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  • from an engineering perspective..... I think the only advantage F-35 holds over the F-16 latest block is stealth and for future dog fights that would be a big disadvantage but for now I think F-16 is still competitive for many other fighters. I would sort it in par with the Rafale of France. It is still a great fighter. It is upgraded a lot ..come on!

  • we finally receive the block 50/52 in Morocco yay.

  • i don't think it's a 21 st fighter plane, cos it's quite aged. the 21st one should be F-35 and F22

  • people know these machines kill people.

  • does any1 know how much do these cost???

  • @supremejen019 At least $20 dollars!!!!

  • I dream of a fighter that never has to kill, but until that day. Buy F-16s!!!!!

  • Morocco is flying these now!

    I think Rafale look sweeter! :)

  • 3:48pm Friday (CDT) - Time in&Again MEFF

  • Pakistan's ordered 18 of these

  • @Makaveli175 more like paki was gifted the 18 jets by USA.

    paki state is corrupt, almost bankrupt and a cesspool of terrorists and yet the USA is pumping more weapons into it.

  • @thar777

    its not gifted...we bought those...learn da difference...

  • athineon polis eisai asxetos alla eutixos kaneis kalo!!!Osoi katalavan katalavan

  • This turkey is overweight, short legged and high wing load. there is only so much u can do with a 35 year old air frame.

    I don't see this jet winning any new contracts.

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  • that would kill a sukhoi

  • Em injuns 'will' cheat to win in dog fights etc...nobody seemed to be 'shot' in friendly fights, even after viewing the tapes...

  • well the indian air force send su30mki to red flag n didnt impress that much either,a f15 n rafale manage to down the thrust vectoring equip indian su in mock combat,n its a wakeup call for the indian air force,f15 n rafale were able n lock on the india su from beyond visual range n manage a mock kill on the su30mki,india left the exercise scratching there heads,now they probly think that air to air combat is not about maneuverability anymore,its about who av the advantage in radar n technology.

  • @fmoa

    Yes, I read that the Indian Su-30MKI had a weakness in energy losses using the vectored thrust during high speed turns.

    I give the IAF credit for showing up to Red Flag and really getting it on.

    Showed up with a MIDAS tanker and all and they wanted to kick ass.

    As a result the USAF got some damn good experience against them.

    Not everyone who shows up REALLY mix it up.

  • @rampking1..the indians did show up at red flag n didnt av the success they av when they beat the yanks at copa india 2004,red flag was not all about dogfighting like what the indians think,red flag exercise simulate a real war n uses all tech available for air to air combat like awacs n all,the yanks f15's manage to track the indians n later claim the indian flown blind n didnt know what to do from beyond visual range,there were reports of a f15 n rafale track n down the su's in mock battle.

  • @fmoa

    I didn't hear this about the IAF thinking that Red Flag was about "dogfighting"

    It is a "war-game" scenario and they should have known this before they left.

    The Indians were angry after viewing the briefing given by an USAF officer on how aggressor F-15's were able to exploit a weakness of the pride of the IAF, the Su-30.

    What they must realize is that many "hot" pilots come to Red Flag, leave humbled, but with many valuable lessons learned.

    Everyone who participates is a winner.

  • @fmoa I would be glad to know the source of your alleged info about the SU 30mki.

    Are u aware that the SU 30mki at Red Flag flew with the radar turned off?

    Are u a bum fuck buddy of that idiot USAF Col clusterfucks who is featured in paki web sites talking about the SU30 in ?

    Yeah the F 16, rafale,n F15 can outfly anything else??? What Bullshit do you have for b'fast everyday?

  • @fmoa

    they lost most of the mock fights because the IAF did not switch on their radars and had to use only visual. The Su30mki has superior avionics compared to teh f-15, if they has used their radars the results would have been very different.

  • @fmoa Well,it's not all about the planes.Keep in mind that IAF pilots had their radars on training mode,and pilot skill is also a great factor.Indian pilots are not the best in the world.Good,but not the best.Also,in Cope-India 04,the IAF won 90% of the mock combat missions.

