Really? That was pretty bad. I've only seen two guys wrap on Youtube. I jump, but never CReW. This vid is another reason for me not to want to. Chopping (potentially) costs too much.
@neomuttley Yep. I have done crw twice and was very uncomfortable with it both times. I can live without it LOL... The guy you see through most of the video landing his reserve is a rigger. Matter of fact he is MY rigger. So at least these things come cheap for him.
I'll have to try & remember this exit for next time. I've only done three H&Ps. I've flipped on two, & almost did one the third too. So, you hop up a bit on exit ala rear float?
@neomuttley Well not so much hopping up but hopping out sideways, facing the wind blast. Stay facing the wind blast, the same direction the airplane is going. Have your left hand at your forehead and your right hand on your pud ready to throw....
You might want to try a couple practice exits where you don't really pull but just put your hand there a couple times and see if you stay stable... Once you have that down you can actually pull. Safer that way. We used to call them Practice Pulls.
Thanks. Unfortunately, the new DZ I just switched to doesn't like to have hop & pops. Some of the neighbors complain about the engine noise. Hey, the jump plane's engine makes 900HP. It's gonna make some noise. Wonder if those neighbors would like to pay the taxes of the DZ if it went away??? I've been told that the thicker air @lower altitudes is what was flipping me. Well, that, & I'm too new :-P...
@TheDouchesupreme Fraaaaaaaaaaank is my rigger :) I think I'm going to start calling him Fraaaaaaaaank! I like that... :) Yes it turned out well and I'm glad too. He was pretty beat up from it though. Lots of line burns all over his arms and legs. He did a great job of keeping his cool and saving his life. Lucky he had the altitude to do it with.
@mobiltec Ya you bet. Altitude was needed to deal with that mess. He's my rigger now and I think I'll start calling him FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK too. LOL... You should have seen him that night. He was all beat up black and blue with line burns everywhere. Nothing broken though. He lived and walked away.
@angelmanuelvilar This is s CRW team. They are used to being very close to each other. Besides the cam has a differn't lens that makes things look closer than they are.
Thankyou for noticing that. A lot of others have critisized him for being too close. But what they don't understand is that the camera has a different lens on it because he normally shoots video from farther away than normal so it makes it look as though he is way too close for comfort when in reality he is much further away than it looks.
i hear you dude .. i do same thing but underwater .. glad that you share same understanding .. stay stay in air, water, on land and on youtube .. gloobb globbb LOL
One thing I should clue you in on is that the photographer was born into the sport and is a second generation skydiver. His father is a skydiver too. He is a very experienced canopy pilot. He got the same comments from most all of his peers quite a long time ago. Frank, the wrappee, is a rigger and I believe that is the only thing that saved him as he knew exactly what was wrong and what needed to be done to correct it. This video exists to help train others in case of a similar situation.
in equal measure and is a truly valuable tool for CREW dogs...(I have just done my CRW 1 so Im not one yet!)
but I have to agree with the other comments (from skydivers only hopefully) about the camera guy getting way too close to the canopy in such a serious situation. (eg /not much alti and on his reserve)
Hey I was recovering from surgery when I responded to you. I'm surprised that was all I screwed up..
I have been in a flat spin while in freefall and came darn close to passing out. It only took about 4 revolutions for me to feel the effects. Jumpers have passed out from spinning like you saw here before. If that would have happened he wouldn't have been able to clear his feet from the lines. You sound like you are a jumper as well.
Right, that's my point. It would've already happened while he was spinning. Perhaps it's just timing in the video. The passing out is brought up while he is flying straight.
Yeah, I jump too. Do you know if his reserve handle was still in place? Was it pulled upon separation from the other jumper?
"Was it pulled upon separation from the other jumper?"
The reserve handle was still in place and the closing loop was intact. No one knows how the pin got displaced.
The timing is a little off from the video to audio. They are different tracts and I had a tough time mixing them. I don't have professional equipment or software. But he was pretty dazed from the spinning after he stopped.
Ah...I see. But for clarity. Blood never actually 'leaves' your brain. There's just not enough pressure for new oxygenated blood to get up there as fast as it's needed. Also, if this were to happen he would've been blacked out during the spin. Once blood G's have subsided and blood pressure is restored people come back quickly. Look at some videos of pilots, and they're experiencing many more G's than we are.
