an all time low is that you will ever be.
@PimpCoop Conservatives complain that the top 5 percent are dependent upon for 40 percent of all taxes paid. This causes them to be sympathetic with the wealthy. But their news media isn't telling them the whole story: If the top 5 percent account for the top 50 percent of wage earners, but pick up the tab for onlyy 40 percent of the taxes, then 10 percent of their income -- U.S.'s highest eages -- is unaccounted for. And if conservatives have their way, they would even have more of a tax break!
@altosame Why do you still not answer my question. Where did all the money go that he spent on these freakin Bills and programs. Why should I be paying for someone else. A big reason why the middle class can not earn more is because unemployment is so high. I have been looking for a new job now for a good 3 month with no luck. This is the highest it has been in America since the Great Depression. Regardless of who should or should not get taxes. I want to know why it is right for me to pay for
@PimpCoop to have to pay for someone else to get a car, buy a house, Get healthcare ect.. If you can not afford it in the beginning why should the government make you able to pay for it with the money I give them???
@PimpCoop I haven't been answering your question because it seems kind of general and vague. The unemployment problem began with Bush, and it has been up and down with Obama . As you probably know, taxes -- the thing you're asking why you should be paying them -- fund the nation. The reason why it's good to put money into the community is because people generally don't live in ivory towers, but in communities where their neighbors living in good homes and in good health is generally agreeable.
@altosame When I pay taxes I want them to be used to help are country. LIke fixing up the roads, Going to healthcare/medicare, helping the local school ect.. Now when you start to give the guy down the street some of the money I WORKED FOR he gets a sweet 5000 just for smashing his old car I feel that is wrong. That is what he basically did. He is spreading the wealth and like I said it is Communism. How would you feel if you made 1000 and I took 350 of it and gave it to your neighbor???
@PimpCoop So he could buy a car yet he does not make enough to pay for car payments. I would be pissed off. Second if Obama wanted to help the people he should be telling the pharmaceuticals and doctors to lower there prices on things. That way it would not cost people and companies that much to get coverage. Not make a healthcare reform. I mean there is over 500 pages yet no one know what is all inside. I also hope you like France since we will be like them in no time!
@PimpCoop I admit Cash for Clunkers wasn't one of the President's best pieces of legislation as it didn't specifically help the American automobile industry. This is why it only lasted two months. It didn't really harm the industry either. It hasn't been around for about a year now. Another factor was to get gas guzzlers off the road, a factor that's hard to calculate the success rate. Interestingly, it was Bush the first who first put a Cash for Clunker program into practice.
@PimpCoop As for heatlhcare, regulating pharmaceuticals would be a nice place to begin. Don't except a Republican administration to do it, though, as they believe in a hands-off approach to business. As for doctors, the government doesn't really want to tell them to lower their fees. It's the system that primarily results in overcharging. The only alternative Republicans offered during the healthcare debates was out of state options for insurers -- hardly the necessary change that was called for
@PimpCoop Basically it's the insurance industry that needed the most reform -- this is why the government stepped in. Unfortunately, the government option that I mentioned earlier, that would've lowered the cost of pharmeuticals by allowing the government to enter the competition, didn't pass -- as it was deemed "socialist" by sound-bite knee-jerk Republicans. But bigger factors of healthcare failures were accounted for. The biggest problem of the healthcare industry were the uninsured....
@PimpCoop There were good reasons for people to be uninsured. For one thing, people with preexisting conditions were denied insurance. As per the old insurance industry, a condition long undetected by a patient may be labeled a "pre-existing condition" and thus the patient would be denied by the insurer. With HMOS -- allowed into healthcare competition by the NIxon administration -- people who have insurance could be denied healthcare by a fickle business decision.
@PimpCoop Such business decisions could deny ermergency care to a person who paid for insurance. A person who paid for insurance could be droppeed by an HMO if the HMO deemed the medical care too costly. With the new reform, such unethical practices can no longer occur. Everybody will eventually have to have some form of insurance -- but without the unethical practices of the insurance industry. So basically instead of regulating doctors, the government went after the insurance industry.