  • @gtamodman122 Do you know the restrictions the USAF was flying under in Cope India 04''? The US could not use the fullness of its radar, no BVR was allowed, and were flying outnumbed 6-1. If you cant win a fight like that then you might as well give up an airforce. The USAF also used that exercise to say, seee, we need the F-22 because our F-15's are getting beat up... Its propaganda:/

  • @BBEEAANN1 Well,Indian pilots flew under restrictions as well in several exercises.But I don't understand why it was a 6-1.This sounds just...I don't know,rediculously idiotic?

    As for the F-22 thing,I just hate it.The F-15 is still very able,and the USAF does not need piles of luxurious hi-tech F-15 upgrades.Because that's what the F-22 is.And it's not very needed.

  • @gtamodman122 i suggest you actually look up the exercises then if you think it is idiotic. If you want to think the F-22 isnt needed fine, yet the F-15's life is coming to an end. I feel we should have put TVC on the F-15, F-16 and modernized the F-14 for fleet defense. We would not be discussing anything Su right now if the F-15 Active and the F-16 MATV were a part of our inventory. They were around in the late 80's early 90's and make the Su's look like what they are, a copy of innovation

  • @fmoa man, just see some proper sukhoi, ure one of those pro american paki fags!!

  • video claims that f16 air to air combat record is 71 victories,0 losses,impressive,but another yank fighter jet surpass that mark,the f15 air to air combat is far more impressive,f15 av 104 victories n 0 losses in air to air combat,anyways,both jets rape more agile ruski fighters easily,including the mig29 n su's..

  • You Indians really know how to pump yourselves up or should I better say exaggerate.

  • Its the other way around really...

    Why do u think they ordered the F-16IN?

  • ti diafora exei to block 52 me to blk 52 advanced??????

  • voila le blok 52 plus futur avion combat des force armee royal marocaine el a passer comande pour 36 apareil blok 52 equipe en version israelienne soufa anp a du souci a se faire mdr

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  • ysteroume se poiothta alla kai posothta. ela ta eurofighter parakalw

  • se pliroforw pws ysteroume mono se posotita, kai enas koukos (EF) den fernei tin anoiksi....

  • se pliroforw oti ysteroume kai se posothta kai se poiothta, faskeis kai antifaskeis

  • kai esy pws xereis oti ysteroume se poiotita kai se posotita? poios eise, o Verykokos?

  • oxi o kokos

  • to arxidi tou moameth eise.......

  • @tasoscorsair Ελεος πια με τα Greeklish σας. Στα Ελληνικά δεν μπορείτε να γράφετε?

    Απο τη μια προβάλλετε την χώρα απο τα κανάλια σας και απο την άλλη καταστρέφετε την ΕΛληνική γλώσσα με greeklish!!

  • @tasoscorsair πεστα τασο,..!!

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  • @AthenaionPolis Υστερούμε σε ποσότητα, αλλά σε καμία περίπτωση δεν υστερούμε σε ποιότητα πιλότων αλλά ούτε και σε υλικό.Όσο για τα EF-2000 αν κοστίζει η ώρα πτήσης 100.000€ η ώρα πτήσης τότε από μακρυά και αγαπημένοι μόνο.

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  • Γιατι να εχουμε περ.195 F-16; Οι Tουρκοι εχουν F-35(stealth) .

  • ta moggola den exoun F-35 kai otan ta apoktisoun den tha exoun tis ikanotites stealth pou tha exoun kai ta amerikanika F-35

    afto pou theloume twra einai 60 Eurofighter na kopsoun kolous....

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  • akou file mou, i yperoxi ston polemo den einai posotiki alla poiotiki

    otan paraviazetai to FIRATH simainei synagermos kai scramble me skopo na anagnoristoun kai ekdioxthoun oi eisvoleis, den mas gamane apla paraviazoun tous diethnis kanonismous kai polles fores ta oria asfaleias (vlepe Hliakis)

    oso gia aeroplanofora.... mono oi USA exoun

  • Filarako, simera omos oi moggoloi me 8 F-16 mas gamhsan. Emeis tous anaxetisame me 3 . Kanonika mono 2 aeroplana einai se epifilakh

  • symvouli: min akous VERYKIO

  • Den akouw re. Den vlepw alpha

  • aeroplanofora den exoun mono oi USA... alla kai i rosia......