Holy Shit Batman...Frank Frank Frank...I am so glad you are ok I am still in the hospital recoverying from my accident and when I saw this I was so tripped out by it. I knew you had skills my friend but I had no Idea you had some serious skills along with some luck. It made me realize seeing this video that its been way to long since we have talked. I miss you and I am so glad you are ok!!! love ya...
great video and narative on the event, I'll be doing a CReW camp in a few week and shows the other side of thing that can go wrong but also shows that working the issue and comunication it can still have a good out come. thanks for the share.
Man I've watched this a few times, and I know he's going to make it but my heart just pounds like crazy literally. I'm sure that is no time for panic for the jumper. Every second is precious. My gosh I wonder if he tells his loved ones about it. Man this gives me chills.
"Every second is precious. My gosh I wonder if he tells his loved ones about it."
In skydiving, yes... Every second is precious. Things happen quickly in this sport.
He is a second generation skydiver. He is a master rigger and very knowledgable about the equipment and the sport. His son skydives as well and is 3rd generation. So yes, his family knows all about how dangerous this can be. The hairiest part was when his reserve deployed too soon. That is what made it dangerous.
Wow!! That was a heart stopper! We never got into CRW. I guess it came after I got out of it. The consequences of one little mistake can obviously be catastrophic. He was damned lucky.
I see a whole lot of skill and knowlege involved in his escape from the line entanglement. I talked to him today and he said he would rather be lucky than skilled any day! LOL! He was obviously both.
There's definitely a *lot* of skill involved, as well as a *very* cool head in the face of a panic situation. He was the only one who could get himself out of it, and he kept his head and took it one step at a time. And yeah, he was some of both. I don't guess it matters what you call it, as long as you land with all of your parts intact. :-)
You forgot to thank the black canopy guy for taking the entire formation out... :-P
neomuttley 1 week ago
@neomuttley Just about everyone involved in CRW has done that. It was just his turn.
mobiltec 1 week ago
@mobiltec,
Really? That was pretty bad. I've only seen two guys wrap on Youtube. I jump, but never CReW. This vid is another reason for me not to want to. Chopping (potentially) costs too much.
neomuttley 1 week ago
@neomuttley Yep. I have done crw twice and was very uncomfortable with it both times. I can live without it LOL... The guy you see through most of the video landing his reserve is a rigger. Matter of fact he is MY rigger. So at least these things come cheap for him.
mobiltec 1 week ago
Thank goodness you landed safely. Another safe CReW Dog! Hoorah!
bu3butler1 3 months ago
I'll have to try & remember this exit for next time. I've only done three H&Ps. I've flipped on two, & almost did one the third too. So, you hop up a bit on exit ala rear float?
neomuttley 8 months ago
@neomuttley Well not so much hopping up but hopping out sideways, facing the wind blast. Stay facing the wind blast, the same direction the airplane is going. Have your left hand at your forehead and your right hand on your pud ready to throw....
You might want to try a couple practice exits where you don't really pull but just put your hand there a couple times and see if you stay stable... Once you have that down you can actually pull. Safer that way. We used to call them Practice Pulls.
mobiltec 8 months ago
@mobiltec,
Thanks. Unfortunately, the new DZ I just switched to doesn't like to have hop & pops. Some of the neighbors complain about the engine noise. Hey, the jump plane's engine makes 900HP. It's gonna make some noise. Wonder if those neighbors would like to pay the taxes of the DZ if it went away??? I've been told that the thicker air @lower altitudes is what was flipping me. Well, that, & I'm too new :-P...
neomuttley 8 months ago
@neomuttley Just be last out and do it from altitude. More time to practice...
mobiltec 8 months ago
Oke like 3 videos ago I was all like crw seems awsome - might try it some time - now - Im cured.... JC man JC....
stevenliemberg 9 months ago
@stevenliemberg Ya this video will cure you of that way of thinking real quick LOL...
mobiltec 9 months ago
Повезло парню!
Tolchog 11 months ago
Fraaaaaaaank !!! damn man this is harrowing. glad everything turned out as well as it did. Blues !!
