Click - Pirate Software Gangs - BBC News 24

[toshibashish]

love piracy.........move on..

[zopicloneable]

Sure, they should make a profit for creating the software, but when they start getting greedy by inflating the price way beyond what the software is worth, then I'm on the side of piracy

[Bred0nSch00lV2]

If it weren't for keygens I wouldn't have acquired my liking to fasttracker music!

[k3ytech]

Just use open source....

[Philmozzila]

Reduce the price of Software and Games and people would be happy to buy it, its that simple and you would probably sell more

[Philmozzila]

@Philmozzila

and thats why games are fighting it with downloadable content and similar stuff..

sell me Windows 7 for 30% od the price and i would be happy to buy it...

[carlybodmer]

here is an amazing technology: look at youtube titled: how to bo.lt ! really cool

[labobo]

WARNING !!!

"rent a program" wow now that is just crap and yet another way for companies to milk more money out of you.

Also think about the internet, sometimes it goes down in your area, even sites go down or out of business so how are you supposed to use such programs if one of those things happen ?

[MsArs19]

i pay six hour of time to download Windows 7 and i save 314euros how brillint is this

[9Endon9]

I can't say I like the attitude that software crackers are evildoers and so on; they just have fun being more clever than developers, specifically big corporations like Microsoft and Adobe, and allow people to use it all for free. I don't exactly condone selling pirated software but I have a pretty much clear conscience about illegally using Microsoft products on my own.

[AlchemistxBankai]

You gotta love those asians and their piracy, it made all of us into pirates.

THE PIRATING WILL LIVE ON FOREVER!

[liverpoolatnight]

totally agree

any body can just buy a windows disk and copy it then stick it on a flash drive and share it with colleges, teenagers they all they had to do is burn it to dvd disk.

[97channel]

Yar har fiddle di dee

Being a pirate is alright to be

Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free

You are a pirate

[EricTheRed03]

In response to the guys comment near the end of the video. Yeah, that's why Steam is so successful

[CassettePlaya1]

...but..a lot of steam games are still actually pirated with 'rips' of an exact image of the game contents uploaded online.

[Caribkele]

LOL, LOL Do they honestly think their new plan to put everything on a server is going to work. The point of piracy is that people will adjust to ANYTHING that you do. I am definitely rooting for the pirates on this one.

[kloopenhimer]

lol then the pirates will make their own server that will have the same stuff as the legal server except for free. there are loopholes in every single plan they make to "beef up" security. they just have to accept that people will pirate software and such and try to convince them to pay. but thats much easier said than done

[strawman007]

This is exactly what needs to happen to push open source as the norm and improve it leaps and bounds. Probably farther than most companies could ever hope to! GoGo Please do this!! ROFL

[MSK120]

Aww come on! I love my pirated Adobe Photoshop CS4 Extended! And I can't be bothered to pay for video making software like Camtasia Studio 6 and Sony Vegas Pro 9! Those two programs along would cost 900 dollars legally! I think almost anyone would agree that's overpriced!

[jayboy81101]

Lol I have all of those, and more :P I have saved maybe 10 grand on software through torrenting :)

[Straightfromcompton1]

Indeed, Death to thieving gypsy twats who are happy to steal instead of pay for what they use.

[MrSoulreaper00]

Death to bloodsucking pirate leaches. They are killing entire industries with their greed and justifying it by saying the industries are the greedy ones. Long live a free market.

[lonelyroadtofreedom]

I agree with you entirely! Either Pay for your software, or find an open source alternative! nice one mate!

[deathadder2006]

Indeed. Lets see how they like 12 months of prison sex. Long overdue.

[sameelatif]

fuck the industries, piracy will never stop, because it cannot be fully stopped without monitoring private communications

[falkerhard]

@sameelatif Yeah fuck them. Software was supposed to be free. Tell Microsoft to rent their software, only rentboys will rent it. I'm tired of seeing the IT industry run by accuntants and greedy fat cats.

[JustinR19]

NOOOOOOOOO! I <3 MY Pirated Adobe Products :[

[subz3r0x1]

Long live pirating, the pirates, and the genius's that can reverse engineer an algorithm to create keygens!

P.S Long live TPB!

[Futzyy]

well buying an illegal OS is stupid, I personally don't pirate but I don't go around bashing pirates and all that shit.

no, having to rent software like an OS? Bullllllllllllllllllllllllllll­llll

We already technically don't own it anyway. Maybe if microsoft didn't suck so much they wouldnt have as many issues.

and ot any smartass posters

yes, im on a microsoft right now, a nice legal version of XP that i got from sager ^^

[wanderingivie]

They talked about changing programs so that there's nothing to download, everything's just on a server with limited access.

Frankly, I can't see that happening. The consumers won't stand for it. No one likes the idea of just paying for access to something when they could own it.