  • Μόνο F-16 & Mirage 2000 εχουμε. Αμα ειχαμε F-22Raptor...Θα γαμουσαμε τους Τούρκους

  • F-22 den exoun kan ta amerikanakia, akoma stin fasi twn dokimwn einai apo tin USAF kai exoun ena terastio kostos kataskeyis kai syntirisis...

  • Ta amerikanakia exoun F-22 Raptor kai xrisimopiounte. I proti mera pou te8eike se upiresia htan to 15 Δεκεμβρίου του 2005

  • Auta ta F-16 einai pou parageile i ellada tora prosfata guro sta 20-30 sosta?

  • sostos

  • sunolika twra posa f16 exei h HAF?

  • Εχουμε τα καλυτερα αεροσκαφη...

    Τους καλυτερους πιλοτους...

    Ε, πως στο διαολο οι τουρκοι απαιτουν νησια ΜΕ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ ΠΟΛΙΤΕΣ, κατοικους;

    Μαλλον επειδη ειμαστε χεστες σαν κοινωνια!

  • fejofiejoij, oefoiejj ? iuehfiuh !!! lol

  • are you on drugs?

  • ahha thats a big assumption just from a random youtube comment man nar im not on drugs just proving a point

  • to aeroskafos einai korufaio sto idos tou to martiroun kai oi poliseis tou osoi lene to anti8eto einai apla asxetoi oi upokinoumenoi apo allous.....

  • 3:08 look at it jump from the decreased weight... cool :)

  • Polish F-16 Block 52+ Polski Jastrząb ;) A ten głos da się słyszeć u Thunderbirds:)

  • lol I was not suprised they did not mention it was shot down by insurgents in Iraq. Still a good fighter.

  • f16 the best.

  • What is the cost of one of these things?

  • we bought them for 55 million USd per piece

  • we?

  • GREECE

  • Me afta ta leftoudakia pernoume aneta merika Su-35BM pou einai klasis anotera apo aftes tis paparies. Alla vevea o klasikos o malakas o elinas panta to kolaraki ton amerikanon tha glifi. Anti na paroume ta ypergamata Su-35BM i EF Typhoon pernoume toutes tis pipes. Kalo aeroplano alla den sigrinete enantia sta parapano aeroplana.

  • gia pes mou re file pou xereis ta panta apo ta aeroplana, ti douleia kaneis?

  • Den exei sxesi. Kserw na diavazo kai afto exei simasia. Vlepete diafimisis mias eterias kai poroneste san pedakia.

  • epidi den xereis ti tha pei epixeirisiaki etoimotita kai kostos syndirisis opws kai ti tha pei logistiki ypostiriksi, se parakalw na min pisteveis oti diavazeis.

    kai na xereis pws egw den vlepw diafimiseis etairiwn kathws episeis den poronomai.

  • To mono provlima me to Su-35BM einai oti tha xriastoune poles metatropes gia na mporesei na xrisimopoihsi tis dikes mas epikinonies kai dika mas oplika sistimata. Katatala an pisteveis oti to F-16 einai kalitero se opoiondipote tomea kimase orthios. Oi indioi piran ta Su-30 MKI kai einai poli poio efxaristimeni apo opoiodipote aeroplano exoun petaksi proigoumenos , simperilamvanomenou kai tou F-16/F-15/F-18, mirage ktlp ktlp.

  • kat arxin oi Indoi den einai sto NATO kai kata 2on den apeilei kanenas tous Indous oti ean psonisoun apo allou tha xasoune kana 2 nisia.

    kai kata 2on to kostos syndirisis enos tetoiou aeroskafos apo thn Ellada einai apagoreytiko, kathws episeis kai ta shelter pou yparxoun stin Ellada den xwrane afto to aeroskafos.

    kai sou ypenthymizw pali pws i logistiki ypostiriksi enos tetoiou oplou einai enas efialtis. episis einai efialtis h ekpedeysi tou prosopikou

    kai gia mena to F-16 den einai kalo

  • Vasika oi Indioi exoun exthrous tous pakistanous. To su-35BM einai arketoutsika poio akrivo oson afora ta kafsima pou xriazete. I elada den mporei na to xrisimopoihsei kai exeis dikaio. Kati pou skeftome einai mipos i ellada tora pou tha pesoun i USA os yperdinami skeftoun tin agora tou rossikou PAK FA gia na antimetopisoun ta turkika F-35. Oxi oti ta F-35 einai kala aeroplana alla leme tora. Kita ti lene i australoi gia to F-35. des to video "F-35/F-22 truth revieled" na gelasis ligo.

