Large Hadron Collider Sabotaged by Boson?

[RyuDarragh]

Oh, for those reading this and wondering, the scientists at CERN have said, in effect, they've narrowed the range of energies using the ATLAS sensor module to about 136GEV where there are "many events" to study. They may not yet have found the Higgs Boson, but they now know where it *isn't*.

[beni91zg]

African people are hungry, fuck Higs motherfuckers

[najoba]

1=0. thats the formula of everything.

[JPVegh]

What a huge waste of time and resources.

[samten54]

I always love it when god shits himself. Well actually god never shits himself but the people who believe he exists do.

[GateMessenger]

That's a lot of money to spend on something that potentially will never work.

[MrCati]

I accept the LHC interference from the future, but I believe that someone from the future came back in time to the present and is from the present altering and affecting the experiment by means of physic ability. A remote viewer type with the ability to influence or to move matter. What puzzles me if we found it and did blow up the future, I question how can they come back in time from such a disaster? Hmmm. Time travel talk is so interesting. Maybe it is a time portal.

[FALCO64125]

Something is created, let's call it, Higgy. Higgy hates itself so it goes back in time to prevent itself from being born. Higgy succeeds, Higgy is never born, therefore Higgy never goes back in time to stop itself from being born.... what?

[DrErkencho]

@FALCO64125

Well, crazy as it sounds, we have a perception of time -known as the time arrow- that makes it easy for us to see it flowing forward "all the time", thought this is more of an illusion than anything else, one can run back in time instead of forward and one can even loop time into a closed curve. Particles HAVE now been send back in time a milliard of a sec. So is it posible for things to "exist" and then sease to exist by "killing their grandfathers", the answer is yes.

[RyuDarragh]

Just because someone is a scientist doesn't mean they can't be either bat sh|t crazy or full of three kinds of bullsh|t. After all, just having a Doctorate means you learned a lot of crap, not that you have gained the genius to use it in pursuit of Nobel Prize winning science :P

[alanstarkie2001]

@RyuDarragh I agree but I had to laugh the other day while listening to the radio, when I heard that a bird dropped a baguette into the LHC gubbins causing it to shut down!

[RyuDarragh]

@alanstarkie2001: Gubbins?

[alanstarkie2001]

@RyuDarragh Ah - American. Gubbins - noun - miscellaneous unspecified objects. Similar to the use of 'gizmo'. The baguette was dropped into the gubbins of the LHC. Which part exactly - I don't know. The Prof may still be onto something.

[RyuDarragh]

@alanstarkie2001: Ah, new word for me :) We'd say "works", as in clockworks, or "innards" or "guts". I love this language :P

[TheRobster94]

@alanstarkie2001 how did a bird shit on a multi-billion dollar physics experiment that just so happens to be under 100 meters under the ground?

[1sexualninja1]

@RyuDarragh Youtube doesn't have a word filter. You should rewrite your comment...

[RyuDarragh]

@1sexualninja1: I could reword it in many ways, but a sows ear is still a female pigs hearing organ. Or, as the old phrase has it, calling a spade a spade. My year old comment may be vulgar and rude, but it's not "obscene".

[Dejavu12321]

The collider won't be a problem according to those who miscalculated it's first run.

Key to life = Jesus Christ/ God the son, not mans limited accomplishments.

[RyuDarragh]

@Dejavu12321: Ah, yes. Mans accomplishments. When I want a car, I can either PAY or PRAY for one. Which is more likely to get me a car?

[enemymouse]

haha that's some funny bs right there. april fools

[wilatemodel]

well,.....it's feb 3rd...........does it work?

[alanstarkie2001]

It all seems pretty quiet. We'll know if they manage to find the Higgs particle and I'm sure they would have made an announcement if they did!

[ryankffx]

@alanstarkie2001 i wouldnt be so sure about that,

its a potential weapon, so im pretty sure the public shall be kept on a need to know basis

[MrFatAmericanGuy]

not sure if you guys know it but its already been turned on... didnt fail, didnt create a black hole and will continue more testing in Feb

[alanstarkie2001]

It hasn't detected a Higgs particle yet though, so the professor still might be right!

[Dzwitch]

As far as I understand and infer in a hypothetical way from the background of the arguments exposed here, a black asshole that's hidden in a black tunnel is gonna eat all of us, is that right?

[MsSeptimus]

I love this hypothesis, it's so awe-inspiring to think that he may just have something. I don't really understand the theory around it (other than the simplified snippets of information that they give you on the news), but I am nevertheless very interested.

[alanstarkie2001]

I did manage to download the full paper referred to in the news item. You need a decent understanding of maths to make sense of it though. Logically it seems to make some sense.