@PimpCoop As for healthcare, and business in general, an economic "invisible hand" is supposed to guide competition and keep the field regulated. But the invisible hand gets pocketed once these companies mutually agree to inflate their prices. This seems to have happened with pharmaceuticals -- which is why Canadian meds are priced substanially lower than ours. With gov't entering into healthcare, government would then enter the competiton but outside the mutually agreed upon inflatied fees.
@altosame He will not work any more. Obama has taken over control completely and this is now his ship. When Bush left office the debit for America was at 8 Trillion dollars. Not good by any stretch of the imagination, but that was over 8 years. Obama has been in office now for a good two years and the debit is over 13 Trillion. He almost doubled it in less time then Bush. So like I said before either your just to blind to see the truth or just another dumb Demarcate!!!
@PimpCoop First of all, Bush left office 2 years ago. Bush basically followed Reaganomics, which relies on creating debt in the sense of borrowing now, so it trickles down later. Unfortunately, in a global economy, the money doesn't trickle down, but out. So, ask yourself: If everybody is getting tax-cuts, and the federal government depends on taxes, what else can the federal government do but borrow money? Bush began the tax-cuts. Obama is trying to do business as usual with limited means.!
This fawning treatment of Obama is disgusting, and the suggestion that George Bush is not a reader is wildly unfair (as is the suggestion that the number of books you've read is a measure of your intelligence).
How did David Samuels come up with the conclusion that Obama's father was a MONSTER. Did he beat his wife, was he a drunk, was he abusive, did he neglect Barack. NO. He was just an absent father. A man who married many times and fathered many children and that is all. So where did the idea that Baracks father was a monster come from? I read Dreams of my Father and at no time did I understand Baracks father to be a monster, but far from it. His father was good, but absent!
Why are all you fucks wasting your time talking about this fuck hole of a president. He has ruined the country for ever and ever. It will be hard for any single president to fix all the problems he has done.
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@PimpCoop You gotta be talking about G.W, right? That is, if you're talking about the deficit, endless wars, Wall St. abuse via business deregulation, acceptance of corporate rule, international distrust, lack of government transparency, tax-free wealth, right-wing Supreme Court activism, lack of cooperation between political parties, undermining of the UN,, etc.
If you're talking about Obama, you're not only drinking the Kool-aid, you seem to have your head stuck in the pitcher.
altosame 1 year ago
@altosame The way OBAMA is killing America I would rather have George Bush in office again over this guy. He has not done one good thing for the American people at all. All he does is find ways every day to screw people. Example where the hell did all the 700 billion go? Where are all the new jobs at. We still have some of the highest unemployment rates this country ever had. He has not done one right thing for this country. Also wants to pass communist in this country.
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@altosame He never puts his hand over his heart when they sing the National anthem. He refuses to wear an American flag pin. He gives big corporations money they do not deserve. He spends more money then he has. He is also trying to pass all this bullshit about global warming crap and trying to make people get solar panels. Every program has had made from the Cash for clunkers to the Health care reform take money from hard working people and give it to people who do not deserve it.
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@altosame He also appointed a ton of communist people in the office to work around him. He got so much money for his campaign when he was running for office. He had a good 30min segment during the World Series. How could he pay for that? You tell me how. Well for one people from other countries give him millions so that he could get into office. Therefor they would get privileges in this country. When the BP oil spill happened Obama knew they where not up to code.
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@altosame They gave Obama millions for his campaign so he did not care about them not being up to code. Then When other countries tried to help out he said sorry you are not allowed to come in. We do not allow foreign ship into are waters. Even those they would help out and not do anything wrong he said sorry no can do. Well Bush allowed for foreign ships into are waters for help for some problems we had. I can keep on going, but I think I made my point. If you still are blind your just another
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@altosame Left wing Demarcate who will not admit your party really fucked up and will not get a candidate elected into office for a vary vary long time!!!