  • to eida to video pou les kai ontws gelasa....

    alla ti enoeis pws tha pesoune oi USA san yperdinami? aftoi elegxoune olon ton planiti, akoma kai ta disegona mas tha tous plirwnoun!

  • I USA einai toso xreomeni pou 14 trisekatomiria. Peripou 110% tou proipologismou tous. Gia afto einai pagosmia i krisi. giati olos o ilithios kosmos ependise stis USA. Telos panton gia aeroplana milame. To rossiko PAK FA den kserw pote tha petaksi proti fora alla tha einai to 2 aeroplano me plasma cloud stealth mazi me to Su-35BM. Tha xrisimopoihei tis standar texnikes stealth pou exoun kai oi amerikanoi kai to plasma stealth, super eveliksia kai se poli ma para poli kali timi.

  • Lene oti to kostos tha einai ligo mikrotero apo to F-35 kai to megethos tou aeroplanou tha einai peripou oso megalo einai to MIG/Eurofighter kati to opoio volevi tin elada. Opos tha kses i ellada skeftete tin agora akoma 100 aeroplanon eos to 2015 anagastika gia na isovathmisoume me ton arithmo ton tourkikon aeroplanon. Na doume.. tha protimisoume 4.5 genias aeroplana i 5is genias. H EU ipe oti den einai sta amesa sxedia tis i paragogi 5is genias aeroplano. Pame kafteian gia 6is emeis :).

  • katse na vroume leftakia kai apo ekei kai pera kati tha vroume na paroume...

  • Poland have block 52 advanced + :)

  • we also will have them soon and we are thinking of buying the Block 60 with the AESA radar in order to replace our old Block 30s :)

  • Ti les re malaka?

  • lew pws tha sou gamisw to mouni re malaka.

    afto lew re malaka...

  • Vre ande kai gamisu palio pustara gamimeni, pou thes na parume autes tis sakarakes, mathe tipota peri maxitikon prota kai meta anige to stoma su paliobastarde, giati kykloforoun polla anapoda gamoto san kai sena teleutaia kai me kanoun na ksernao...

  • eise mixanikos aeroskafon vlamene?

  • kai prwta mathe na milas , re malaka

  • Μερικοί εδώ μέσα μαθαίνουν περί μαχητικών από τον προφήτη Λιάκουρα... ή από το Ace Combat. Μεταξύ αυτών κι εσύ, μαλάκα Yes4HumanRace που προσπαθείς να την πεις στους άλλους μη γνωρίζοντας τίποτα.

  • min asxolise file mou me pitsirikia-malakistiria, xalas tin iremia sou xwris logo....

  • den exete idea kaneis sas :)

  • so how do I order one?

    no seriously I want one-  or even an f-16 c or een a but no for real do they actually sell those for personal use- (without the weapons???)

  • America sells outdated weapons to foreign countries to make them allies. Then when America does something to tick that allie off...well you get 9/11. As was the case with Osama Bin Laden. World War III coming any time soon? Well lets just say if the world comes to end for those of us that have nothing to live for it will be a blessing! For those of us that have it like that life on Mars or the moon is right up your alley!

  • great plane

  • Is the US using this version of the F-16?

    Cause I olny see this plane being sold overseas.

  • nop

    the us uses the f16 a f16b f16c and f16e

  • why the fuck did singapore ordered the f-16 they don't know how to fly anything -.-

  • do you even know anything about singapore?

  • but the su-27 crash many times

  • Don't ask me why but the US sold these variants to pakistan a few months ago. Why the hell does pakistan need even need these jets? They shouldn't even have nuclear bombs. Pakistan is now the most dangerous country on the planet and should be taken over by the US.

  • fuck u jew

  • Because India is arming to the teeth with Su-30's.

    Now go fuck your Pope, Christo-fag.

  • Pakistan doesn't deserve anything! India should wipe out pakistan because they are fuckin worthless. At least the Indians are good people who don't hate the rest of the world. I'm not Catholic too so go fuck allah up the ass for me.

