Matt Chandler Teaching Song of Solomon

[GenMussolini]

Funny how you have to go to the kitchen to get women as well as food....

[ddfrisky]

0:23-0:30...L.O.L 

[ddfrisky]

I love this guy's humor!

[Aristox116]

@TangoDown93 what OfWrathAndGrace said

[turokkris]

@TangoDown93 I would say it's not necessarily wrong. But the question is, is it wise? Are you in a position to get married right now or soon? Great. Then start. If not, I wouldn't recommend it. If you date/court before you're ready for marriage then you're setting yourself up for temptation (sexually).

[Tatorox1]

@turokkris what of course is totally horrible and you will burn if hell,( for using your body in the way its ment to be used and EVOLVED for, of Course i mean sex)

[GodLovesUs100]

@TangoDown93 hows it going friend??

[OfWrathAndGrace]

@TangoDown93 I don't advise Christians to date before they are at a place in life where they are read to get married. Dating just for fun or companionship only sets you up for temptation. Beyond that, I reccomend courting over dating. Interested in a woman? Don't just date her. Prove to her parents that you are a godly man, worthy of their daughter's affection.

[DumasForever53]

i'm at uconn and i hear about so many relationship problems so i've adopted the idea of waiting. matt is right on, i do this so often! 

[livelaughs]

Bahaha, I go to a Christian university. This is spot on. Girls always looking, guys just sitting back waiting for God to drop a sandwich in their lap.

[StrumstickJoe]

He's not a bad stand-up. But he shouldn't talk to imaginary beings - that way lies madness!

[givethefiddleradram]

animals as leaders best song

[thruthseeker1974]

He is not half as sharp as John Piper. The reason is that he obviousely didn`t learn how to suffer (for his church) or more general for JEsus. That`s why he speaks more like an entertainer then a preacher that is calling people in or teaching the truth....

[SlyPirate]

@thruthseeker1974 I really hope you aren't basing that opinion off of this one video clip. Piper and Chandler are big supporters of one another, and if you would actually listen to some of Chandler's FULL sermons, you would know how devoted to scripture and the gospel he is. I hate when people make the decision that preachers and music have to sound a specific way. Like how everyone has this picture that God is an old man with a long white beard, looking like Charlton Heston.

[eaglepoint23]

In 1 Corinthians 7:7-9, Paul talks about this, and in verse 8 he actually expressly states that although marriage is ok, it is better to be single. Just something I thought I'd throw out there.. Cuz Matt Chandler is basically saying that we should all get married, and that being single, or what he sarcastically calls "the gift" (just fyi, Paul calls it a gift too), is something to be ridiculed. And idk about you, but I'm gonna listen to Paul (and the Bible) before I listen to Chandler.

[thnguyen24]

@eaglepoint23 you should read Genesis and listen to God first. Before sin entered the world, the only thing God declared to be "not good" in creation was for the man to be alone, and for that reason, God created marriage. I Corinthians 7, Paul seems the say the opposite, but he's not because all the Bible is God's breath. If you already read the topic sentence of the whole chapter, why don't you read the rest to see why Paul was saying that? You're twisting scripture here!

[eaglepoint23]

@thnguyen24 Your reply sounds like that of a person who knows what they want to believe and will look for anything they can to support that. You talk about the beginning, when Adam was the only human on earth and God saw that it would be good for him to not be alone anymore. God wanted Adam to have a companion to keep him company and to reproduce with, so he created a woman. Indeed, there is no other way the human race would grow, but somehow you say that because God didn't want Adam to be the

[eaglepoint23]

only person on earth that means that today, thousands of years after God solved Adam's problem, when we read what Paul said we are not to take it seriously. In 1 Corinthians 7:8, NLT, Paul says, and I quote, "So I say to those who aren't married and to widows- it's better to stay unmarried, just as I am. But if they can't control themselves, they should go ahead and marry. It is better to marry than to burn with lust." Paul, as I said earlier, says as plain as day that it is better for the

[SlyPirate]

@eaglepoint23 from God, but this was his opinion (v, 25). Paul clearly states that if you burn for passion for someone, it is better for you to marry to avoid sinning. And I would bet there aren't a lot of people out there who when they meet the right girl or guy who don't feel that passion. Some do, I admit, and like Paul said, it would be better for them to remain single so they can focus their attention on God alone. Verse 38 says that either way is good, but in his opinion

[SlyPirate]

@eaglepoint23 to refrain would be best. In other words, if you are not married, it's great because you can be fully devoted to God (how many actually do that), and if you desire it, in the name of God, get married and serve your spouse as God commanded. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be married. Because of our sinful nature, odds are that eventually we will succumb to the temptations of the flesh and sin.