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@PimpCoop Wrong again. Obama is doing everything right. He's bringing back the type of federal government we had back in the 60s when the middle class was prosperous. It's amazing that President Obama is judged for his first year or two by the same failures that were ignored by the same critics during the 8 years of Bush. These failures -- namely the booming deficit and the recession (now said by ecnomists to be ended) -- were caused by Bush.
altosame 1 year ago
@altosame First off Bush did screw us. I did not like most of the stuff he did, but what your forgetting is that all the bad stuff Bush did he is doing twice as bad. He is spending money like crazy. Open your eyes and look at what he spent it on. You do not need a degree to see what he is doing. He is spending are money like we have so much of it. He is trying to spread communism through out America. Now it has been over 2 years now and you got to stop blaming Bush for this crap.
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@PimpCoop What Obama does that the dimwitted call "socialism" is basically try to level the playing field away from the greatest economic disparity in this country since the days of the Carnegies and J.P. Morgan. This great disparity was caused by Republican policies....
Perhaps you would know better if you weren't one of the lower 50 percent of wage earners....
altosame 1 year ago
@altosame First off I am 21 so I do not think I am expected to earn a boat load of money. Second if your right (witch I feel your not) Then why should it be right for my tax dollars go to someone who wants to buy a new car from the Cash for Clunkers program??? Where did all the money go when Obama made the 700 BILLION DOLLAR Bailout Plan??? Why should we save big businesses when they spend there money frivolously???
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@PimpCoop If you recall, Enron and the Wall Street debacle occurred under G.W.'s watch. G.W. began the bailouts -- distiling fear that if Wall Street wasn't bailed-out, the entire economy would collapse. True, Obama was criticized for buying into the auto industry. However,, as it turned out, GM made a profit. This turned out to be one of clearest examples over the past decade of an adminstratiive decision profitting the country.
altosame 1 year ago
@PimpCoop The fact that you're not in the top 50 percent of income earners is hardly surprising -- and likely has nothing to do with age. The truth is: As reported last week, only 5 percent of Americans fall into the top 50 percent of wage earners. This is the disparity I was talking about. With the middle class becoming poorer, such disparity also limits social mobility: So if you're not already in a wealthy family, then the likelihood is at an all time low is that you will ever be.
altosame 1 year ago
@PimpCoop Conservatives complain that the top 5 percent are dependent upon for 40 percent of all taxes paid. This causes them to be sympathetic with the wealthy. But their news media isn't telling them the whole story: If the top 5 percent account for the top 50 percent of wage earners, but pick up the tab for onlyy 40 percent of the taxes, then 10 percent of their income -- U.S.'s highest eages -- is unaccounted for. And if conservatives have their way, they would even have more of a tax break!
altosame 1 year ago
@altosame Why do you still not answer my question. Where did all the money go that he spent on these freakin Bills and programs. Why should I be paying for someone else. A big reason why the middle class can not earn more is because unemployment is so high. I have been looking for a new job now for a good 3 month with no luck. This is the highest it has been in America since the Great Depression. Regardless of who should or should not get taxes. I want to know why it is right for me to pay for
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@PimpCoop to have to pay for someone else to get a car, buy a house, Get healthcare ect.. If you can not afford it in the beginning why should the government make you able to pay for it with the money I give them???
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@PimpCoop I haven't been answering your question because it seems kind of general and vague. The unemployment problem began with Bush, and it has been up and down with Obama . As you probably know, taxes -- the thing you're asking why you should be paying them -- fund the nation. The reason why it's good to put money into the community is because people generally don't live in ivory towers, but in communities where their neighbors living in good homes and in good health is generally agreeable.
altosame 1 year ago
@altosame When I pay taxes I want them to be used to help are country. LIke fixing up the roads, Going to healthcare/medicare, helping the local school ect.. Now when you start to give the guy down the street some of the money I WORKED FOR he gets a sweet 5000 just for smashing his old car I feel that is wrong. That is what he basically did. He is spreading the wealth and like I said it is Communism. How would you feel if you made 1000 and I took 350 of it and gave it to your neighbor???
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@PimpCoop So he could buy a car yet he does not make enough to pay for car payments. I would be pissed off. Second if Obama wanted to help the people he should be telling the pharmaceuticals and doctors to lower there prices on things. That way it would not cost people and companies that much to get coverage. Not make a healthcare reform. I mean there is over 500 pages yet no one know what is all inside. I also hope you like France since we will be like them in no time!