Also, maybe this is just me, but I'd rather not have programs (other than the web browser) requiring internet access. It's creepy.

[cronosconstantino]

thank god for piracy.

[TehHoboBear]

i "try before i buy" so f*** off.. i dont want ur shitty un-tried software microsoft.... also i found its a lot less trouble if u just use linux..... Kubuntu FTW, baby ooh yeah!

[macctosh]

hahahaha you will never stop piracy!!! its the poor man's salvation

[subz3r0x1]

those "online services" sound like a perfect way of control and What the F*** with buying server time ?_? not enough the we choose to purchase the software? Seriously this got me 9!55ed

[holydemon956]

lol i went to china town there! tons of illegal stuff in Malaysia i found it hard to not buy illegal games

[Mesia2]

when you copy an original the original does not disappear, when you steal something the original is taken and disappears therefore copying is NOT stealing and piracy is not stealing.

[subz3r0x1]

Amen

[macctosh]

well said!!

[Antrikshy]

@Mesia2 Hey, come on. The creator doesn't get money for their work. Would YOU like it if you created an awesome music album you are charging $15 for and people copy it from somewhere without paying you?

[maw88ify]

@Antrikshy Piss on them we are talking about software company like Microsoft " Microsoft announced a record revenue of $19.02 billion for the second quarter ended Dec. 31, 2009, a 14% increase from the same period of the prior year." So they can suck it they make tons of money... Software should be free, and I am a support of the free , and open source software movement ... Like Linux Mint , or Linux Ubuntu for example a free operating system that have almost now viruses unlike Windows...

[cdubmeyer]

@Mesia2 dude i have been pirating and selling software for about 2 years now and I STILL know its stealing...its not mine, I didn't create it, and I'm making money off of something that is not my own....that is just an excuse you said to make ppl feel better about pirating things. I pirate and sell so....I know what I'm talking about, its still wrong...do i give a fuck... no, but its still wrong.

[sharperguy]

SHARING SOFTWARE SHOULD NEVER BE A CRIME!

Software = instructions = information

Instead of trying to crack vista's security, you could easily use a free operating system such as GNU+Linux.

Ubuntu is a very user friendly distribution which most people could get to grips with fairly easily.

Free software doesn't stop you from sharing, it even allows you to study how it works, change it how you want and share copies of changed versions.

[brpadington]

Ubuntu 64 bitis as good as it gets

[thojyout23]

yeah, pro-piracy, or shall i say, pro-sharing!

[x5aint]

LINIX!

[nx2overide]

just download it..

[ahset]

Who would want vista anyways? POS OS

[subz3r0x1]

Agreed

[Zoneman1]

Malaysia is the biggest counterfeit country

[shrouded60606]

If i understand this corectly, they are considering leasing software to us, via a server that will allow our "terminals" to use it for the said amount of time and thus restricting piracy.

This has been tried before, the problem is fake servers apear, it gets leaked and pirates start running their own servers

[KlaxonCow]

But isn't it a naive view to believe that if you could stop users using pirated software, that they'd go buy the genuine article?

Rather than simply doing without or using a free alternative like Linux.

Thus, great amounts of money and effort - which translates into a higher price for the software for legitimate users - is being expended on chasing after those who would probably NOT contribute any more profit to that company at all.

[KlaxonCow]

A case of harming the legitimate users - with a higher price and the possibly less convenient and awkward need for always going through "online services" for basic functionality - in order to chase those who would not actually pay for the genuine article anyway, who would not contribute to profits to offset the extra cost and expense?

[KlaxonCow]

Not that I'm supporting or endorsing piracy. But just challenging the wisdom of using these particular methods and asking "to what end?", from a "business sense" point of view.

After all, a higher price and possibly invasions of piracy and restrictions on usage can chase away legitimate paying customers.

[KlaxonCow]

Do things like DRM - by harming the legitimate user's experience and ability to use what they've paid for - actually REDUCE profits, rather than improve them?

Is this based on actual business analysis that the sums add up for better sales, or just acting on an unfounded "gut feeling" that it's "unfair" and "seems wrong" to not react to piracy, if you see what I'm saying?

[KlaxonCow]

The record industry's sales went up and broke records, when illegal Napster was at the height of its popularity.

Napster re-invigorated a flagging music industry with new life. It directly fed into inventing a whole new industry of online music and MP3 players (would Zune exist without Napster having created that market in the first place?)

[KlaxonCow]

Is there any hard evidence that piracy is worth such effort to track down or is this just a fear of losing control over the market, in a "web 2.0" world where commercial companies are losing their edge against the copyleft and "user generated content" world, where consumers can find equal or better for free?

[KlaxonCow]

Maybe I'm just being cynical, but I think this is more about controlling the market - maintaining monopolies and near monopolies - than ensuring profit.

Because the logic, in business terms, seems more plausible for the former than the latter.