TheDouchesupreme 1 year ago
@TheDouchesupreme Fraaaaaaaaaaank is my rigger :) I think I'm going to start calling him Fraaaaaaaaank! I like that... :) Yes it turned out well and I'm glad too. He was pretty beat up from it though. Lots of line burns all over his arms and legs. He did a great job of keeping his cool and saving his life. Lucky he had the altitude to do it with.
mobiltec 1 year ago
@mobiltec Ya you bet. Altitude was needed to deal with that mess. He's my rigger now and I think I'll start calling him FRAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK too. LOL... You should have seen him that night. He was all beat up black and blue with line burns everywhere. Nothing broken though. He lived and walked away.
mobiltec 8 months ago
Cam really got 2 close a couple of times
angelmanuelvilar 1 year ago
@angelmanuelvilar This is s CRW team. They are used to being very close to each other. Besides the cam has a differn't lens that makes things look closer than they are.
mobiltec 1 year ago
@mobiltec Ok thanks 4 the enlightment
angelmanuelvilar 1 year ago
@angelmanuelvilar No problem. Many other people have made the same comment.
mobiltec 1 year ago
uh...WHOA!
Hallucinator88 1 year ago
holy shit!! best save ive ever seen on here.
noserider207 2 years ago
and shows a great cameraman skills ;)
MaxxDiver 2 years ago
"and shows a great cameraman skills"
Thankyou for noticing that. A lot of others have critisized him for being too close. But what they don't understand is that the camera has a different lens on it because he normally shoots video from farther away than normal so it makes it look as though he is way too close for comfort when in reality he is much further away than it looks.
mobiltec 2 years ago
i hear you dude .. i do same thing but underwater .. glad that you share same understanding .. stay stay in air, water, on land and on youtube .. gloobb globbb LOL
MaxxDiver 2 years ago
And it's a crew guy.. he know what is doing with a canopy... :)
houk3 2 years ago
@mobiltec yep ... really close to somebody who has no another chance!
l0lkie 1 year ago
nice save
beardedswine 2 years ago
thats the shit sober sensai
kd12121010 2 years ago
The star of this video is now my rigger.
mobiltec 2 years ago
PHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Big sigh!!!!!
cycloneCJproducts 3 years ago
dude, i am all for getting the video, but seriously stay the f*ck away from the dude trying to fix his issue...
brosnibean 3 years ago
"away from the dude trying to fix his issue..."
The photographer was debriefed after the jump and the viewing of the video.
mobiltec 3 years ago
kewl, that's good to hear
brosnibean 3 years ago
One thing I should clue you in on is that the photographer was born into the sport and is a second generation skydiver. His father is a skydiver too. He is a very experienced canopy pilot. He got the same comments from most all of his peers quite a long time ago. Frank, the wrappee, is a rigger and I believe that is the only thing that saved him as he knew exactly what was wrong and what needed to be done to correct it. This video exists to help train others in case of a similar situation.
mobiltec 3 years ago
This video shows
1/survival instinct
2/skill and courage
in equal measure and is a truly valuable tool for CREW dogs...(I have just done my CRW 1 so Im not one yet!)
but I have to agree with the other comments (from skydivers only hopefully) about the camera guy getting way too close to the canopy in such a serious situation. (eg /not much alti and on his reserve)
but he helped his friend which I can understand..
and1c 3 years ago
addition// Second or 3rd or 10th generation skydiver...everyone knows anyone has the capability to f*ck things up.
We are only human!
and1c 3 years ago
"anyone has the capability to f*ck things up."
More people would be alive today if that were the general way of thinking. No one is too experienced to die.
mobiltec 3 years ago
"This video shows
1/survival instinct
2/skill and courage"
Very good observation.
mobiltec 3 years ago
"detrifigul"?
Hey I was recovering from surgery when I responded to you. I'm surprised that was all I screwed up..
I have been in a flat spin while in freefall and came darn close to passing out. It only took about 4 revolutions for me to feel the effects. Jumpers have passed out from spinning like you saw here before. If that would have happened he wouldn't have been able to clear his feet from the lines. You sound like you are a jumper as well.
Blue Skies...
mobiltec 3 years ago
Right, that's my point. It would've already happened while he was spinning. Perhaps it's just timing in the video. The passing out is brought up while he is flying straight.