  • no orthodox church is responsible for any murder or genocide.

    On the other hand the ottomans were slaughtering orthodox christians for not converting.

  • wait your friend untill they will devide mongolyie to 2 parts. Turgaystan and Kurdistan, hehehehehehe

    OIL has no FRIENDS little mogol, dont you know it yet?

  • u fuckin ass hole wat did u say fuck u ,

    allah is better than u and me and everyone he is the one who created u stupied indian

    and let me tell ya that pakistan is better than you and india , stupied fuck

  • fuck allah, he is not better than my cock , and fuck pakistan too. Pakifuck, afghanafuck, turkgay, all these muslim countries are useless in the world and dont contribute to a better humanity/society. For true peace to be achieved, we must destroy islam together. FUCK ALLAH

  • allah is better than u , he is the one who created u , piece of crap , and one day u will know that

    one day arab countries and muslim countries will u unite and will fuck u , u greek piece of crap , i read a book of acient greece and its fuckin lies , medosa if u look at it u die , u fuckin lies

    fuck u

    اللهم اجعل ايديهم في حناجرهم يا رب العالمين

  • fuck your ass allah, Greece had one of the greatest civilizations the world has ever known! My ancestors invented pretty much everything, and what did the arabs invent? NOTHING. Nothing but violence and war. So FUCK ALLAH and FUCK MOHAMMAD. Allah is not better than the dog shit on the side of the street, so go fuck him up the ass for me and fuck him hard.

  • and was for this religious nut-case, its clear that you have been duped into believing centuries old made up shit to get you to believe what they want you to believe. The thought of a higher being was around shit loads before "Allah" was even made up. Its all a bunch of bullshit to fear people into having a basis for morality. If you arn't human enough to decide to be a peaceful person, you are among the dumbest people on the planet, which just happens to be the largest group of all.

  • LOL they dont contribute? Want to take a large guess at where the gas sitting in your car came from? If they didnt enjoy the money so much, they could put a stand still to the global economy whenever they wanted. No oil = no gas or petrol products, like plastic. No gas = no shipping, and no shipping = massive shortages of everything. If you want peace, stfu and let them work out there own problems...getting involved in crap is only getting us into a deeper shit-hole...

  • amin

  • Our fighters reputations largely depend on the pilots of course. SU-27 is a great soviet air-craft but they fallen in combat a few times(not in the soviet or russian hands tho).

  • Su-27 was never shot down.

    You're confusing it with the Mig-29.

  • f-16 and f-22 rule the skies. Nothing can touch them.

  • not true

  • Spot on mate!!!

  • forgot about the f-18. But if its not true dispute me tasoscorsair. Oh no...here comes a Eurofighter argument.

  • just look at the vid:

    /watch?v=vIvgBbXKL5E

    so what is your opinion?

  • guys you greeks made great job buying the block 52 plus'. because it is easy to meet with its logistic support as HAF already has block 30 and block 50s. also it's a proved fighter in terms of agility and operational success.

    by the way, when is the retirement of A-7s?

  • An updated classic. I wounder who the US is going to allow to have these planes.

  • the Hellenic Air Force (Greek) has 60 F-16C/D bl52+ of them operational and 40 more to be delivered at a couple of years

  • The Polish Air Force bought some as well of the F-16C/D. The first deliveries took place in November 2006 and will continue until 2008. It is expected that the Polish Air Force will form three squadrons of F-16's which will be fully operational by 2012.

  • These vids are shown at airshows, not only to sell planes, but to get people to buy shares of Lockheed-Martin stock.

  • Good footage of Conformal fuel tanks!! Also of the Spineback F-16.

  • Taso, what is the purpose of the video ? I mean, is it displayed to MoD and Air Force personnel around the world for promoting the Viper ? Or is it just a showcase for the public ? Thanks for sharing..And as Stano said, 5* for selling managers lol :D

  • Locheed Martin is a corporation that needs (like all companies) to advertise their products in order to gain customers.

    its just a promotion policy, stano got the point :)

  • lol!

  • where is the funny thing?

  • damage tolerant?? A-10 is better at that LOL

  • great video

  • great is the guy that gave it to me ;)

  • hahahahahaha! loi lol lol!!!

  • 5 stars for selling managers :D

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