PimpCoop 1 year ago
@PimpCoop I admit Cash for Clunkers wasn't one of the President's best pieces of legislation as it didn't specifically help the American automobile industry. This is why it only lasted two months. It didn't really harm the industry either. It hasn't been around for about a year now. Another factor was to get gas guzzlers off the road, a factor that's hard to calculate the success rate. Interestingly, it was Bush the first who first put a Cash for Clunker program into practice.
altosame 1 year ago
@PimpCoop As for heatlhcare, regulating pharmaceuticals would be a nice place to begin. Don't except a Republican administration to do it, though, as they believe in a hands-off approach to business. As for doctors, the government doesn't really want to tell them to lower their fees. It's the system that primarily results in overcharging. The only alternative Republicans offered during the healthcare debates was out of state options for insurers -- hardly the necessary change that was called for
altosame 1 year ago
@PimpCoop Basically it's the insurance industry that needed the most reform -- this is why the government stepped in. Unfortunately, the government option that I mentioned earlier, that would've lowered the cost of pharmeuticals by allowing the government to enter the competition, didn't pass -- as it was deemed "socialist" by sound-bite knee-jerk Republicans. But bigger factors of healthcare failures were accounted for. The biggest problem of the healthcare industry were the uninsured....
altosame 1 year ago
@PimpCoop There were good reasons for people to be uninsured. For one thing, people with preexisting conditions were denied insurance. As per the old insurance industry, a condition long undetected by a patient may be labeled a "pre-existing condition" and thus the patient would be denied by the insurer. With HMOS -- allowed into healthcare competition by the NIxon administration -- people who have insurance could be denied healthcare by a fickle business decision.
altosame 1 year ago
@PimpCoop Such business decisions could deny ermergency care to a person who paid for insurance. A person who paid for insurance could be droppeed by an HMO if the HMO deemed the medical care too costly. With the new reform, such unethical practices can no longer occur. Everybody will eventually have to have some form of insurance -- but without the unethical practices of the insurance industry. So basically instead of regulating doctors, the government went after the insurance industry.
altosame 1 year ago
@PimpCoop As for healthcare, and business in general, an economic "invisible hand" is supposed to guide competition and keep the field regulated. But the invisible hand gets pocketed once these companies mutually agree to inflate their prices. This seems to have happened with pharmaceuticals -- which is why Canadian meds are priced substanially lower than ours. With gov't entering into healthcare, government would then enter the competiton but outside the mutually agreed upon inflatied fees.
altosame 1 year ago
@altosame He will not work any more. Obama has taken over control completely and this is now his ship. When Bush left office the debit for America was at 8 Trillion dollars. Not good by any stretch of the imagination, but that was over 8 years. Obama has been in office now for a good two years and the debit is over 13 Trillion. He almost doubled it in less time then Bush. So like I said before either your just to blind to see the truth or just another dumb Demarcate!!!
PimpCoop 1 year ago
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altosame 1 year ago
@PimpCoop First of all, Bush left office 2 years ago. Bush basically followed Reaganomics, which relies on creating debt in the sense of borrowing now, so it trickles down later. Unfortunately, in a global economy, the money doesn't trickle down, but out. So, ask yourself: If everybody is getting tax-cuts, and the federal government depends on taxes, what else can the federal government do but borrow money? Bush began the tax-cuts. Obama is trying to do business as usual with limited means.!
altosame 1 year ago
lol, funny, you forgot to mention Mein Kompf
bluepastry 1 year ago
This fawning treatment of Obama is disgusting, and the suggestion that George Bush is not a reader is wildly unfair (as is the suggestion that the number of books you've read is a measure of your intelligence).
rosie35173 1 year ago
How did David Samuels come up with the conclusion that Obama's father was a MONSTER. Did he beat his wife, was he a drunk, was he abusive, did he neglect Barack. NO. He was just an absent father. A man who married many times and fathered many children and that is all. So where did the idea that Baracks father was a monster come from? I read Dreams of my Father and at no time did I understand Baracks father to be a monster, but far from it. His father was good, but absent!
iLuvAkeys4ever 2 years ago
why do people ignore the fact that Obama is a Punahou boy? or do mainland people thing that is just some grass-hut school?
hoomelemele 2 years ago