[eaglepoint23]

Christian to be single, and you cannot try to deny that. It is written right there in scripture. And you are right about how the Bible, being God's word, cannot contradict itself. That means that the scripture in which God created a woman for Adam and created the concept of marriage is true. But apparently, while marriage is an option (Genesis) it is not the wisest option for the born again Christian (1 Corinthians). Perhaps next time YOU should read before accusing someone of twisting scripture

[SlyPirate]

@eaglepoint23 First off, check out 1 Timothy 4:1-3 and think again about having that stance against marriage. And in 1 Corinthians 7, if you keep reading, or actually, read verses 1-3, Paul does not denounce marriage at all. In Paul's case, he had a special calling from God, and for him to be married would take his focus away from that because he would have to tend to her physical and spiritual needs, as commanded by God. So for him, and he says plainly that he did not receive this command from

[eaglepoint23]

@SlyPirate Nothing you have said contradicts or disagrees with my expressly stated stance. I never said that being married is wrong, or that Christians shouldn't be married. What I did do was quote Paul for the purpose of proving that presenting singleness in a negative way is wrong, because that is exactly what Chandler is doing in this video. I know, and said, that both are acceptable, but that, if possible, singleness is better. So because emphasizing the importance of singleness is not the

[eaglepoint23]

@SlyPirate same as condemning marriage, I fail to see where you disagree with me...

[SlyPirate]

@eaglepoint23 Maybe something got lost in me reading your posts. I apologize. But I disagree with what you claim Chandler is saying. He's not presenting singleness as negative. He's calling out people who pretend to be content about where they are at. Like they are trying to trick God into sending them a mate, which is futile. God cannot be tricked. Also, he's calling out anyone who would say that wanting to be married is wrong. He does acknowledge that some will not get married...

[SlyPirate]

@eaglepoint23 .......but takes issue with it being called a gift, which I do as well, because in his example, if someone desires to be married, I don't see why they would consider it a "gift", and I don't think Paul uses that terminology at all. I would see it as an opportunity to not be wasted, being single and able to serve without distraction. But for someone who desires message, they won't see it as a gift. It's all terminology anyways. People get too wrapped up in it sometimes.

[SlyPirate]

@eaglepoint23 Sorry. Desires marriage. Ha ha

[JesseHudgens]

"There's been a mistake...I burn with passion" - LOL

[Ecdysiast96]

would Jesus tap that?

[guerillacropolis]

Hey, Christians! Don't wait. Trust me, it's not worth it. Victim of Catholicism giving it to you straight here.

[CleverScreenNameHere]

He has a podcast on iTunes that has his full sermons. Just search 'The Village Church'!

[menyazovutyackie]

funny clip. but i want to hear the whole sermon. Can someone please tell me what sermon title this was? Or where I can find it?

[queenofsheba1000]

i like him he's cute

[caseydavis1221]

He's also married with 3 kiddos.

[queenofsheba1000]

really, he looks so  young to me.

[StLukey7]

Tommy Nelson says at 0:53 the book has been cencsored by the church. In point of fact it is the literalist view that he teaches that is afraid to talk about this matter openly. No doubt about this.

Can anyone name a Christian anywhere that believed this book was a romanitc story as people teach it today? no, this literalview is made up and popularized by the mormons to justify polygamy and immoratliy...if that is not true, name 1 person who believed like tommy did prior to 1961

nobody

[apruitt2008]

StLukey7, there's a man named CJ Mahaney who wrote a book about sex and marriage....honestly I can't remember the name, but in like the first 10-15 pages, he explains why SoS is definitely a romantic book. It may help you see some of the points. And just for the record, when I read SoS, I had no idea what it was going to be about when I opened it. Then I figured it out, and I wasn't influenced by anyone else's opinion beforehand.

