You are missing the point. We in SPAV do not aim to sound like men when singing tenor and bass, just to demonstrate that women can sing either part as readily as some men can sing alto or even soprano; quite naturally and without any force or strain. I am a bass in SPAV and a tenor in quite a few mixed choirs (with a 4 octave range) so am living proof of Nature's gifts in this respect. Unblock your ears and mind!
After hearing these female tenor, baritones, basses - they may sing in the same range as their male counterparts, but their tessitura and tone are/have never sound like that of a man's tone, except for maybe the lighter range.
We are not a feminist group but an ensemble based on research into life at the Pietà. When In Exitu Israel was first performed in 1739 there were probably 12 sopranos and 9 contraltos active in the coro, 4 tenors (Albetta, Antonia, Paulina and Vittoria), and one bass (Anna); this is in addition to other women whose voices or instruments are not recorded. We seek to maintain this balance in our recording. As for "strong and powerful" we prefer St Augustine: Qui cantat bis orat.
Ok its beautiful, very pretty watching all those women, ok, but let's be real, it doesn't work, we can't hear tenors or basses, even if 'they are there'.
Plus this is a strong and powerful piece and they played it softly.
Excelente representación de lo que fue en el siglo XVII y parte del XVIII la famosa escuela de La Ospedale de La Pietá en Venecia de niñas educadas musicalmente por el sacerdote Antonio Vivaldi. Que admirable tuvo que ser esa institucion !
I am one of the Basses in Vivaldi's Women, and have recently opened a studio to teach low-voiced females. I guarantee that many more women can sing in the Tenor range than they know, so you are surely not alone on this one. In fact, I am a mere Baritone, but there are ladies in our choir who go a half-octave lower than me! You should use the same classical, bel canto technique that you always have been using, but there are some adjustments with the larynx you'll need to learn.
@petrafanafinny Hi! If an untrained female tenor can sing c3 in tunes without problems, how much lower do you think she might be able to sing with the proper training?
That's really hard to say, it totally depends on the individual person, her age, agility, and so forth. Like I said in another post, there is a woman in my choir who can hit the D below C3 (the one at the very bottom of the bass staff) in which case she is a low Bass.
So glad to find this. I really enjoyed the documentary too. Are SPAV planning any concerts in 2012? Made me glad to embrace my low voice.
LucyTraves 1 month ago
@LucyTraves There will be a couple of events in London in 2012, including a female vocal range singing day. Watch our website for details.
VivaldisWomen 1 month ago
You are missing the point. We in SPAV do not aim to sound like men when singing tenor and bass, just to demonstrate that women can sing either part as readily as some men can sing alto or even soprano; quite naturally and without any force or strain. I am a bass in SPAV and a tenor in quite a few mixed choirs (with a 4 octave range) so am living proof of Nature's gifts in this respect. Unblock your ears and mind!
jack1rob 3 months ago
After hearing these female tenor, baritones, basses - they may sing in the same range as their male counterparts, but their tessitura and tone are/have never sound like that of a man's tone, except for maybe the lighter range.
EmilyGreene1984 3 months ago
@starbreez3
We are not a feminist group but an ensemble based on research into life at the Pietà. When In Exitu Israel was first performed in 1739 there were probably 12 sopranos and 9 contraltos active in the coro, 4 tenors (Albetta, Antonia, Paulina and Vittoria), and one bass (Anna); this is in addition to other women whose voices or instruments are not recorded. We seek to maintain this balance in our recording. As for "strong and powerful" we prefer St Augustine: Qui cantat bis orat.
VivaldisWomen 10 months ago
Ok its beautiful, very pretty watching all those women, ok, but let's be real, it doesn't work, we can't hear tenors or basses, even if 'they are there'.
Plus this is a strong and powerful piece and they played it softly.
starbreez3 10 months ago
Belle voci, complimenti
syssy12 1 year ago
Excelente representación de lo que fue en el siglo XVII y parte del XVIII la famosa escuela de La Ospedale de La Pietá en Venecia de niñas educadas musicalmente por el sacerdote Antonio Vivaldi. Que admirable tuvo que ser esa institucion !
Vanchy58 1 year ago
Beautiful ladies by the way!
karpov89 1 year ago
Mas Bah!
Matou a pau!
Me caiu os butiá do bolso!
Bravíssimo!
mockfirst 1 year ago
That was an amazing discovery! This performace was awesome! Thanks for the upload! Greetings from the United States of America!
dondonp12004 1 year ago
Any tips for a female tenor? LOL Nobody seems to believe my voice is that low, and we've got lower out there!
0Krusnik0 1 year ago
@0Krusnik0
I am one of the Basses in Vivaldi's Women, and have recently opened a studio to teach low-voiced females. I guarantee that many more women can sing in the Tenor range than they know, so you are surely not alone on this one. In fact, I am a mere Baritone, but there are ladies in our choir who go a half-octave lower than me! You should use the same classical, bel canto technique that you always have been using, but there are some adjustments with the larynx you'll need to learn.
petrafanafinny 1 year ago
@petrafanafinny Hi! If an untrained female tenor can sing c3 in tunes without problems, how much lower do you think she might be able to sing with the proper training?
karpov89 1 year ago
@karpov89
That's really hard to say, it totally depends on the individual person, her age, agility, and so forth. Like I said in another post, there is a woman in my choir who can hit the D below C3 (the one at the very bottom of the bass staff) in which case she is a low Bass.
petrafanafinny 1 year ago
@petrafanafinny Yes you are right; D2 or D in the large octave (my language) is normally the lowest note for 2nd basses.
karpov89 1 year ago
Cool
CowboyBebop444 1 year ago
Une vraie réussite. Merci !
valeriealmamarie 2 years ago 2
All these women have such voices ! all these women are so beautiful !
Quelles belles voix et quelle belles femmes !
panda2309 2 years ago 8
This is sure a pleasure to listen. Well done!
classicalcompo 2 years ago 3
This is so nice and great. Thank you.
perothing 2 years ago 2
Great Vivaldi.....25 stars!!!!
Nganguen 2 years ago 3
Wow......This is really a pleasant discovery, I have never heard this piece by Vivaldi, but I love it!!! Grande Antonio!!!
LuisCarcamoCarcamo 2 years ago 9