Yeah, I jump too. Do you know if his reserve handle was still in place? Was it pulled upon separation from the other jumper?
pulsejet1 3 years ago
"Was it pulled upon separation from the other jumper?"
The reserve handle was still in place and the closing loop was intact. No one knows how the pin got displaced.
The timing is a little off from the video to audio. They are different tracts and I had a tough time mixing them. I don't have professional equipment or software. But he was pretty dazed from the spinning after he stopped.
mobiltec 3 years ago
HOLY CRAP!!!!!
cycloneCJproducts 3 years ago
"HOLY CRAP!!!!! "
Exactly... LOL...
mobiltec 3 years ago
Why is it said that he, "...could be to the point of almost passed out..."? From what?
pulsejet1 3 years ago
"almost passed out..."? From what?"
From spinning. Spinning like that for that long can knock you out. The blood leaves your brain from detrifigul force caused by the spinning.
mobiltec 3 years ago
Ah...I see. But for clarity. Blood never actually 'leaves' your brain. There's just not enough pressure for new oxygenated blood to get up there as fast as it's needed. Also, if this were to happen he would've been blacked out during the spin. Once blood G's have subsided and blood pressure is restored people come back quickly. Look at some videos of pilots, and they're experiencing many more G's than we are.
"detrifigul"?
pulsejet1 3 years ago
Meant to say centrifigal force... I was recovering from surger when I wrote that...
mobiltec 3 years ago
from breaking his shit!
darkrosehoney 3 years ago
Holy Shit Batman...Frank Frank Frank...I am so glad you are ok I am still in the hospital recoverying from my accident and when I saw this I was so tripped out by it. I knew you had skills my friend but I had no Idea you had some serious skills along with some luck. It made me realize seeing this video that its been way to long since we have talked. I miss you and I am so glad you are ok!!! love ya...
kelly
camerafanatic 3 years ago
great video and narative on the event, I'll be doing a CReW camp in a few week and shows the other side of thing that can go wrong but also shows that working the issue and comunication it can still have a good out come. thanks for the share.
armour666 3 years ago
You can have your CRW, I will stay with something safe like freefly anyday, glad everyones ok
DK
1way43 3 years ago
"stay with something safe like freefly anyday,"
What could possibly go wrong? :)
mobiltec 3 years ago
Man I've watched this a few times, and I know he's going to make it but my heart just pounds like crazy literally. I'm sure that is no time for panic for the jumper. Every second is precious. My gosh I wonder if he tells his loved ones about it. Man this gives me chills.
Sis.
Sis363 3 years ago
"Every second is precious. My gosh I wonder if he tells his loved ones about it."
In skydiving, yes... Every second is precious. Things happen quickly in this sport.
He is a second generation skydiver. He is a master rigger and very knowledgable about the equipment and the sport. His son skydives as well and is 3rd generation. So yes, his family knows all about how dangerous this can be. The hairiest part was when his reserve deployed too soon. That is what made it dangerous.
mobiltec 3 years ago
hey when i really start into the sport i will be thrid generation skydiver. :)
darkrosehoney 3 years ago
Well, only a few of his family members know.. Our mother doesn't know, or she'll freak out... Frank ask that she not know...
hey19girl 3 years ago
And I had thought that doing that was something people tried to avoid. }:-} Looks like it's an exciting addition to an old sport.
NotSoOldHippy 3 years ago
What town were they up above?
bapyou 3 years ago
Perris, CA.
mobiltec 3 years ago
Wow!! That was a heart stopper! We never got into CRW. I guess it came after I got out of it. The consequences of one little mistake can obviously be catastrophic. He was damned lucky.
anmoose 3 years ago
"He was damned lucky."
I see a whole lot of skill and knowlege involved in his escape from the line entanglement. I talked to him today and he said he would rather be lucky than skilled any day! LOL! He was obviously both.
mobiltec 3 years ago
There's definitely a *lot* of skill involved, as well as a *very* cool head in the face of a panic situation. He was the only one who could get himself out of it, and he kept his head and took it one step at a time. And yeah, he was some of both. I don't guess it matters what you call it, as long as you land with all of your parts intact. :-)
anmoose 3 years ago