[StLukey7]

you need to pay attention....my post above says .."who believes in a literal view before 1961 as tommy nelson teaches today...you nor anyne could not give me a name,,,,expect maybe david koresh...when he was held up at the compound he asked to have his sermons recorded....do you want to know the very first verse to comeo out of his mouth? you got it...the SOS!!! chapter 7

try agian, and read it as the church has for 2000 years....and not the the contemporary way...its false

[lucasdasilvamaria]

the dinner stuff is so true

[diaspora777]

JesusisPerfect- Thanks for not wanting to water-down truth. But there's a difference between watering it down and breaking it up so that it can be taught. I mean, we're not typing in greek here are we? Maybe english is too "watered-down." But seriously "heresy?!!" How about "error". Everybody on youtube "claiming" christ and "truth" is so "heretic trigger happy". How's about some John 17 attitude ya'll. Can we be a bit more gracious to our christian brothers and sisters.(Eph. 4:15)

[JesusisPerfect]

diaspora777: Thanksforyour response. My concern isthat Mr. Chandleris teaching something(to seek a wife) at variancewith Scripture(the def. of heresy). Trust me,I love unity and love(Jn.17). But can you truly divorce this from truth? I think the Scripture warns more about lack of truth than lack of unityas alast days danger. Have I now become your enemy(or the Church's) by telling you the truth?btw unity involves not "tossed bythe waves and blown around by every wind of teaching"Eph4:11-16 :)

[JesusisPerfect]

comparing marriage with dinner is irrational.

[tigrphan03]

He never compared marriage with dinner.

He compared pursuing dinner to pursuing women.

His point was that SOME men sit around waiting for a woman instead of doing what they are supposed to do...and that is to pursue.

[JesusisPerfect]

"He never compared marriage with dinner.

He compared pursuing dinner to pursuing women."

That too is irrational. First off, I hope you mean A woman and not women. Of course, if you think women are like dinner than I can see the confusion. Secondly the goal of both "pursuits", as you say, (though I cant say I've ever pursued dinner) is as I originally stated. If you listen to the context it is clear that he is talking about marriage(37-45 sec).

Peace. God bless as you pursue HIM above all.

[innercitybigdog]

Come on, man...all you got out of this is "marriage is like dinner?" The point is that God did not intend us to sit on our hands while He drops our spouse (or anything else) on us. He intended us to pursue a spouse, in a way that is rooted in Scripture and prayer. You're so wrapped up in semantics that you've missed the entire point of his analogy.

[JesusisPerfect]

Sorry, you must have missed my main two points: 1. comparing marriage with dinner is irrational.

2. Seek God above all. I try not to sugar-coat or water down truth as much as I possibly can. For that,and other reasons, i don't expect to be popular. "He intended us to pursue a spouse.." Really?Da definitive text for Christianmarriage is 1Cor 7. It starts with: "Now concerning the things about which you wrote, it is good for a man not to touch a woman."and also contains things like...

[KyleLindsey89]

Now concerning the things about which you wrote" -- Paul is addressing specific concerns raised by the Corinthian church at that time. He's not trying to give a complete theology of marriage, but providing relevant advise within the circumstances.

You also have overlooked a very important word that follows vs 1/ch 7 -- BUT. Paul agreed with the concerns about rampant sexual immorality, but goes on to point out that healthy sexual relations within marriage buffer such corrosive immorality.

[JesusisPerfect]

...cont...

"Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be released. Are you released from a wife? Do not seek a wife." It's a shame that modern "Christians" are teaching the opposite of Scripture in the name of "Christianity". People should be able to find truthful sermons w/o all the heresy. Of course, the Bible warned of all this.

God bless.

[innercitybigdog]

Yet you miss the point of what Paul is saying, and ignore verses 8 and 9: "To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single as I am. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion." Marriage was given to us by God as a symbol of His relationship with the church, not as some sort of evil temptation. Again, you are so wrapped up in semantics that you have completely missed the point of the Scriptures.