[MsSeptimus]

My maths is actually pretty shaky (I was always more of an arts and languages person). I do, however, have a huge amateur interest in this sort of thing, with most of my knowledge gleaned from populist sources such as 'A Brief History of Time' and so on.

[MsSeptimus]

Ok, I've attempted the paper but that sort of maths goes way over my head!

Hey, at least I tried.

[ProudToBLoud]

Oh you work for D, that is a good company, no need for me to say that it sucks then.

[alanstarkie2001]

Yes, better than most :-)

[ProudToBLoud]

Hi alan

I am asking you this honestly not as a challenge but for your opinion, don't you think this collider has been a huge waste of money or do you think that there will be some benefit to come from it, not asking as a challenge btw.

[alanstarkie2001]

As a service engineer, I couldn't resist joking with you. A waste of money? If you are not interested in the research, yes. However, the money has been injected into thousands of jobs in construction and academia. The confirmation (or not) of the Higgs particle would change the entire foundation of physics - and that impacts everybody. To answer your question, yes - I think €4.6Bn well spent. The dome cost us nearly £1Bn, that was a waste money for a tent!

[ProudToBLoud]

I dont mind you joking I am not that touchy

ok thanks for your answer.

[alanstarkie2001]

I work for the guy who's vacs never lose suction! Better not mention the name eh?

[ProudToBLoud]

My washing machine Broke down, I had it repaired and it ran again then it broke down, I do not think it is clapped out, i think it is being sabotaged by the future.

[alanstarkie2001]

Hmmm, you might have a point, if your washer develops a fault that potentially allows it to generate a Higgs particle, and if that particle is so abhorrent to nature, its creation might ripple back through time and influence you not to use Calgon (when you know you should have but just couldn't be bothered). If you did use Calgon, the belt would break or you would end-up with a brainless engineer. Failing all that, you'll end up using Bold 2-In-1 and you would be swallowed by a black hole!

[doublemm22]

hmm... might destroy the world.

only one man can help us now. The Termanator.

[michaelaspace]

well iv asked the aliens to stop it .

[spanish111japan]

I don't understand this at all , its very weird!

[666steff666]

nassim harramein

[PoisonedAntidote]

hmm, this all sounds very fictional to me.

if the machine is sabotaged by something then it will not work and thus will never need to be sabotaged in the first place.

[alanstarkie2001]

The only thing that can lead to rejection of the Nielsen hypothesis, is if the LHC works and the Higgs Boson is confirmed. What you are saying supports the hypothesis. The research is serious and not at all fictional.

[alanstarkie2001]

The predictions by Nielsen et al were made a year before the LHC was started and shut down, so far the theory holds true. Link to the paper in the description.

[ToppervisionEnt]

I had to chuckle a few times here, I think I was supposed to? However these gung ho blackhole weilding yahoos get the plug pulled is fine by me. I think they really are playing with this waaaaay ahead of it's time. I only hope the explosion they cause stays contained to a small geographic area, which it won't.

[alanstarkie2001]

The professor guy is deadly serious although some might not take him very seriously! He wrote a scientific math based paper on this stuff. I'm sure any explosions will be small enough to fit on a pin head and if it goes wrong you'll never notice. Blackhole wielding yahoos - I love it!

[gadzometer]

And a very interesting video Alan.

[Ja0mann]

Interesting theory, if something is trying to slow down or prevent this partials creation would that not suggest the universe itself is sentient?

lets see how this pans out. It could be just a way of keeping the public interested in this elaborate, and costly, experiment.

[gadzometer]

Though I am not sure about the idea that the universe is sabotaging the equipment, I do feel that the universe is alive if not sentient.

A cell is alive, a collection of cells make a live animal or plant (which is sentient in it's own right).

A collection of plants and animals may mean that the earth is alive, maybe humans are the brain cells.

A collection of "live" planets may mean that a galaxy is alive.

A collection of "live" galaxies may mean the universe is alive.

Just a thought.

[gadzometer]

And the latest images showing our know universe sure looks like a human brain if you take everything away except for the neuron pathways.

[alanstarkie2001]

I don't quite follow the logic though. The universe abhors Higgs bosons - OK. The LHC may discover them if they exist - OK. It isn't as if the LHC is bringing them into existence when they didn't exist before (or is it)? I've not seen the equations so I can't quite get my head around this theory.

[gadzometer]

The way I see it is that there are two trains of thought.

1) Everything exists and we are finding it

2) If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Or we are co-creators of our reality.

There are some experiments that lean towards the second one. And if this is the case, then is there a universal consciousness that we are co-creating with?

It is one of those grey areas where philosophy meets science. And it has me stumped.