[JesusisPerfect]

The scriptures teach:

Singleness>Marriage>Divorce(Mt­. 5:32)

Even the Scripture you used supports this. I say this for ur own benefit, not to lay any restraint upon you.(vs 35). I have used Scripture to verify what I say is true. Am I in error? If so, quit accusing me of being "wrapped up in semantics" and show me WITH Scripture how I error.

[KyleLindsey89]

Could you please elaborate on how you interpret Matthew 5:32?

[lucasdasilvamaria]

no. you are food and you will be eated. there's nothingwrong in that since Jesus said EAT MY FLESH. Its a pretty good comparison

[PaladinMark]

you don't do that for dinner ? - lol j/k

[aflores0825]

If you want to hear more from Matt Chandler, look him up on the Apple Podcast "The Village Church - Sermon Audio"

[lmstrs]

Can we at least get the title of the sermon?

[mumpty]

Google `Matt Chandler Village Church Denton Texas` and jump on his podcast. Been going through his stuff - 100% brilliant!

[WinterBees]

Hey, me too! Where can I find the rest of this sermon?!!?!?!?! I would really like to hear this!

[mumpty]

Google `Matt Chandler Village Church Denton Texas` and jump on his podcast. Been going through his stuff - 100% brilliant!

[lexban]

Yeah....any idea where I can find the rest of THIS sermon?

...pretty sure this isn't from any of his sermons at The Village.

Thanks anyway though...

pee ess, you kids should check out his series entitled The Cross...as well as Heart Matters...heck just check out all of his sermons. His series on Sex is really good...as well as his series on Rhythm, Family Traits, Hebrews and Ecclesiastes...yeah, just check out The Villages website. I love Josh, Paul and Afshin too...baller followers of Christ

[greatsnowmonkey]

ReadPsalms1: What nature are you referring to exactly when you say "Stand-up comedy is of a different nature."?

[ReadPsalms1]

read what senk3i wrote...

Stand-up comedy is not serious business most of the time.

Like I mentioned, comedy can be used by the enemy to curb boundries. This is a general statement. I did see another video of this gentleman speaking of the things of the Lord and observed his zeal.

One example of comedy I will give. Do you remember the sitcom 3sCompany? Remember the plot? Now observe our media pushing homosexuallity through the airwaves. What many thought was funny then are reaping woes.

[ReadPsalms1]

The Bible and things of the Lord are a serious business. Stand-up comedy is of a different nature. Look up "laugh/laighing" in the Bible and see what God laughs at.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge...

Comedy can be used by the enemy as a "prybar" to curb the hedges of modesty and godliness and the view of sin.

Watch out what you laugh at!

Help us Lord!

[pulleyjay]

Be careful with statements like yours. You are bordering in, if not living in, legalism.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being comedic inside of the gospel as long as you are not making the gospel itself comedic. I am a member of Matt's church and I assure you, there is not part of him that takes sin or "the things that God laughs at" as a joke. Please research before making implications.

[goldcakez]

Some proverbs that might be relevant:

P12:25: Anxiety weighs down the human heart, but a good word cheers it up

There is a lot of gloom:

P14:13: Even in laughter the heart is sad, and the end of joy is grief

and P 14:15: The simple believe everything, but the clever consider their steps (ie:caution)

P14:24:the crown of the wise is their wisdom, but folly is the garland of fools

But this seems nice:

P16:21:The wise of heart is called perceptive, and pleasant speech increases persuasiveness

[goldcakez]

P17:22:'A cheerful heart is good medicine, but a downcast spirit dries up the bones.'

Hmm, there is a lot of proverbs on both sides of the fence.

I think you are right to be urging caution. I know a lot of pastors these days seem to have this 'need' to be comedians... and I have seen it fail and lead to awkwardness and clumsy/embarassing church services. (Or am I the only guy in the congregation who feels this way... O_o... feels like I am sometimes)

[bigphade]

you can get all his sermons for free at his church website..

type the village church in google..

[lenkubeacon]

i would love to know that too:)

[lexban]

Does any one know where and if I can get the rest of this sermon?...

I kinda love this man to death...and I'm sure I'm not alone.

Any help?

[senk3i]

What a rocking comedic-pastor preacher :>